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  Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-07-01 19:42 -0400
    Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-01 16:53 -0700
      Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-07-01 16:55 -0700
      Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-07-01 20:20 -0400
        Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2016-07-01 17:59 -0700
          Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-02 22:11 +1000
        Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-01 20:26 -0700
          Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-09 19:21 +1000
            Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-07-09 09:36 +0000
              Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid> - 2016-07-09 19:52 +1000
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-09 12:16 -0400
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-09 20:30 +0000
          Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-09 14:01 -0700
            Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-09 21:15 +0000
              Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 14:24 -0400
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-10 12:32 -0700
                  Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 22:44 +0000
                    Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-07-10 15:53 -0700
                Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-10 22:42 +0000
                  Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-11 05:39 -0400
                    Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-11 20:45 +0000
                      Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-12 05:23 -0400
                        Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-12 20:19 +0000
    Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards kensi <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-05 11:03 -0400
      Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2016-07-05 21:32 +0000

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#59167 — Re: WINNERS - June 2016 Usenet Kook Awards

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> wrote:

----------
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog-Whistle Award

Named in honour of the skilful dog-trainer who became a British TV 
personality in the 1980s, this award is given jointly to the best trained 
net.kook in any given month and to his or her trainer. Possible examples 
of good training include obedience to one's owner's commands to reply to 
posts, and devotion in following one's owner around from group to group 
and through the Google archive. House-training, which, regrettably, is a 
rare accomplishment for a kook, isn't a prerequisite. Woof.
----------

And the winners are: kensi (trainer) and Greg Hall (trainee)!

They were nominated by me in <nkplfp$94t$85@dont-email.me>, for kensi 
getting Gagglz to froth on cue about free news servers' alleged evils, 
and for kensi causing Gweerrgl to shill for Chris Caputo on cue.

Congratulations, kensi! You may not have won this one last month but you 
persevered.




**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88


Typical demonstration of the flawed female brain. Proof that females
are incapable of understanding simple logic.

I told Nadegda in as simple a way as I could so she might have a 
chance of understanding, but, apparently, even that was too difficult
for her typical, relatively small and illogical female brain to 
cope with.

It appears that MUST be the case as otherwise only wilfulness may
explain the FACT that she knew damned well that I did NOT respond
because kensi blew a dog whistle. Rather, I responded because I 
read kensi's simpleton ROT13 and just couldn't resist rubbing her
face in her own doodoo so that makes me the trainer and kensi is 
the dog.

So, this being the case I REJECT as flawed your stupid award. 
Furthermore, what little respect I had for you as PRETEND Usenet
Lady and Mistress is swirling down my actual and real flush
toilet that I posted PROOF of.

My dear readers, can I help it if these two females are so bent upon 
demonstrating in public how a small and illogical female brain operates?  
Perhaps, I should give them a bit of a break, however, as evolution has 
clearly caused them to be barely functional in the brain department.

Hundreds of thousands of years of females staying close to their
caves while the men were out providing for them have served to 
evolve away any need for logic and spatial understanding. Indeed, 
these two items go hand in hand as logic is spatial in nature at
its very core. 

So, even though I reject this dumb and flawed presentation of the
Woodhouse Award, I understand the cause and actually rejoice in
the fact that females are lost and illogical due to evolution, 
the reason being is it makes them easier prey when a man needs
a good fuck. After all, a fully-functional brain in a female 
would only serve to detract from their main purpose which is 
being a helpmate to a man and for bearing his progeny. 




-- 

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

"It is my learned opinion that a man
should not mince words just to spare
the sensibilities of the thin-skinned
or the ignorant."

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#59168

In article <snudnbds8erfia1s58jkeagikvgiteikgq@4ax.com>, 
greghall@yacht_master.fake says...


> 
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> 
> ----------
> Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog-Whistle Award
> 
> Named in honour of the skilful dog-trainer who became a British TV 
> personality in the 1980s, this award is given jointly to the best trained 
> net.kook in any given month and to his or her trainer. Possible examples 
> of good training include obedience to one's owner's commands to reply to 
> posts, and devotion in following one's owner around from group to group 
> and through the Google archive. House-training, which, regrettably, is a 
> rare accomplishment for a kook, isn't a prerequisite. Woof.
> ----------
> 
> And the winners are: kensi (trainer) and Greg Hall (trainee)!
> 
> They were nominated by me in <nkplfp$94t$85@dont-email.me>, for kensi 
> getting Gagglz to froth on cue about free news servers' alleged evils, 
> and for kensi causing Gweerrgl to shill for Chris Caputo on cue.
> 
> Congratulations, kensi! You may not have won this one last month but you 
> persevered.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> **88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88
> 
> 
> Typical demonstration of the flawed female brain. Proof that females
> are incapable of understanding simple logic.
> 
> I told Nadegda in as simple a way as I could so she might have a 
> chance of understanding, but, apparently, even that was too difficult
> for her typical, relatively small and illogical female brain to 
> cope with.
> 
> It appears that MUST be the case as otherwise only wilfulness may
> explain the FACT that she knew damned well that I did NOT respond
> because kensi blew a dog whistle. Rather, I responded because I 
> read kensi's simpleton ROT13 and just couldn't resist rubbing her
> face in her own doodoo so that makes me the trainer and kensi is 
> the dog.
> 
> So, this being the case I REJECT as flawed your stupid award. 
> Furthermore, what little respect I had for you as PRETEND Usenet
> Lady and Mistress is swirling down my actual and real flush
> toilet that I posted PROOF of.
> 
> My dear readers, can I help it if these two females are so bent upon 
> demonstrating in public how a small and illogical female brain operates?  
> Perhaps, I should give them a bit of a break, however, as evolution has 
> clearly caused them to be barely functional in the brain department.
> 
> Hundreds of thousands of years of females staying close to their
> caves while the men were out providing for them have served to 
> evolve away any need for logic and spatial understanding. Indeed, 
> these two items go hand in hand as logic is spatial in nature at
> its very core. 
> 
> So, even though I reject this dumb and flawed presentation of the
> Woodhouse Award, I understand the cause and actually rejoice in
> the fact that females are lost and illogical due to evolution, 
> the reason being is it makes them easier prey when a man needs
> a good fuck. After all, a fully-functional brain in a female 
> would only serve to detract from their main purpose which is 
> being a helpmate to a man and for bearing his progeny. 

You'll be slurping Nads again in a few days, just like always.  That's 
why you don't get any respect around here.

