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Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

Started by"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
First post2019-01-04 09:03 -0800
Last post2019-01-09 05:49 +0000
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  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-04 09:03 -0800
    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-04 12:04 -0800
    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 06:07 +0000
      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-04 22:41 -0800
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 06:52 +0000
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-04 23:03 -0800
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 07:08 +0000
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-04 23:10 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 07:16 +0000
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-04 23:43 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-05 03:41 -0500
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-07 16:34 -0700
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-07 23:01 -0700
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 01:49 -0700
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:59 +0000
                            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 12:04 -0700
                              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 11:12 -0800
                                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 12:38 -0700
                                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 12:57 -0700
                                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 13:36 -0700
                                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner šŸ¶ē¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-08 14:42 -0600
                                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:47 -0700
                                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner šŸ¶ē¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-08 14:52 -0600
                                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 11:58 -0800
                                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 13:14 -0700
                                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:17 -0700
                                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 14:05 -0700
                                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 14:30 -0700
                                            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 16:33 -0700
                                              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 00:05 +0000
                                                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 17:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 17:42 -0700
                                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:44 -0500
                                        Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com> - 2019-01-09 09:47 -0800
                                          Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-10 00:20 -0500
                                            Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands BeamMeUpScotty <Not-Sure@idiocracy.gov> - 2019-01-10 06:53 -0500
                                              Re: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-11 00:44 -0500
                                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:43 -0500
                              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 14:11 -0700
                                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 14:29 -0700
                                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 16:37 -0700
                                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 00:05 +0000
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-08 12:08 -0800
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-05 03:39 -0500
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-07 16:35 -0700
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-05 02:26 -0500
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 03:17 -0700
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 03:19 -0700
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:19 -0500
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 01:50 -0700
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:59 +0000
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 12:00 -0700
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 12:02 -0700
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 13:16 -0700
                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-08 14:00 -0700
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:02 -0700
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 14:22 -0700
                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 13:24 -0800
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-08 11:11 -0800
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:40 -0500
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 06:39 +0000
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 07:08 -0800
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 18:03 +0000
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 10:33 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 18:45 +0000
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 10:54 -0800
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:16 +0000
                      No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 12:40 -0700
                        Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:56 +0000
                          Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 12:09 -0800
                          Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 13:27 -0700
                            Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 14:02 -0700
                          Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 13:50 -0800
                            Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:21 -0500
                              Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                                Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-08 04:24 -0800
                                  Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-09 00:54 -0500
                                    Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 06:39 +0000
                                      Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-09 05:46 -0800
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 11:06 -0800
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:16 +0000
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 11:35 -0800
                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:25 -0500
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-08 04:22 -0800
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:52 +0000
                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 13:18 -0800
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 22:15 +0000
                            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 14:16 -0800
                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2019-01-05 13:41 -0800
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:23 -0500
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 12:10 -0700
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:52 +0000
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 13:21 -0700
                        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 13:32 -0700
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 13:49 -0700
                            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 14:04 -0700
                              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 13:37 -0800
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 12:55 -0800
                          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 15:41 -0700
                            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 14:47 -0800
                      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 12:24 -0800
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 10:46 -0800
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:16 +0000
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 12:21 -0800
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 13:57 -0700
                  Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2019-01-05 18:36 -0800
                    Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-05 19:49 -0700
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-05 13:36 -0800
      Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2019-01-05 03:15 -0700
        Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-07 22:19 -0500
          Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
            Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> - 2019-01-07 23:30 -0800
              Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2019-01-08 03:23 -0500
                Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-01-09 05:49 +0000

