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Re: Slaughtering concert goers.

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First post2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
Last post2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
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  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 22:35 +0000
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 17:16 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:47 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 21:10 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 01:39 +0000
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:52 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 22:04 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:05 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:30 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:39 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:12 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 21:34 -0600
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 20:47 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 22:01 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:04 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:28 +0000
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:27 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:38 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:42 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:53 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:57 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:28 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:37 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:39 -0600
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 21:33 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:19 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:41 +0000
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:11 -0700
                  The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:47 -0600
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 05:40 +0000
                              Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                                Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                                  Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                    Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                      Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                                        Re: Permission to breath ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:03 -0600
                                    Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                                      Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                                        Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                                Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                  Re: Permission to breath ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 21:36 -0600
                                  Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-07 05:45 -0600
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                                            "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                                        Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-02 01:20 -0400
              Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 19:05 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:34 -0600
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-03 14:02 -0600
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:40 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 09:35 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-03 15:21 -0600
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-03 18:51 -0600
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-03 20:11 -0500
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:37 -0600
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:02 -0600
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0600
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000

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#170265

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
Message-ID<fnemk6Fsn82U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170264
On 6/1/18 9:54 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
> 
>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>> news:fnecu9Fr49cU3@mid.individual.net...
> 
>>
>>> The second amendment specifically mentions the militia and NO other
>>> context.
>>
>> Bullshit. It mentions the context of the right of the people.
>>
>> Which right, BTW, is not tied to ANY militia context.
>>
> 
> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
> State, the right of the *PEOPLE* to *KEEP* and *BEAR* Arms, shall not be
> infringed.  [emph. added]
> 
> *PEOPLE*
> 
> Now get back in your clown car, Snit.
> 
Militia.

Bear arms.

Those words and terms have meaning.

-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#170269

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
Message-ID<fnemv5FsksjU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170265
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:00:54 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 6/1/18 9:54 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
>> 
>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fnecu9Fr49cU3@mid.individual.net...
>> 
>> 
>>>> The second amendment specifically mentions the militia and NO other
>>>> context.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. It mentions the context of the right of the people.
>>>
>>> Which right, BTW, is not tied to ANY militia context.
>>>
>>>
>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>> State, the right of the *PEOPLE* to *KEEP* and *BEAR* Arms, shall not
>> be infringed.  [emph. added]
>> 
>> *PEOPLE*
>> 
>> Now get back in your clown car, Snit.
>> 
> Militia.
> 
> Bear arms.
> 
> Those words and terms have meaning.

The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations, not 
limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.

But you already knew that, didn't you?  That's what I like about you:  
your attention to detail.

-- 
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#170270

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
Message-ID<fnen49Fsn82U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170269
On 6/1/18 10:06 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:00:54 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 6/1/18 9:54 PM, vallor wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fnecu9Fr49cU3@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> The second amendment specifically mentions the militia and NO other
>>>>> context.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit. It mentions the context of the right of the people.
>>>>
>>>> Which right, BTW, is not tied to ANY militia context.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>>> State, the right of the *PEOPLE* to *KEEP* and *BEAR* Arms, shall not
>>> be infringed.  [emph. added]
>>>
>>> *PEOPLE*
>>>
>>> Now get back in your clown car, Snit.
>>>
>> Militia.
>>
>> Bear arms.
>>
>> Those words and terms have meaning.
> 
> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations, not
> limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.

Sure: in a 5:4 decision judicial activism "won". Even then they noted 
limits. It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits 
carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock 
requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in 
the home."

It is about having a common handgun in your home, not about carrying one 
around, no less other arms. It even specifically speaks of acceptance of 
"limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by 
the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes".

It also notes that "the Second Amendment right is not unlimited" and 
specifically states "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon 
whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose" and that 
this does not mean we cannot have "laws forbidding the carrying of 
firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, 
or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of 
arms" and it "finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting 
the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons".

> But you already knew that, didn't you?  That's what I like about you:
> your attention to detail.

I did know that. Sure. I also knew the meaning of "bear arms":

<https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
-----
A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early 
Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th 
and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military. But we 
shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. “Bear arms” has never worked 
comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
target practice.
-----

Curious if you knew that.