-- 

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AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Vote  (Post-Burnore)
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
Copyright © 2016 
all rights reserved 

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#59169

x-no-archive: yes

On 7/1/2016 4:53 PM, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> In article <snudnbds8erfia1s58jkeagikvgiteikgq@4ax.com>,
> greghall@yacht_master.fake says...

>> So, even though I reject this dumb and flawed presentation of the
>> Woodhouse Award, I understand the cause and actually rejoice in
>> the fact that females are lost and illogical due to evolution,
>> the reason being is it makes them easier prey when a man needs
>> a good fuck. After all, a fully-functional brain in a female
>> would only serve to detract from their main purpose which is
>> being a helpmate to a man and for bearing his progeny.
>
> You'll be slurping Nads again in a few days, just like always.  That's
> why you don't get any respect around here.


Did you see me tell her off?

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#59170

On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:53:49 -0700, "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
>In article <snudnbds8erfia1s58jkeagikvgiteikgq@4ax.com>, 
>greghall@yacht_master.fake says...
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> ----------
>> Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog-Whistle Award
>> 
>> Named in honour of the skilful dog-trainer who became a British TV 
>> personality in the 1980s, this award is given jointly to the best trained 
>> net.kook in any given month and to his or her trainer. Possible examples 
>> of good training include obedience to one's owner's commands to reply to 
>> posts, and devotion in following one's owner around from group to group 
>> and through the Google archive. House-training, which, regrettably, is a 
>> rare accomplishment for a kook, isn't a prerequisite. Woof.
>> ----------
>> 
>> And the winners are: kensi (trainer) and Greg Hall (trainee)!
>> 
>> They were nominated by me in <nkplfp$94t$85@dont-email.me>, for kensi 
>> getting Gagglz to froth on cue about free news servers' alleged evils, 
>> and for kensi causing Gweerrgl to shill for Chris Caputo on cue.
>> 
>> Congratulations, kensi! You may not have won this one last month but you 
>> persevered.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88
>> 
>> 
>> Typical demonstration of the flawed female brain. Proof that females
>> are incapable of understanding simple logic.
>> 
>> I told Nadegda in as simple a way as I could so she might have a 
>> chance of understanding, but, apparently, even that was too difficult
>> for her typical, relatively small and illogical female brain to 
>> cope with.
>> 
>> It appears that MUST be the case as otherwise only wilfulness may
>> explain the FACT that she knew damned well that I did NOT respond
>> because kensi blew a dog whistle. Rather, I responded because I 
>> read kensi's simpleton ROT13 and just couldn't resist rubbing her
>> face in her own doodoo so that makes me the trainer and kensi is 
>> the dog.
>> 
>> So, this being the case I REJECT as flawed your stupid award. 
>> Furthermore, what little respect I had for you as PRETEND Usenet
>> Lady and Mistress is swirling down my actual and real flush
>> toilet that I posted PROOF of.
>> 
>> My dear readers, can I help it if these two females are so bent upon 
>> demonstrating in public how a small and illogical female brain operates?  
>> Perhaps, I should give them a bit of a break, however, as evolution has 
>> clearly caused them to be barely functional in the brain department.
>> 
>> Hundreds of thousands of years of females staying close to their
>> caves while the men were out providing for them have served to 
>> evolve away any need for logic and spatial understanding. Indeed, 
>> these two items go hand in hand as logic is spatial in nature at
>> its very core. 
>> 
>> So, even though I reject this dumb and flawed presentation of the
>> Woodhouse Award, I understand the cause and actually rejoice in
>> the fact that females are lost and illogical due to evolution, 
>> the reason being is it makes them easier prey when a man needs
>> a good fuck. After all, a fully-functional brain in a female 
>> would only serve to detract from their main purpose which is 
>> being a helpmate to a man and for bearing his progeny. 
>
>You'll be slurping Nads again in a few days, just like always.  That's 
>why you don't get any respect around here.

I get a great deal more respect than you do because I
don't blindly support somebody and embrace ALL their
hate and anger like you do. 

I am capable of loving the individual while rejecting
all that is untenable about that individual. I maintain
this is the mature and sensible way to operate. It is
also the Christian way. Perhaps you should try it?




-- 

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.

"It is my learned opinion that a man
should not mince words just to spare
the sensibilities of the thin-skinned
or the ignorant."

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#59171

x-no-archive: yes

On 7/1/2016 5:20 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

> I get a great deal more respect than you do because I
> don't blindly support somebody and embrace ALL their
> hate and anger like you do.
>
> I am capable of loving the individual while rejecting
> all that is untenable about that individual. I maintain
> this is the mature and sensible way to operate. It is
> also the Christian way. Perhaps you should try it?

That seems to be the theme around here - you either have to 100% support 
someone or 100% hate them.  Some folks missed the memo that the world 
isn't binary.

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#59213

Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
//
>That seems to be the theme around here - you either have to 100% support 
>someone or 100% hate them.  Some folks missed the memo that the world 
>isn't binary.

 In yore rationale just where does " IDGAFF" fit?


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#59174

In article <c12enb552kf7kuneve9fhpksshlpvpbeqp@4ax.com>, 
greghall@yacht_master.fake says...