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#246661

FromRudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con>
Date2019-01-08 13:24 -0800
Message-ID<Zx8ZD.1644$f65.325@fx36.iad>
In reply to#246606
On 1/8/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 1/8/19 12:00 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 1/8/2019 6:59 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/7/2019 11:18 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> Scout wrote:
>>>>>> "Just Wondering" <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/4/2019 11:52 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really the concept is simple: we can and should do risk
>>>>>>>> / benefit analysis in deciding what laws and regulations
>>>>>>>> to have in place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So go out and do your precious analysis already.
>>>>>>> Nobody's stopping you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except that he refuses to pay for it with his own money.......
>>>>>
>>>>> You have no clue how the government is funded. Got it.
>>>>
>>>> How much of your money has been spent on the research
>>>> you claim to want done?
>>>
>>> More than you have spent on Trump’s wall.
>>
>> I pay income taxes that help fund federal projects.Ā  The government
>> is currently installing sections of Trump’s 30-foot-high wall. 
>> https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/us-mexico-border-wall-being-built-slowly/#slide-1 
>>
>> That means I have spent something on Trump's wall.
> 
> Ah, so by spending you include taxes. Then I have spent money and support 
> spending more money on health and safety research on guns.

You have spent no money on that.

-- 
Snot's '.sig' is wrong, sophomoric and indicative of
his bloated ego.  Snot fancies himself the Great
Tribune of Usenet, who is going to tell all the
rest of us What It All Means.

Well...no.  Just no.

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#246573

FromRudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con>
Date2019-01-08 11:11 -0800
Message-ID<HB6ZD.854$xN2.496@fx17.iad>
In reply to#246481
On 1/8/2019 5:59 AM, Snit wrote:
> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>> On 1/7/2019 11:18 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> Scout <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Just Wondering" <JW@me.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Yw%XD.465375$GZ9.22499@fx45.iad...
>>>>> On 1/4/2019 11:52 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really the concept is simple: we can and should do risk
>>>>>> / benefit analysis in deciding what laws and regulations
>>>>>> to have in place.
>>>>>
>>>>> So go out and do your precious analysis already.
>>>>> Nobody's stopping you.
>>>>
>>>> Except that he refuses to pay for it with his own money.......
>>>
>>> You have no clue how the government is funded. Got it.
>>
>> How much of your money has been spent on the research you claim
>> to want done?
>>
> 
> More than you have spent on Trump’s wall.

You haven't spent any money on research into gun violence.  Stop lying.

-- 
Snot's '.sig' is wrong, sophomoric and indicative of
his bloated ego.  Snot fancies himself the Great
Tribune of Usenet, who is going to tell all the
rest of us What It All Means.

Well...no.  Just no.

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#246804

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2019-01-09 00:40 -0500
Message-ID<q142n6$dha$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#246459

"Just Wondering" <JW@me.com> wrote in message 
news:kvZYD.5877$wz4.2259@fx10.iad...
> On 1/7/2019 11:18 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Scout <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Just Wondering" <JW@me.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Yw%XD.465375$GZ9.22499@fx45.iad...
>>>> On 1/4/2019 11:52 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Really the concept is simple: we can and should do risk
>>>>> / benefit analysis in deciding what laws and regulations
>>>>> to have in place.
>>>>
>>>> So go out and do your precious analysis already.
>>>> Nobody's stopping you.
>>>
>>> Except that he refuses to pay for it with his own money.......
>>
>> You have no clue how the government is funded. Got it.
>
> How much of your money has been spent on the research you claim
> to want done?

Further how much of other people's money would he want spent on such 
research? 

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#246812

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-09 06:39 +0000
Message-ID<g9lj9hF87ciU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#246804
Scout <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> "Just Wondering" <JW@me.com> wrote in message 
> news:kvZYD.5877$wz4.2259@fx10.iad...
>> On 1/7/2019 11:18 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> Scout <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Just Wondering" <JW@me.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Yw%XD.465375$GZ9.22499@fx45.iad...
>>>>> On 1/4/2019 11:52 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Really the concept is simple: we can and should do risk
>>>>>> / benefit analysis in deciding what laws and regulations
>>>>>> to have in place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So go out and do your precious analysis already.
>>>>> Nobody's stopping you.
>>>> 
>>>> Except that he refuses to pay for it with his own money.......
>>> 
>>> You have no clue how the government is funded. Got it.
>> 
>> How much of your money has been spent on the research you claim
>> to want done?
> 
> Further how much of other people's money would he want spent on such 
> research? 
> 
> 

How much do you want spent on a symbolic wall?

