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  Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> - 2021-09-29 19:20 +0000
    Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> - 2021-09-29 15:56 -0400
      Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-09-30 00:39 -0500
        Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 07:47 -0400
          Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> - 2021-09-30 14:35 +0000
            Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> - 2021-09-30 10:58 -0400
              Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-09-30 09:17 -0700
        Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2021-09-30 15:42 +0100
    Re: Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-09-29 15:08 -0500

#1082 — Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10?

Is there any useful Win11 functionality you know of that isn't in Win10?

We asked this question of WinXP & Win10 years ago and nobody could find more
than about a half dozen useful functionalities that were on Win10 that
weren't also already available for every other Windows back to WinXP days.

We're not talking about minor things like a specific version of software
that isn't supported anymore on the older Windows, as that's artificial.

What is being asked is whether Microsoft added any really useful
functionality to Windows 11 that isn't already on the older Windows 
(or that can't be added for free using addon software of some kind).

Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10?
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#1083

On 9/29/21 3:20 PM, this is what Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> Is there any useful Win11 functionality you know of that isn't in Win10?
> 
> We asked this question of WinXP & Win10 years ago and nobody could find more
> than about a half dozen useful functionalities that were on Win10 that
> weren't also already available for every other Windows back to WinXP days.
> 
> We're not talking about minor things like a specific version of software
> that isn't supported anymore on the older Windows, as that's artificial.
> 
> What is being asked is whether Microsoft added any really useful
> functionality to Windows 11 that isn't already on the older Windows
> (or that can't be added for free using addon software of some kind).
> 
> Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10?
> 
Yes, they add my phone app so you can see calls etc from your phone on the PC.  Actually they did that in Win 10.
But hell I did that years ago with the pushbullet app in android and firefox/chrome/edge.

I feel like you, I'll be interested if anyone can answer better.

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#1086

In alt.comp.microsoft.windows Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
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> Yes, they add my phone app so you can see calls etc from your phone on the PC.  Actually they did that in Win 10.
> But hell I did that years ago with the pushbullet app in android and firefox/chrome/edge.

Which app and smartphone? I wonder if iPhone can do that in Windows 10 
and 11.

> I feel like you, I'll be interested if anyone can answer better.

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#1087

On 9/30/21 1:39 AM, this is what Ant wrote:
> In alt.comp.microsoft.windows Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
> ...
>> Yes, they add my phone app so you can see calls etc from your phone on the PC.  Actually they did that in Win 10.
>> But hell I did that years ago with the pushbullet app in android and firefox/chrome/edge.
> 
> Which app and smartphone? I wonder if iPhone can do that in Windows 10
> and 11.
> 
>> I feel like you, I'll be interested if anyone can answer better.
> 
> Ditto.
> 
Pushbullet

Probably any, but I use android.   Google play store for browser / hone and Firefox has the app too.
I sign in with my gmail account.  Not sure if that's the only way, but that's how it got started and keep going with the flow reload to 
reload  (probably since I'm Android and Google is it's thing).


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#1088

Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> asked
> Probably any, but I use android.   
> Google play store for browser / hone and Firefox has the app too.
> I sign in with my gmail account.  Not sure if that's the only way, 
> but that's how it got started and keep going with the flow reload to 
> reload  (probably since I'm Android and Google is it's thing).

The question isn't what functionality can you do in both operating systems.
Nor was the question which app brand names exist that didn't exist before.

The question is far more fundamental than just any given trade-named app.
The question is what *functionality* can you _only_ do in Windows 11.

Connecting a phone seamlessly was _always_ there in Windows 10, wasn't it?

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#1091

On 9/30/21 10:35 AM, this is what Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> Connecting a phone seamlessly was_always_  there in Windows 10, wasn't it?
It came along a while back and having that feature in 11 is not new.  I think I said that but if not, should have.  I was just going with 
the flow of commenting that 11 ISN'T that much better.   AND I had the ability to play with my phone that has come into 10 long before 10 
had it.   So both 10 and 11 are not offering me any great features that I'm not doing in Linux other than it does run Windows apps and I 
keep it around for the few I need.

I ditch Windows all together.  I use my wife's machine for my odd needs.

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#1092

On 9/30/2021 7:58 AM, Big Al wrote:
> On 9/30/21 10:35 AM, this is what Robin Goodfellow wrote:
>> Connecting a phone seamlessly was_always_  there in Windows 10, wasn't it?
> It came along a while back and having that feature in 11 is not new.  I think I said that but if not, should have.  I was just going with
> the flow of commenting that 11 ISN'T that much better.   AND I had the ability to play with my phone that has come into 10 long before 10
> had it.   So both 10 and 11 are not offering me any great features that I'm not doing in Linux other than it does run Windows apps and I
> keep it around for the few I need.
> 
> I ditch Windows all together.  I use my wife's machine for my odd needs.