> 
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 16:53:49 -0700, "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> wrote:
> >In article <snudnbds8erfia1s58jkeagikvgiteikgq@4ax.com>, 
> >greghall@yacht_master.fake says...
> >> On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:46:05 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> >> 
> >> ----------
> >> Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog-Whistle Award
> >> 
> >> Named in honour of the skilful dog-trainer who became a British TV 
> >> personality in the 1980s, this award is given jointly to the best trained 
> >> net.kook in any given month and to his or her trainer. Possible examples 
> >> of good training include obedience to one's owner's commands to reply to 
> >> posts, and devotion in following one's owner around from group to group 
> >> and through the Google archive. House-training, which, regrettably, is a 
> >> rare accomplishment for a kook, isn't a prerequisite. Woof.
> >> ----------
> >> 
> >> And the winners are: kensi (trainer) and Greg Hall (trainee)!
> >> 
> >> They were nominated by me in <nkplfp$94t$85@dont-email.me>, for kensi 
> >> getting Gagglz to froth on cue about free news servers' alleged evils, 
> >> and for kensi causing Gweerrgl to shill for Chris Caputo on cue.
> >> 
> >> Congratulations, kensi! You may not have won this one last month but you 
> >> persevered.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> **88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88**88
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Typical demonstration of the flawed female brain. Proof that females
> >> are incapable of understanding simple logic.
> >> 
> >> I told Nadegda in as simple a way as I could so she might have a 
> >> chance of understanding, but, apparently, even that was too difficult
> >> for her typical, relatively small and illogical female brain to 
> >> cope with.
> >> 
> >> It appears that MUST be the case as otherwise only wilfulness may
> >> explain the FACT that she knew damned well that I did NOT respond
> >> because kensi blew a dog whistle. Rather, I responded because I 
> >> read kensi's simpleton ROT13 and just couldn't resist rubbing her
> >> face in her own doodoo so that makes me the trainer and kensi is 
> >> the dog.
> >> 
> >> So, this being the case I REJECT as flawed your stupid award. 
> >> Furthermore, what little respect I had for you as PRETEND Usenet
> >> Lady and Mistress is swirling down my actual and real flush
> >> toilet that I posted PROOF of.
> >> 
> >> My dear readers, can I help it if these two females are so bent upon 
> >> demonstrating in public how a small and illogical female brain operates?  
> >> Perhaps, I should give them a bit of a break, however, as evolution has 
> >> clearly caused them to be barely functional in the brain department.
> >> 
> >> Hundreds of thousands of years of females staying close to their
> >> caves while the men were out providing for them have served to 
> >> evolve away any need for logic and spatial understanding. Indeed, 
> >> these two items go hand in hand as logic is spatial in nature at
> >> its very core. 
> >> 
> >> So, even though I reject this dumb and flawed presentation of the
> >> Woodhouse Award, I understand the cause and actually rejoice in
> >> the fact that females are lost and illogical due to evolution, 
> >> the reason being is it makes them easier prey when a man needs
> >> a good fuck. After all, a fully-functional brain in a female 
> >> would only serve to detract from their main purpose which is 
> >> being a helpmate to a man and for bearing his progeny. 
> >
> >You'll be slurping Nads again in a few days, just like always.  That's 
> >why you don't get any respect around here.
> 
> I get a great deal more respect than you do because I
> don't blindly support somebody and embrace ALL their
> hate and anger like you do. 
> 
> I am capable of loving the individual while rejecting
> all that is untenable about that individual. I maintain
> this is the mature and sensible way to operate. It is
> also the Christian way. Perhaps you should try it?

Fuck that x-tian bullshit.

-- 

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AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Vote  (Post-Burnore)
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
Copyright © 2016 
all rights reserved 

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#59576

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

>Probably the better place to discuss this is in alt.atheism, but I 
>wouldn't mind discussing this bit of philosophy here. :)

/rolls eyes



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#59579

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 19:21:57 +1000, BBB DoW #14 wrote:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> 
>>Probably the better place to discuss this is in alt.atheism, but I
>>wouldn't mind discussing this bit of philosophy here. :)
> 
> /rolls eyes

Why?

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#59582

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 19:21:57 +1000, BBB DoW #14 wrote:
>
>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>Probably the better place to discuss this is in alt.atheism, but I
>>>wouldn't mind discussing this bit of philosophy here. :)
>> 
>> /rolls eyes
>
>Why?

errrm..
haven't you heard?
over in AUK more than one k00k is awaiting the second coming.
such 'talk' as your proposal would cause brain aneurysms, or at least
a wholly spasmodic convulsion producing scores of kittens.

MEOW


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#59590

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 05:52:03 -0400, BBB DoW #14 <r0llinThru@none.invalid>  
wrote:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 19:21:57 +1000, BBB DoW #14 wrote:
>>
>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Probably the better place to discuss this is in alt.atheism, but I
>>>> wouldn't mind discussing this bit of philosophy here. :)
>>>
>>> /rolls eyes
>>
>> Why?
>
> errrm..
> haven't you heard?
> over in AUK more than one k00k is awaiting the second coming.
> such 'talk' as your proposal would cause brain aneurysms, or at least
> a wholly spasmodic convulsion producing scores of kittens.
>
> MEOW
>
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3nGnhKKDNM

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noun
the part of a wall that encloses the end of a pitched roof.
a wall topped with a gable.
noun: gable end; plural noun: gable ends
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Gable
Gabled roofs are the kind young children typically draw. They have two
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The slant, or pitch, of the gables varies, an inconsistency that many
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Beaten by the queen of Pembroke each time
Have you heard about the lotusLoser
He's a loser, but he still keeps on tryin'

Oohoohooh oooh

Sit down, take a look at yourself
Don't you want to be somebody
Someday somebody's gonna see inside
You have to face up, you can't run and hide

Have you heard about the lotusLoser
Beaten by the queen of Pembroke each time
Have you heard about the lotusLoser
He's a loser, but he still keeps on tryin'

Unlucky in love, least that's what they say
He lost his head and he gabled his heart away
He still keeps posting though there's nothing left
Staked his heart and lost, now he has to pay the cost

Have you heard about the lotusLoser
Beaten by the queen of Pembroke each time
Have you heard about the lotusLoser
He's a loser, but he still keeps on cryin'

"Fag. LOL", he smiles and says
Though this RMS is driving him crazy
He don't show what goes on in his head
But if you watch very close you'll see it all

Sit down, take a look at yourself
Don't you want to be somebody
Someday somebody's gonna see inside
You have to face up, you can't run and hide

Have you heard about the lotusLoser
Beaten by the queen of Pembroke each time
Have you heard about the lotusLoser
He's a loser, but he still keeps on cryin'

Have you heard about the lotusLoser
Have you heard about the lotusLoser
Have you heard about the lotusLoser
Now tell me have you heard about the lotusLoser

-

LOL

well i guess if we went to:

http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/color-summarizer/

and gave it the URL to the image THAT YOU POSTED IN POST:
<617072d3bd042b9634ebeb7c28503997@dizum.com>

<http://i.imgur.com/gchDiBs.png>

I took that on my way to eat lunch. I tried to make an index card with
backward writing so the SPANKY-SPANKY! reflection would show up with
frontward writing, but apparently I can't write backward legibly, so
you gets what you gets."

it would say "definitely not green", right???

http://i.imgur.com/1CkNIDC.png

D'OH!!!!

*SPNAKITY-SPNAKITY*

-

"People didn't cause the Great Depression, Liberal ko0kTarD. Governmental  
policy did." - Fakey in MID <7880b90ad2ecebe35ba01b4557597d80%40dizum.com>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Great_Depression
"The initial stock market crash triggered a "panic sell-off" that made the  
stock market go even lower."

so... so the "government" panicked, snickers?

funny that a bona-fide conservative horatio alger hero type would want the  
government stepping in to save the stock market.

"Current theories may be broadly classified into two main points of view  
and several heterodox points of view.

