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  It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> - 2025-11-10 08:51 +0000
    Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-11-10 22:07 +0000
      Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 22:34 +0000
        Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again ALB <alb@lupinedb.org> - 2025-11-10 20:54 -0500
          Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 02:08 +0000
            Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again ALB <alb@lupinedb.org> - 2025-11-11 16:58 -0500
          Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-11-11 23:38 +0000
      Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again Mitchell Holman <nomail@aol.com> - 2025-11-11 02:54 +0000
        Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 05:45 +0000
      [Spam] Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again Democrats Hate Facts <invalid@dont-email.me> - 2025-11-11 11:51 +0100

#83 — It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again

There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman 
going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month she 
and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her 
being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to 
the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary 
things and then demands money from the government to support herself.

She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to fund 
her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her household.

And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's 
no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be 
thankful for what they've gotten.

Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get 
SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.

There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get 
that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks, too 
many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.

These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be 
permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.

People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of 
taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They 
should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.

When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it at 
least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about 
it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led them 
to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too 
damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work 
requirements.

But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.

For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate, some 
literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That 
hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They 
need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves 
in.

And it's not just the welfare queens, either.

There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions 
who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian 
Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you 
can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own 
oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of 
responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive parts.

You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe 
what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of 
filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a 
horrible human being.

Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.

Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to 
stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists, deadbeats, 
and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen into 
carbon dioxide.

Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but 
there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus 
someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund their 
eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of scorn, 
if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's 
unacceptable to do that when you can work.

Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their own, 
without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make 
America great again.

https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120

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#84

On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman 
> going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month she 
> and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her 
> being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to 
> the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary 
> things and then demands money from the government to support herself.
>
> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to fund 
> her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her household.
>
> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's 
> no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be 
> thankful for what they've gotten.
>
> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get 
> SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>
> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get 
> that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks, too 
> many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.
>
> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be 
> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>
> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of 
> taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They 
> should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.
>
> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it at 
> least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about 
> it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led them 
> to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too 
> damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work 
> requirements.
>
> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.
>
> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate, some 
> literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That 
> hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They 
> need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves 
> in.
>
> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>
> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions 
> who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian 
> Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you 
> can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own 
> oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of 
> responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive parts.
>
> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe 
> what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of 
> filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a 
> horrible human being.
>
> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>
> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to 
> stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists, deadbeats, 
> and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen into 
> carbon dioxide.
>
> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but 
> there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus 
> someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund their 
> eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of scorn, 
> if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's 
> unacceptable to do that when you can work.
>
> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their own, 
> without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make 
> America great again.
>
> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120

This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic backgrounds.
These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do if you know how, is
worn as a badge of honor.
NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and grifters
who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government checks and work tax
free off the books.

And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end cars, extravegant
vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
Why?
Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do anything but the most
basic checks for eligibility.

That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of fraud and waste in
the government assistance programs is staggering. And these are funds that could be allocated to
people who really need some assistance for whatever reason.

Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist and so forth.
It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.
The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.
The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for this routine anymore and hence
the government shutdown where the demonrats attempted to pull the bigot, republicans want you to starve
game once again but failed to mention one "minor fact" which is NOBODY wants people to starve however
the republicans AND the voters do not want to fund welfare, healthcare and so forth for illegal migrants.
They kept leaving that part out but the voters quickly caught on to the ruse.
And as for medical care, if an illegal is in dire need of medical care, patch him or her up and once
well enough to travel deport them back to their home country.

The system is not designed to accomodate the massive number of invaders that Biden allowed into the country.
You might want to ask UK and Germany about that one.
It's not sustainable.

Laws are in place for a reason. A country without laws that are enforced is no longer a country but simply a wasteland
run by anarchy.
If the demonrat leftists don't like the laws, vote out the representatives who support them.





-- 
pothead
Give a Democrat a fish and he'll eat all day.
Teach a Democrat to fish and......
He'll steal your rod
Take your wallet
Assault the fish & 
Blame Trump.

