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  Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-28 02:47 +0000
    Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-08-27 23:29 -0500
      Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2020-08-28 17:30 +0100
        Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-29 01:52 +0000
        Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2020-08-28 23:13 -0500
          Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 13:12 +0100
            Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-30 20:03 +0000
              Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2020-08-30 23:13 +0100
                Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-30 22:36 +0000
                  Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-08-31 01:52 +0000
                Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-08-30 22:34 -0400
                  Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2020-08-31 10:54 +0000
                    Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-09-01 15:24 +0000
                      Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018 Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> - 2020-09-01 23:05 +0100
                        Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-09-21 14:19 +0000
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                      Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-09-01 21:22 +0000
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#215 — Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-08-28 02:47 +0000
Subject	Re: SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018
Message-ID	<ri9r7e$sps$1@news.mixmin.net>

On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 02:59:29 +0530, Arlen Holder wrote:

> Given I re-imaged the system recently, I had to download the Office 2007, 
> where the office-2007-pro download URL in this thread _still_ works today
> without needing to call Microsoft Office support at +1-800-360-7561. 
>  <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27838> 
> 
> Here is this original 2018 thread on obtaining MS Office 2007 installers.
> o *SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018*
>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/zVvnOpmAAwAJ>
> Where these are key posts by Shadow & Paul:
>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/O2k-41oNAwAJ>
>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/8JxSMxBWAgAJ>
>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/b5zePO8KAwAJ>
> etc.
> 
> Based on those links posted in 2018, I had tried this first:
>  <http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/01/209774629-10300055--NOA//office2010/X16-69453.exe>
> But that just redirected me to an Office 365 subscription page:
>  <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/home-use-program?rtc=1>
> 
> Then I tried this URL, which acted strange, as nothing happened:
>  <http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/01/32000519-3082940-O12SBATR-NOA/msoffice/pub/X12-30283/X12-30283.exe>
> 
> *This is the only link that finally worked for me in April 2020*:
>  <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27838> 
> That downloaded "X12-30196.exe" from http://web.archive.org, specifically:
>  <http://web.archive.org/web/20120111100736/http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>
> Which shows up in the Control-J download link as:
>  <http://web.archive.org/web/20120111100736if_/http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>
> Whose 7-zip hash appears to be:
>  Name: X12-30196.exe
>  Size: 407010384 bytes (388 MiB)
>  SHA256: 87542421E545C2F52416DC6216E98BB13ADB425424744EDB8B2C667619D27C68
> 
> Doubleclicking on that installer file comes up with:
>  Extracting files, please wait...
>  Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007  <== note the "Plus" whatever that means?
> After choosing a custom installation, it says:
>  Space required for Local Installation Source: 407MB
>  Space required for program files: 798MB
>  Total space required on drive: 1305MB
> Enter your 25-character Product Key:
>  {you can skip this step for now, or enter the 25-character key}
> 
> By default, it wants to be installed into:
>  C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
> But you should put it where it belongs, which, for me, is:
>  C:\app\editor\msoffice
> 
> Then it comes up with a window saying:
>  Installing Microsoft Office Professional 2007...
> And, after a few minutes, the window says:
>  Microsoft office Professional 2007 has been successfully installed.
> 
> Note: I have no idea what the "plus" meant, but separately I ran: 
>  Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
>  Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
>  SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
> Which installed the "Save as PDF" option to Microsoft Office 2007.
> 
> BTW, it's off topic, but here is an Office 2010 download link also suggested:
> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/office?culture=en-US&ref=o12>
> Where I haven't tested that out yet (I will soon, but it's off topic here).
> 
> And here's the thread where the BSOD forced a re-installation of Windows:
> o Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?
>  <https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem>
> -- 
> Usenet is a public permanent archive of useful polite technical discussions.

Update

Yet again I needed to re-image the Win10 system due to failures to reboot after a hardware-related BSODs, as described in detail in this thread:
o Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/u0ay9h777Wg>

After wiping the HDD, I had to re-install MS Office 2007 Pro, as per:
o SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY>

Picking up where that M$ Office 2007 pro installation tutorial left off...
A. Make a "before" system restore point 
   Win+R > sysdm.cpl > System Protection > Create
B. Reboot (just to make sure the BSOD isn't on the verge of happening)
C. Install MS Office 2007 & the SaveAsPDF plugin (see instructions below)
D. Make an "after" system restore point
E. Reboot

Where the office installation step above is expanded as follows:

1. Doubleclick on X16-69453.exe saved from the previous tutorial's download
    Name: X16-69453.exe
    Size: 420496200 bytes (401 MiB)
    SHA256: EF7A104E2CD4A75B5EF1CBBDC7D0F51B26DDEEFFF2BF0C9CF73844FC0C5D76D7

   After the UAC access consent, it says
    "Microsoft Office Plus 2007 extracting files, please wait."
   When it asks "Enter your Product Key" type your 25-character Product key
    ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE (a green checkmark will show up if valid)
   Press [Continue]

2. Choose "Customize" when you see [Install now][Customize]
   Check the "File Location" tab and change from:
    File Location C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
   Change to: (this will be wherever your well-organized system puts things)
    File Location C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice
   Set the User Information to "." for the "Full Name" and "Initials"
    (this doesn't seem to do anything - see later for details on why)

3. Turn everything it wants to install OFF first.
    Then turn on ONLY what you want.

   What I had wanted for a typical home computer was:
    Microsoft Office Excel ==> Run from My Computer
    Microsoft Office PowerPoint ==> Run from My Computer
     Organization Chart Add-in for Microsoft Office programs ==> Run from My Computer
    Microsoft Office Word ==> Run from My Computer
    Office Shared Features
     Converters and Files ==> Run all from My Computer
    Office Tools
     Equation Editor ==> Run from My Computer
     Microsoft Graph ==> Run from My Computer
   Total space required on drive: 882 MB
   Press [Install Now]
   It says "Microsoft Office Professional 2007 has been successfully installed." 
   [Close]

4. Also run the "SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe to add "Save As PDF" to MSOffice 2007.
    Microsoft Office 2007 can only "print" to PDF and not "Save as PDF" 
    unless you add this tool.
     Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
     Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
     SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
   
   2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS 
   <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7>

5. The installer doesn't create any desktop shortcuts so you need
   to put manually them in your taskbar menu C:\data\menu\editor\msoffice\
    C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\WINWORD.EXE
    C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\EXCEL.EXE
    C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\POWERPNT.EXE
    C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\ORGCHART.EXE  

6. When you run any MS Office 2007 app, it brings up the Activation Wizard.
    It says if you don't activate, you can run 24 more times and that's it.
    If you choose to activate by telephone, it gives you this Installation Code
    053633-428156-172221-685512-612944-854365-191614-758326-985554
    But then it says: 
    Telephone Activation is no longer supported for your product.
    (I also entered the old activation codes from a while ago but they didn't work.)
    It says to enter your confirmation code but you can't get that by phone.
   