First, there are demand-driven theories, from Keynesian and institutional  
economists who argue that the depression was caused by a widespread loss  
of confidence that led to underconsumption. The demand-driven theories  
argue that the financial crisis following the 1929 crash led to a sudden  
and persistent reduction in consumption and investment spending.[1] Once  
panic and deflation set in, many people believed they could avoid further  
losses by keeping clear of the markets. Holding money therefore became  
profitable as prices dropped lower and a given amount of money bought ever  
more goods, exacerbating the drop in demand.

Second, there are the monetarists, who believe that the Great Depression  
started as an ordinary recession, but that significant policy mistakes by  
monetary authorities (especially the Federal Reserve), caused a shrinking  
of the money supply which greatly exacerbated the economic situation,  
causing a recession to descend into the Great Depression. Related to this  
explanation are those who point to debt deflation causing those who borrow  
to owe ever more in real terms."

wait?  what?  no major "third" konservative k0okTheory blaming the  
government for everything mentioned?

odd, that.  eh, lotusLoser?

-

the never-ending saga of fakey's "lotus"...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160408001051/http://i.imgur.com/e3OrQSq.png

-

"sines, sines, everywhere there's sines
blocking up the snickerTurds, breaking his mind"
http://i.imgur.com/Z4p1Z55.png

-

FNVWe attempts to rewrite physics texts in Message-ID:  
<3dcad3dd0a0d39727506717506883c26@dizum.com>

">>let's not forget that mine also had the correct applied mathematics
>> equations unlike fakey the supposed know-it-all:
>>  phase A: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x)
>> phase B: 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi)
>>  voltage difference between phase A and phase B at any point x in time:
>> 120*sin(2*pi*60*x) - 120*sin(2*pi*60*x+pi) = 240*sin(2*pi*60*x)

Wrong, as has already been proven. What does it say below, you fecking  
*moron*?

"The _sum_ E(θ) ≡ E(a) + E(b) can be written thusly:""

it says that you don't even know how to correctly apply mathematics to  
real-world AC electricity, snickerTurds.  it says that you're in denial  
about the inversion of your AC legs.

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-10/single-phase-power-systems/
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02170.png
"To mathematically calculate voltage between “hot” wires, we must subtract  
voltages, because their polarity marks show them to be opposed to each  
other:"
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/12112.png

http://www.samlexamerica.com/support/documents/WhitePaper-120240VACSingleSplitPhaseandMultiWireBranchCircuits.pdf

on page 2:

** NOTE: The phase of Hot Leg 2 (Phase B) is in the
  opposite direction - i.e., 180° apart from the phase
  of Hot Leg L1 (Phase A)

*COUGH*
SPNAK!!

-

i know a guy on the internet who will draw a triangular sine wave in ASCII  
art if you ask nicely.</GROUCHO MARX>
see: Message-ID: <4ba4a50aaaebc7fb8a348293c5cf9f13@dizum.com>

-

snickerTurds can't seem to refute the following:

- begin snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --
/*
HOW TO RUN: download arbitrary precision libraries from:

http://www.hvks.com/Numerical/arbitrary_precision.html

place those files in a directory and save this file as  
snickerSinewaveStew.cpp inside that same directory.

compiles with:

gcc -Wall -I. precisioncore.cpp snickerSinewaveStew.cpp -lstdc++

run with:

./a.out

enjoy the LULZ ;)

*/
#include <fprecision.h>
#include <iostream.h>

using namespace std;

int main(){

   //float_precision MIN=float_precision(0);
   //float_precision MAX=float_precision(0);

   float_precision STEP=float_precision(.0001);
   float_precision t=float_precision(0);    // time variable
   float_precision sum=float_precision(0);  // sum of SnickerTurd's  
ridiculous sinewave mess
   float_precision snickerPrediction=float_precision(2550.25);  //  
snickerTurd's erroneous k0oK-k'lame Sum
   float_precision PI;
   PI =_float_table(_PI,25);

   // this while loop will run forever, but snickers doesn't understand why
   while(sum < snickerPrediction){

     // fakey's Sinewave Stew(TM) see: MID:  
<db672705e57e4932eba3632562e0a941@dizum.com>
     sum = (float_precision(150) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(120)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(20.25) * float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(33)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(1400)* float_precision(  
sin(float_precision(150)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +(float_precision(20)*  
float_precision(sin(float_precision(5013)*float_precision(2)*PI*t))) +  
(float_precision(600)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(13)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)))  
+  
(float_precision(360)*float_precision(sin(float_precision(1209)*float_precision(2)*PI*t)));

     // perhaps show a few values larger than +2300 to educate teh  
snickerTurds
     if(sum>float_precision(2300)){
       cout << "t=" << t << " sum=" << sum << std::endl;
     }
     t = t+STEP;
   }
/*

Message-ID: <c8523e6d9c31e3282bbe581fa525a2a8@dizum.com>
"Oh, yeah... it's 2550.25 volts... so why does your graph not even
reach 2500 volts, given that eventually all the sinewaves will
constructively interfere (ie: *add* to each other) to *sum* to 2550.25
volts?"

Fakey, it doesn't reach 2500 volts because the summation of your sinewaves  
never reaches that.  They never reach their max values at the same time.   
That's how stupid you are.

Message-ID: <731d08dcc702b9a8a13077ffc201e91f@dizum.com>
"I most certainly *did* prove otherwise. It can't even arrive at the
correct sinewave summation voltage of 2550.25 volts"

Fakey, you only *proved* that you are too inept to graph the equations and  
notice a few things about the interactions of their frequencies when  
summed.

the next line of code is never executed, but snickers DEFINITELY can't  
figure out why it isn't and instead has a bunch of lame excuses while  
still having not produced a value for t where the sum=2550.25, as he has  
k0okily proklamed in many usenet messages that are archived FOREVER.

*/
   cout << "snickerTurds was right! the sum is " << sum << " at time t=" <<  
t <<endl;
}
- end snickerSinewaveStew.cpp --

-

Fakey irrationally demands a theme song to foam to:
"all I really want your pathetic pwned ass to do is write me a classic  
rock song as tribute to your Usenet Lord and Master..."  
<f4f9193fa7d28b760a9de681e61427e7@dizum.com>

-

Somewhere Abouts Round Fri, 12 Feb 2016 17:25:03 -0500, Friendly  
Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote:

<snicker>

Fag. LOL
Idiot. LOL
Moron. LOL
Tranny. LOL
Libtard. LOL
Crackhead. LOL
GableTard. LOL
DildoRider. LOL
Bad Musician. LOL
Stick Figure. LOL
Terrible Liar. LOL
Sinewave Spammer. LOL
Outerfilthing Stalker. LOL
Talentless FrothMonkey. LOL
Math Challenged Halfwit. LOL
Klimate Katastrophe Kook. LOL
Defeated Tearful Spankard. LOL
Waster Of Time To Save $10. LOL
Worst Maker Of Sinewaves In The History Of Usenet. LOL

<the band strikes up a rousing version of "on top of old smokey">

on top of old snick-ers, all covered with Fag. LOL
is where my usenet lord and mas-ter
can go straight to hell*

*hell doesn't exist.  hope everybody is having a productive evening.