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#85

On Nov 10, 2025 at 3:07:40 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
<10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me>:

> On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman
>> going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month she
>> and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her
>> being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to
>> the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary
>> things and then demands money from the government to support herself.
>> 
>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to fund
>> her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her household.
>> 
>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's
>> no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be
>> thankful for what they've gotten.
>> 
>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get
>> SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>> 
>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get
>> that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks, too
>> many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.
>> 
>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>> 
>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of
>> taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They
>> should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.
>> 
>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it at
>> least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about
>> it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led them
>> to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too
>> damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work
>> requirements.
>> 
>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.
>> 
>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate, some
>> literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That
>> hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They
>> need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves
>> in.
>> 
>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>> 
>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions
>> who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian
>> Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you
>> can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own
>> oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of
>> responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive parts.
>> 
>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe
>> what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of
>> filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a
>> horrible human being.
>> 
>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>> 
>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to
>> stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists, deadbeats,
>> and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen into
>> carbon dioxide.
>> 
>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but
>> there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus
>> someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund their
>> eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of scorn,
>> if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's
>> unacceptable to do that when you can work.
>> 
>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their own,
>> without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make
>> America great again.
>> 
>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120

This rant spreads old welfare myths. SNAP doesn’t pay $1,000 a month to
individuals, can’t be spent on tattoos or nails, and most recipients already
work. Shaming poor families doesn’t make them more self-sufficient — it just
fuels resentment and misinformation. Poverty isn’t a moral failure, and
mocking people who need help says more about the accuser than about those
struggling to eat.

> 
> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic backgrounds.
> These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do if you know how, is
> worn as a badge of honor.
> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and grifters
> who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government checks and work
> tax
> free off the books.
> 
> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end cars,
> extravegant
> vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
> Why?
> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do anything
> but the most
> basic checks for eligibility.
> 
> That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of fraud and
> waste in
> the government assistance programs is staggering. And these are funds that
> could be allocated to
> people who really need some assistance for whatever reason.
> 
> Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist and so
> forth.
> It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.
> The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.
> The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for this
> routine anymore and hence
> the government shutdown where the demonrats attempted to pull the bigot,
> republicans want you to starve
> game once again but failed to mention one "minor fact" which is NOBODY wants
> people to starve however
> the republicans AND the voters do not want to fund welfare, healthcare and so
> forth for illegal migrants.
> They kept leaving that part out but the voters quickly caught on to the ruse.
> And as for medical care, if an illegal is in dire need of medical care, patch
> him or her up and once
> well enough to travel deport them back to their home country.
> 
> The system is not designed to accomodate the massive number of invaders that
> Biden allowed into the country.
> You might want to ask UK and Germany about that one.
> It's not sustainable.
> 
> Laws are in place for a reason. A country without laws that are enforced is no
> longer a country but simply a wasteland
> run by anarchy.
> If the demonrat leftists don't like the laws, vote out the representatives who
> support them.

The fraud narrative here is baseless -- verified rates are under 1%. The
language about "invaders" and "demonrats" borrows directly from
white-supremacist propaganda that paints immigrants and welfare recipients as
subhuman threats. Undocumented immigrants can't even get federal welfare
benefits. As I have noted, you right wingers, and especially you white
supremacists, are all about tribalism and scapegoating -- and you (you
personally) prove it time and time again.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#86