I want research into health and safety issues to be ongoing and
ever-improving, at least until the health issue is reduced heavily. So you
want less money spent on such research — GOOD, so do I. Let’s work together
so that the US is not alone as an industrialized nation with a serious gun
issue. Let us work together so we do not have another generation seeing
school shootings as we see 9/11. 

And let’s research the hell out of the problem so we can use evidence-based
methods to get there and not your bias or mine.

Fair enough... or do you want to just go with your bias and avoid evidence
for the rest of your life?

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#245578

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2019-01-05 07:08 -0800
Message-ID<q0qk6e$sou$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#245482
In news:g9b2i1Ft3krU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>> In news:g9avtrFsig2U14@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> In news:g985omF9mdrU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> On 1/3/19 9:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:

>>>>>> The topic is research, although WHAT research remaans undefined. The
>>>>>> Constitution does not make that research the federal government's job.

>>>>> The research has been defined: health and safety research -- as we do
>>>>> with food and cars and consumer products and construction and much more.

>>>>> Again, you play foolish to avoid the fact YOU think the research will
>>>>> find things that go against your bias. THAT is the reason you do not
>>>>> want the CDC to do the research it should.

>>>> And THERE IT IS.

>>> IT being truth. Sure.

>> IT being bias, plainly.

> Please explain what bias you see in the concept of have risk / benefit
> analyses for products shown or believed to be tied to harm. Be specific.

The bias is your demands we resume funding the one federal agency which was busted for misusing 
federal funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the actions which caused its 
previous disgrace. 

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#245601

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-05 18:03 +0000
Message-ID<g9c9rlF6ugvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#245578
max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> In news:g9b2i1Ft3krU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> In news:g9avtrFsig2U14@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> In news:g985omF9mdrU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>> On 1/3/19 9:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> The topic is research, although WHAT research remaans undefined. The
>>>>>>> Constitution does not make that research the federal government's job.
> 
>>>>>> The research has been defined: health and safety research -- as we do
>>>>>> with food and cars and consumer products and construction and much more.
> 
>>>>>> Again, you play foolish to avoid the fact YOU think the research will
>>>>>> find things that go against your bias. THAT is the reason you do not
>>>>>> want the CDC to do the research it should.
> 
>>>>> And THERE IT IS.
> 
>>>> IT being truth. Sure.
> 
>>> IT being bias, plainly.
> 
>> Please explain what bias you see in the concept of have risk / benefit
>> analyses for products shown or believed to be tied to harm. Be specific.
> 
> The bias is your demands we resume funding the one federal agency which
> was busted for misusing 
> federal funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the
> actions which caused its 
> previous disgrace. 
> 
> 
> 
What evidence do you think they will find that goes against your wishes? 


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#245614

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2019-01-05 10:33 -0800
Message-ID<q0qtcq$ps5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#245601
In news:g9c9rlF6ugvU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>> In news:g9b2i1Ft3krU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> In news:g9avtrFsig2U14@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In news:g985omF9mdrU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>> On 1/3/19 9:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:

>>>>>>>> The topic is research, although WHAT research remaans undefined. The
>>>>>>>> Constitution does not make that research the federal government's job.

>>>>>>> The research has been defined: health and safety research -- as we do
>>>>>>> with food and cars and consumer products and construction and much more.

>>>>>>> Again, you play foolish to avoid the fact YOU think the research will
>>>>>>> find things that go against your bias. THAT is the reason you do not
>>>>>>> want the CDC to do the research it should.

>>>>>> And THERE IT IS.

>>>>> IT being truth. Sure.

>>>> IT being bias, plainly.

>>> Please explain what bias you see in the concept of have risk / benefit
>>> analyses for products shown or believed to be tied to harm. Be specific.

>> The bias is your demands we resume funding the one federal agency which was busted for misusing
>> federal funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the actions which caused its
>> previous disgrace.

> What evidence do you think they will find that goes against your wishes?

Why do you demand we resume funding the one federal agency which was busted for misusing federal
funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the actions which caused its previous
disgrace? 