   So the only thing you an do is activate over the Internet, which works fine.
   "Thank You. Your copy of Microsoft Office Professional 2007 is activated"

7. I would remove the username from the documents:
     Excel:Flag > Excel Options > Popular > User name: . > [OK]  
     PowerPoint:Flag > PowerPoint Options > Popular > User Name: . Initials . > [OK]
     Word:Flag > Word Options > Popular > User Name: . Initials . > [OK]

8. I would archive the C:\MSOCache folder somewhere as a zip file (just in case).
   Then I would delete C:\MSOCache because it clutters up the root filesystem.

9. And, I would remove the crap MS added to the right-click context menu.
    New > Microsoft Office Word Document
    New > Microsoft Office PowerPoint Presentation
    New > Microsoft Office Excel Workbook

    All I ever want in my right-click context menu is:
     a. New Folder
     b. New Shortcut
     c. New Text Document (with a default name that I set in the registry)
        HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\NamingTemplates
        Create a new string value subkey:
         "ShortcutNameTemplate"="\"%s.lnk\""
         "RenameNameTemplate"="readme"

    To disable unwanted right-click-new menu entries, 
    start Nirsoft ShellMenuNew.exe, & right click on the menu items
    you don't want to see, and select "disable" in the Nirsoft app.
    <https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shell_menu_new.html>

That's pretty much how I installed MS Office 2007 Pro in August 2020.
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#216

From	ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date	2020-08-27 23:29 -0500
Message-ID	<n-Wdne3rw9CDFdXCnZ2dnUU7-ImdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#215

In alt.windows7.general Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 02:59:29 +0530, Arlen Holder wrote:

> > Given I re-imaged the system recently, I had to download the Office 2007, 
> > where the office-2007-pro download URL in this thread _still_ works today
> > without needing to call Microsoft Office support at +1-800-360-7561. 
> >  <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27838> 
> > 
> > Here is this original 2018 thread on obtaining MS Office 2007 installers.
> > o *SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018*
> >  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/zVvnOpmAAwAJ>
> > Where these are key posts by Shadow & Paul:
> >  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/O2k-41oNAwAJ>
> >  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/8JxSMxBWAgAJ>
> >  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/b5zePO8KAwAJ>
> > etc.
> > 
> > Based on those links posted in 2018, I had tried this first:
> >  <http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/01/209774629-10300055--NOA//office2010/X16-69453.exe>
> > But that just redirected me to an Office 365 subscription page:
> >  <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/home-use-program?rtc=1>
> > 
> > Then I tried this URL, which acted strange, as nothing happened:
> >  <http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/01/32000519-3082940-O12SBATR-NOA/msoffice/pub/X12-30283/X12-30283.exe>
> > 
> > *This is the only link that finally worked for me in April 2020*:
> >  <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27838> 
> > That downloaded "X12-30196.exe" from http://web.archive.org, specifically:
> >  <http://web.archive.org/web/20120111100736/http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>
> > Which shows up in the Control-J download link as:
> >  <http://web.archive.org/web/20120111100736if_/http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>
> > Whose 7-zip hash appears to be:
> >  Name: X12-30196.exe
> >  Size: 407010384 bytes (388 MiB)
> >  SHA256: 87542421E545C2F52416DC6216E98BB13ADB425424744EDB8B2C667619D27C68
> > 
> > Doubleclicking on that installer file comes up with:
> >  Extracting files, please wait...
> >  Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007  <== note the "Plus" whatever that means?
> > After choosing a custom installation, it says:
> >  Space required for Local Installation Source: 407MB
> >  Space required for program files: 798MB
> >  Total space required on drive: 1305MB
> > Enter your 25-character Product Key:
> >  {you can skip this step for now, or enter the 25-character key}
> > 
> > By default, it wants to be installed into:
> >  C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
> > But you should put it where it belongs, which, for me, is:
> >  C:\app\editor\msoffice
> > 
> > Then it comes up with a window saying:
> >  Installing Microsoft Office Professional 2007...
> > And, after a few minutes, the window says:
> >  Microsoft office Professional 2007 has been successfully installed.
> > 
> > Note: I have no idea what the "plus" meant, but separately I ran: 
> >  Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
> >  Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
> >  SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
> > Which installed the "Save as PDF" option to Microsoft Office 2007.
> > 
> > BTW, it's off topic, but here is an Office 2010 download link also suggested:
> > <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/office?culture=en-US&ref=o12>
> > Where I haven't tested that out yet (I will soon, but it's off topic here).
> > 
> > And here's the thread where the BSOD forced a re-installation of Windows:
> > o Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?
> >  <https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem>
> > -- 
> > Usenet is a public permanent archive of useful polite technical discussions.