On 10 Nov 2025 22:34:25 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

> On Nov 10, 2025 at 3:07:40 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
> <10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman
>>> going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month she
>>> and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her
>>> being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to
>>> the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary
>>> things and then demands money from the government to support herself.
>>> 
>>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to fund
>>> her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her household.
>>> 
>>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's
>>> no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be
>>> thankful for what they've gotten.
>>> 
>>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get
>>> SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>>> 
>>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get
>>> that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks, too
>>> many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.
>>> 
>>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>>> 
>>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of
>>> taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They
>>> should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.
>>> 
>>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it at
>>> least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about
>>> it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led them
>>> to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too
>>> damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work
>>> requirements.
>>> 
>>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.
>>> 
>>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate, some
>>> literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That
>>> hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They
>>> need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves
>>> in.
>>> 
>>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>>> 
>>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions
>>> who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian
>>> Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you
>>> can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own
>>> oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of
>>> responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive parts.
>>> 
>>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe
>>> what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of
>>> filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a
>>> horrible human being.
>>> 
>>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>>> 
>>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to
>>> stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists, deadbeats,
>>> and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen into
>>> carbon dioxide.
>>> 
>>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but
>>> there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus
>>> someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund their
>>> eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of scorn,
>>> if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's
>>> unacceptable to do that when you can work.
>>> 
>>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their own,
>>> without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make
>>> America great again.
>>> 
>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120
> 
> This rant spreads old welfare myths. SNAP doesn’t pay $1,000 a month to
> individuals, can’t be spent on tattoos or nails, and most recipients already
> work. Shaming poor families doesn’t make them more self-sufficient — it just
> fuels resentment and misinformation. Poverty isn’t a moral failure, and
> mocking people who need help says more about the accuser than about those
> struggling to eat.
> 
>> 
>> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic backgrounds.
>> These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do if you know how, is
>> worn as a badge of honor.
>> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and grifters
>> who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government checks and work
>> tax
>> free off the books.
>> 
>> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end cars,
>> extravegant
>> vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
>> Why?
>> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do anything
>> but the most
>> basic checks for eligibility.
>> 
>> That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of fraud and
>> waste in
>> the government assistance programs is staggering. And these are funds that
>> could be allocated to
>> people who really need some assistance for whatever reason.
>> 
>> Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist and so
>> forth.
>> It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.
>> The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.
>> The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for this
>> routine anymore and hence
>> the government shutdown where the demonrats attempted to pull the bigot,
>> republicans want you to starve
>> game once again but failed to mention one "minor fact" which is NOBODY wants
>> people to starve however
>> the republicans AND the voters do not want to fund welfare, healthcare and so
>> forth for illegal migrants.
>> They kept leaving that part out but the voters quickly caught on to the ruse.
>> And as for medical care, if an illegal is in dire need of medical care, patch
>> him or her up and once
>> well enough to travel deport them back to their home country.
>> 
>> The system is not designed to accomodate the massive number of invaders that
>> Biden allowed into the country.
>> You might want to ask UK and Germany about that one.
>> It's not sustainable.
>> 
>> Laws are in place for a reason. A country without laws that are enforced is no
>> longer a country but simply a wasteland
>> run by anarchy.
>> If the demonrat leftists don't like the laws, vote out the representatives who
>> support them.
> 
> The fraud narrative here is baseless -- verified rates are under 1%. The
> language about "invaders" and "demonrats" borrows directly from
> white-supremacist propaganda that paints immigrants and welfare recipients as
> subhuman threats. Undocumented immigrants can't even get federal welfare
> benefits. As I have noted, you right wingers, and especially you white
> supremacists, are all about tribalism and scapegoating -- and you (you
> personally) prove it time and time again.

You sound like an NPR brainwashed liberal.
While your points might have been somewhat true 20 years ago that is
no longer the case.
While I don't support calling democrats demonrats labeling illegal
migrants as invaders is accurate.
What term would you use?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/criminals/

<https://youtu.be/ezNmAv1ohCo?si=kX1SXbnAFs-6ZqQm>

<https://moneywise.com/news/minnesota-removes-800-medicaid-providers-from-system-in-effort-to-tackle-systemic-fraud-heres-how-itll-impact-access-to-care>

<https://www.middletownpress.com/news/article/medicaid-fraud-ramon-apellaniz-sentenced-21138478.php>

The list is endless.

So stop quoting your progressive cherry picked stats and start waking
up because people who work hard to earn money are fed up with those on
the take scamming the system.

Public assistance is there as a safety net for people who,by no fault
of their own have fallen on hard times.
It's not designed to support 3 generations of able bodied citizens on
welfare.
 

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#87

On Nov 10, 2025 at 6:54:44 PM MST, "ALB" wrote
<roizhqulx494$.ttz1y7gf0kmh$.dlg@40tude.net>:

> On 10 Nov 2025 22:34:25 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2025 at 3:07:40 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
>> <10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman
>>>> going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month she
>>>> and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her
>>>> being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to
>>>> the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary
>>>> things and then demands money from the government to support herself.
>>>> 
>>>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to fund
>>>> her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her household.
>>>> 
>>>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's
>>>> no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be
>>>> thankful for what they've gotten.
>>>> 
>>>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get
>>>> SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>>>> 
>>>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get
>>>> that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks, too
>>>> many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.
>>>> 
>>>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>>>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>>>> 
>>>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of
>>>> taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They
>>>> should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it at
>>>> least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about
>>>> it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led them
>>>> to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too
>>>> damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work
>>>> requirements.
>>>> 
>>>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.
>>>> 
>>>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate, some
>>>> literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That
>>>> hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They
>>>> need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves
>>>> in.
>>>> 
>>>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>>>> 
>>>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions
>>>> who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian
>>>> Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you
>>>> can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own
>>>> oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of
>>>> responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive parts.
>>>> 
>>>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe
>>>> what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of
>>>> filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a
>>>> horrible human being.
>>>> 
>>>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>>>> 
>>>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to
>>>> stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists, deadbeats,
>>>> and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen into
>>>> carbon dioxide.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but
>>>> there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus
>>>> someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund their
>>>> eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of scorn,
>>>> if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's
>>>> unacceptable to do that when you can work.
>>>> 
>>>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their own,
>>>> without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make
>>>> America great again.
>>>> 
>>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>>>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120
>> 
>> This rant spreads old welfare myths. SNAP doesn’t pay $1,000 a month to
>> individuals, can’t be spent on tattoos or nails, and most recipients already
>> work. Shaming poor families doesn’t make them more self-sufficient — it just
>> fuels resentment and misinformation. Poverty isn’t a moral failure, and
>> mocking people who need help says more about the accuser than about those
>> struggling to eat.
>> 
>>> 
>>> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic backgrounds.
>>> These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do if you know how, is
>>> worn as a badge of honor.
>>> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and grifters
>>> who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government checks and work
>>> tax
>>> free off the books.
>>> 
>>> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end cars,
>>> extravegant
>>> vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
>>> Why?
>>> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do anything
>>> but the most
>>> basic checks for eligibility.
>>> 
>>> That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of fraud and
>>> waste in
>>> the government assistance programs is staggering. And these are funds that
>>> could be allocated to
>>> people who really need some assistance for whatever reason.
>>> 
>>> Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist and so
>>> forth.
>>> It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.
>>> The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.
>>> The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for this
>>> routine anymore and hence
>>> the government shutdown where the demonrats attempted to pull the bigot,
>>> republicans want you to starve
>>> game once again but failed to mention one "minor fact" which is NOBODY wants
>>> people to starve however
>>> the republicans AND the voters do not want to fund welfare, healthcare and so
>>> forth for illegal migrants.
>>> They kept leaving that part out but the voters quickly caught on to the ruse.
>>> And as for medical care, if an illegal is in dire need of medical care, patch
>>> him or her up and once
>>> well enough to travel deport them back to their home country.
>>> 
>>> The system is not designed to accomodate the massive number of invaders that
>>> Biden allowed into the country.
>>> You might want to ask UK and Germany about that one.
>>> It's not sustainable.
>>> 
>>> Laws are in place for a reason. A country without laws that are enforced is no
>>> longer a country but simply a wasteland
>>> run by anarchy.
>>> If the demonrat leftists don't like the laws, vote out the representatives who
>>> support them.
>> 
>> The fraud narrative here is baseless -- verified rates are under 1%. The
>> language about "invaders" and "demonrats" borrows directly from
>> white-supremacist propaganda that paints immigrants and welfare recipients as
>> subhuman threats. Undocumented immigrants can't even get federal welfare
>> benefits. As I have noted, you right wingers, and especially you white
>> supremacists, are all about tribalism and scapegoating -- and you (you
>> personally) prove it time and time again.
> 
> You sound like an NPR brainwashed liberal.

I look to evidence, reason, logic and care about equal rights and the
environment. So, sure, most people categorize that as "liberal".

> While your points might have been somewhat true 20 years ago that is
> no longer the case.
> While I don't support calling democrats demonrats labeling illegal
> migrants as invaders is accurate.

Nope.

> What term would you use?

Undocumented workers -- ones who improve our economy and are needed. Still we
should make a better system. The current black market system is insane.
> 
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/criminals/

The White House does have criminals -- starting with the felon who is the
president.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/ezNmAv1ohCo?si=kX1SXbnAFs-6ZqQm>
> 
> <https://moneywise.com/news/minnesota-removes-800-medicaid-providers-from-system-in-effort-to-tackle-systemic-fraud-heres-how-itll-impact-access-to-care>
> 
> <https://www.middletownpress.com/news/article/medicaid-fraud-ramon-apellaniz-sentenced-21138478.php>
> 
> The list is endless.

Statistically citizens are more violent. You are looking at appeals to
emotion.

> So stop quoting your progressive cherry picked stats and start waking
> up because people who work hard to earn money are fed up with those on
> the take scamming the system.

You are against stats... and have nothing to counter them. As you said, I am
"liberal", meaning I use evidence, reason, logic and care about equal rights
and the environment
> 
> Public assistance is there as a safety net for people who,by no fault
> of their own have fallen on hard times.

And yet the president -- a felon -- is in court trying to starve them.

> It's not designed to support 3 generations of able bodied citizens on
> welfare.

Our current system of funding the rich and demonizing the poor is irrational
and immoral.