If your needs are odd, it would probably be a good to always use Linux. ;-)


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#1090

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 00:39:21 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>In alt.comp.microsoft.windows Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:
>...
>> Yes, they add my phone app so you can see calls etc from your phone on the PC.  Actually they did that in Win 10.
>> But hell I did that years ago with the pushbullet app in android and firefox/chrome/edge.
>
>Which app and smartphone? I wonder if iPhone can do that in Windows 10 
>and 11.
>

Probably not yet with iPhone as it was developed with Samsung. I run
it with my Galaxy S10 and regularly answer messages on my PC. If the
PC had a microphone I could answer the phone on it, too. 
I find it most handy for copying photos off the phone onto the PC. 

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#1084

Robin Goodfellow <Ancient-of-Days@Heaven.Net> wrote:

> Is there any useful Win11 functionality you know of that isn't in Win10?
> 
> We asked this question of WinXP & Win10 years ago and nobody could find more
> than about a half dozen useful functionalities that were on Win10 that
> weren't also already available for every other Windows back to WinXP days.
> 
> We're not talking about minor things like a specific version of software
> that isn't supported anymore on the older Windows, as that's artificial.
> 
> What is being asked is whether Microsoft added any really useful
> functionality to Windows 11 that isn't already on the older Windows 
> (or that can't be added for free using addon software of some kind).
> 
> Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10?

Microsoft was coming out with Windows 10 X that would only run on
specific hardware.  They scrapped that project, but didn't want to lose
their effort, so most of Windows 10 X got rolled into Windows 11 with a
few less hardware mandates.  One change in Windows 10 X, er, Windows 11
is switching to the Core OS where programs and apps will run inside
containers; i.e., they'll be isolated to reduce vulnerabilities and
better secure the processes, and the progs and apps are also isolated
from the OS.  Alas, it isn't as secure as it first sounds.  ALL Win32
programs will run inside the same container.  They'll be isolated from
UWP (Universal Windows Platform) apps and PWAs (Progressive Web Apps),
and from the OS, but not from each other.

https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-core-os

Newer articles can be found by searching online on "Windows Core OS",
like:

https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-11-preview-build-actually-rtm-as-core-os-already-done-533384.shtml

which makes it look like Core OS is [mostly] complete, and now Microsoft
will focus on fucking up the UX (User Experience, like the desktop UI).

Windows Core OS is open source upon which developers, including
Microsoft, can build their own proprietary systems, like Windows 11.
See:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-core-os-an-open-source-operating-system/425e8d20-b335-4977-9559-d33f0b188d52
https://techgenix.com/windows-core-os/

Remember how there were Windows embedded versions for use, say, as POS
(Point of Sale) systems?  They were the OS stripped of all the user
goodies and superfluous components.

Another feature of Windows 11 is supposedly it will support Android apps
(although they are delivered from Amazon's store transparently through
the Microsoft Store app).  That means you could run Android apps atop of
Windows 11.  For example, I quit paying for Microsoft 365 subscription
ware, and went to LibreOffice on my desktop, but LO doesn't have an
e-mail component, so I had to look elsewhere for that.  I finally
settled on eM Client, but on my Android smartphone I use Microsoft's
free Outlook, Word, Excel, and Powerpoint Android apps.  No, they don't
have everything the desktop programs have, but they're good enough for
me.  With Windows 11 supporting Android apps, I could run the MS Outlook
Android app on my Windows 11 host, and for free.  I don't need to employ
Bluestacks to emulate Android under which to run Android apps.

Another feature is a more robust virtual desktop mode.  I'm not sure how
it would compare with Dexpot that I've used before, but Windows 11
virtualized desktop feature would be built-in instead of having to
install 3rd party software.  Dexpot hasn't been updated since 2014,
while the integral Windows 11 virtual desktop feature would be new, and
more likely to be compatible with that OS.

They added Teams to Windows 11, and integrated into the Taskbar, but I
couldn't give a gnat's fart about Teams.  I don't inhabit sites for the
socially needy (Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc), and it would be rare
that I feel the need to use Teams.  If I needed video conferencing, I'd
probably go with Zoom since that's what I hear my family and friends are
using.

Instead of asking to be hand-fed the information here, you could do your
own online research on "windows 10 compare 11", or similar searches to
get even more information.  Any "experience" info from users here is
going to be from a very small population sample, and highly biased.

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