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Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work?

Started by"William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is>
First post2018-12-22 20:50 +0000
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  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-22 20:50 +0000
    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-22 13:59 -0700
      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 00:35 +0000
        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-23 17:43 -0700
          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 17:25 +0000
            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 10:31 -0700
              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 20:00 +0000
                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 13:02 -0700
                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 21:16 +0000
                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 14:23 -0700
                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 21:46 +0000
                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 14:48 -0700
                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-25 01:09 +0000
                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 18:37 -0700
                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-25 19:58 +0000
                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 13:09 -0700
                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-25 20:46 +0000
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 13:51 -0700
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-25 22:57 +0000
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 15:59 -0700
                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-24 23:43 -0800
                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 05:46 -0700
                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-25 18:25 +0000
                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 11:28 -0700
                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-25 12:36 -0700
                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-25 19:44 +0000
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 12:56 -0700
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-25 19:59 +0000
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-25 13:06 -0700
                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-25 19:44 -0800
                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 06:02 -0700
                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 14:32 +0000
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 07:38 -0700
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 16:23 +0000
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 09:32 -0700
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 17:13 +0000
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 10:15 -0700
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 11:40 -0700
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 11:45 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 11:47 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 11:53 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:57 +0000
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 06:50 +1100
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:13 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:57 +0000
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 12:08 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:12 -0700
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 16:21 -0700
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:57 +0000
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 12:09 -0700
                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-26 11:48 -0800
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 12:50 -0700
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 20:12 +0000
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 07:20 +1100
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 20:59 +0000
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 09:48 +1100
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 22:50 +0000
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 11:11 +1100
                                                  Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 01:23 +0100
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 15:50 -0700
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 23:08 +0000
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 11:22 +1100
                                                    Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 01:38 +0100
                                              Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 00:27 +0100
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:29 -0700
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 16:32 -0700
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 11:31 +1100
                                            Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 01:39 +0100
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 17:40 -0700
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 19:31 -0700
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 14:07 +1100
                                                Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 09:59 +0100
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 15:43 +0000
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 09:21 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 16:58 +0000
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 10:10 -0700
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:16 +0000
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 10:18 -0700
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:31 -0700
                                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:43 +0000
                                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:49 -0700
                                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 18:32 +0000
                                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 11:37 -0700
                                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 11:31 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:10 -0700
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:15 +0000
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:32 -0700
                                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:43 +0000
                                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:48 -0700
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 09:26 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 16:56 +0000
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:08 -0700
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-27 01:02 -0800
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 04:33 -0700
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-27 14:25 +0000
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 09:42 -0700
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-27 18:16 +0000
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 05:50 +1100
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 12:33 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-27 20:12 +0000
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 13:20 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-27 20:13 +0000
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 13:20 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 09:07 +1100
                                                      Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 23:49 +0100
                                                  Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 22:49 +0100
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 12:32 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-27 20:13 +0000
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 13:23 -0700
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 15:42 +0000
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 09:21 -0700
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 09:26 -0700
                                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 16:57 +0000
                                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:09 -0700
                                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:16 +0000
                                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:30 -0700
                                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:44 +0000
                                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:49 -0700
                                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 18:32 +0000
                                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 11:36 -0700
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Terry Casey <k.type@example.invalid> - 2018-12-29 14:32 +0000
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" <bzs@TheWor1d.cam> - 2018-12-26 12:08 -0800
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 20:12 +0000
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 07:19 +1100
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 21:00 +0000
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 09:49 +1100
                                            Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 00:30 +0100
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:31 -0700
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 13:25 -0700
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 20:59 +0000
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 14:16 -0700
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 22:11 +0000
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 15:13 -0700
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 15:20 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 10:02 +1100
                                                    Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 00:31 +0100
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 23:06 +0000
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 16:27 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 15:44 +0000
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 09:28 -0700
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 09:35 -0700
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 16:56 +0000
                                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:08 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 11:17 +1100
                                                    Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 01:25 +0100
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 09:56 +1100
                                                Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 00:32 +0100
                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 14:33 +0000
                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 08:27 -0700
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 15:39 +0000
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 08:40 -0700
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 08:46 -0700
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 08:53 -0700
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 09:31 -0700
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 11:38 -0700
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 11:42 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 11:45 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 11:49 -0700
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:52 +0000
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 12:07 -0700
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:09 -0700
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 16:22 -0700
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:49 +0000
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 11:54 -0700
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:59 +0000
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 16:20 +0000
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 11:39 -0700
                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:59 +0000
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 06:56 +1100
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 22:12 +0000
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 09:58 +1100
                                                    Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-12-27 00:33 +0100
                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:25 -0700
                                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 15:45 +0000
                                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 09:22 -0700
                                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 16:57 +0000
                                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 10:09 -0700
                                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:16 +0000
                                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-28 10:20 -0700
                                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:32 -0700
                                                            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-28 17:43 +0000
                                                              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 10:46 -0700
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 06:07 +1100
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 05:59 +1100
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" <bzs@TheWor1d.cam> - 2018-12-26 07:52 -0800
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 11:37 -0700
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)" <bzs@TheWor1d.cam> - 2018-12-26 10:46 -0800
                                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 22:13 +0000
                                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:34 -0700
                                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 05:55 +1100
                                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-26 18:58 +0000
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-12-27 06:54 +1100
                                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 16:11 -0700
                                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-26 08:21 -0700
        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-23 20:41 -0700
          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 12:08 +0000
            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 05:54 -0700
              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 13:55 +0000
                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 06:57 -0700
                  Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 14:10 +0000
                    Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 07:15 -0700
                      Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 17:24 +0000
                        Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-24 10:30 -0700
                          Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 20:00 +0000
            Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-24 08:58 -0700
              Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? "William Gothberg" <"William Gothberg"@internet.co.is> - 2018-12-24 17:23 +0000
                Re: How [in God's name] can those Chinese water heaters work? William Gothberg <WG@internet.com> - 2018-12-24 10:25 -0700