-

http://i.imgur.com/2tH6zVB.jpg

http://cafepress.com/kooktown

http://i.imgur.com/pnWqhSG.jpg

-

If my poasts are offensive to you, you can always block all From: headers  
containing "root@127.0.0.1", unless you are an idiot who would like to  
yammer about "morphing" and maybe try to lodge some frivolous complaints  
to my news provider, then please be sure to ignore this helpful  
information and have fun making an ass of yourself in public.  :)

if that route of silencing those horrid opinions of mine that you  
downloaded to your computer under duress doesn't work you can always try:  
http://i.imgur.com/jlsN9JX.png?2

-

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
The Gish Gallop is often used as an indirect argument from authority — as  
it appears to paint the galloper as an expert in a broad range of subjects  
or with an extensive knowledge of an individual one. Simultaneously it  
presents opponents (in spoken debates) or refuters (in written,  
Internet-based ones) as incompetent bumblers who didn't do their homework  
before the debate. Such emphasis on style over substance is the reason  
many scientists disdain public debates as a forum for disseminating  
opinions. - Page #1 from the Gospel of SnickerTurd

-

Coming soon!  To a newsgroup near you!:

$ perl fakeyBot.pl
FakeyBot>       I'm FakeyBot. What's your name so I can Google-stalk you,  
look you up on Radaris, and hurl invective and probably-illegal harrassing  
bile from behind an anonymous dizum account?  <snicker>
You>    Robert Michael Wolfe
FakeyBot>       Oh look, you're back again to polish my size 16 steel-toed  
boot with your colon and listen to me talk about bestiality and cocks,  
Robert. <snicker>
Robert> you talk about cocks a lot.
FakeyBot>       Oh, I talk about sex a lot?
Robert> gay sex, mostly...
FakeyBot>       Fag!

(just as useful as the original!)

-

snickers the wonderturd describes how he alerted lots of his kiddie pr0n  
friends to the ensuing FBI sting in message  
<b5e7da79a455d0c9227b1b50e25e7ea1@dizum.com>:
"That's easy enough to do... how do you think my crew uncovered the
largest CP ring using Tor and I2P, which we promptly turned over to
the FBI? I discovered a way to uncover the IP addresses the I2P users were  
using, and a way of tracking Eepsites back to their IP addresses, then we  
figured out that we could DDOS a Tor IP address and modify Tor headers  
while checking whether a Tor hidden service was still up, then using  
process of elimination to pinpoint the IP address hosting that hidden  
service. It's not rocket science.

_The I2P community got all up in arms when I discussed on their forum how  
I was doing it, and that it'd be a good way of cleaning up I2P so it can  
get on with being a platform to research anonymous communication... my  
distinct impression was that the "anonymity
research platform" story was just a cover story to allow pervs to
trade CP._  (NOTE: admits to participating in what he "suspected" was a  
kiddie pr0n network.)

That Silk Road 2.0 was taken offline in the ensuing FBI Operation
Onymous was just icing on the cake."

-

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

 

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#59603

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 19:52:03 +1000, BBB DoW #14 (Pie Gurl) PiG@yahoo.com 
WINNER - Kook of the Year 2012 wrote:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 19:21:57 +1000, BBB DoW #14 wrote:
>>
>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>Probably the better place to discuss this is in alt.atheism, but I
>>>>wouldn't mind discussing this bit of philosophy here. :)
>>> 
>>> /rolls eyes
>>
>>Why?
> 
> errrm..
> haven't you heard?
> over in AUK more than one k00k is awaiting the second coming. such
> 'talk' as your proposal would cause brain aneurysms, or at least a
> wholly spasmodic convulsion producing scores of kittens.
> 
> MEOW

And vallor should care about your opinion here because?

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#59617

In article <nlrmrj$lqb$15@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid 
says...


> I've heard something similar from exactly one other person in all my 
> puff ... and that person was kensi.
> 
> Mind you, she's also apparently figured out most of why the universe 
> looks the way it does and wrestled a bunch of other thorny philosophical 
> conundrums to the ground. Something to do with anthropics and a "Tegmark 
> multiverse", IIRC. She says it proves, to a high degree of confidence, 
> that a) there's no God and b) it's not all a dream/solipsist/etc. "all in 
> our heads" sort of deal either.
> 
> Which reminds me, I need to ask her what she has to say about Bostrom's 
> simulation argument. That might throw a monkey wrench into some of her 
> arguments.
> 

I'm amused by the fact that the more physicists "know," the more they 
don't know.  Now we have "dark matter" and "dark energy," which are only 
inferred based on observations and theories that can't be proven, 
because the only observable data is the rate that the universe is 
"apparently" expanding.  Then we have the "multiverse" theorists who are 
blowing suppositions right out their asses...

Here's what it boils down to:  The human species will destroy itself 
with its own hubris long before those answers are forthcoming.  Life 
carries no more importance than we choose to give it... then we die.  
Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous Universal phase change to 
be the next DoW.  (for those of you who "get" that)

-- 

Checkmate, AUK DoW #1, new Honorary FNVW of AUK, and Fakey's master
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Vote  (Post-Burnore)
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
Copyright © 2016 
all rights reserved 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyBYSuqQBQ&feature=youtu.be

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#59618

On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:01:38 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:

> In article <nlrmrj$lqb$15@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid
> says...
> 
> 
>> I've heard something similar from exactly one other person in all my
>> puff ... and that person was kensi.
>> 
>> Mind you, she's also apparently figured out most of why the universe
>> looks the way it does and wrestled a bunch of other thorny
>> philosophical conundrums to the ground. Something to do with anthropics
>> and a "Tegmark multiverse", IIRC. She says it proves, to a high degree
>> of confidence, that a) there's no God and b) it's not all a
>> dream/solipsist/etc. "all in our heads" sort of deal either.
>> 
>> Which reminds me, I need to ask her what she has to say about Bostrom's
>> simulation argument. That might throw a monkey wrench into some of her
>> arguments.
>> 
>> 
> I'm amused by the fact that the more physicists "know," the more they
> don't know.  Now we have "dark matter" and "dark energy," which are only
> inferred based on observations and theories that can't be proven,
> because the only observable data is the rate that the universe is
> "apparently" expanding.  Then we have the "multiverse" theorists who are
> blowing suppositions right out their asses...
> 
> Here's what it boils down to:  The human species will destroy itself
> with its own hubris long before those answers are forthcoming.  Life
> carries no more importance than we choose to give it... then we die.
> Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous Universal phase change to
> be the next DoW.  (for those of you who "get" that)

Pessimist.

