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NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

Started byAnonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org>
First post2015-11-29 03:43 +0100
Last post2015-11-29 11:54 -0800
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  NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-11-29 03:43 +0100
    Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Jonno <me@privacy.nob> - 2015-11-29 09:00 +0000
    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-11-29 08:23 -0200
      Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-29 07:36 -0500
        Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-11-29 17:15 -0200
          Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 11:52 -0800
            Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 13:05 -0700
              Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 13:55 -0800
                Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:07 -0700
                  Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 14:12 -0800
                    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:14 -0700
                    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Clientes <clientes.masivos@gmail.com> - 2015-11-30 04:23 +0100
                  Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Info <info@todoenpacks.com> - 2015-11-29 22:44 +0000
                    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:53 -0700
            Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 14:10 -0800
              Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:55 -0700
    Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-29 10:47 -0500
      Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-29 10:53 -0500
    Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 11:54 -0800

#249090 — NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromAnonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org>
Date2015-11-29 03:43 +0100
SubjectNSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<ab068233d2412589a7fe7d3761051b4f@hoi-polloi.org>
The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the 
telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
midnight Saturday, ending a raging controversy that began with 
disclosures about the secret program by Edward Snowden.

Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be 
made to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own 
data. The government will no longer retain the information.

http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true

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#249095

FromJonno <me@privacy.nob>
Date2015-11-29 09:00 +0000
Message-ID<MPG.30c4cf185b41e34e98998d@127.0.0.1>
In reply to#249090
Anonymous scribbled 

> 
> The federal government?s collection of bulk data from the 
> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
> midnight Saturday, ending a raging controversy that began with 
> disclosures about the secret program by Edward Snowden.
> 
> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be 
> made to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own 
> data. The government will no longer retain the information.
> 
> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true


GCHQ will do the collecting for them.

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#249099 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromShadow <Sh@dow.br>
Date2015-11-29 08:23 -0200
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com>
In reply to#249090
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
<anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:

>The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the 
>telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
>midnight Saturday.

	And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
every Wednesday with the money they saved.
	OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
	[]'s

PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
Labeled accordingly.
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#249106 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-11-29 07:36 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<n3erc3$ak3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#249099
"Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>
>>The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>midnight Saturday.
>
> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
> []'s
>
> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
> Labeled accordingly.

People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.



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#249115 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromShadow <Sh@dow.br>
Date2015-11-29 17:15 -0200
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<bhjm5b5t6l8ag79agsvrgsfd69kpf9nvco@4ax.com>
In reply to#249106
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
>news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>
>>>The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>midnight Saturday.
>>
>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>> []'s
>>
>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>> Labeled accordingly.
>
>People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>

	Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
	[]'s
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#249116 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-11-29 11:52 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#249115
On 11/29/15 11:15, Shadow so wittily quipped:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> "Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
>> news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>> midnight Saturday.
>>>
>>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>>> []'s
>>>
>>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>>> Labeled accordingly.
>>
>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>
> 
> 	Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
> 	[]'s
> 

it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.

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#249118 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-29 13:05 -0700
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<D280A8AA.6578B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#249116
On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>> 
>> 
>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>> []'s
>> 
> 
> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.

Evidence of this claim?


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#249124 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-11-29 13:55 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#249118
On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
> 
>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>> []'s
>>>
>>
>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
> 
> Evidence of this claim?
> 
> 

common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!

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#249125 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-29 15:07 -0700
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<D280C52C.6579A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#249124
On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>> []'s
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>> 
>> Evidence of this claim?
>> 
>> 
> 
> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
> 
> 
In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.


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#249127 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-11-29 14:12 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<5NKdnVPdufWh5cbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#249125
On 11/29/15 14:07, Snit so wittily quipped:
> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>>> []'s
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>>>
>>> Evidence of this claim?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
>>
>>
> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.

FUCK OFF, TROLL!

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#249128 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-29 15:14 -0700
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<D280C6D7.6579F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#249127
On 11/29/15, 3:12 PM, in article
5NKdnVPdufWh5cbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

> On 11/29/15 14:07, Snit so wittily quipped:
>> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
>> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>>>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>>>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>>>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>>>> 
>>>> Evidence of this claim?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
>>> 
>>> 
>> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.
> 
> FUCK OFF, TROLL!

Your emotional reaction is not in any way surprising. But still comes down
to your claim is baseless. You are fine with that and so am I.


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#249140 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromClientes <clientes.masivos@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-30 04:23 +0100
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<adc05732cb450809f2b754e601dc03fd@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
In reply to#249127
In article <5NKdnVPdufWh5cbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>
> FUCK OFF, TROLL!