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#245617

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-05 18:45 +0000
Message-ID<g9ccanF7fmcU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#245614
max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> In news:g9c9rlF6ugvU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> In news:g9b2i1Ft3krU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> In news:g9avtrFsig2U14@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:g985omF9mdrU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>> On 1/3/19 9:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> The topic is research, although WHAT research remaans undefined. The
>>>>>>>>> Constitution does not make that research the federal government's job.
> 
>>>>>>>> The research has been defined: health and safety research -- as we do
>>>>>>>> with food and cars and consumer products and construction and much more.
> 
>>>>>>>> Again, you play foolish to avoid the fact YOU think the research will
>>>>>>>> find things that go against your bias. THAT is the reason you do not
>>>>>>>> want the CDC to do the research it should.
> 
>>>>>>> And THERE IT IS.
> 
>>>>>> IT being truth. Sure.
> 
>>>>> IT being bias, plainly.
> 
>>>> Please explain what bias you see in the concept of have risk / benefit
>>>> analyses for products shown or believed to be tied to harm. Be specific.
> 
>>> The bias is your demands we resume funding the one federal agency which
>>> was busted for misusing
>>> federal funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the
>>> actions which caused its
>>> previous disgrace.
> 
>> What evidence do you think they will find that goes against your wishes?
> 
> Why do you demand we resume funding the one federal agency which was
> busted for misusing federal
> funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the actions
> which caused its previous
> disgrace? 
> 
> 
> 

If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
government to do its job. 

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#245629

FromRudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con>
Date2019-01-05 10:54 -0800
Message-ID<D37YD.307970$nY5.274885@fx15.iad>
In reply to#245617
On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>> In news:g9c9rlF6ugvU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>
>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> In news:g9b2i1Ft3krU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In news:g9avtrFsig2U14@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In news:g985omF9mdrU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/19 9:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> The topic is research, although WHAT research remaans undefined. The
>>>>>>>>>> Constitution does not make that research the federal government's job.
>>
>>>>>>>>> The research has been defined: health and safety research -- as we do
>>>>>>>>> with food and cars and consumer products and construction and much more.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Again, you play foolish to avoid the fact YOU think the research will
>>>>>>>>> find things that go against your bias. THAT is the reason you do not
>>>>>>>>> want the CDC to do the research it should.
>>
>>>>>>>> And THERE IT IS.
>>
>>>>>>> IT being truth. Sure.
>>
>>>>>> IT being bias, plainly.
>>
>>>>> Please explain what bias you see in the concept of have risk / benefit
>>>>> analyses for products shown or believed to be tied to harm. Be specific.
>>
>>>> The bias is your demands we resume funding the one federal agency which
>>>> was busted for misusing
>>>> federal funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the
>>>> actions which caused its
>>>> previous disgrace.
>>
>>> What evidence do you think they will find that goes against your wishes?
>>
>> Why do you demand we resume funding the one federal agency which was
>> busted for misusing federal
>> funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the actions
>> which caused its previous
>> disgrace?
>>
>>
>>
> 
> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
> government to do its job.

Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this research?

https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html

Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun violence.

-- 
Snot's '.sig' is wrong, sophomoric and indicative of
his bloated ego.  Snot fancies himself the Great
Tribune of Usenet, who is going to tell all the
rest of us What It All Means.

Well...no.  Just no.