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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#91

On 11 Nov 2025 02:08:00 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

> On Nov 10, 2025 at 6:54:44 PM MST, "ALB" wrote
> <roizhqulx494$.ttz1y7gf0kmh$.dlg@40tude.net>:
> 
>> On 10 Nov 2025 22:34:25 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2025 at 3:07:40 PM MST, "pothead" wrote
>>> <10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me>:
>>> 
>>>> On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman
>>>>> going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month she
>>>>> and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her
>>>>> being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to
>>>>> the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary
>>>>> things and then demands money from the government to support herself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to fund
>>>>> her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her household.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's
>>>>> no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be
>>>>> thankful for what they've gotten.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get
>>>>> SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get
>>>>> that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks, too
>>>>> many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.
>>>>> 
>>>>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>>>>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>>>>> 
>>>>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of
>>>>> taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They
>>>>> should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it at
>>>>> least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about
>>>>> it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led them
>>>>> to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too
>>>>> damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work
>>>>> requirements.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate, some
>>>>> literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That
>>>>> hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They
>>>>> need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves
>>>>> in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions
>>>>> who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian
>>>>> Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you
>>>>> can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own
>>>>> oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of
>>>>> responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive parts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe
>>>>> what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of
>>>>> filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a
>>>>> horrible human being.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to
>>>>> stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists, deadbeats,
>>>>> and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen into
>>>>> carbon dioxide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but
>>>>> there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus
>>>>> someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund their
>>>>> eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of scorn,
>>>>> if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's
>>>>> unacceptable to do that when you can work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their own,
>>>>> without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make
>>>>> America great again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>>>>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120
>>> 
>>> This rant spreads old welfare myths. SNAP doesn’t pay $1,000 a month to
>>> individuals, can’t be spent on tattoos or nails, and most recipients already
>>> work. Shaming poor families doesn’t make them more self-sufficient — it just
>>> fuels resentment and misinformation. Poverty isn’t a moral failure, and
>>> mocking people who need help says more about the accuser than about those
>>> struggling to eat.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic backgrounds.
>>>> These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do if you know how, is
>>>> worn as a badge of honor.
>>>> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and grifters
>>>> who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government checks and work
>>>> tax
>>>> free off the books.
>>>> 
>>>> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end cars,
>>>> extravegant
>>>> vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
>>>> Why?
>>>> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do anything
>>>> but the most
>>>> basic checks for eligibility.
>>>> 
>>>> That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of fraud and
>>>> waste in
>>>> the government assistance programs is staggering. And these are funds that
>>>> could be allocated to
>>>> people who really need some assistance for whatever reason.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist and so
>>>> forth.
>>>> It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.
>>>> The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.
>>>> The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for this
>>>> routine anymore and hence
>>>> the government shutdown where the demonrats attempted to pull the bigot,
>>>> republicans want you to starve
>>>> game once again but failed to mention one "minor fact" which is NOBODY wants
>>>> people to starve however
>>>> the republicans AND the voters do not want to fund welfare, healthcare and so
>>>> forth for illegal migrants.
>>>> They kept leaving that part out but the voters quickly caught on to the ruse.
>>>> And as for medical care, if an illegal is in dire need of medical care, patch
>>>> him or her up and once
>>>> well enough to travel deport them back to their home country.
>>>> 
>>>> The system is not designed to accomodate the massive number of invaders that
>>>> Biden allowed into the country.
>>>> You might want to ask UK and Germany about that one.
>>>> It's not sustainable.
>>>> 
>>>> Laws are in place for a reason. A country without laws that are enforced is no
>>>> longer a country but simply a wasteland
>>>> run by anarchy.
>>>> If the demonrat leftists don't like the laws, vote out the representatives who
>>>> support them.
>>> 
>>> The fraud narrative here is baseless -- verified rates are under 1%. The
>>> language about "invaders" and "demonrats" borrows directly from
>>> white-supremacist propaganda that paints immigrants and welfare recipients as
>>> subhuman threats. Undocumented immigrants can't even get federal welfare
>>> benefits. As I have noted, you right wingers, and especially you white
>>> supremacists, are all about tribalism and scapegoating -- and you (you
>>> personally) prove it time and time again.
>> 
>> You sound like an NPR brainwashed liberal.
> 
> I look to evidence, reason, logic and care about equal rights and the
> environment. So, sure, most people categorize that as "liberal".

Other than your opinions on the topic being discussed, nobody cares
about your opinions on the environment and your evidence is severely
lacking.
Please stay on topic.



 
>> While your points might have been somewhat true 20 years ago that is
>> no longer the case.
>> While I don't support calling democrats demonrats labeling illegal
>> migrants as invaders is accurate.
> 
> Nope.

Yep.
 
>> What term would you use?
> 
> Undocumented workers -- ones who improve our economy and are needed. Still we
> should make a better system. The current black market system is insane.

