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Slaughtering concert goers.

Started byJeff-Relf.Me @.
First post2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
Last post2018-06-04 23:17 -0500
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  Slaughtering concert goers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 12:06 -0400
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 10:02 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 15:49 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-31 20:12 +0000
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:20 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 16:37 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 19:57 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 17:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:38 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:32 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:42 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:54 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:22 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:36 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:07 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:31 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:47 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 08:50 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 22:53 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:39 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:16 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:29 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:43 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:33 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0400
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-05-31 19:49 -0500
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-05-31 17:51 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:26 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:39 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:13 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 03:21 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:46 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 08:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 08:27 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 11:59 -0700
                    Re: ā„ Snowflake ā„ Slaughtering concert goers. ā„ Snowflake ā„ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus šŸ¶ē¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-01 14:07 -0500
                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-01 13:13 -0600
                        Re: ā„ Snowflake ā„ ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ā„ Snowflake ā„ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus šŸ¶ē¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-01 14:21 -0500
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ? Snowflake ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-01 13:55 -0600
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 12:56 -0700
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-01 23:35 +0100
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-01 23:57 +0100
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-02 00:07 +0100
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-01 20:29 -0400
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-02 08:32 +0100
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-02 08:32 +0100
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:51 -0700
                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-02 18:09 +0100
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-01 17:10 -0600
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-02 00:13 +0100
                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 18:50 -0700
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:00 -0700
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:29 -0700
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:47 -0700
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:18 -0700
                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 09:14 -0700
                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:48 -0700
                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:28 -0700
                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:14 -0400
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 00:18 +0000
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 00:18 +0000
                                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 21:20 -0400
                                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:03 -0700
                                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:26 +0000
                                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0700
                                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:54 +0000
                                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 20:58 -0600
                                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 20:57 -0600
                                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:04 -0700
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                Re: ā„ Snowflake ā„ ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ā„ Snowflake ā„ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus šŸ¶ē¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-02 08:15 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 12:30 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 17:09 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:37 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:00 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:14 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:09 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:48 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 04:53 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:11 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:12 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 00:47 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:05 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:31 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:01 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:39 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:16 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:35 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:19 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:40 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:26 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:11 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:32 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:26 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:01 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 22:35 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 17:16 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:47 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 21:10 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 01:39 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:52 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 22:04 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:05 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:30 +0000
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:39 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:12 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 21:34 -0600
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 20:47 -0600
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 22:01 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:04 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:28 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:27 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:38 +0000
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:42 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:53 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:57 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:28 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:37 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:39 -0600
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 21:33 -0600
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:19 -0500
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:41 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:11 -0700
                          The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:47 -0600
                                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 05:40 +0000
                                      Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                                        Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:03 -0600
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                                                  Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                                        Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 21:36 -0600
                                          Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-07 05:45 -0600
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                                                    "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                                                Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-02 01:20 -0400
                      Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 19:05 -0600
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 22:34 -0600
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-03 14:02 -0600
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:09 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:40 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 09:35 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-03 15:21 -0600
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-03 18:51 -0600
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 01:38 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-03 20:11 -0500
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:37 -0600
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:02 -0600
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0600
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:25 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:37 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:51 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:00 -0500
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 06:26 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:28 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:12 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:27 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:07 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:44 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:19 -0600
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:23 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:31 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 22:09 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:48 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:47 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:44 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:10 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:19 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 23:53 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:57 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:22 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:30 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus šŸ¶ē¬› <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-04 02:48 -0500
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:58 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:19 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 20:56 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:26 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:45 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:30 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:00 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:45 -0500
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:07 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:27 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 17:07 -0600
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 16:18 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 17:04 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:13 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 20:16 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:41 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 02:29 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:50 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:41 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:38 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 10:01 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 -0500
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:58 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:21 -0600
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:43 -0600
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-05 22:44 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0600
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 18:21 -0600
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0600
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 08:28 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 09:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 10:29 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 21:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 14:33 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:56 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:25 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:04 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:02 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 13:42 -0600
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:32 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 16:24 -0600
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 17:31 -0600
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 23:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:57 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:21 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:33 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 05:26 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 05:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:51 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 07:04 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-10 04:35 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:56 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:31 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:34 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:23 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:33 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-10 01:39 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-10 15:46 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 15:26 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:59 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:22 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:32 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Corwin Esterness <woolcross@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:25 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:31 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-09 12:00 -0600
                                                                    Truth Avoidance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:11 -0700
                                                                      Re: Truth Avoidance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:33 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:20 -0400
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:31 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:12 +0000
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 18:41 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:46 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:56 -0600
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-09 17:57 -0600
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Bill (not Jillians) DOW #3" <noemail@none.not> - 2018-06-09 20:06 -0400
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-06-12 00:11 +0100
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 17:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:11 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:32 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:55 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:53 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:16 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:03 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:20 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:06 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:33 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:11 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:17 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-07 05:56 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 22:05 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0600
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:05 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:46 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 17:57 -0600
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-05 18:03 -0600
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:23 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:26 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:09 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:52 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:08 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:14 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 11:55 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:07 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:50 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:12 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:07 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:38 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:57 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:45 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:18 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:17 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:10 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:01 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:36 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:51 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:39 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 13:29 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 11:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 17:20 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 14:35 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:08 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:26 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:42 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:32 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:37 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 17:57 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 19:04 -0600
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:30 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-02 19:00 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:09 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:12 -0600
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:59 -0600
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:02 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:24 -0600
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:01 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 19:51 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:56 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 20:21 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:24 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-06-03 23:36 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Skeeter DoW #420 <fnvw@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-03 18:53 -0600
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:28 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:58 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:02 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:17 -0500