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#59671

On 09/07/2016 5:15 PM, Nadegda wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:01:38 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>> Here's what it boils down to:  The human species will destroy itself
>> with its own hubris long before those answers are forthcoming.  Life
>> carries no more importance than we choose to give it... then we die.
>> Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous Universal phase change to
>> be the next DoW.  (for those of you who "get" that)
>
> Pessimist.

Higgs field collapse in our lifetimes is *highly* improbable. If natural 
forces (e.g. supernovae; energetic events around neutron stars and black 
holes; etc.) could trigger it the odds of it happening within any 
particular narrow window of time are tiny; more likely it happens long 
after we're dead or would have happened long before humans even evolved 
than that it happens in the next, say, 50 years.

As for artificially triggered, if it hasn't happened naturally yet it's 
hard for even very high energy events such as the astrophysical ones 
noted above to set one off, and nothing in our technology is projected 
to be able to throw that kind of energy around in the foreseeable 
future. That leaves only the option of "it takes finesse": what random 
high energy particle-crackups takes many billions of years to eventually 
accomplish by chance can be accomplished quickly, reliably, and at much 
lower energy by doing something precise and tricky.

In that case, setting one off would be like building a Toyota: no matter 
how many times Fords are crashed into lampposts you won't see a Toyota 
spontaneously assembled from the parts, but if you set about crafting 
one intentionally, it's not that hard. But if that's possible with a 
Higgs collapse, to set one off we'd probably have to know enough about 
quantum gravity and grand unified theories that we'd *know that was the 
consequence* of whatever we were doing. You can crash a Ford without 
knowing much about how to build cars, but you can't assemble a Toyota 
without that knowledge.

So, the only way it's likely to happen within our lifetimes is if 
someone sets one off *on purpose*, rather than as an unintended 
consequence of a physics experiment. Meaning some doomsday cult or 
something. But I'd bet on germ warfare as the biggest threat from those 
sorts of l00ns, not high energy physics stuff we haven't even invented 
yet. And likely won't -- unlike nukes, this hypothetical thing would 
have no potential use as a weapon of war, as its use would be suicide.

Its only possible use would be as a terror threat used as a deterrent, 
but the downside if it accidentally got triggered is so huge no sane 
country would build one for that purpose. And before you say "Dr. 
Strangelove", keep in mind that if any *other* civilization out there 
had built one and set it off anytime in the past 13 billion years, we 
wouldn't be here having this discussion right now, so the odds are it 
either can't be done or won't be done even under fairly broad 
assumptions about the psychology of those with access to the big red 
button (broader than even the assumption "has *human* psychology").

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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#59675

In article <nlu3tr$t8v$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01@gmail.invalid 
says...


> 
> On 09/07/2016 5:15 PM, Nadegda wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:01:38 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> >> Here's what it boils down to:  The human species will destroy itself
> >> with its own hubris long before those answers are forthcoming.  Life
> >> carries no more importance than we choose to give it... then we die.
> >> Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous Universal phase change to
> >> be the next DoW.  (for those of you who "get" that)
> >
> > Pessimist.
> 
> Higgs field collapse in our lifetimes is *highly* improbable. If natural 
> forces (e.g. supernovae; energetic events around neutron stars and black 
> holes; etc.) could trigger it the odds of it happening within any 
> particular narrow window of time are tiny; more likely it happens long 
> after we're dead or would have happened long before humans even evolved 
> than that it happens in the next, say, 50 years.
> 
> As for artificially triggered, if it hasn't happened naturally yet it's 
> hard for even very high energy events such as the astrophysical ones 
> noted above to set one off, and nothing in our technology is projected 
> to be able to throw that kind of energy around in the foreseeable 
> future. That leaves only the option of "it takes finesse": what random 
> high energy particle-crackups takes many billions of years to eventually 
> accomplish by chance can be accomplished quickly, reliably, and at much 
> lower energy by doing something precise and tricky.
> 
> In that case, setting one off would be like building a Toyota: no matter 
> how many times Fords are crashed into lampposts you won't see a Toyota 
> spontaneously assembled from the parts, but if you set about crafting 
> one intentionally, it's not that hard. But if that's possible with a 
> Higgs collapse, to set one off we'd probably have to know enough about 
> quantum gravity and grand unified theories that we'd *know that was the 
> consequence* of whatever we were doing. You can crash a Ford without 
> knowing much about how to build cars, but you can't assemble a Toyota 
> without that knowledge.
> 
> So, the only way it's likely to happen within our lifetimes is if 
> someone sets one off *on purpose*, rather than as an unintended 
> consequence of a physics experiment. Meaning some doomsday cult or 
> something. But I'd bet on germ warfare as the biggest threat from those 
> sorts of l00ns, not high energy physics stuff we haven't even invented 
> yet. And likely won't -- unlike nukes, this hypothetical thing would 
> have no potential use as a weapon of war, as its use would be suicide.
> 
> Its only possible use would be as a terror threat used as a deterrent, 
> but the downside if it accidentally got triggered is so huge no sane 
> country would build one for that purpose. And before you say "Dr. 
> Strangelove", keep in mind that if any *other* civilization out there 
> had built one and set it off anytime in the past 13 billion years, we 
> wouldn't be here having this discussion right now, so the odds are it 
> either can't be done or won't be done even under fairly broad 
> assumptions about the psychology of those with access to the big red 
> button (broader than even the assumption "has *human* psychology").

I realize it's the longest of long shots.  We'll destroy ourselves long 
before the next rogue doomsday asteroid is even likely to do it.  I'm 
betting on a plague, or as you mentioned, germ warfare. It's probably 
more likely that a nuclear-disenfranchised nation can develop or steal 
biological WMDs more easily then they'll be able to obtain a lot of 
nukes or a way to deliver them.