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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#170287

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
Message-ID<petbkc$atj$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#170270

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnen49Fsn82U4@mid.individual.net...
> On 6/1/18 10:06 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:00:54 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/1/18 9:54 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fnecu9Fr49cU3@mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> The second amendment specifically mentions the militia and NO other
>>>>>> context.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. It mentions the context of the right of the people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which right, BTW, is not tied to ANY militia context.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>>>> State, the right of the *PEOPLE* to *KEEP* and *BEAR* Arms, shall not
>>>> be infringed.  [emph. added]
>>>>
>>>> *PEOPLE*
>>>>
>>>> Now get back in your clown car, Snit.
>>>>
>>> Militia.
>>>
>>> Bear arms.
>>>
>>> Those words and terms have meaning.
>>
>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations, not
>> limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>
> Sure: in a 5:4 decision judicial activism "won". Even then they noted 
> limits. It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits 
> carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock 
> requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in the 
> home."

It's confirmed.....another Rudy sockpuppet.

 

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#170297

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
Message-ID<fneqsnFtdvgU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170287
On 6/1/18 10:54 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnen49Fsn82U4@mid.individual.net...
>> On 6/1/18 10:06 PM, vallor wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:00:54 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/1/18 9:54 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:fnecu9Fr49cU3@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The second amendment specifically mentions the militia and NO other
>>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit. It mentions the context of the right of the people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which right, BTW, is not tied to ANY militia context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>>>>> State, the right of the *PEOPLE* to *KEEP* and *BEAR* Arms, shall not
>>>>> be infringed.  [emph. added]
>>>>>
>>>>> *PEOPLE*
>>>>>
>>>>> Now get back in your clown car, Snit.
>>>>>
>>>> Militia.
>>>>
>>>> Bear arms.
>>>>
>>>> Those words and terms have meaning.
>>>
>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations, not
>>> limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>
>> Sure: in a 5:4 decision judicial activism "won". Even then they noted 
>> limits. It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits 
>> carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock 
>> requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in 
>> the home."
> 
> It's confirmed.....another Rudy sockpuppet.
> 
> 
> 
Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
-----
A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early 
Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th 
and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military. But we 
shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. “Bear arms” has never worked 
comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
target practice.
-----

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#170646

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2018-06-03 03:41 +0000
Message-ID<fnh6aeFcefgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170297
On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 22:33:24 +0000, simon singh wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:13:43 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 6/1/18 10:54 PM, Scout wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fnen49Fsn82U4@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On 6/1/18 10:06 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:00:54 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/1/18 9:54 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:fnecu9Fr49cU3@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The second amendment specifically mentions the militia and NO
>>>>>>>>> other context.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bullshit. It mentions the context of the right of the people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which right, BTW, is not tied to ANY militia context.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
>>>>>>> free State, the right of the *PEOPLE* to *KEEP* and *BEAR* Arms,
>>>>>>> shall not be infringed.  [emph. added]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *PEOPLE*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now get back in your clown car, Snit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Militia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bear arms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those words and terms have meaning.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>>
>>>> Sure: in a 5:4 decision judicial activism "won". Even then they noted
>>>> limits. It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it
>>>> prohibits carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the
>>>> trigger-lock requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of
>>>> functional firearms in the home."
>>> 
>>> It's confirmed.....another Rudy sockpuppet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:
>> 
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-
> the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-
> b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
>> -----
>> A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding
>> Era
>>
> Snit has just gone into "Rainman Mode" where he repeats the same invalid
> statements over and over again hoping they will somehow become truth.
> For those that don't know, it's usually a sign that snit is high on
> medication once again.
> Other signs are where he uses phrases like "I commend you", which is his
> narcissistic BPD rearing it's ugly head. Boring and "not interested" are
> other terms he uses when he has run a troll dry and can milk it no
> longer.
> 
> For those who are not aware, snit is one of usenet's most prolific
> trolls. He has been trolling literally 24x7x365 for over a decade. Why?
> He has no job, he is mentally ill and has nothing better to do with his
> life.
> There are web pages devoted to the snit troll.
> Read here for more information about snit.
> 
> http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
> http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html


https://infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#nauseam

Argumentum ad nauseam
This is the incorrect belief that an assertion is more likely to be true, 
or is more likely to be accepted as true, the more often it is heard. So 
an Argumentum ad Nauseam is one that employs constant repetition in 
asserting something; saying the same thing over and over again until 
you're sick of hearing it.