Tell that the various people who have been killed, raped, lives
destroyed by truckers who can't read highway signs, trafficked, drugs,
slave labor and so forth.
They came into the USA illegally and thus they are invaders.
You are using the well worn argument that "immigrants built the
country" which doesn't apply to illegal immigrants.

In the past maybe you can make an argument for that but currently you
have no argument at all.
 
>> https://www.whitehouse.gov/criminals/
> 
> The White House does have criminals -- starting with the felon who is the
> president.

Goal post move along with a straw man argument.
Please do your best to stay on topic.
>> <https://youtu.be/ezNmAv1ohCo?si=kX1SXbnAFs-6ZqQm>
>> 
>> <https://moneywise.com/news/minnesota-removes-800-medicaid-providers-from-system-in-effort-to-tackle-systemic-fraud-heres-how-itll-impact-access-to-care>
>> 
>> <https://www.middletownpress.com/news/article/medicaid-fraud-ramon-apellaniz-sentenced-21138478.php>
>> 
>> The list is endless.
> 
> Statistically citizens are more violent. You are looking at appeals to
> emotion.


Once again you are moving the goal posts.
We are discussing fraudulent government assistance although you make a
false comparison because crimes committed by illegal's are almost 100%
preventable if they were not allowed into the country in the first
place.
So you lose again.

>> So stop quoting your progressive cherry picked stats and start waking
>> up because people who work hard to earn money are fed up with those on
>> the take scamming the system.
> 
> You are against stats... and have nothing to counter them. As you said, I am
> "liberal", meaning I use evidence, reason, logic and care about equal rights
> and the environment

Many links were presented.
You ignored them to make a baseless accusation against me.
Here's another one for you to not read.

<https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4351884/posts>
These are studies by the USDA and others reprinted.


>> Public assistance is there as a safety net for people who,by no fault
>> of their own have fallen on hard times.
> 
> And yet the president -- a felon -- is in court trying to starve them.

Straw man and goal post move yet again.
 
>> It's not designed to support 3 generations of able bodied citizens on
>> welfare.
> 
> Our current system of funding the rich and demonizing the poor is irrational
> and immoral.

Straw man and goal post move yet again.
And nobody is demonizing the poor, it is simple being stated, based
upon the evidence that fraud is running rampant. 
I stated as much above. People who are truly entitled to assistance
deserve to receive it.
For someone who claims to use logic and present evidence and facts you
have failed miserably and that's because you cannot defend people who
are manipulating the system fraudulently.
And there are a lot of them.
FWIW I've read other posts by you Mr. Brock and this seems to be a
pattern with you.

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#92

ALB <alb@lupinedb.org> news:roizhqulx494$.ttz1y7gf0kmh$.dlg@40tude.net
Tue, 11 Nov 2025 01:54:44 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote: 

> On 10 Nov 2025 22:34:25 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

[snip]

>> The fraud narrative here is baseless -- verified rates are under 1%.
>> The language about "invaders" and "demonrats" borrows directly from
>> white-supremacist propaganda that paints immigrants and welfare
>> recipients as subhuman threats. Undocumented immigrants can't even get
>> federal welfare benefits. As I have noted, you right wingers, and
>> especially you white supremacists, are all about tribalism and
>> scapegoating -- and you (you personally) prove it time and time again.
> 
> You sound like an NPR brainwashed liberal.
> While your points might have been somewhat true 20 years ago that is
> no longer the case.
> While I don't support calling democrats demonrats labeling illegal
> migrants as invaders is accurate.
> What term would you use?

Hi ALB.

Before you go too much further and waste your time doing so, You may want 
to review the links I've shared below. Brock McNuggets is Snit. You are 
wasting your time. Completely wasting your time. The guy lives to troll 
and any response to his trolling generates more unwanted replies from him. 
He will never concede, never admit fault. Never admit he's wrong.


> So stop quoting your progressive cherry picked stats and start waking
> up because people who work hard to earn money are fed up with those on
> the take scamming the system.
> 
> Public assistance is there as a safety net for people who,by no fault
> of their own have fallen on hard times.
> It's not designed to support 3 generations of able bodied citizens on
> welfare.

I do agree completely, FWIW.

Anyhow, the links I alluded to:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>


He's really not here to have reasonable adult conversation with anyone. 