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#245638

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-05 19:16 +0000
Message-ID<g9ce47F7rs7U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#245629
Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> In news:g9c9rlF6ugvU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> 
>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> In news:g9b2i1Ft3krU1@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:g9avtrFsig2U14@mid.individual.net, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In news:g985omF9mdrU1@mid.individual.net, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/19 9:24
>>>>>>>>> PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The topic is research, although WHAT research remaans undefined. The
>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution does not make that research the federal government's job.
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The research has been defined: health and safety research -- as we do
>>>>>>>>>> with food and cars and consumer products and construction and much more.
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Again, you play foolish to avoid the fact YOU think the research will
>>>>>>>>>> find things that go against your bias. THAT is the reason you do not
>>>>>>>>>> want the CDC to do the research it should.
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> And THERE IT IS.
>>> 
>>>>>>>> IT being truth. Sure.
>>> 
>>>>>>> IT being bias, plainly.
>>> 
>>>>>> Please explain what bias you see in the concept of have risk / benefit
>>>>>> analyses for products shown or believed to be tied to harm. Be specific.
>>> 
>>>>> The bias is your demands we resume funding the one federal agency which
>>>>> was busted for misusing
>>>>> federal funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the
>>>>> actions which caused its
>>>>> previous disgrace.
>>> 
>>>> What evidence do you think they will find that goes against your wishes?
>>> 
>>> Why do you demand we resume funding the one federal agency which was
>>> busted for misusing federal
>>> funds to agitate for more gun control laws so it can resume the actions
>>> which caused its previous
>>> disgrace?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>> government to do its job.
> 
> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this research?
> 
> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
> 
> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun violence.
> 

We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
use. 

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#245659 — No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromJust Wondering <JW@me.com>
Date2019-01-05 12:40 -0700
SubjectNo we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<LK7YD.110622$hN7.88245@fx23.iad>
In reply to#245638
On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>> government to do its job.
>>
>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this research?
>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun violence.
> 
> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
> use.

I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.

Please provide evidence to support your claim that
"We have health and safety research on pretty much
everything we buy and use."

By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
done on firearm safety.

Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.

We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

We know that you're a wizened little troll.

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#245665 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-05 19:56 +0000
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<g9cgfbF8cbnU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#245659
Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>> government to do its job.
>>> 
>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this research?
>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun violence.
>> 
>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>> use.
> 
> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
> 
> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
> everything we buy and use."
> 
> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
> done on firearm safety.
> 
> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
> 
> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
> 
> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
> 

What product do you use that is not subject to health and safety laws and
regulations? 

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#245668 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromRudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con>
Date2019-01-05 12:09 -0800
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<W98YD.83727$a66.35779@fx27.iad>
In reply to#245665
On 1/5/2019 11:56 AM, Snit wrote:
> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>>
>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this research?
>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun violence.
>>>
>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>>> use.
>>
>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>>
>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>> everything we buy and use."
>>
>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>> done on firearm safety.
>>
>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>>
>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>
>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
>>

==================================================
==================================================
=============  WARNING!  WARNING!  ===============
==========   GOAL POST MOVES AHEAD!   ============
=================   WARNING!  ====================
==================================================
==================================================

> 
> What product do you use that is not subject to health and safety laws and
> regulations?

No one is trying to "regulate" toothpaste right out of existence the way 
you are trying to do with guns.

-- 
Snot's '.sig' is wrong, sophomoric and indicative of
his bloated ego.  Snot fancies himself the Great
Tribune of Usenet, who is going to tell all the
rest of us What It All Means.

Well...no.  Just no.

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#245673 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromJust Wondering <JW@me.com>
Date2019-01-05 13:27 -0700
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<Oq8YD.169727$R85.167943@fx03.iad>
In reply to#245665
On 1/5/2019 12:56 PM, Snit wrote:
> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>>
>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this research?
>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun violence.
>>>
>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>>> use.
>>
>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>>
>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>> everything we buy and use."
>>
>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>> done on firearm safety.
>>
>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>>
>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>
>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
> 
> What product do you use that is not subject to health
> and safety laws and regulations?

Don't try to avoid the question by changing the subject.
You claim "We have health and safety RESEARCH on pretty
much everything we buy and use."  Your challenge is to
provide evidence to support that claim.  Your refusal
to provide any evidence suggests you don't because you can't.