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#171734

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 18:07 -0700
Message-ID<fnoqe1FbpqgU32@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171721
On 6/5/18 5:56 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:12:01 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/5/18 5:00 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>>>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped, would you rather have a baseball
>>>>> bat or a gun?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will
>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot.
>>>
>>> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..
>>>
>>> [snort]
>>>
>>
>> I noted your twisting of context.
> 
> I noted you failed to answer his question.
> 
> I win.
> 

Not interested in whatever game you are playing. So, back to the topic:

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action".

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#171719

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-05 17:38 -0700
Message-ID<pf7ahr$rj1$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#171697
In news:109ehddrthpuovvqvg40lg944e1bg848t5@4ax.com,
Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:

> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>> teachers!

>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:

>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986

>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.

>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in
>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.

>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped,
>>> would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?

>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will
>> surely lead to more kids being shot.

> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..

> [snort]

The guy is just trolling in t.p.g. He's shot his wad and now he's just repeating himself. 

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#171722

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-05 17:57 -0700
Message-ID<facehd9ujann94alufro106oldjm857fbl@4ax.com>
In reply to#171719
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:38:23 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

>In news:109ehddrthpuovvqvg40lg944e1bg848t5@4ax.com,
>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>> teachers!
>
>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>
>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>
>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>
>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in
>>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>
>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped,
>>>> would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?
>
>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will
>>> surely lead to more kids being shot.
>
>> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..
>
>> [snort]
>
>The guy is just trolling in t.p.g. He's shot his wad and now he's just repeating himself. 
>

Is it me, or has the Troll Quality Quotient really taken a dive since
the Old Days?

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#171735

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
Message-ID<fnoqh7FbpqgU33@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171722
On 6/5/18 5:57 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:38:23 -0700, "max headroom"
> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> 
>> In news:109ehddrthpuovvqvg40lg944e1bg848t5@4ax.com,
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>>
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!
>>
>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>
>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>
>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>
>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in
>>>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>
>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped,
>>>>> would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?
>>
>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it will
>>>> surely lead to more kids being shot.
>>
>>> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..
>>
>>> [snort]
>>
>> The guy is just trolling in t.p.g. He's shot his wad and now he's just repeating himself.
>>
> 
> Is it me, or has the Troll Quality Quotient really taken a dive since
> the Old Days?
> 

Your trolling is not exactly clever. You just repeating the same claims 
you cannot back, ignoring evidence you do not like, twisting words, etc. 
Very common trolling techniques.

Instead of focusing on those, though, I will go back to the topic:

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action".

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#171794

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-05 22:45 -0700
Message-ID<pf7sl0$935$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#171722
In news:facehd9ujann94alufro106oldjm857fbl@4ax.com,
Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:

> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:38:23 -0700, "max headroom"
> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>> In news:109ehddrthpuovvqvg40lg944e1bg848t5@4ax.com,
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>> teachers!

>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:

>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986

>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.

>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in
>>>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.

>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped,
>>>>> would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?

>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it
>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot.

>>> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..

>>> [snort]

>> The guy is just trolling in t.p.g. He's shot his wad and now he's
>> just repeating himself.

> Is it me, or has the Troll Quality Quotient really taken a dive since
> the Old Days?

Well, he's certainly steps above Sonny Yung, the Canadian America-hater, and Chucky, but he's about 
as tiresome as Jones, without a sense of humor. 