> Update

> Yet again I needed to re-image the Win10 system due to failures to reboot after a hardware-related BSODs, as described in detail in this thread:
> o Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/u0ay9h777Wg>

> After wiping the HDD, I had to re-install MS Office 2007 Pro, as per:
> o SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY>

> Picking up where that M$ Office 2007 pro installation tutorial left off...
> A. Make a "before" system restore point 
>    Win+R > sysdm.cpl > System Protection > Create
> B. Reboot (just to make sure the BSOD isn't on the verge of happening)
> C. Install MS Office 2007 & the SaveAsPDF plugin (see instructions below)
> D. Make an "after" system restore point
> E. Reboot

> Where the office installation step above is expanded as follows:

> 1. Doubleclick on X16-69453.exe saved from the previous tutorial's download
>     Name: X16-69453.exe
>     Size: 420496200 bytes (401 MiB)
>     SHA256: EF7A104E2CD4A75B5EF1CBBDC7D0F51B26DDEEFFF2BF0C9CF73844FC0C5D76D7

>    After the UAC access consent, it says
>     "Microsoft Office Plus 2007 extracting files, please wait."
>    When it asks "Enter your Product Key" type your 25-character Product key
>     ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE (a green checkmark will show up if valid)
>    Press [Continue]

> 2. Choose "Customize" when you see [Install now][Customize]
>    Check the "File Location" tab and change from:
>     File Location C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
>    Change to: (this will be wherever your well-organized system puts things)
>     File Location C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice
>    Set the User Information to "." for the "Full Name" and "Initials"
>     (this doesn't seem to do anything - see later for details on why)

> 3. Turn everything it wants to install OFF first.
>     Then turn on ONLY what you want.

>    What I had wanted for a typical home computer was:
>     Microsoft Office Excel ==> Run from My Computer
>     Microsoft Office PowerPoint ==> Run from My Computer
>      Organization Chart Add-in for Microsoft Office programs ==> Run from My Computer
>     Microsoft Office Word ==> Run from My Computer
>     Office Shared Features
>      Converters and Files ==> Run all from My Computer
>     Office Tools
>      Equation Editor ==> Run from My Computer
>      Microsoft Graph ==> Run from My Computer
>    Total space required on drive: 882 MB
>    Press [Install Now]
>    It says "Microsoft Office Professional 2007 has been successfully installed." 
>    [Close]

> 4. Also run the "SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe to add "Save As PDF" to MSOffice 2007.
>     Microsoft Office 2007 can only "print" to PDF and not "Save as PDF" 
>     unless you add this tool.
>      Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
>      Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
>      SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
>    
>    2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS 
>    <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7>

> 5. The installer doesn't create any desktop shortcuts so you need
>    to put manually them in your taskbar menu C:\data\menu\editor\msoffice\
>     C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\WINWORD.EXE
>     C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\EXCEL.EXE
>     C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\POWERPNT.EXE
>     C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\ORGCHART.EXE  

> 6. When you run any MS Office 2007 app, it brings up the Activation Wizard.
>     It says if you don't activate, you can run 24 more times and that's it.
>     If you choose to activate by telephone, it gives you this Installation Code
>     053633-428156-172221-685512-612944-854365-191614-758326-985554
>     But then it says: 
>     Telephone Activation is no longer supported for your product.
>     (I also entered the old activation codes from a while ago but they didn't work.)
>     It says to enter your confirmation code but you can't get that by phone.
>    
>    So the only thing you an do is activate over the Internet, which works fine.
>    "Thank You. Your copy of Microsoft Office Professional 2007 is activated"

> 7. I would remove the username from the documents:
>      Excel:Flag > Excel Options > Popular > User name: . > [OK]  
>      PowerPoint:Flag > PowerPoint Options > Popular > User Name: . Initials . > [OK]
>      Word:Flag > Word Options > Popular > User Name: . Initials . > [OK]

> 8. I would archive the C:\MSOCache folder somewhere as a zip file (just in case).
>    Then I would delete C:\MSOCache because it clutters up the root filesystem.

> 9. And, I would remove the crap MS added to the right-click context menu.
>     New > Microsoft Office Word Document
>     New > Microsoft Office PowerPoint Presentation
>     New > Microsoft Office Excel Workbook

>     All I ever want in my right-click context menu is:
>      a. New Folder
>      b. New Shortcut
>      c. New Text Document (with a default name that I set in the registry)
>         HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\NamingTemplates
>         Create a new string value subkey:
>          "ShortcutNameTemplate"="\"%s.lnk\""
>          "RenameNameTemplate"="readme"

>     To disable unwanted right-click-new menu entries, 
>     start Nirsoft ShellMenuNew.exe, & right click on the menu items
>     you don't want to see, and select "disable" in the Nirsoft app.
>     <https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shell_menu_new.html>

> That's pretty much how I installed MS Office 2007 Pro in August 2020.

That's a lot of work. I didn't have to use any of these with my retail 
CD a few years ago for my decade old, clean installed updated 64-bit W7 
HPE SP1 PC (not sure if W10 will be OK?). :)
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#217

From	Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com>
Date	2020-08-28 17:30 +0100
Message-ID	<hqspphFnfpjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#216