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#245684 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-05 14:02 -0700
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<g9ckb3F96s2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#245673
On 1/5/19 1:27 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 1/5/2019 12:56 PM, Snit wrote:
>> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this 
>>>>> research?
>>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun 
>>>>> violence.
>>>>
>>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>>>> use.
>>>
>>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>>>
>>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>>> everything we buy and use."
>>>
>>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>>> done on firearm safety.
>>>
>>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>>> will be hurt or killed.Ā  We know that if a bad guy wants
>>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>>>
>>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>>
>>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
>>
>> What product do you use that is not subject to health
>> and safety laws and regulations?
> 
> Don't try to avoid the question by changing the subject.
> You claim "We have health and safety RESEARCH on pretty
> much everything we buy and use."Ā  Your challenge is to
> provide evidence to support that claim.Ā  Your refusal
> to provide any evidence suggests you don't because you can't.

The fact you cannot think of a single product you use which is not 
subject to health and safety laws and regulations backs my point quite 
well that it applies to pretty much every item we use. It does to the 
computer I am typing on, the desk my computer sits on, the paint on the 
walls in my house, the way those walls are made, the chair I am sitting 
on, the clothing I am wearing, the materials my wife and daughter are 
using to make bombs as I type this, the weights sitting on my desk which 
I sometimes use, the pencils and pens on my desk, the light in the room, 
the phone in my pocket... etc.

Really very hard to think of anything it does not apply to. So hard you 
failed.

Does not mean you will always fail. I would have to check to see if this 
applies to, say, pebbles you might have in your yard -- maybe not 
(though there are such laws and policies on sand and gravel and the like 
as you work with them in greater quantities).

But I will give you another chance: if you think I am wrong then name 
the products you use which are NOT subject to health and safety laws. 
Note I am NOT excluding guns in this.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#245708 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2019-01-05 13:50 -0800
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<5g923elr88rsp2aspau8pjsh628nuulm0d@4ax.com>
In reply to#245665
On 5 Jan 2019 19:56:27 GMT, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>> 
>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this research?
>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun violence.
>>> 
>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>>> use.
>> 
>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>> 
>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>> everything we buy and use."
>> 
>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>> done on firearm safety.
>> 
>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>> 
>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>> 
>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
>> 
>
>What product do you use that is not subject to health and safety laws and
>regulations? 

Pencils.

Looking forward to your running away instead of showing us the health
and safety laws and regulations on pencils.

Viggo: It's not what you did, son, that angers me so. It's who you did
it to.
Iosef: Who? That fucking nobody?
Viggo: That "fuckin' nobody"... is John Wick. He once was an associate
of ours. They call him "Baba Yaga."
Iosef: The Boogeyman?
Viggo: Well John wasn't exactly the Boogeyman. He was the one you sent
to kill the fucking Boogeyman.
Iosef: Oh.
Viggo: John is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something you
know very little about. I once saw him kill three men in a bar... with
a pencil, with a fucking pencil. 

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#246436 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2019-01-07 22:21 -0500
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<q11cff$2ff$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#245708

"Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote in message 
news:5g923elr88rsp2aspau8pjsh628nuulm0d@4ax.com...
> On 5 Jan 2019 19:56:27 GMT, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>>Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this 
>>>>> research?
>>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun 
>>>>> violence.
>>>>
>>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>>>> use.
>>>
>>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>>>
>>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>>> everything we buy and use."
>>>
>>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>>> done on firearm safety.
>>>
>>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>>> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
>>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>>>
>>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>>
>>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
>>>
>>
>>What product do you use that is not subject to health and safety laws and
>>regulations?
>
> Pencils.
>
> Looking forward to your running away instead of showing us the health
> and safety laws and regulations on pencils.

Imagine the outcry from 1st Amendment supporters if they attempted to ban 
pencils.
 

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#246446 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2019-01-08 06:18 +0000
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<g9itmhFknokU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#246436
Scout <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote in message 
> news:5g923elr88rsp2aspau8pjsh628nuulm0d@4ax.com...
>> On 5 Jan 2019 19:56:27 GMT, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this 
>>>>>> research?
>>>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun 
>>>>>> violence.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>>>>> use.
>>>> 
>>>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>>>> 
>>>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>>>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>>>> everything we buy and use."
>>>> 
>>>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>>>> done on firearm safety.
>>>> 
>>>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>>>> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
>>>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>>>> 
>>>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>>>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>>> 
>>>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> What product do you use that is not subject to health and safety laws and
>>> regulations?
>> 
>> Pencils.
>> 
>> Looking forward to your running away instead of showing us the health
>> and safety laws and regulations on pencils.
> 
> Imagine the outcry from 1st Amendment supporters if they attempted to ban 
> pencils.
> 
> 
> 

What is the risk? What is the benefit? What is the balance?