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#171806

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-06 04:18 -0700
Message-ID<lmgfhdd5q5jd378j13ke5mjner8umocv2v@4ax.com>
In reply to#171794
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 22:45:38 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:

>In news:facehd9ujann94alufro106oldjm857fbl@4ax.com,
>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:38:23 -0700, "max headroom"
>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> In news:109ehddrthpuovvqvg40lg944e1bg848t5@4ax.com,
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in
>>>>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped,
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?
>
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it
>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot.
>
>>>> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..
>
>>>> [snort]
>
>>> The guy is just trolling in t.p.g. He's shot his wad and now he's
>>> just repeating himself.
>
>> Is it me, or has the Troll Quality Quotient really taken a dive since
>> the Old Days?
>
>Well, he's certainly steps above Sonny Yung, the Canadian America-hater, and Chucky, but he's about 
>as tiresome as Jones, without a sense of humor. 
>

I'd have to agree. Just [yawn] tiresome and unoriginal.

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#171824

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
Message-ID<fnqbhoF560lU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171806
Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 22:45:38 -0700, "max headroom"
> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> 
>> In news:facehd9ujann94alufro106oldjm857fbl@4ax.com,
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:38:23 -0700, "max headroom"
>>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> In news:109ehddrthpuovvqvg40lg944e1bg848t5@4ax.com,
>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit
>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>>> teachers!
>> 
>>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>> 
>>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>> 
>>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in
>>>>>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>> 
>>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped,
>>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?
>> 
>>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it
>>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot.
>> 
>>>>> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..
>> 
>>>>> [snort]
>> 
>>>> The guy is just trolling in t.p.g. He's shot his wad and now he's
>>>> just repeating himself.
>> 
>>> Is it me, or has the Troll Quality Quotient really taken a dive since
>>> the Old Days?
>> 
>> Well, he's certainly steps above Sonny Yung, the Canadian America-hater,
>> and Chucky, but he's about 
>> as tiresome as Jones, without a sense of humor. 
>> 
> 
> I'd have to agree. Just [yawn] tiresome and unoriginal.
> 

But you have no counter. OK. 

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#171823

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
Message-ID<fnqbhnF560lU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171794
max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
> In news:facehd9ujann94alufro106oldjm857fbl@4ax.com,
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
> 
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:38:23 -0700, "max headroom"
>> <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> In news:109ehddrthpuovvqvg40lg944e1bg848t5@4ax.com,
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> typed:
>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 14:45:27 -0700, Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/18 1:02 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fno5uhFbpqgU8@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying
>>>>>>>>> teachers!
> 
>>>>>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
> 
>>>>>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
> 
>>>>>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
> 
>>>>>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in
>>>>>>> class rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
> 
>>>>>> If a crazed gunman bursts into the room in which you are trapped,
>>>>>> would you rather have a baseball bat or a gun?
> 
>>>>> I would rather NOT have more guns in the classroom given how it
>>>>> will surely lead to more kids being shot.
> 
>>>> You failed to answer the question. That's so unlike you..
> 
>>>> [snort]
> 
>>> The guy is just trolling in t.p.g. He's shot his wad and now he's
>>> just repeating himself.
> 
>> Is it me, or has the Troll Quality Quotient really taken a dive since
>> the Old Days?
> 
> Well, he's certainly steps above Sonny Yung, the Canadian America-hater,
> and Chucky, but he's about 
> as tiresome as Jones, without a sense of humor. 
> 
> 
> 

You do not find me funny. The horror. 

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#171693

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
Message-ID<2v8ehddgl8ik68c34lpgmmgud30pqklkff@4ax.com>
In reply to#171533
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 12:17:37 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying teachers!
>> 
>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>> 
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>> 
>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>> 
>What a stupid idea...

No kidding. But that's the mentality we're dealing with here.

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#172331

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-06-08 07:17 -0500
Message-ID<luskhd1nj4tpcjecoiqi21eucitjl2088r@4ax.com>
In reply to#171693
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 12:17:37 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>wrote:

*plonk*

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#171706

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 17:10 -0700
Message-ID<fnon4bFqc8mU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171533
On 6/5/18 12:17 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying teachers!
>>
>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>
>>
>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>
> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class 
> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
> 

Klaus responded with more word twisting.