PKB

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#249129 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromInfo <info@todoenpacks.com>
Date2015-11-29 22:44 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<20151129224455.27D8C1200AB@fleegle.mixmin.net>
In reply to#249125
In article <D280C52C.6579A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>
> > On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
> >> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
> >> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> >> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
> >>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
> >>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
> >>>> []'s
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
> >>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
> >>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
> >>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
> >>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
> >>
> >> Evidence of this claim?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
> >
> >
> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.
>

+1

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#249130 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-29 15:53 -0700
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<D280CFED.657AC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#249129
On 11/29/15, 3:44 PM, in article
20151129224455.27D8C1200AB@fleegle.mixmin.net, "Info" <info@todoenpacks.com>
wrote:

> In article <D280C52C.6579A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
>> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>>>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>>>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>>>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>>>> 
>>>> Evidence of this claim?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
>>> 
>>> 
>> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.
>> 
> 
> +1
> 
I *have* talked to conservatives who can do better than that... but
unfortunately they are rare. American conservatives is based very much on
emotion, mostly fear. There are studies showing that conservatives are more
focused on fear, and studies showing that Fox is the most trusted source,
that Fox viewers tend to use fewer sources of news, and that Fox is the
least reliable source.

One might be able to be conservative and logical, but it to do so one would
have to use actual reasoning to get to those conclusions and not the emotion
and misinformation generally used.


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#249126 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-11-29 14:10 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<5NKdnVDdufVu6sbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#249116
On 11/29/15 11:52, Big Bad Bob so wittily quipped:
> On 11/29/15 11:15, Shadow so wittily quipped:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
>>> news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>>>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>>> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>>> midnight Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>>>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>>>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>>>> []'s
>>>>
>>>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>>>> Labeled accordingly.
>>>
>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>
>>
>> 	Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>> 	[]'s
>>
> 
> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
> 
> 

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2606/deadbeats_swinging_in_the_welfare_hammock

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/when-welfare-pays-better-work

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6067/welfare_trapping_europeans_in_poverty

['lose the will to work' = 'welfare pays better, so why fucking bother?']

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#249131 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-29 15:55 -0700
SubjectRe: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program
Message-ID<D280D06A.657AE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#249126
On 11/29/15, 3:10 PM, in article
5NKdnVDdufVu6sbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

> On 11/29/15 11:52, Big Bad Bob so wittily quipped:
>> On 11/29/15 11:15, Shadow so wittily quipped:
>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message
>>>> news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>>>>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>>>> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>>>> midnight Saturday.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>>>>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>>>>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>>>>> []'s
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>>>>> Labeled accordingly.
>>>> 
>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>> []'s
>>> 
>> 
>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>> 
>> 
> 
> http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2606/deadbeats_swinging_in_the_welfare_h
> ammock
> 
> http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/when-welfare-pays-better-work
> 
> http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6067/welfare_trapping_europeans_in_pover
> ty
> 
> ['lose the will to work' = 'welfare pays better, so why fucking bother?']
> 
> 
Our system is broken and at times discourages people from working. I have
seen this first hand. I have not heard a politician from EITHER major party
ever back this, though. And it does not in any way back the idea that those
in need are not doing what they can to take care of themselves.


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#249111

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-29 10:47 -0500
Message-ID<n3f6hr$hg0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#249090
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On 2015-11-28 9:43 PM, Anonymous wrote:
> The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the telephone
> calls of virtually every American will stop at midnight Saturday,
> ending a raging controversy that began with disclosures about the
> secret program by Edward Snowden.
> 
> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be made
> to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own data. The
> government will no longer retain the information.
> 
> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection- 
> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true

They're ending that but replacing it with more or less the same thing.


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November 24th, 2015
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#249112

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-11-29 10:53 -0500
Message-ID<n3f6se$jca$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#249111
"Slimer" <.m@nsn.s> wrote in message news:n3f6hr$hg0$2@dont-email.me...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA256
>
>>
>> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific
>> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be made
>> to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own data. The
>> government will no longer retain the information.
>>
>> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
>> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
>
> They're ending that but replacing it with more or less the same thing.
>

They're scrapping v1 after using it for 14 years.

It's time to bring v2.0 online.


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#249117

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-11-29 11:54 -0800
Message-ID<OPmdnW3vnPhsysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#249090
On 11/28/15 18:43, Anonymous so wittily quipped:
> The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the 
> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
> midnight Saturday, ending a raging controversy that began with 
> disclosures about the secret program by Edward Snowden.
> 
> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be 
> made to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own 
> data. The government will no longer retain the information.
> 
> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
> 

I saw a similar article in 'The Register' a while back.  I'm still in
"wait and see" mode on this one.

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