On 28/08/2020 05:29, Ant wrote:
> In alt.windows7.general Arlen   Holder<arlen_holder@newmachines.com>  wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 02:59:29 +0530, Arlen Holder wrote:
>
>>> Given I re-imaged the system recently, I had to download the Office 2007,
>>> where the office-2007-pro download URL in this thread _still_ works today
>>> without needing to call Microsoft Office support at +1-800-360-7561.
>>>   <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27838>
>>>
>>> Here is this original 2018 thread on obtaining MS Office 2007 installers.
>>> o *SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018*
>>>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/zVvnOpmAAwAJ>
>>> Where these are key posts by Shadow&  Paul:
>>>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/O2k-41oNAwAJ>
>>>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/8JxSMxBWAgAJ>
>>>   <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY/b5zePO8KAwAJ>
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Based on those links posted in 2018, I had tried this first:
>>>   <http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/01/209774629-10300055--NOA//office2010/X16-69453.exe>
>>> But that just redirected me to an Office 365 subscription page:
>>>   <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/home-use-program?rtc=1>
>>>
>>> Then I tried this URL, which acted strange, as nothing happened:
>>>   <http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/01/32000519-3082940-O12SBATR-NOA/msoffice/pub/X12-30283/X12-30283.exe>
>>>
>>> *This is the only link that finally worked for me in April 2020*:
>>>   <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27838>
>>> That downloaded "X12-30196.exe" from http://web.archive.org, specifically:
>>>   <http://web.archive.org/web/20120111100736/http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>
>>> Which shows up in the Control-J download link as:
>>>   <http://web.archive.org/web/20120111100736if_/http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>
>>> Whose 7-zip hash appears to be:
>>>   Name: X12-30196.exe
>>>   Size: 407010384 bytes (388 MiB)
>>>   SHA256: 87542421E545C2F52416DC6216E98BB13ADB425424744EDB8B2C667619D27C68
>>>
>>> Doubleclicking on that installer file comes up with:
>>>   Extracting files, please wait...
>>>   Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007<== note the "Plus" whatever that means?
>>> After choosing a custom installation, it says:
>>>   Space required for Local Installation Source: 407MB
>>>   Space required for program files: 798MB
>>>   Total space required on drive: 1305MB
>>> Enter your 25-character Product Key:
>>>   {you can skip this step for now, or enter the 25-character key}
>>>
>>> By default, it wants to be installed into:
>>>   C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
>>> But you should put it where it belongs, which, for me, is:
>>>   C:\app\editor\msoffice
>>>
>>> Then it comes up with a window saying:
>>>   Installing Microsoft Office Professional 2007...
>>> And, after a few minutes, the window says:
>>>   Microsoft office Professional 2007 has been successfully installed.
>>>
>>> Note: I have no idea what the "plus" meant, but separately I ran:
>>>   Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
>>>   Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
>>>   SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
>>> Which installed the "Save as PDF" option to Microsoft Office 2007.
>>>
>>> BTW, it's off topic, but here is an Office 2010 download link also suggested:
>>> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/office?culture=en-US&ref=o12>
>>> Where I haven't tested that out yet (I will soon, but it's off topic here).
>>>
>>> And here's the thread where the BSOD forced a re-installation of Windows:
>>> o Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?
>>>   <https://alt.comp.os.windows-10.narkive.com/oL7PTNKu/windows-10-bsod-indicates-a-hardware-problem-but-what-hardware-is-the-problem>
>>> --
>>> Usenet is a public permanent archive of useful polite technical discussions.
>
>> Update
>
>> Yet again I needed to re-image the Win10 system due to failures to reboot after a hardware-related BSODs, as described in detail in this thread:
>> o Windows 10 BSOD indicates a hardware problem - but what hardware is the problem?
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/u0ay9h777Wg>
>
>> After wiping the HDD, I had to re-install MS Office 2007 Pro, as per:
>> o SOLVED: How to download an ISO image for Office 2007 Pro in the year 2018
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/7ru4_AyhPCY>
>
>> Picking up where that M$ Office 2007 pro installation tutorial left off...
>> A. Make a "before" system restore point
>>     Win+R>  sysdm.cpl>  System Protection>  Create
>> B. Reboot (just to make sure the BSOD isn't on the verge of happening)
>> C. Install MS Office 2007&  the SaveAsPDF plugin (see instructions below)
>> D. Make an "after" system restore point
>> E. Reboot
>
>> Where the office installation step above is expanded as follows:
>
>> 1. Doubleclick on X16-69453.exe saved from the previous tutorial's download
>>      Name: X16-69453.exe
>>      Size: 420496200 bytes (401 MiB)
>>      SHA256: EF7A104E2CD4A75B5EF1CBBDC7D0F51B26DDEEFFF2BF0C9CF73844FC0C5D76D7
>
>>     After the UAC access consent, it says
>>      "Microsoft Office Plus 2007 extracting files, please wait."
>>     When it asks "Enter your Product Key" type your 25-character Product key
>>      ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE-ABCDE (a green checkmark will show up if valid)
>>     Press [Continue]
>
>> 2. Choose "Customize" when you see [Install now][Customize]
>>     Check the "File Location" tab and change from:
>>      File Location C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office
>>     Change to: (this will be wherever your well-organized system puts things)
>>      File Location C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice
>>     Set the User Information to "." for the "Full Name" and "Initials"
>>      (this doesn't seem to do anything - see later for details on why)
>
>> 3. Turn everything it wants to install OFF first.
>>      Then turn on ONLY what you want.
>
>>     What I had wanted for a typical home computer was:
>>      Microsoft Office Excel ==>  Run from My Computer
>>      Microsoft Office PowerPoint ==>  Run from My Computer
>>       Organization Chart Add-in for Microsoft Office programs ==>  Run from My Computer
>>      Microsoft Office Word ==>  Run from My Computer
>>      Office Shared Features
>>       Converters and Files ==>  Run all from My Computer
>>      Office Tools
>>       Equation Editor ==>  Run from My Computer
>>       Microsoft Graph ==>  Run from My Computer
>>     Total space required on drive: 882 MB
>>     Press [Install Now]
>>     It says "Microsoft Office Professional 2007 has been successfully installed."
>>     [Close]
>
>> 4. Also run the "SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe to add "Save As PDF" to MSOffice 2007.
>>      Microsoft Office 2007 can only "print" to PDF and not "Save as PDF"
>>      unless you add this tool.
>>       Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
>>       Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
>>       SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
>>
>>     2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS
>>     <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7>
>
>> 5. The installer doesn't create any desktop shortcuts so you need
>>     to put manually them in your taskbar menu C:\data\menu\editor\msoffice\
>>      C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\WINWORD.EXE
>>      C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\EXCEL.EXE
>>      C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\POWERPNT.EXE
>>      C:\app\editor\suite\msoffice\Office12\ORGCHART.EXE
>
>> 6. When you run any MS Office 2007 app, it brings up the Activation Wizard.
>>      It says if you don't activate, you can run 24 more times and that's it.
>>      If you choose to activate by telephone, it gives you this Installation Code
>>      053633-428156-172221-685512-612944-854365-191614-758326-985554
>>      But then it says:
>>      Telephone Activation is no longer supported for your product.
>>      (I also entered the old activation codes from a while ago but they didn't work.)
>>      It says to enter your confirmation code but you can't get that by phone.
>>
>>     So the only thing you an do is activate over the Internet, which works fine.
>>     "Thank You. Your copy of Microsoft Office Professional 2007 is activated"
>
>> 7. I would remove the username from the documents:
>>       Excel:Flag>  Excel Options>  Popular>  User name: .>  [OK]
>>       PowerPoint:Flag>  PowerPoint Options>  Popular>  User Name: . Initials .>  [OK]
>>       Word:Flag>  Word Options>  Popular>  User Name: . Initials .>  [OK]
>
>> 8. I would archive the C:\MSOCache folder somewhere as a zip file (just in case).
>>     Then I would delete C:\MSOCache because it clutters up the root filesystem.
>
>> 9. And, I would remove the crap MS added to the right-click context menu.
>>      New>  Microsoft Office Word Document
>>      New>  Microsoft Office PowerPoint Presentation
>>      New>  Microsoft Office Excel Workbook
>
>>      All I ever want in my right-click context menu is:
>>       a. New Folder
>>       b. New Shortcut
>>       c. New Text Document (with a default name that I set in the registry)
>>          HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\NamingTemplates
>>          Create a new string value subkey:
>>           "ShortcutNameTemplate"="\"%s.lnk\""
>>           "RenameNameTemplate"="readme"
>
>>      To disable unwanted right-click-new menu entries,
>>      start Nirsoft ShellMenuNew.exe,&  right click on the menu items
>>      you don't want to see, and select "disable" in the Nirsoft app.
>>      <https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shell_menu_new.html>
>
>> That's pretty much how I installed MS Office 2007 Pro in August 2020.
>
> That's a lot of work. I didn't have to use any of these with my retail
> CD a few years ago for my decade old, clean installed updated 64-bit W7
> HPE SP1 PC (not sure if W10 will be OK?). :)