-- 
Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government

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#88

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me: 

> On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a
>> woman going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000
>> per month she and her family supposedly get from the government,
>> juxtaposed against her being called out by someone else for hair
>> extensions, expensive trips to the nail salon, and tattoos. In short,
>> she wastes money on unnecessary things and then demands money from
>> the government to support herself. 
>>
>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to
>> fund her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her
>> household. 
>>
>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people.
>> There's no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and
>> just be thankful for what they've gotten.
>>
>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't
>> get SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>>
>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I
>> get that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary
>> setbacks, too many people are still making a lifestyle based on
>> government largesse. 
>>
>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>>
>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist
>> off of taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be
>> tolerated. They should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they
>> are. 
>>
>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but
>> it at least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept
>> quiet about it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it,
>> which often led them to take steps to get off of it and to pay their
>> own way. Others were too damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to
>> be made by implementing work requirements.
>>
>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off
>> easy. 
>>
>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate,
>> some literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their
>> due. That hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be
>> stigmatized. They need to be made to feel bad about the position they
>> have put themselves in.
>>
>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>>
>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own
>> decisions who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You
>> majored in Lesbian Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a
>> job? No wonder you can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to
>> be trusted with your own oxygen supply, much less anything that
>> requires the least bit of responsibility beyond putting on clothes to
>> cover your reproductive parts. 
>>
>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**?
>> Maybe what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable
>> piece of filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that
>> you're a horrible human being.
>>
>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>>
>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need
>> to stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists,
>> deadbeats, and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to
>> turn oxygen into carbon dioxide.
>>
>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different,
>> but there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't
>> work versus someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be
>> available to fund their eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line
>> need to be the subject of scorn, if for no other reason than to make
>> it loudly apparent that it's unacceptable to do that when you can
>> work. 
>>
>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their
>> own, without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will
>> make America great again.
>>
>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120
> 
> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic
> backgrounds. These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do
> if you know how, is worn as a badge of honor.
> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and
> grifters who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government
> checks and work tax free off the books.
> 
> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end
> cars, extravegant vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
> Why?
> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do
> anything but the most basic checks for eligibility.



   Indeed, where is the accoutability 
when government throws out BILLIONS in
"loans" and hides who got them and if
they were ever repaid?






Keeping $500 Billion in Bailout Funds Secret
June 11 2020

The Trump administration intends to keep 
secret the names of the businesses that 
have received more than $500 billion in 
COVID-19 bailout funds through the 
Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), 
claiming the information is "confidential"
https://www.citizen.org/news/keeping-500-billion-in-bailout-funds-secret/

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#89

On Nov 10, 2025 at 7:54:41 PM MST, "Mitchell Holman" wrote
<XnsB393D2A682B91629555@185.151.15.160>:

> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> news:10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me:
> 
>> On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a
>>> woman going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000
>>> per month she and her family supposedly get from the government,
>>> juxtaposed against her being called out by someone else for hair
>>> extensions, expensive trips to the nail salon, and tattoos. In short,
>>> she wastes money on unnecessary things and then demands money from
>>> the government to support herself.
>>> 
>>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to
>>> fund her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her
>>> household.
>>> 
>>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people.
>>> There's no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and
>>> just be thankful for what they've gotten.
>>> 
>>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't
>>> get SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>>> 
>>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I
>>> get that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary
>>> setbacks, too many people are still making a lifestyle based on
>>> government largesse.
>>> 
>>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>>> 
>>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist
>>> off of taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be
>>> tolerated. They should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they
>>> are.
>>> 
>>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but
>>> it at least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept
>>> quiet about it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it,
>>> which often led them to take steps to get off of it and to pay their
>>> own way. Others were too damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to
>>> be made by implementing work requirements.
>>> 
>>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off
>>> easy.
>>> 
>>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate,
>>> some literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their
>>> due. That hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be
>>> stigmatized. They need to be made to feel bad about the position they
>>> have put themselves in.
>>> 
>>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>>> 
>>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own
>>> decisions who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You
>>> majored in Lesbian Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a
>>> job? No wonder you can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to
>>> be trusted with your own oxygen supply, much less anything that
>>> requires the least bit of responsibility beyond putting on clothes to
>>> cover your reproductive parts.
>>> 
>>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**?
>>> Maybe what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable
>>> piece of filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that
>>> you're a horrible human being.
>>> 
>>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>>> 
>>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need
>>> to stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists,
>>> deadbeats, and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to
>>> turn oxygen into carbon dioxide.
>>> 
>>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different,
>>> but there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't
>>> work versus someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be
>>> available to fund their eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line
>>> need to be the subject of scorn, if for no other reason than to make
>>> it loudly apparent that it's unacceptable to do that when you can
>>> work.
>>> 
>>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their
>>> own, without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will
>>> make America great again.
>>> 
>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120
>> 
>> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic
>> backgrounds. These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do
>> if you know how, is worn as a badge of honor.
>> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and
>> grifters who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government
>> checks and work tax free off the books.
>> 
>> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end
>> cars, extravegant vacations are indeed scamming  the system.
>> Why?
>> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do
>> anything but the most basic checks for eligibility.
> 
> 
> 
>    Indeed, where is the accoutability
> when government throws out BILLIONS in
> "loans" and hides who got them and if
> they were ever repaid?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Keeping $500 Billion in Bailout Funds Secret
> June 11 2020
> 
> The Trump administration intends to keep
> secret the names of the businesses that
> have received more than $500 billion in
> COVID-19 bailout funds through the
> Paycheck Protection Program (PPP),
> claiming the information is "confidential"
> https://www.citizen.org/news/keeping-500-billion-in-bailout-funds-secret/