If he cannot be honest about the meaning of words here, today, then why 
should ANYONE believe him about words written long ago?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#171723

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-06-05 18:01 -0700
Message-ID<7gcehdh0mntjqod9jshi1amg5k7fm8oetl@4ax.com>
In reply to#171706
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:10:51 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>On 6/5/18 12:17 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying teachers!
>>>
>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986 
>>>
>>>
>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>
>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class 
>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>> 
>
>Klaus responded with more word twisting.


TRANSLATION: "Klaus correctly discerned what I said. I hate that."

>If he cannot be honest about the meaning of words here, today, then why 
>should ANYONE believe him about words written long ago?

Poor snit. LOL

He actually expects to be taken seriously!

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#171736

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 18:09 -0700
Message-ID<fnoqidFqsh7U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171723
On 6/5/18 6:01 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:10:51 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/5/18 12:17 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/5/18 11:56 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 08:11:42 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Even now the NRA is saying schools should have gun-carrying teachers!
>>>>
>>>> Here's the liberal alternative:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pennsylvania-school-district-gives-teachers-small-baseball-bats-last-resort-n864986
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's how dumb the leftists are.
>>>>
>>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
>>>
>>
>> Klaus responded with more word twisting.
> 
> 
> TRANSLATION: "Klaus correctly discerned what I said. I hate that."
> 
>> If he cannot be honest about the meaning of words here, today, then why
>> should ANYONE believe him about words written long ago?
> 
> Poor snit. LOL
> 
> He actually expects to be taken seriously!
> 
While you just keep twisting and playing games to avoid the fact you 
cannot back your views, I will go back to the topic:

* The meaning / usage  of "bear arms" (pretty much
   exclusively for "war, soldiering or organized, armed
   action".

* Their were laws restricting firearms at the start of
   the country which were never, as far as I can find,
   challenged on second amendment grounds. This makes it
   a hard sale to say they were against the second
   amendment.

* Most (though not all) relevant scholars have supported
   the states rights view.

* We should not allow the NRA, a group that benefits from
   mass shootings and terrorism, to largely control our gun
   laws.

* We clearly do have, have had, and should have, limits on
   arms... what one could call "infringements".

* We should do more research on gun deaths and injuries, as
   we do with vehicles, pools, food, and pretty much everything
   else that is tied to death and injuries.

* I back evidence-based policies.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#171744

From!Jones <jones@fobahor.com>
Date2018-06-05 20:36 -0500
Message-ID<jieehd195vnesupc2ednnka7l7lr3k82nv@4ax.com>
In reply to#171533
x-no-idiots: yes

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 12:17:37 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class 
>rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.

Have the teachers and students all wear explosive vests with
hydrostatic triggers?

Jones

--
Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.

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#171749

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-05 18:51 -0700
Message-ID<fnot06FbpqgU36@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#171744
On 6/5/18 6:36 PM, !Jones wrote:
> x-no-idiots: yes
> 
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 12:17:37 -0700, in talk.politics.guns Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> What a stupid idea... but much, much better than putting GUNS in class
>> rooms. THAT idea is FAR worse.
> 
> Have the teachers and students all wear explosive vests with
> hydrostatic triggers?
> 
> Jones
> 
> --
> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
> 

Ricin gas canisters for all citizens. And nukes!

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#170021

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-01 09:09 -0400
Message-ID<uAbQC.165674$mS3.29271@fx04.iad>
In reply to#169977
On 6/1/2018 12:25 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 5/31/18 5:49 PM, !Jones wrote:
>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>
>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 05:22:39 -0700 (Seattle), in talk.politics.guns
>> Jeff-Relf.MeĀ  @. wrote:
>>
>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>> slaughtering concert goers.
>>
>> Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
>> six of our Document of Confederation and ratified in 1781.Ā  Article
>> six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.Ā  The second
>> amendment never redefined a "well regulated militia"; therefore, the
>> existing definition at the time holds.
>>
>> The salient part reads: "[Every] State shall always keep up a
>> well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and
>> accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in
>> public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper
>> quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage."
>>
>> Where are the arms kept?Ā  I assume that a "filed piece" means a "field
>> piece" or light artillery?Ā  But the arms are to be kept "in public
>> stores".Ā  It wasn't about a clock that keeps good time.
>>
>> Jones
>>
>> -- 
>> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
>>
> 
> At the time of the founding, and for many years after, there were laws 
> against what we now call open carry, and even laws against having loaded 
> guns in homes.
> 
> The nonsense we are told now is just insane.
> 
No, we are told (by supreme court) that they are unconstitutional.
IN other words states and cities cannot override the constitution when 
it comes to second amendment. This is a recent determination. It's 
called being incorporated.