On the Net, your argument is often less likely to be heard if you repeat 
it over and over again, as people will tend to put you in their kill 
files.

-- 
-v

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#170661

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 21:11 -0700
Message-ID<fnh83iFcu9kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170646
On 6/2/18 8:41 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 22:33:24 +0000, simon singh wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:13:43 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/1/18 10:54 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fnen49Fsn82U4@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 6/1/18 10:06 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 22:00:54 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/1/18 9:54 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 23:53:44 -0400, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:fnecu9Fr49cU3@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The second amendment specifically mentions the militia and NO
>>>>>>>>>> other context.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit. It mentions the context of the right of the people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which right, BTW, is not tied to ANY militia context.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
>>>>>>>> free State, the right of the *PEOPLE* to *KEEP* and *BEAR* Arms,
>>>>>>>> shall not be infringed.  [emph. added]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *PEOPLE*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now get back in your clown car, Snit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Militia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bear arms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those words and terms have meaning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure: in a 5:4 decision judicial activism "won". Even then they noted
>>>>> limits. It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it
>>>>> prohibits carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the
>>>>> trigger-lock requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of
>>>>> functional firearms in the home."
>>>>
>>>> It's confirmed.....another Rudy sockpuppet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:
>>>
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-
>> the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-
>> b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
>>> -----
>>> A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding
>>> Era
>>>
>> Snit has just gone into "Rainman Mode" where he repeats the same invalid
>> statements over and over again hoping they will somehow become truth.
>> For those that don't know, it's usually a sign that snit is high on
>> medication once again.
>> Other signs are where he uses phrases like "I commend you", which is his
>> narcissistic BPD rearing it's ugly head. Boring and "not interested" are
>> other terms he uses when he has run a troll dry and can milk it no
>> longer.
>>
>> For those who are not aware, snit is one of usenet's most prolific
>> trolls. He has been trolling literally 24x7x365 for over a decade. Why?
>> He has no job, he is mentally ill and has nothing better to do with his
>> life.
>> There are web pages devoted to the snit troll.
>> Read here for more information about snit.
>>
>> http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
>> http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html
> 
> 
> https://infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#nauseam
> 
> Argumentum ad nauseam
> This is the incorrect belief that an assertion is more likely to be true,
> or is more likely to be accepted as true, the more often it is heard. So
> an Argumentum ad Nauseam is one that employs constant repetition in
> asserting something; saying the same thing over and over again until
> you're sick of hearing it.

If Carroll and these odd socks who have shown up to defend him REALLY 
believed I did as they say they would quote these alleged lies.

Of course, when I note this Carroll dredges up ancient debates from a 
year or more ago -- often from 2004 or so. Then he claims a "win" if I 
do not rehash these same debates.

Even better would be just to move the hell on. Give up on his flooding 
and trolling and obsessing over me and simply talk tech. But that will 
NEVER happen.


> On the Net, your argument is often less likely to be heard if you repeat
> it over and over again, as people will tend to put you in their kill
> files.
> 
Not in COLA... seems that is what many thrive on. :)

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#170379 — The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
SubjectThe Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.2--6.51am.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#170269
> > Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
> 
> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.

The Supreme Court got it wrong.

Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .

Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

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#170418 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<3azQC.316732$1e7.309457@fx38.iad>
In reply to#170379
On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>
>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
> 
> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
> 
> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
> 
> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
> 
Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that makes 
murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight that idea!

I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common sense" 
laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting school 
children and other innocents until the message is loud and clear!

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#170461 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<fng39aF6gapU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170418
On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>>
>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>
>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
>>
>> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
>>
>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>
> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that makes 
> murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight that idea!
> 
> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common sense" 
> laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting school 
> children and other innocents until the message is loud and clear!

Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you think 
that is common sense?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#170498 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<C3DQC.130747$np1.17132@fx06.iad>
In reply to#170461
On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>>>
>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>
>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
>>>
>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
>>>
>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>
>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that makes 
>> murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight that idea!
>>
>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common sense" 
>> laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting school 
>> children and other innocents until the message is loud and clear!
> 
> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you think 
> that is common sense?
> 
I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it was 
common sense. Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership for all 
potential shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools and 
concerts. Isn't that just common sense?