It's a sad commentary on the nature of Man, that we conquered smallpox, 
yet still keep that shit around... "just in case 'they' try to use it on 
us".

At any rate, I have to laugh at scientists who constantly discuss how 
we'll eventually go out and colonize Mars, or any other location... as 
if we're going to be around long enough to make that practical. 

Technology has become our master, rather than the slave we envisioned 
back in the 50's and 60's. 

-- 

Checkmate, AUK DoW #1, new Honorary FNVW of AUK, and Fakey's master
AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Vote  (Post-Burnore)
Originator of the "Dance for me" (tm) lame
Copyright © 2016 
all rights reserved 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdyBYSuqQBQ&feature=youtu.be

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#59682

On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:32:31 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:

> In article <nlu3tr$t8v$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01@gmail.invalid
> says...
> 
> 
> 
>> On 09/07/2016 5:15 PM, Nadegda wrote:
>> > On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:01:38 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>> >> Here's what it boils down to:  The human species will destroy itself
>> >> with its own hubris long before those answers are forthcoming.  Life
>> >> carries no more importance than we choose to give it... then we die.
>> >> Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous Universal phase change
>> >> to be the next DoW.  (for those of you who "get" that)
>> >
>> > Pessimist.
>> 
>> Higgs field collapse in our lifetimes is *highly* improbable. If
>> natural forces (e.g. supernovae; energetic events around neutron stars
>> and black holes; etc.) could trigger it the odds of it happening within
>> any particular narrow window of time are tiny; more likely it happens
>> long after we're dead or would have happened long before humans even
>> evolved than that it happens in the next, say, 50 years.
>> 
>> As for artificially triggered, if it hasn't happened naturally yet it's
>> hard for even very high energy events such as the astrophysical ones
>> noted above to set one off, and nothing in our technology is projected
>> to be able to throw that kind of energy around in the foreseeable
>> future. That leaves only the option of "it takes finesse": what random
>> high energy particle-crackups takes many billions of years to
>> eventually accomplish by chance can be accomplished quickly, reliably,
>> and at much lower energy by doing something precise and tricky.
>> 
>> In that case, setting one off would be like building a Toyota: no
>> matter how many times Fords are crashed into lampposts you won't see a
>> Toyota spontaneously assembled from the parts, but if you set about
>> crafting one intentionally, it's not that hard. But if that's possible
>> with a Higgs collapse, to set one off we'd probably have to know enough
>> about quantum gravity and grand unified theories that we'd *know that
>> was the consequence* of whatever we were doing. You can crash a Ford
>> without knowing much about how to build cars, but you can't assemble a
>> Toyota without that knowledge.
>> 
>> So, the only way it's likely to happen within our lifetimes is if
>> someone sets one off *on purpose*, rather than as an unintended
>> consequence of a physics experiment. Meaning some doomsday cult or
>> something. But I'd bet on germ warfare as the biggest threat from those
>> sorts of l00ns, not high energy physics stuff we haven't even invented
>> yet. And likely won't -- unlike nukes, this hypothetical thing would
>> have no potential use as a weapon of war, as its use would be suicide.
>> 
>> Its only possible use would be as a terror threat used as a deterrent,
>> but the downside if it accidentally got triggered is so huge no sane
>> country would build one for that purpose. And before you say "Dr.
>> Strangelove", keep in mind that if any *other* civilization out there
>> had built one and set it off anytime in the past 13 billion years, we
>> wouldn't be here having this discussion right now, so the odds are it
>> either can't be done or won't be done even under fairly broad
>> assumptions about the psychology of those with access to the big red
>> button (broader than even the assumption "has *human* psychology").
> 
> I realize it's the longest of long shots.  We'll destroy ourselves long
> before the next rogue doomsday asteroid is even likely to do it.  I'm
> betting on a plague, or as you mentioned, germ warfare. It's probably
> more likely that a nuclear-disenfranchised nation can develop or steal
> biological WMDs more easily then they'll be able to obtain a lot of
> nukes or a way to deliver them.
> 
> It's a sad commentary on the nature of Man, that we conquered smallpox,
> yet still keep that shit around... "just in case 'they' try to use it on
> us".
> 
> At any rate, I have to laugh at scientists who constantly discuss how
> we'll eventually go out and colonize Mars, or any other location... as
> if we're going to be around long enough to make that practical.
> 
> Technology has become our master, rather than the slave we envisioned
> back in the 50's and 60's.

Pessimist.

And backpedaler, from "Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous 
Universal phase change to be the next DoW."

<snicker>

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#59683

In article <nluj4k$mg6$8@dont-email.me>, nad318b404@gmail.invalid 
says...