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#170045

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 07:39 -0700
Message-ID<fnd45sFjo6aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170021
On 6/1/18 6:09 AM, benj wrote:
> On 6/1/2018 12:25 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 5/31/18 5:49 PM, !Jones wrote:
>>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>>
>>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 05:22:39 -0700 (Seattle), in talk.politics.guns
>>> Jeff-Relf.MeĀ  @. wrote:
>>>
>>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>>> slaughtering concert goers.
>>>
>>> Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
>>> six of our Document of Confederation and ratified in 1781.Ā  Article
>>> six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.Ā  The second
>>> amendment never redefined a "well regulated militia"; therefore, the
>>> existing definition at the time holds.
>>>
>>> The salient part reads: "[Every] State shall always keep up a
>>> well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and
>>> accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in
>>> public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper
>>> quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage."
>>>
>>> Where are the arms kept?Ā  I assume that a "filed piece" means a "field
>>> piece" or light artillery?Ā  But the arms are to be kept "in public
>>> stores".Ā  It wasn't about a clock that keeps good time.
>>>
>>> Jones
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
>>>
>>
>> At the time of the founding, and for many years after, there were laws 
>> against what we now call open carry, and even laws against having 
>> loaded guns in homes.
>>
>> The nonsense we are told now is just insane.
>>
> No, we are told (by supreme court) that they are unconstitutional.
> IN other words states and cities cannot override the constitution when 
> it comes to second amendment. This is a recent determination. It's 
> called being incorporated.

First, you might want to look more closely at the Heller case. It makes 
it clear there ARE limits.

<https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html>

It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits carrying 
an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock requirement 
insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in the home."

It is about having a common handgun in your home, not about carrying one 
around, no less other arms. It even specifically speaks of acceptance of 
"limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by 
the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes".

It also notes that "the Second Amendment right is not unlimited" and 
specifically states "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon 
whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose" and that 
this does not mean we cannot have "laws forbidding the carrying of 
firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, 
or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of 
arms" and it "finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting 
the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons".

And keep in mind, this is a decision where the SCOTUS redefined the 
second amendment to be more friendly to the modern NRA view.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#170074

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-01 13:29 -0400
Message-ID<7ofQC.108797$Jm2.28532@fx24.iad>
In reply to#170045
On 6/1/2018 10:39 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/1/18 6:09 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 6/1/2018 12:25 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 5/31/18 5:49 PM, !Jones wrote:
>>>> x-no-idiots: yes
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 05:22:39 -0700 (Seattle), in talk.politics.guns
>>>> Jeff-Relf.MeĀ  @. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>>>> slaughtering concert goers.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
>>>> six of our Document of Confederation and ratified in 1781.Ā  Article
>>>> six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.Ā  The second
>>>> amendment never redefined a "well regulated militia"; therefore, the
>>>> existing definition at the time holds.
>>>>
>>>> The salient part reads: "[Every] State shall always keep up a
>>>> well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and
>>>> accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in
>>>> public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper
>>>> quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage."
>>>>
>>>> Where are the arms kept?Ā  I assume that a "filed piece" means a "field
>>>> piece" or light artillery?Ā  But the arms are to be kept "in public
>>>> stores".Ā  It wasn't about a clock that keeps good time.
>>>>
>>>> Jones
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Quod si non verum est, non dicere est.
>>>>
>>>
>>> At the time of the founding, and for many years after, there were 
>>> laws against what we now call open carry, and even laws against 
>>> having loaded guns in homes.
>>>
>>> The nonsense we are told now is just insane.
>>>
>> No, we are told (by supreme court) that they are unconstitutional.
>> IN other words states and cities cannot override the constitution when 
>> it comes to second amendment. This is a recent determination. It's 
>> called being incorporated.
> 
> First, you might want to look more closely at the Heller case. It makes 
> it clear there ARE limits.
> 
> <https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html>
> 
> It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits carrying 
> an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock requirement 
> insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in the home."

That was the original case, fer sure, but the opinion goes well beyond that.

> It is about having a common handgun in your home, not about carrying one 
> around, no less other arms. It even specifically speaks of acceptance of 
> "limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by 
> the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes".

Which is stated correctly. Miller opinion, noted that 2nd amendment 
applies to arms relevant to militia. Sporting gear or whatever is not 
protected. Heller noted that this includes (as you note) arms "in common 
use for lawful purposes" of which they noted civilian self-defense is 
one. This therefore includes non-militia arms such as the AR15 but are 
covered because of the "in common use" for self-defense opinion. Thus, 
by this decision AR15 as well as the full auto military M16 are clearly 
protected by the constitution. To say that a citizen cannot own an M16 
machine gun is clearly unconstitutional and thus illegal.