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#170501 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<fngcvmF8a4tU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170498
On 6/2/18 1:25 PM, benj wrote:
> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>>
>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
>>>>
>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>
>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that makes 
>>> murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight that idea!
>>>
>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common sense" 
>>> laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting school 
>>> children and other innocents until the message is loud and clear!
>>
>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you think 
>> that is common sense?
>>
> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it was 
> common sense. 

I do not see those posts. Can you provide a link? This thread is in 
multiple groups so maybe there are those who did not even have their 
messages posted where I am reading.

> Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership for all 
> potential shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools and 
> concerts. Isn't that just common sense?

How so?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#170533 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<T_FQC.265911$ll2.30599@fx35.iad>
In reply to#170501
On 6/2/2018 4:28 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/2/18 1:25 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>>
>>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that 
>>>> makes murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight 
>>>> that idea!
>>>>
>>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common 
>>>> sense" laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting 
>>>> school children and other innocents until the message is loud and 
>>>> clear!
>>>
>>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you think 
>>> that is common sense?
>>>
>> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it was 
>> common sense. 
> 
> I do not see those posts. Can you provide a link? This thread is in 
> multiple groups so maybe there are those who did not even have their 
> messages posted where I am reading.
> 
>> Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership for all potential 
>> shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools and concerts. Isn't 
>> that just common sense?
> 
> How so?
> 
I"m asking YOUR opinion, Eliza. All you do is ask questions.
How do you feel about giving your personal opinion?

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#170564 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<fngs46Fb1d7U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170533
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 6/2/2018 4:28 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/2/18 1:25 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that 
>>>>> makes murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight 
>>>>> that idea!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common 
>>>>> sense" laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting 
>>>>> school children and other innocents until the message is loud and 
>>>>> clear!
>>>> 
>>>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you think 
>>>> that is common sense?
>>>> 
>>> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it was 
>>> common sense. 
>> 
>> I do not see those posts. Can you provide a link? This thread is in 
>> multiple groups so maybe there are those who did not even have their 
>> messages posted where I am reading.
>> 
>>> Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership for all potential 
>>> shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools and concerts. Isn't 
>>> that just common sense?
>> 
>> How so?
>> 
> I"m asking YOUR opinion, Eliza. All you do is ask questions.
> How do you feel about giving your personal opinion?
> 
> 

I disagree with your view there. Thought that was clear. 

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#170831 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromJust Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com>
Date2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<uFZQC.150634$R51.20242@fx03.iad>
In reply to#170498
On 6/2/2018 2:25 PM, benj wrote:
> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>>
>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
>>>>
>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>
>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that makes 
>>> murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight that idea!
>>>
>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common sense" 
>>> laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting school 
>>> children and other innocents until the message is loud and clear!
>>
>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you think 
>> that is common sense?
>>
> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it was 
> common sense. Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership for all 
> potential shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools and 
> concerts. Isn't that just common sense?

Pass laws that ban alcohol and marijuana ownership
for all potential users and you stop all drunk
driving and pot-induced car accidents.  Isn't that
just common sense?
Oh, wait, we've tried those things and they don't
work either.  Never mind.

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#170836 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<fnj8k6Fp1jcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170831
Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/2/2018 2:25 PM, benj wrote:
>> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>>>> Militia.  Bear arms.  These words have meaning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are explanations,
>>>>>> not limitations.  This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms    For    The   State's   Militia  .
>>>>> 
>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
>>>>> 
>>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that makes 
>>>> murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will fight that idea!
>>>> 
>>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common sense" 
>>>> laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting school 
>>>> children and other innocents until the message is loud and clear!
>>> 
>>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you think 
>>> that is common sense?
>>> 
>> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it was 
>> common sense. Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership for all 
>> potential shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools and 
>> concerts. Isn't that just common sense?
> 
> Pass laws that ban alcohol and marijuana ownership
> for all potential users and you stop all drunk
> driving and pot-induced car accidents.  Isn't that
> just common sense?
> Oh, wait, we've tried those things and they don't
> work either.  Never mind.
> 
> 

We have made policy that has greatly reduced vehicular death. The success
there has been amazing even with more miles driven. 

We should use the same model and have evidence based regulation, licensing,
registration, limits, etc. 