> 
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:32:31 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> 
> > In article <nlu3tr$t8v$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01@gmail.invalid
> > says...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 09/07/2016 5:15 PM, Nadegda wrote:
> >> > On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:01:38 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
> >> >> Here's what it boils down to:  The human species will destroy itself
> >> >> with its own hubris long before those answers are forthcoming.  Life
> >> >> carries no more importance than we choose to give it... then we die.
> >> >> Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous Universal phase change
> >> >> to be the next DoW.  (for those of you who "get" that)
> >> >
> >> > Pessimist.
> >> 
> >> Higgs field collapse in our lifetimes is *highly* improbable. If
> >> natural forces (e.g. supernovae; energetic events around neutron stars
> >> and black holes; etc.) could trigger it the odds of it happening within
> >> any particular narrow window of time are tiny; more likely it happens
> >> long after we're dead or would have happened long before humans even
> >> evolved than that it happens in the next, say, 50 years.
> >> 
> >> As for artificially triggered, if it hasn't happened naturally yet it's
> >> hard for even very high energy events such as the astrophysical ones
> >> noted above to set one off, and nothing in our technology is projected
> >> to be able to throw that kind of energy around in the foreseeable
> >> future. That leaves only the option of "it takes finesse": what random
> >> high energy particle-crackups takes many billions of years to
> >> eventually accomplish by chance can be accomplished quickly, reliably,
> >> and at much lower energy by doing something precise and tricky.
> >> 
> >> In that case, setting one off would be like building a Toyota: no
> >> matter how many times Fords are crashed into lampposts you won't see a
> >> Toyota spontaneously assembled from the parts, but if you set about
> >> crafting one intentionally, it's not that hard. But if that's possible
> >> with a Higgs collapse, to set one off we'd probably have to know enough
> >> about quantum gravity and grand unified theories that we'd *know that
> >> was the consequence* of whatever we were doing. You can crash a Ford
> >> without knowing much about how to build cars, but you can't assemble a
> >> Toyota without that knowledge.
> >> 
> >> So, the only way it's likely to happen within our lifetimes is if
> >> someone sets one off *on purpose*, rather than as an unintended
> >> consequence of a physics experiment. Meaning some doomsday cult or
> >> something. But I'd bet on germ warfare as the biggest threat from those
> >> sorts of l00ns, not high energy physics stuff we haven't even invented
> >> yet. And likely won't -- unlike nukes, this hypothetical thing would
> >> have no potential use as a weapon of war, as its use would be suicide.
> >> 
> >> Its only possible use would be as a terror threat used as a deterrent,
> >> but the downside if it accidentally got triggered is so huge no sane
> >> country would build one for that purpose. And before you say "Dr.
> >> Strangelove", keep in mind that if any *other* civilization out there
> >> had built one and set it off anytime in the past 13 billion years, we
> >> wouldn't be here having this discussion right now, so the odds are it
> >> either can't be done or won't be done even under fairly broad
> >> assumptions about the psychology of those with access to the big red
> >> button (broader than even the assumption "has *human* psychology").
> > 
> > I realize it's the longest of long shots.  We'll destroy ourselves long
> > before the next rogue doomsday asteroid is even likely to do it.  I'm
> > betting on a plague, or as you mentioned, germ warfare. It's probably
> > more likely that a nuclear-disenfranchised nation can develop or steal
> > biological WMDs more easily then they'll be able to obtain a lot of
> > nukes or a way to deliver them.
> > 
> > It's a sad commentary on the nature of Man, that we conquered smallpox,
> > yet still keep that shit around... "just in case 'they' try to use it on
> > us".
> > 
> > At any rate, I have to laugh at scientists who constantly discuss how
> > we'll eventually go out and colonize Mars, or any other location... as
> > if we're going to be around long enough to make that practical.
> > 
> > Technology has become our master, rather than the slave we envisioned
> > back in the 50's and 60's.
> 
> Pessimist.

ITYM "Realist".

 
> And backpedaler, from "Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous 
> Universal phase change to be the next DoW."

An obviously factious remark, but I suspect you already knew that.  
Still, I'd find that scenario "interesting"... for about a nanosecond.


> <snicker>

<snicker>



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#59681

On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 14:24:59 -0400, kensi wrote:

> On 09/07/2016 5:15 PM, Nadegda wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:01:38 -0700, Checkmate, DoW #1 wrote:
>>> Here's what it boils down to:  The human species will destroy itself
>>> with its own hubris long before those answers are forthcoming.  Life
>>> carries no more importance than we choose to give it... then we die.
>>> Meanwhile, I'm just waiting for a spontaneous Universal phase change
>>> to be the next DoW.  (for those of you who "get" that)
>>
>> Pessimist.
> 
> Higgs field collapse in our lifetimes is *highly* improbable. If natural
> forces (e.g. supernovae; energetic events around neutron stars and black
> holes; etc.) could trigger it the odds of it happening within any
> particular narrow window of time are tiny; more likely it happens long
> after we're dead or would have happened long before humans even evolved
> than that it happens in the next, say, 50 years.
> 
> As for artificially triggered, if it hasn't happened naturally yet it's
> hard for even very high energy events such as the astrophysical ones
> noted above to set one off, and nothing in our technology is projected
> to be able to throw that kind of energy around in the foreseeable
> future. That leaves only the option of "it takes finesse": what random
> high energy particle-crackups takes many billions of years to eventually
> accomplish by chance can be accomplished quickly, reliably, and at much
> lower energy by doing something precise and tricky.
> 
> In that case, setting one off would be like building a Toyota: no matter
> how many times Fords are crashed into lampposts you won't see a Toyota
> spontaneously assembled from the parts, but if you set about crafting
> one intentionally, it's not that hard. But if that's possible with a
> Higgs collapse, to set one off we'd probably have to know enough about
> quantum gravity and grand unified theories that we'd *know that was the
> consequence* of whatever we were doing. You can crash a Ford without
> knowing much about how to build cars, but you can't assemble a Toyota
> without that knowledge.
> 
> So, the only way it's likely to happen within our lifetimes is if
> someone sets one off *on purpose*, rather than as an unintended
> consequence of a physics experiment. Meaning some doomsday cult or
> something. But I'd bet on germ warfare as the biggest threat from those
> sorts of l00ns, not high energy physics stuff we haven't even invented
> yet. And likely won't -- unlike nukes, this hypothetical thing would
> have no potential use as a weapon of war, as its use would be suicide.
> 
> Its only possible use would be as a terror threat used as a deterrent,
> but the downside if it accidentally got triggered is so huge no sane
> country would build one for that purpose. And before you say "Dr.
> Strangelove", keep in mind that if any *other* civilization out there
> had built one and set it off anytime in the past 13 billion years, we
> wouldn't be here having this discussion right now, so the odds are it
> either can't be done or won't be done even under fairly broad
> assumptions about the psychology of those with access to the big red
> button (broader than even the assumption "has *human* psychology").

Doesn't your own multiverse + anthropics hypothesis throw a monkey wrench 
into that? With that, humans necessarily wake up to find themselves in a 
branch where no earlier civilization set one of these doomsday devices 
off, but that needn't be because one setting one off is impossible or 
even improbable. In fact if most civilizations eventually do this it 
would explain the Fermi paradox. Each one is the first, and last, in its 
Hubble volume, modulo quantum branches.

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#59697

On 10/07/2016 6:42 PM, Nadegda wrote:

> Doesn't your own multiverse + anthropics hypothesis throw a monkey wrench
> into that? With that, humans necessarily wake up to find themselves in a
> branch where no earlier civilization set one of these doomsday devices
> off, but that needn't be because one setting one off is impossible or
> even improbable. In fact if most civilizations eventually do this it
> would explain the Fermi paradox. Each one is the first, and last, in its
> Hubble volume, modulo quantum branches.

Branches arising from the symmetry breaking era that wind up with 
particle physics such that such doomsday devices are easily made at 
relatively low tech levels and commonly get set off by species with 
anger (or delusion) management issues will have lower populations by far 
than branches with physics forbidding such devices or making them 
sufficiently difficult to build. Thus we're much more likely to observe 
one of the latter branches, and should discover that in this region of 
the multiverse, making such devices is hard. (It's probably not 
impossible; that pesky dark energy suggests that our vacuum here is not 
entirely stable.)

-- 
"To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain
the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks
"I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade
in here."                                                     ~Checkmate

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