> It also notes that "the Second Amendment right is not unlimited" and 
> specifically states "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon 
> whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose" and that 
> this does not mean we cannot have "laws forbidding the carrying of 
> firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, 
> or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of 
> arms" and it "finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting 
> the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons".

Finding support in historical tradition is hardly proof of 
constitutionality. There is tradition of putting Citizens in 
concentration camps and using army to dispel those peaceably assembled 
for redress of grievances. Doesn't make those rights invalid.

Since a rights are defined in the constitution it's obvious that the 
very definition is a limitation. But that limitation does not extend to 
the arbitrary infringements you seem to be implying.

> And keep in mind, this is a decision where the SCOTUS redefined the 
> second amendment to be more friendly to the modern NRA view.

Didn't "redefine" It DEFINED elements that had previously not been 
addressed. In particular whether the 2nd amendment applies to the 
states. They ruled it did. So sure that is a determination that is more 
"NRA-friendly" as you put it. I'd put it as more rights-friendly. I take 
it you are opposed to rights.

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#170084

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 11:09 -0700
Message-ID<fndge4Fm511U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#170074
On 6/1/18 10:29 AM, benj wrote:
...
>>>> At the time of the founding, and for many years after, there were 
>>>> laws against what we now call open carry, and even laws against 
>>>> having loaded guns in homes.
>>>>
>>>> The nonsense we are told now is just insane.
>>>>
>>> No, we are told (by supreme court) that they are unconstitutional.
>>> IN other words states and cities cannot override the constitution 
>>> when it comes to second amendment. This is a recent determination. 
>>> It's called being incorporated.
>>
>> First, you might want to look more closely at the Heller case. It 
>> makes it clear there ARE limits.
>>
>> <https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html>
>>
>> It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits 
>> carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock 
>> requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in 
>> the home."
> 
> That was the original case, fer sure, but the opinion goes well beyond 
> that.

Would love to hear your view on it.

>> It is about having a common handgun in your home, not about carrying 
>> one around, no less other arms. It even specifically speaks of 
>> acceptance of "limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to 
>> those used by the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful 
>> purposes".
> 
> Which is stated correctly. Miller opinion, noted that 2nd amendment 
> applies to arms relevant to militia. Sporting gear or whatever is not 
> protected. Heller noted that this includes (as you note) arms "in common 
> use for lawful purposes" of which they noted civilian self-defense is 
> one.

Sure... this was where they engaged in judicial activism and changed the 
long standing meaning, and may very well be tied to why we have more 
mass shootings since the time of its passing (I have heard arguments on 
both sides of this and I do not really take a side).

But even then the only context it specified was in the home.

> This therefore includes non-militia arms such as the AR15 but are 
> covered because of the "in common use" for self-defense opinion. Thus, 
> by this decision AR15 as well as the full auto military M16 are clearly 
> protected by the constitution. To say that a citizen cannot own an M16 
> machine gun is clearly unconstitutional and thus illegal.

The gun being referenced in the case was a double-barrel shotgun, not a 
fully automatic weapon. The Supreme Court has allowed bans even on high 
capacity weapons.

<https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/supreme-court-justices-allow-ban-on-high-capacity-guns> 
OR <https://goo.gl/bXJRts>

But keep in mind to the extent that Heller does back the NRA position, 
it is an act of judicial activism and NOT the historic meaning of the 
second amendment. I posted evidence for this before but it has gotten 
somewhat buried.

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html> 
OR <
https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
-----
A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
yields 281 instances of the phrase ā€œbear arms.ā€ BYU’s Corpus of Early 
Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of ā€œbear armsā€ in the 17th 
and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
meaning of ā€œbear armsā€ in the framers’ day was military. But we 
shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. ā€œBear armsā€ has never worked 
comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
target practice.
-----

>> It also notes that "the Second Amendment right is not unlimited" and 
>> specifically states "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon 
>> whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose" and that 
>> this does not mean we cannot have "laws forbidding the carrying of 
>> firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, 
>> or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale 
>> of arms" and it "finds support in the historical tradition of 
>> prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons".
> 
> Finding support in historical tradition is hardly proof of 
> constitutionality. 

The fact it was not challenged suggests that people of the time did not 
see it as a violation of the second amendment, but, sure, it is not 
proof of such.