I've still got an Office 2007 DVD from which I installed it on W10. But 
since it's no longer supported, I haven't been able to get any updates. 
I've also no longer got the Save as PDF option - but maybe the previous 
post gives a clue for that. I'll have a look!
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#218

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-08-29 01:52 +0000
Message-ID	<riccdo$uqu$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#217

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 17:30:41 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:

> I've still got an Office 2007 DVD from which I installed it on W10. But 
> since it's no longer supported, I haven't been able to get any updates. 
> I've also no longer got the Save as PDF option - but maybe the previous 
> post gives a clue for that. I'll have a look!

Hi Roger Mills,

Even though Office 2007 isn't supported, I reported that Microsoft
_installed_ it (via remote access) for me _after_ the 2018 cutoff date.

I simply called them, and told them the key, and they asked for permission
to remotely install it, and they installed it on my desktop for me.

I don't know if they _still_ do that, but the fact it's not supported is,
to me, meaningless in all manners since I don't _need_ anything more than
what was already in Office 2007 anyway.

The only thing I needed that wasn't in Office 2007 was the SaveAsPdf which
I obtained, at the time, from here:
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7>

Just run the SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe after installing Office 2007.
 Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
 Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
 SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D

BTW, here are the URLs from the thread of 2018, which I found via a
dejagoogle search just now for you:
BTW, these seem to be the URLs given, so far, for the Office 2007 Pro iso.

1. From Microsoft, but didn't work for Microsoft or for me.
<http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/01/209774629-10300055--NOA//office2010/X16-69453.exe>

2. From Microsoft, and which is what they used, but no longer works for me.
<http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/01/32000519-3082940-O12SBATR-NOA/msoffice/pub/X12-30283/X12-30283.exe>

3. I don't remember who posted this link:
<http://web.archive.org/web/20120111100736/http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>

4. From Shadow (this is what I installed in 2020 but I had it already):
http://msassist.com/files/MSOffice/2007/Pro/X16-69453.exe>

5. From Paul:
<http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msoffice/pub/X12-30196/X12-30196.exe>

I currently have both the X12 and X16 in my software archives:
 Name: X12-30196.exe
 Size: 407010384 bytes (388 MiB)
 SHA256: 87542421E545C2F52416DC6216E98BB13ADB425424744EDB8B2C667619D27C68

 Name: X16-69453.exe
 Size: 420496200 bytes (401 MiB)
 SHA256: EF7A104E2CD4A75B5EF1CBBDC7D0F51B26DDEEFFF2BF0C9CF73844FC0C5D76D7
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#219

From	ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date	2020-08-28 23:13 -0500
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In reply to	#217

In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com> wrote:
...
> >> That's pretty much how I installed MS Office 2007 Pro in August 2020.
> >
> > That's a lot of work. I didn't have to use any of these with my retail
> > DVD a few years ago for my decade old, clean installed updated 64-bit W7
> > HPE SP1 PC (not sure if W10 will be OK?). :)

> I've still got an Office 2007 DVD from which I installed it on W10. But 
> since it's no longer supported, I haven't been able to get any updates. 
> I've also no longer got the Save as PDF option - but maybe the previous 
> post gives a clue for that. I'll have a look!

Wait. Windows Updates stopped offering Office 2007 updates? Aw. I wonder 
if it stopped in 64-bit W7 too. I can't check since I already have all 
the updates. I know its online help doesn't work. :(
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#226

From	Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com>
Date	2020-08-30 13:12 +0100
Message-ID	<hr1jeaFncefU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#219

On 29/08/2020 05:13, Ant wrote:
> In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Roger Mills<watt.tyler@gmail.com>  wrote:
> ...
>>>> That's pretty much how I installed MS Office 2007 Pro in August 2020.
>>>
>>> That's a lot of work. I didn't have to use any of these with my retail
>>> DVD a few years ago for my decade old, clean installed updated 64-bit W7
>>> HPE SP1 PC (not sure if W10 will be OK?). :)
>
>> I've still got an Office 2007 DVD from which I installed it on W10. But
>> since it's no longer supported, I haven't been able to get any updates.
>> I've also no longer got the Save as PDF option - but maybe the previous
>> post gives a clue for that. I'll have a look!
>
> Wait. Windows Updates stopped offering Office 2007 updates? Aw. I wonder
> if it stopped in 64-bit W7 too. I can't check since I already have all
> the updates. I know its online help doesn't work. :(

My W7 machines on which I installed Office 2007 years ago have received 
lots of security updates and bug fixes. Since it's no longer supported, 
the version recently installed on W10 hasn't had *any* updates.
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#227

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-08-30 20:03 +0000
Message-ID	<rih0mk$bae$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#226

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:12:59 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:

> My W7 machines on which I installed Office 2007 years ago have received 
> lots of security updates and bug fixes. Since it's no longer supported, 
> the version recently installed on W10 hasn't had *any* updates.

