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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 09:09:05, Mayayana <mayayana@invalid.nospam> 
wrote:
>"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote
>
>| Assuming you mean this image is in an email, then you need to use a
>| desktop email "clent/clinet" in which the image viewer part knows about
>| orientation tags, if you want to have "inline images" appear as they do
>| on your 'phone (in which the email client probably _does_ know about
>| orientation tags). Similarly, if you want to be able to forward them
>| without doing anything to do with them, then you need the people to whom
>| you forward them to also have such a client.
>
>   Do such email programs exist?

I don't know. I'd be surprised if the various ways of getting an image 
taken on one 'phone to appear on another 'phone don't know about 
orientation tags, but being such an old fossil that my 'phone spends 
most of its time turned off, I rather suspect they use something other 
than the quaint thing we know as "email" for transferring such images.

> I don't think
>most software even turns them.

Possibly not email software. I think I've seen a control in IrfanView 
for whether it should heed orientation tags or not - hang on, I'll look: 
hmm, not sure I understand it, but there _are_ several references in the 
Help.

> This is yet
>another harebrained idea to save iPhone users
>from having to understand what they're doing.

To be fair, I think several standalone cameras have 
orientation-detection hardware too, and I'd be surprised if they don't 
just record a flag rather than storing the pixels in a different order.

>Any JPG that requires software to check the
>orientation EXIF tags is a faulty image.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying there: if you acknowledge the 
_existence_ of the orientation tag (I didn't know it was part of EXIF 
but that makes sense), then what would you consider its function?

>
>  But it doesn't hurt to send a non-confrontational
>email to the sender, suggesting they could deal with
>orientation when they take the photo.
>
Good luck with that (-:. (I don't mean re confrontation, I just mean 
most people taking pictures these days - with means 'phone users - 
wouldn't have a clue what you were on about.)
>
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

It's quickly getting to a place where privacy will be cause for suspicion.
- Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-6.

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Re: Rotated image Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:07 +0000
  Re: Rotated image Jim Scott <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2020-08-03 23:45 +0100
    Re: Rotated image Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 23:35 +0000
      Re: Rotated image Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2020-08-04 00:42 +0100
        Re: Rotated image Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-04 02:06 +0000
          Re: Rotated image Jim Scott <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2020-08-04 10:04 +0100
    Re: Rotated image "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2020-08-04 02:14 +0100
      Re: Rotated image "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2020-08-04 09:09 -0400
        Re: Rotated image nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 10:05 -0400
        Re: Rotated image "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2020-08-04 22:07 +0100
          Re: Rotated image "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2020-08-04 17:35 -0400
            Re: Rotated image nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 18:00 -0400
            Re: Rotated image "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2020-08-04 23:18 +0100
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