> There is tradition of putting Citizens in 
> concentration camps and using army to dispel those peaceably assembled 
> for redress of grievances. Doesn't make those rights invalid.

Those things were challenged. Heavily. Does not mean they stopped them, 
at least in the short term, but they were challenged.

> Since a rights are defined in the constitution it's obvious that the 
> very definition is a limitation. But that limitation does not extend to 
> the arbitrary infringements you seem to be implying.

Limiting "arms" to "guns" is an arbitrary limitation. Why not include 
nukes and ricin? Because infringements on arms are necessary and a lack 
of them would be insane.

As far as where those limits should be, however, I have no strong 
opinion. I do back strong background checks tied to a national database, 
and accountability for gun owners. If your gun is stolen and you fail to 
report it then you are also tied to whatever crimes it is used in (there 
should be a reasonable time table for the report).

I also am heavily against the blocking of research... does not happen 
with cars or pools or falling hazards -- but does guns. That is insane.

>> And keep in mind, this is a decision where the SCOTUS redefined the 
>> second amendment to be more friendly to the modern NRA view.
> 
> Didn't "redefine" It DEFINED elements that had previously not been 
> addressed. In particular whether the 2nd amendment applies to the 
> states. They ruled it did. So sure that is a determination that is more 
> "NRA-friendly" as you put it. I'd put it as more rights-friendly. I take 
> it you are opposed to rights.

I am not opposed to rights but I am against (in general) judicial activism.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#170133

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-01 17:20 -0400
Message-ID<YMiQC.260177$ll2.146190@fx35.iad>
In reply to#170084
On 6/1/2018 2:09 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/1/18 10:29 AM, benj wrote:
> ...
>>>>> At the time of the founding, and for many years after, there were 
>>>>> laws against what we now call open carry, and even laws against 
>>>>> having loaded guns in homes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The nonsense we are told now is just insane.
>>>>>
>>>> No, we are told (by supreme court) that they are unconstitutional.
>>>> IN other words states and cities cannot override the constitution 
>>>> when it comes to second amendment. This is a recent determination. 
>>>> It's called being incorporated.
>>>
>>> First, you might want to look more closely at the Heller case. It 
>>> makes it clear there ARE limits.
>>>
>>> <https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html>
>>>
>>> It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits 
>>> carrying an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock 
>>> requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in 
>>> the home."
>>
>> That was the original case, fer sure, but the opinion goes well beyond 
>> that.
> 
> Would love to hear your view on it.
> 
>>> It is about having a common handgun in your home, not about carrying 
>>> one around, no less other arms. It even specifically speaks of 
>>> acceptance of "limits the type of weapon to which the right applies 
>>> to those used by the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful 
>>> purposes".
>>
>> Which is stated correctly. Miller opinion, noted that 2nd amendment 
>> applies to arms relevant to militia. Sporting gear or whatever is not 
>> protected. Heller noted that this includes (as you note) arms "in 
>> common use for lawful purposes" of which they noted civilian 
>> self-defense is one.
> 
> Sure... this was where they engaged in judicial activism and changed the 
> long standing meaning, and may very well be tied to why we have more 
> mass shootings since the time of its passing (I have heard arguments on 
> both sides of this and I do not really take a side).

So rendering an opinion is "judicial activism". I don't think so. They 
Clarified previous opinion not replaced it. I've heard that these 
decisions may well not only have nothing to do with mass shootings but 
may have actually caused them.

> But even then the only context it specified was in the home.

>> This therefore includes non-militia arms such as the AR15 but are 
>> covered because of the "in common use" for self-defense opinion. Thus, 
>> by this decision AR15 as well as the full auto military M16 are 
>> clearly protected by the constitution. To say that a citizen cannot 
>> own an M16 machine gun is clearly unconstitutional and thus illegal.
> 
> The gun being referenced in the case was a double-barrel shotgun, not a 
> fully automatic weapon. The Supreme Court has allowed bans even on high 
> capacity weapons.

The viewpoint of the court is clear. They had no evidence that a 
sawed-off shotgun (and it was double-barreled! Excellent research 
counselor!) had any relationship to a militia. OF course that does mean 
it did not, just that the court had no evidence (miller was dead so no 
evidence was presented. The criterion was clearly stated and the 
decision provided the example that gear NOT related to militia use use 
was to be questioned.