While I don't disagree Office 2007 isn't likely updated, that's almost like 
worrying that a 2007 vehicle hasn't had any updates from the manufacturer.

Why does it matter?

Like a 2007 vehicle, it works just as well in 2020 as it did in 2007, and, 
in actuality, just as with a 2007 vehicle, there's nothing but MARKETING 
changes (e.g., the exterior GUI changes a lot) between the old & the new.

But maybe you see things differently than I do (I'm a home user, btw), 
where a corporate user would see things differently, I'm sure.

Maybe you're worried about viruses?
o Is that a realistic threat?

Dunno. I don't use AV programs and, to my knowledge, I haven't had a virus 
in, oh, probably decades (in the beginning I _did_ get them, but that was 
in the floppy disk days - then I used all the freeware AV programs for 
years, but they just slowed down the system). 

In the end, I simply gave up on all that (although to this day I don't know 
what the heck Windows Defender is doing in terms of AV protection).

To better get at why you lament that Office 2007 is no longer updated... I 
need to ask what it is that you want them to update.

Is it the functionality or the security that you're worried about?
o What functionality do you need that is in new Office but not old Office?
o What security is it that you're worried about in home use of Office docs?
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#230

From	Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com>
Date	2020-08-30 23:13 +0100
Message-ID	<hr2mjuF4j9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#227

On 30/08/2020 21:03, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:12:59 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:
>
>> My W7 machines on which I installed Office 2007 years ago have received
>> lots of security updates and bug fixes. Since it's no longer supported,
>> the version recently installed on W10 hasn't had *any* updates.
>

>
> To better get at why you lament that Office 2007 is no longer updated... I
> need to ask what it is that you want them to update.
>
> Is it the functionality or the security that you're worried about?
> o What functionality do you need that is in new Office but not old Office?
> o What security is it that you're worried about in home use of Office docs?

Mainly security. Some of the security patches were allegedly to fix 
vulnerabilities which may allow your system to be hacked - but I don't 
know how real they were.
I have a feeling that some bugs were identified and fixed, but can't 
remember what they were. I'm not interested in additional functionality.

But I would like to be able to save as PDF. I'm hoping the link you 
cited will fix that, but I'm currently away from my W10 system for a few 
days so can't test that at the moment.
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#231

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-08-30 22:36 +0000
Message-ID	<rih9km$t8m$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#230

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 23:13:19 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:

> Mainly security. Some of the security patches were allegedly to fix 
> vulnerabilities which may allow your system to be hacked - but I don't 
> know how real they were.
> I have a feeling that some bugs were identified and fixed, but can't 
> remember what they were. I'm not interested in additional functionality.

Hi Roger,
Thanks for answering why you were worried. 
I can't tell you not to worry, but I pretty much don't worry about that.

I got viruses decades ago for sure, in the floppy disc days, but I haven't
had a virus in decades (that I know of), so I'm not worried about that (but
I can understand if you are - and that's ok - I just wanted to know what
you were worried about not being updated).

To me it's like owning a 2007 car. It works as well as it did in 2007,
which was good enough for me when I bought it. 

> But I would like to be able to save as PDF. I'm hoping the link you 
> cited will fix that, but I'm currently away from my W10 system for a few 
> days so can't test that at the moment.

I hope it's still there... let me check... 
o <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7>
  Drat. That's not there anymore. Sorry.

Googling the hash "32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D"
<https://www.herdprotect.com/saveaspdfandxps.exe-4cf2d0791d8668fb4857504a178e883ab3d98533.aspx>

Dunno if those old links still work but the google found this:
o <https://archive.org/details/4F059E20CDA1306BF48F1337F23C89FC452A7040>

Another option for you is simply to print to PDF, where there are a ton of
freeware apps that allow you to print anything to PDf (even Microsoft
Windows 10 comes with a print to PDF, doesn't it)?

See also:
o Please improve this listing of available freeware PDF functionality  
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/Vm6NyZz7g9U>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/iB5aOor0-Kw>
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Maybe others have a waybackmachine link to the Office 2007 save-as-pdf?
Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D

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#232

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-08-31 01:52 +0000
Message-ID	<rihl42$l1q$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#231

UPDATE:

Hi Roger,

Googling for "SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe" finds more opportunities than googling
for the hash did (my mistake). 

That simple search found plenty of downloads for you to try.

Dunno about the "virus status" of these though.

Maybe helpful folks like Paul know how to test that stuff better than I
can, as I generally don't download from unknown sources... 

<https://techjourney.net/direct-download-link-for-office-2007-save-as-pdf-or-xps-with-no-validation/>
<https://techsalsa.com/download-office-2007-save-as-pdf-and-xps-add-on/>
<https://www.filehippo-filehippo.com/2007-microsoft-office-add-in-microsoft-save-as-pdf-or-xps/>
<https://www.pconlife.com/viewfileinfo/saveaspdfandxps-exe/>
<https://ccm.net/download/download-24107-microsoft-save-as-pdf-or-xps>
<https://microsoft-save-as-pdf-or-xps-add-in-for.software.informer.com/download/>
<https://softfamous.com/microsoft-save-pdf-xps/>
etc.

What I would do if I downloaded any of those, since they didn't come
directly from Microsoft, is I would scan them (somehow) and then also
doublecheck if any have the same hash as the one from Microsoft does:

Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
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#233

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date	2020-08-30 22:34 -0400
Message-ID	<rihnj9$7qn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#230

Roger Mills wrote:

> 
> But I would like to be able to save as PDF. I'm hoping the link you 
> cited will fix that, but I'm currently away from my W10 system for a few 
> days so can't test that at the moment.

There's a Print To PDF print driver already installed
in Windows 10.

    Paul

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#236

From	Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date	2020-08-31 10:54 +0000
Message-ID	<riiksf$mv9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#233

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> Roger Mills wrote:
> 
>> 
>> But I would like to be able to save as PDF. I'm hoping the link you 
>> cited will fix that, but I'm currently away from my W10 system for a few 
>> days so can't test that at the moment.
> 
> There's a Print To PDF print driver already installed
> in Windows 10.