Evidence based requires research of course. Without it we cannot target the
laws well. The NRA and most gun owners show no understanding of improvement
to our targeting. 

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#170905 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<pf2r07$h14$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#170836
In news:fnj8k6Fp1jcU1@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/2/2018 2:25 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:

>>>>>>>> Militia. Bear arms. These words have meaning.

>>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are
>>>>>>> explanations, not limitations. This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.

>>>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.

>>>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms For The State's Militia .

>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

>>>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that
>>>>> makes murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will
>>>>> fight that idea!

>>>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common
>>>>> sense" laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting
>>>>> school children and other innocents until the message is loud and
>>>>> clear!

>>>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you
>>>> think that is common sense?

>>> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it
>>> was common sense. Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership
>>> for all potential shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools
>>> and concerts. Isn't that just common sense?

>> Pass laws that ban alcohol and marijuana ownership
>> for all potential users and you stop all drunk
>> driving and pot-induced car accidents.  Isn't that
>> just common sense?
>> Oh, wait, we've tried those things and they don't
>> work either.  Never mind.

> We have made policy that has greatly reduced vehicular death. The
> success there has been amazing even with more miles driven.

> We should use the same model and have evidence based regulation,
> licensing, registration, limits, etc.

> Evidence based requires research of course. Without it we cannot
> target the laws well. The NRA and most gun owners show no
> understanding of improvement to our targeting.

Then let the Department of Justice do it. 

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#170912 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<fnkajiF667U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170905
On 6/3/18 11:24 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fnj8k6Fp1jcU1@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2018 2:25 PM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> Militia. Bear arms. These words have meaning.
> 
>>>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are
>>>>>>>> explanations, not limitations. This is a *RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE*.
> 
>>>>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
> 
>>>>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms For The State's Militia .
> 
>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
> 
>>>>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that
>>>>>> makes murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will
>>>>>> fight that idea!
> 
>>>>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common
>>>>>> sense" laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting
>>>>>> school children and other innocents until the message is loud and
>>>>>> clear!
> 
>>>>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you
>>>>> think that is common sense?
> 
>>>> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it
>>>> was common sense. Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun ownership
>>>> for all potential shooters and you stop all the masscres at schools
>>>> and concerts. Isn't that just common sense?
> 
>>> Pass laws that ban alcohol and marijuana ownership
>>> for all potential users and you stop all drunk
>>> driving and pot-induced car accidents.  Isn't that
>>> just common sense?
>>> Oh, wait, we've tried those things and they don't
>>> work either.  Never mind.
> 
>> We have made policy that has greatly reduced vehicular death. The
>> success there has been amazing even with more miles driven.
> 
>> We should use the same model and have evidence based regulation,
>> licensing, registration, limits, etc.
> 
>> Evidence based requires research of course. Without it we cannot
>> target the laws well. The NRA and most gun owners show no
>> understanding of improvement to our targeting.
> 
> Then let the Department of Justice do it.
> 
> 
Do they do research on other health and safety issues? If so then I am 
fine with them doing research here, too. Absolutely!

Heck, let the NRA also fund research (though given their built in bias 
of benefiting from gun sales and gun violence we should be wary of it).

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#171307 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<pf52ql$n3l$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#170912
In news:fnkajiF667U2@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/3/18 11:24 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fnj8k6Fp1jcU1@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/2018 2:25 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Militia. Bear arms. These words have meaning.

>>>>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are
>>>>>>>>> explanations, not limitations. This is a *RIGHT OF THE
>>>>>>>>> PEOPLE*.

>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.

>>>>>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms For The State's Militia .

>>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.

>>>>>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that
>>>>>>> makes murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will
>>>>>>> fight that idea!

>>>>>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common
>>>>>>> sense" laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting
>>>>>>> school children and other innocents until the message is loud
>>>>>>> and clear!

>>>>>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you
>>>>>> think that is common sense?

>>>>> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it
>>>>> was common sense. Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun
>>>>> ownership for all potential shooters and you stop all the
>>>>> masscres at schools and concerts. Isn't that just common sense?

>>>> Pass laws that ban alcohol and marijuana ownership
>>>> for all potential users and you stop all drunk
>>>> driving and pot-induced car accidents.  Isn't that
>>>> just common sense?
>>>> Oh, wait, we've tried those things and they don't
>>>> work either.  Never mind.