> <https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/supreme-court-justices-allow-ban-on-high-capacity-guns> 
> OR <https://goo.gl/bXJRts>

Fake news. Headline "spun" by Bradys and Bloombergs.
Refusal to hear a case does not count as any viewpoint taken by the court.

> But keep in mind to the extent that Heller does back the NRA position, 
> it is an act of judicial activism and NOT the historic meaning of the 
> second amendment. I posted evidence for this before but it has gotten 
> somewhat buried.

Historic meaning (Which comes from "rights of Englishmen" is not your 
so-called "right" for those in power to conscript you into a standing 
army. Even the dissent of the SC said that is nonsense.

> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html> 
> OR <
> https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
> -----
> A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
> American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
> yields 281 instances of the phrase ā€œbear arms.ā€ BYU’s Corpus of Early 
> Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
> 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
> that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of ā€œbear armsā€ in the 17th 
> and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
> organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
> meaning of ā€œbear armsā€ in the framers’ day was military. But we 
> shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. ā€œBear armsā€ has never worked 
> comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
> target practice.
> -----
> 
>>> It also notes that "the Second Amendment right is not unlimited" and 
>>> specifically states "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon 
>>> whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose" and 
>>> that this does not mean we cannot have "laws forbidding the carrying 
>>> of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government 
>>> buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the 
>>> commercial sale of arms" and it "finds support in the historical 
>>> tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons".
>>
>> Finding support in historical tradition is hardly proof of 
>> constitutionality. 
> 
> The fact it was not challenged suggests that people of the time did not 
> see it as a violation of the second amendment, but, sure, it is not 
> proof of such.

Means no such thing. If I don't challenge you then does that mean I 
agree with your interpretations of these things? No.

>> There is tradition of putting Citizens in concentration camps and 
>> using army to dispel those peaceably assembled for redress of 
>> grievances. Doesn't make those rights invalid.
> 
> Those things were challenged. Heavily. Does not mean they stopped them, 
> at least in the short term, but they were challenged.

So in your mind ONLY if something is challenged can one say it may be 
wrong. IN other words your argument is that if you kill some one or rob 
them and get away with it, then there was no crime?

>> Since a rights are defined in the constitution it's obvious that the 
>> very definition is a limitation. But that limitation does not extend 
>> to the arbitrary infringements you seem to be implying.
> 
> Limiting "arms" to "guns" is an arbitrary limitation. Why not include 
> nukes and ricin? Because infringements on arms are necessary and a lack 
> of them would be insane.

Arms are not in any way limited to guns though important because today 
they are a soldier's standard equipment which the second Amendment 
protects just as before swords were and today one can argue that arms 
includes knives and even hand grenades. Note those who ridicule the 2nd 
Amendment saying it should allow people to have Atomic bombs are wrong. 
Today (maybe not tomorrow) atomic bombs are NOT standard equipment 
issued to general soldiers of the day.

> As far as where those limits should be, however, I have no strong 
> opinion. I do back strong background checks tied to a national database, 
> and accountability for gun owners. If your gun is stolen and you fail to 
> report it then you are also tied to whatever crimes it is used in (there 
> should be a reasonable time table for the report).

So you think that registration of citizen and their property is a proper 
function of a free people? This sounds like Bloomberg/Brady 
interpretations of freedom.

> I also am heavily against the blocking of research... does not happen 
> with cars or pools or falling hazards -- but does guns. That is insane.

Should the government be paying for political propaganda disguised as 
'science"? Should those in power be using tax money to generate 
political propaganda for what could well be illegal (unconstitutional) 
laws? This is not OUR system. Do you favor it?

>>> And keep in mind, this is a decision where the SCOTUS redefined the 
>>> second amendment to be more friendly to the modern NRA view.
>>
>> Didn't "redefine" It DEFINED elements that had previously not been 
>> addressed. In particular whether the 2nd amendment applies to the 
>> states. They ruled it did. So sure that is a determination that is 
>> more "NRA-friendly" as you put it. I'd put it as more rights-friendly. 
>> I take it you are opposed to rights.
> 
> I am not opposed to rights but I am against (in general) judicial activism.

Well then we agree on that much, don't we? I call judicial activism 
where courts are used to MAKE laws rather than simply saying if the 
current laws pass muster. IF the SC says a law is garbage, then that law 
is immediately null and void. It's up to those who passed it to pass a 
law that does pass constitutional muster. If the court says nothing, 
that does NOT mean that they side with the current lower court decision. 
It only means they have not spoken on the issue. There are LOTS of 
issues on which they have NOT spoken such as the taxing of a right like 
the machine gun tax.

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