This. Or try libreoffice. It'll read office files quite well for export to
pdf.

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#242

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-09-01 15:24 +0000
Message-ID	<rilp3c$p1g$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#236

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:54:07 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:

> This. Or try libreoffice. 
> It'll read office files quite well for export to pdf.

For years (and years) I tried office replacments, but they never worked
well on reasonably sophisticated MS Office documents.
o My experience was one in ten converted documents was a keeper.

So I gave up about 5 or 10 years ago on Office lookalikes.
o Do they work better now?

If it's not exact WYSIWYG in the replacement, it's no good in "many" cases.

Particularly because you don't know what it previously looked like
unless you ALSO have Office (or a WYSIWYG printout of the document).
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#247

From	Roger Mills <watt.tyler@gmail.com>
Date	2020-09-01 23:05 +0100
Message-ID	<hr7ut5F39n2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#242

On 01/09/2020 16:24, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:54:07 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>
>> This. Or try libreoffice.
>> It'll read office files quite well for export to pdf.
>
> For years (and years) I tried office replacments, but they never worked
> well on reasonably sophisticated MS Office documents.
> o My experience was one in ten converted documents was a keeper.
>
> So I gave up about 5 or 10 years ago on Office lookalikes.
> o Do they work better now?
>
> If it's not exact WYSIWYG in the replacement, it's no good in "many" cases.
>
> Particularly because you don't know what it previously looked like
> unless you ALSO have Office (or a WYSIWYG printout of the document).

Maybe - but even if you transfer an MS Word document created on one 
computer to another computer running MS Word there's no guarantee that 
it will look the same - depending on the setup of the two computers, 
available fonts, etc. It's much more likely to look the same if PDF 
format is used - but it's not then readily editable. I doubt whether the 
disparity between Office lookalikes is any worse than that between 
different MS Word setups - particularly different versions.
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#359

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-09-21 14:19 +0000
Message-ID	<rkacpa$sie$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#247

On Tue, 01 Sep 2020 23:05:27 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:

> Maybe - but even if you transfer an MS Word document created on one 
> computer to another computer running MS Word there's no guarantee that 
> it will look the same - depending on the setup of the two computers, 
> available fonts, etc. It's much more likely to look the same if PDF 
> format is used - but it's not then readily editable. I doubt whether the 
> disparity between Office lookalikes is any worse than that between 
> different MS Word setups - particularly different versions.

Update:

Always striving to add on-topic technical value, here's yet another way to
instantly and easily freely _extend_ the basic functionality of an older MS
Office version so that it can read the newer MS Office formats.

Caveats:
o I tested this only on one machine, and only on MS Office 2007.
o I don't yet have an office document with newer formats to test against.

o This link to the MS Office Compatibility Tool is apparently defunct: 
  <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=33298>

o This link, supposedly, contains a second source:
  <http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Other-Office-Tools/Microsoft-Office-Compatibility-Pack-2007-File-Formats.shtml>

o That results in:
  <https://softpedia-secure-download.com/dl/ff9aa8f36ae42d6ec36cee005ace7589/5f68a59a/100058971/software/office/FileFormatConverters.exe>
  Name: FileFormatConverters.exe
  Size: 28399752 bytes (27 MiB)
  SHA256: A87A88BF0C89A6DA0DE9973A4E501C4CCC3B317CE26EC022D98B528372106E36

o With MS Office 2007 installed, running that resulted in the message:
 "Compatibility Pack has been installed."
 "Compatibility Pack for the 2007 Office system."
 "The installation is complete".

Note: That doesn't show up in:
Win+I > Apps > Apps & features > (it doesn't show up here, unfortunately).

Note: I need to find an incompatible MS Office document to test it with.

In addition, I don't remember if we discussed how to add Save-as-PDF to
easily & freely extend the capabilities of the older Microsoft Office.

Microsoft Office 2007 can only "print" to PDF and not "Save as PDF" 
unless you run the "SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe" tool from Microsoft.
o 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS 
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7>

Run the SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe _after_ installing Office 2007.
 Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe
 Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB)
 SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D

You should see it show up in your installed programs listing:
o Win+I > Apps > Apps & features > 
  Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS Add-in for 2007
  Microsoft Office Programs version 12.0.4518.1014 (same as office version)
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If you have a link to an incompatible newer format to test, let me know.

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#2148

From	Glow PC <glowpc6@gmail.com>
Date	2023-06-11 06:28 -0700
Message-ID	<fb27d4da-50a1-4a82-8c2c-2bb1cf2d5cf4n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#359

On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 7:19:23 PM UTC+5, Arlen   Holder wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2020 23:05:27 +0100, Roger Mills wrote: 
> 
> > Maybe - but even if you transfer an MS Word document created on one 
> > computer to another computer running MS Word there's no guarantee that 
> > it will look the same - depending on the setup of the two computers, 
> > available fonts, etc. It's much more likely to look the same if PDF 
> > format is used - but it's not then readily editable. I doubt whether the 
> > disparity between Office lookalikes is any worse than that between 
> > different MS Word setups - particularly different versions.
> Update: 
> 
> Always striving to add on-topic technical value, here's yet another way to 
> instantly and easily freely _extend_ the basic functionality of an older MS 
> Office version so that it can read the newer MS Office formats. 
> 
> Caveats: 
> o I tested this only on one machine, and only on MS Office 2007. 
> o I don't yet have an office document with newer formats to test against. 
> 
> o This link to the MS Office Compatibility Tool is apparently defunct: 
> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=33298> 
> 
> o This link, supposedly, contains a second source: 
> <http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Other-Office-Tools/Microsoft-Office-Compatibility-Pack-2007-File-Formats.shtml> 
> 
> o That results in: 
> <https://softpedia-secure-download.com/dl/ff9aa8f36ae42d6ec36cee005ace7589/5f68a59a/100058971/software/office/FileFormatConverters.exe> 
> Name: FileFormatConverters.exe 
> Size: 28399752 bytes (27 MiB) 
> SHA256: A87A88BF0C89A6DA0DE9973A4E501C4CCC3B317CE26EC022D98B528372106E36 
> 
> o With MS Office 2007 installed, running that resulted in the message: 
> "Compatibility Pack has been installed." 
> "Compatibility Pack for the 2007 Office system." 
> "The installation is complete". 
> 
> Note: That doesn't show up in: 
> Win+I > Apps > Apps & features > (it doesn't show up here, unfortunately). 
> 
> Note: I need to find an incompatible MS Office document to test it with. 
> 
> In addition, I don't remember if we discussed how to add Save-as-PDF to 
> easily & freely extend the capabilities of the older Microsoft Office.
> Microsoft Office 2007 can only "print" to PDF and not "Save as PDF"
> unless you run the "SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe" tool from Microsoft. 
> o 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS 
> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7> 
> 
> Run the SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe _after_ installing Office 2007.
> Name: SaveAsPDFandXPS.exe 
> Size: 956344 bytes (933 KiB) 
> SHA256: 32769F304991D8D5836D9AFADF20DB1FBAF6876F29E5FEB0D19C5B806A67441D
> You should see it show up in your installed programs listing: 
> o Win+I > Apps > Apps & features > 
> Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS Add-in for 2007 
> Microsoft Office Programs version 12.0.4518.1014 (same as office version) 
> -- 
> If you have a link to an incompatible newer format to test, let me know.
https://www.glowpc.com/inpage-2012-free-download/