>>> We have made policy that has greatly reduced vehicular death. The
>>> success there has been amazing even with more miles driven.

>>> We should use the same model and have evidence based regulation,
>>> licensing, registration, limits, etc.

>>> Evidence based requires research of course. Without it we cannot
>>> target the laws well. The NRA and most gun owners show no
>>> understanding of improvement to our targeting.

>> Then let the Department of Justice do it.

> Do they do research on other health and safety issues?...

No, they do research on CRIMES, and that's the real issue here-- lives lost to criminals who use
guns in their crimes.

AFAIK, accidental deaths due to gunshots continue to creep downward. Suicides are still a problem,
but can a society that legalizes doctor-assisted suicide and champions "Death with Dignity" really
bitch about the ultimate DIY project?

> ... If so then I am fine with them doing research here, too. Absolutely!

> Heck, let the NRA also fund research (though given their built in bias
> of benefiting from gun sales and gun violence we should be wary of it).

Given the CDC's history of advocating the elimination of privately-owned handguns, we should be wary
of it, too. 

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#171322 — Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
SubjectRe: The Supreme Court got it wrong.
Message-ID<fnmi0eFdcfbU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171307
max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> In news:fnkajiF667U2@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/3/18 11:24 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fnj8k6Fp1jcU1@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/2/2018 2:25 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/2/2018 1:43 PM, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/2/18 8:59 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2018 9:51 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Militia. Bear arms. These words have meaning.
> 
>>>>>>>>>> The SC has determined that the clauses in question are
>>>>>>>>>> explanations, not limitations. This is a *RIGHT OF THE
>>>>>>>>>> PEOPLE*.
> 
>>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court got it wrong.
> 
>>>>>>>>> Americans may keep and bear Arms For The State's Militia .
> 
>>>>>>>>> Clearly, no "Militia" should include depressed gunmen
>>>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service.
> 
>>>>>>>> Right, Rolf. WAIT! I got it! Lets have Congress pass a law that
>>>>>>>> makes murder a crime? No doubt the terrorists in the NRA will
>>>>>>>> fight that idea!
> 
>>>>>>>> I think you'll find, Rolf, that unless Congress passes "common
>>>>>>>> sense" laws that disarm all citizens "we" will continue shooting
>>>>>>>> school children and other innocents until the message is loud
>>>>>>>> and clear!
> 
>>>>>>> Why jump to the idea of disarming all citizens? What makes you
>>>>>>> think that is common sense?
> 
>>>>>> I was told by all those making the same arguments you are that it
>>>>>> was common sense. Don't you agree? Pass laws that ban gun
>>>>>> ownership for all potential shooters and you stop all the
>>>>>> masscres at schools and concerts. Isn't that just common sense?
> 
>>>>> Pass laws that ban alcohol and marijuana ownership
>>>>> for all potential users and you stop all drunk
>>>>> driving and pot-induced car accidents.  Isn't that
>>>>> just common sense?
>>>>> Oh, wait, we've tried those things and they don't
>>>>> work either.  Never mind.
> 
>>>> We have made policy that has greatly reduced vehicular death. The
>>>> success there has been amazing even with more miles driven.
> 
>>>> We should use the same model and have evidence based regulation,
>>>> licensing, registration, limits, etc.
> 
>>>> Evidence based requires research of course. Without it we cannot
>>>> target the laws well. The NRA and most gun owners show no
>>>> understanding of improvement to our targeting.
> 
>>> Then let the Department of Justice do it.
> 
>> Do they do research on other health and safety issues?...
> 
> No, they do research on CRIMES, and that's the real issue here-- lives
> lost to criminals who use
> guns in their crimes.
> 
> AFAIK, accidental deaths due to gunshots continue to creep downward.
> Suicides are still a problem,
> but can a society that legalizes doctor-assisted suicide and champions
> "Death with Dignity" really
> bitch about the ultimate DIY project?
> 
>> ... If so then I am fine with them doing research here, too. Absolutely!
> 
>> Heck, let the NRA also fund research (though given their built in bias
>> of benefiting from gun sales and gun violence we should be wary of it).
> 
> Given the CDC's history of advocating the elimination of privately-owned
> handguns, we should be wary
> of it, too. 
> 
> 
> 

You changed the topic from health impacts to crimes. 

Interesting. 

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