But a single parent getting $600 in food stamps is the issue, right?

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#90 — [Spam] Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People Again

On 10 Nov 2025, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> posted some
news:10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me: 

> On 2025-11-10, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a
>> woman going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000
>> per month she and her family supposedly get from the government,
>> juxtaposed against her being called out by someone else for hair
>> extensions, expensive trips to the nail salon, and tattoos. In short,
>> she wastes money on unnecessary things and then demands money from
>> the government to support herself. 
>>
>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to
>> fund her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her
>> household. 
>>
>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people.
>> There's no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and
>> just be thankful for what they've gotten.
>>
>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't
>> get SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.
>>
>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I
>> get that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary
>> setbacks, too many people are still making a lifestyle based on
>> government largesse. 
>>
>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be
>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.
>>
>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist
>> off of taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be
>> tolerated. They should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they
>> are. 
>>
>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but
>> it at least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept
>> quiet about it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it,
>> which often led them to take steps to get off of it and to pay their
>> own way. Others were too damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to
>> be made by implementing work requirements.
>>
>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off
>> easy. 
>>
>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate,
>> some literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their
>> due. That hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be
>> stigmatized. They need to be made to feel bad about the position they
>> have put themselves in.
>>
>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.
>>
>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own
>> decisions who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You
>> majored in Lesbian Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a
>> job? No wonder you can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to
>> be trusted with your own oxygen supply, much less anything that
>> requires the least bit of responsibility beyond putting on clothes to
>> cover your reproductive parts. 
>>
>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**?
>> Maybe what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable
>> piece of filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that
>> you're a horrible human being.
>>
>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.
>>
>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need
>> to stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists,
>> deadbeats, and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to
>> turn oxygen into carbon dioxide.
>>
>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different,
>> but there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't
>> work versus someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be
>> available to fund their eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line
>> need to be the subject of scorn, if for no other reason than to make
>> it loudly apparent that it's unacceptable to do that when you can
>> work. 
>>
>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their
>> own, without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will
>> make America great again.
>>
>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-
>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120
> 
> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic
> backgrounds. These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do
> if you know how, is worn as a badge of honor.
> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and
> grifters who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government
> checks and work tax free off the books.
> 
> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end
> cars, extravegant vacations are indeed scamming  the system.

Go look at the church free food lines, note what kind of cars are in the 
lines and what color the drivers are.  

> Why?
> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do
> anything but the most basic checks for eligibility.

Nobody checks unless they want to make an example of someone.

> That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of
> fraud and waste in the government assistance programs is staggering.
> And these are funds that could be allocated to people who really need
> some assistance for whatever reason. 
> 
> Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist
> and so forth. It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.

Whenever a Democrat does that they should get all their teeth kicked out.

> The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.
> The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for
> this routine anymore and hence the government shutdown where the
> demonrats attempted to pull the bigot, republicans want you to starve 
> game once again but failed to mention one "minor fact" which is NOBODY
> wants people to starve however the republicans AND the voters do not
> want to fund welfare, healthcare and so forth for illegal migrants. 
> They kept leaving that part out but the voters quickly caught on to
> the ruse. And as for medical care, if an illegal is in dire need of
> medical care, patch him or her up and once well enough to travel
> deport them back to their home country. 
> 
> The system is not designed to accomodate the massive number of
> invaders that Biden allowed into the country. You might want to ask UK
> and Germany about that one. It's not sustainable.

Put a bounty on them, $50 a head.

> Laws are in place for a reason. A country without laws that are
> enforced is no longer a country but simply a wasteland run by anarchy.
> If the demonrat leftists don't like the laws, vote out the
> representatives who support them. 

Democrats pass laws but refuse to enforce them.

Unless it's for a fag or one of their tranny chopatitty victims.

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