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#244

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date	2020-09-01 16:32 -0400
Message-ID	<rimb5i$jvf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#236

Chris wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> Roger Mills wrote:
>>
>>> But I would like to be able to save as PDF. I'm hoping the link you 
>>> cited will fix that, but I'm currently away from my W10 system for a few 
>>> days so can't test that at the moment.
>> There's a Print To PDF print driver already installed
>> in Windows 10.
> 
> This. Or try libreoffice. It'll read office files quite well for export to
> pdf. 
> 

The point is, this is a system-wide print-to-pdf facility.

I think the only reason Windows 10 got it, was to match the Apple OS.

Notice that the output to XPS facility still exists.
And how many customers could possibly be using that ?
Maybe the Smithsonian needed it, to print a sample
document entitled "Example of defunct XPS output".

Microsoft tried to make a competitor to PDF, and XPS
was it. I think they might have even changed XPS at
one point, such that the XPS output of one Windows
OS, would not work on another Windows OS :-/
(Which is the very purpose of portable document formats.)

For those keeping track, a very nice capability (print-to-PDF) exists for:
no reason at all.

    Paul

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#246

From	Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date	2020-09-01 21:22 +0000
Message-ID	<rime33$35o$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#244

On Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:32:55 -0400, Paul wrote:

> Notice that the output to XPS facility still exists.
> And how many customers could possibly be using that ?
> Maybe the Smithsonian needed it, to print a sample
> document entitled "Example of defunct XPS output".

Hi Paul,
I blurted out my drink when I read that Smithsonian example! :)
o Thanks for the sensibly stated well-intended illustrative humor.

Like many, I'm rather old, and I've _never_ needed XPS in my life.
o What the heck is the use for it that is practical anyway?

As for printing to PDF, I've been adding the PDF driver for decades, 
as has almost everyone here, at least until MS added it to the OS.

The PDF printer driver I used, most, was:
o cutePDF Writer <https://www.cutepdf.com/index.htm>
  <https://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp>
  <https://www.cutepdf.com/download/CuteWriter.exe>

Where I just noticed it also has a "PDF Editor" freeware???
o CutePDF Editor <https://www.cutepdf-editor.com/>
Which "seems" to be a webapp of some kind in the browser???
o <https://editor.cutepdf.com/>

Has anyone used that to _edit_ PDF files?
o What do you think of it?
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#237

From	Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com>
Date	2020-08-31 09:50 -0400
Message-ID	<4qvpkf1f8rskpkte92qp8enhnb3mh5ifdd@4ax.com>
In reply to	#227

Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:12:59 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:
>
>> My W7 machines on which I installed Office 2007 years ago have received 
>> lots of security updates and bug fixes. Since it's no longer supported, 
>> the version recently installed on W10 hasn't had *any* updates.
>
>While I don't disagree Office 2007 isn't likely updated, that's almost like 
>worrying that a 2007 vehicle hasn't had any updates from the manufacturer.
>
>Why does it matter?
>
>Like a 2007 vehicle, it works just as well in 2020 as it did in 2007, and, 
>in actuality, just as with a 2007 vehicle, there's nothing but MARKETING 
>changes (e.g., the exterior GUI changes a lot) between the old & the new.

One biggie is that the Help system for Office 2007 was entirely
online. Nowadays, if you use the Help menu in Office 2007 you just get
a message that the product is no longer supported. Not much help! Of
course there are resources: web forums, newsgroups, mailing lists,
google, etc, etc. But it's a PITA that the help menu is utterly
useless.

-- 
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tim <at> risingdove <dot> com

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#245

From	ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date	2020-09-01 16:15 -0500
Message-ID	<NaOdnR3-E-dmJNPCnZ2dnUU7-RednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#237

In alt.windows7.general Tim Slattery <tim@risingdove.com> wrote:
> Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> wrote:

> >On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 13:12:59 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:
> >
> >> My W7 machines on which I installed Office 2007 years ago have received 
> >> lots of security updates and bug fixes. Since it's no longer supported, 
> >> the version recently installed on W10 hasn't had *any* updates.
> >
> >While I don't disagree Office 2007 isn't likely updated, that's almost like 
> >worrying that a 2007 vehicle hasn't had any updates from the manufacturer.
> >
> >Why does it matter?
> >
> >Like a 2007 vehicle, it works just as well in 2020 as it did in 2007, and, 
> >in actuality, just as with a 2007 vehicle, there's nothing but MARKETING 
> >changes (e.g., the exterior GUI changes a lot) between the old & the new.

> One biggie is that the Help system for Office 2007 was entirely
> online. Nowadays, if you use the Help menu in Office 2007 you just get
> a message that the product is no longer supported. Not much help! Of
> course there are resources: web forums, newsgroups, mailing lists,
> google, etc, etc. But it's a PITA that the help menu is utterly
> useless.

Was there ever an offline help version from Office 2007?
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