Your naive rebuttal merely shows how far over your head the simple facts
go. 

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#246465 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2019-01-08 04:24 -0800
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<bh593epoc5l2k2rtfp6ig76gvfd7v272tn@4ax.com>
In reply to#246446
On 8 Jan 2019 06:18:57 GMT, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>Scout <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote in message 
>> news:5g923elr88rsp2aspau8pjsh628nuulm0d@4ax.com...
>>> On 5 Jan 2019 19:56:27 GMT, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this 
>>>>>>> research?
>>>>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun 
>>>>>>> violence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy and
>>>>>> use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>>>>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>>>>> everything we buy and use."
>>>>> 
>>>>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>>>>> done on firearm safety.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>>>>> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
>>>>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>>>>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What product do you use that is not subject to health and safety laws and
>>>> regulations?
>>> 
>>> Pencils.
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to your running away instead of showing us the health
>>> and safety laws and regulations on pencils.
>> 
>> Imagine the outcry from 1st Amendment supporters if they attempted to ban 
>> pencils.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>What is the risk? What is the benefit? What is the balance?
>
>Your naive rebuttal merely shows how far over your head the simple facts
>go. 

TRANSLATION: "I posted a bunch of shit on pencils and tried to pass it
off as "health and safety regulations" but that failed-- miserably, I
might add. So now I will try to change the subject with some insults."

[chuckle]

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#246807 — Re: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2019-01-09 00:54 -0500
SubjectRe: No we don't was Re: Fact: Gun Ownership Is All That Stands
Message-ID<q142n8$dha$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#246465

"Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote in message 
news:bh593epoc5l2k2rtfp6ig76gvfd7v272tn@4ax.com...
> On 8 Jan 2019 06:18:57 GMT, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>>Scout <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Klaus  Schadenfreude" <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote in message
>>> news:5g923elr88rsp2aspau8pjsh628nuulm0d@4ax.com...
>>>> On 5 Jan 2019 19:56:27 GMT, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just Wondering <JW@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/5/2019 12:16 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> Rudy Canoza <cap@philhendrie.con> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/5/2019 10:45 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we need better oversight I have no issue with that. I want the
>>>>>>>>> government to do its job.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who says it's the job of the federal government to conduct this
>>>>>>>> research?
>>>>>>>> https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html
>>>>>>>> Please find the enumerated power to conduct research into gun
>>>>>>>> violence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have health and safety research on pretty much everything we buy 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note you have no answer to Rudy's question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide evidence to support your claim that
>>>>>> "We have health and safety research on pretty much
>>>>>> everything we buy and use."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, lots and lots of research has already been
>>>>>> done on firearm safety.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even without research, we know that if you are shot, you
>>>>>> will be hurt or killed.  We know that if a bad guy wants
>>>>>> to hurt people, laws against hurting people won't stop him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We know that the Constitution says the right of the people
>>>>>> to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We know that you're a wizened little troll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What product do you use that is not subject to health and safety laws 
>>>>> and
>>>>> regulations?
>>>>
>>>> Pencils.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to your running away instead of showing us the health
>>>> and safety laws and regulations on pencils.
>>>
>>> Imagine the outcry from 1st Amendment supporters if they attempted to 
>>> ban
>>> pencils.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What is the risk? What is the benefit? What is the balance?

We accept your admission that your asserted research doesn't exist as you 
claimed it did.

>>Your naive rebuttal merely shows how far over your head the simple facts
>>go.
>
> TRANSLATION: "I posted a bunch of shit on pencils and tried to pass it
> off as "health and safety regulations" but that failed-- miserably, I
> might add. So now I will try to change the subject with some insults."
>
> [chuckle]
> 

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