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#242138

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-27 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<bs01n8.dr6.19.5@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242135
On 2018-12-27 1:12 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:33:39 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-27 11:50 a.m., Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
>>> news:op.zuo01uog7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William 
>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08 
>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26 
>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know 
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful 
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those 
>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean
>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court 
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a 
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug 
>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get 
>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>
>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>
>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>
>>> He's talking about the program he is involved with.
>>
>> and that is also the same world wide
> 
> I doubt it, the UK is more stringent than that.

the rules and laws for alcoholics anonymous are the same world wide

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#242136

From"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is>
Date2018-12-27 20:13 +0000
Message-ID<op.zuo6f2w97uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>
In reply to#242115
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 18:50:49 -0000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
> news:op.zuo01uog7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26 -0000,
>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in that
>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know what
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful than
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said Catholicoholics.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean up ,
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court made
>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug addiction
>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>
>>> that doesn't change the program
>>
>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>
> He's talking about the program he is involved with.

I said "Depends on the country", and he said that doesn't change the program.

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#242139

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-27 13:20 -0700
Message-ID<bs01o5.dr6.19.6@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242136
On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 18:50:49 -0000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
>> news:op.zuo01uog7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08 
>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26 
>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know 
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful 
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said 
>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean 
>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court 
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug 
>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>
>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>
>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>
>> He's talking about the program he is involved with.
> 
> I said "Depends on the country", and he said that doesn't change the 
> program.

and then i told you why

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#242159

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-28 09:07 +1100
Message-ID<g8l0paF4dnlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#242136

"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message 
news:op.zuo6f2w97uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 18:50:49 -0000, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
>> news:op.zuo01uog7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08 -0000, 
>>>>>>> %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 
>>>>>>> 03:22:26 -0000,
>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know 
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful 
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said 
>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean up 
>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court 
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug 
>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>
>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>
>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>
>> He's talking about the program he is involved with.
>
> I said "Depends on the country", and he said that doesn't change the 
> program.

And he meant the program he is involved with. 

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#242170 — Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL

FromPeeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid>
Date2018-12-27 23:49 +0100
SubjectRe: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
Message-ID<VFcVD.72278$dd4.57746@usenetxs.com>
In reply to#242159
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 09:07:30 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


> 
> And he meant the program he is involved with.

Is this still about water heaters or what, you two prize idiots?

-- 
Another retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rot:

Senile Rot: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own shit?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rot: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the shit."

MID: <fv66kaFml0nU2@mid.individual.net>

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#242156 — Re: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL

FromPeeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid>
Date2018-12-27 22:49 +0100
SubjectRe: Lonely Psychotic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert! LOL
Message-ID<nObVD.132805$nd2.78955@usenetxs.com>
In reply to#242115
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 05:50:49 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

>> You think all countries have the same program?!
> 
> He's talking about the program he is involved with.

Is this still about water heaters? Or what are you prize idiots NOW babbling
about again?

-- 
Norman Wells addressing senile Rot:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID: <g4t0jtFrknaU1@mid.individual.net>

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#242129

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-27 12:32 -0700
Message-ID<brvuuj.cf2.19.2@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242105
On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading 
>>>>> posts by
>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>, 
>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <
>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>> posts by
>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>> < > says...
>>>>> < >
>>>>> < >
>>>>> < > <
>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>> < > < >
>>>>> < > < >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08 -0000, %
>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26 -0000,
>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in that
>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know what
>>>>> it is
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>> them
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant 
>>>>> twat.
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>> were
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful than
>>>>> you.
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said Catholicoholics.
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean up ,
>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a 
>>>>> year
>>>>> < > < >
>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court made
>>>>> them go.
>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>> < >
>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug addiction
>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>> < >
>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>
>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>> too.
>>>>>
>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>
>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>
>> that doesn't change the program
> 
> You think all countries have the same program?!

i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so

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#242137

From"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is>
Date2018-12-27 20:13 +0000
Message-ID<op.zuo6ghmp7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>
In reply to#242129
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08 -0000, %
>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26 -0000,
>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in that
>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know what
>>>>>> it is
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful than
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said Catholicoholics.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean up ,
>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court made
>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug addiction
>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>> < >
>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>
>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>
>>> that doesn't change the program
>>
>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>
> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so

There is no such thing.

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#242140

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-27 13:23 -0700
Message-ID<bs01so.dr6.19.7@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242137
On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08 
>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26 
>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know 
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful 
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said 
>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean 
>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court 
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug 
>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>
>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>
>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>
>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>
>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
> 
> There is no such thing.

Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous

In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups worldwide. 
The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups 
function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the 
organization is structured globally.

it's a world wide program ,
that's two wrongs for you tit lips

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#242320

From"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is>
Date2018-12-28 15:42 +0000
Message-ID<op.zuqok81n7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>
In reply to#242140
On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean
>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>
>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>
>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>
>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>
>> There is no such thing.
>
> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>
> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups worldwide.
> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
> organization is structured globally.
>
> it's a world wide program ,
> that's two wrongs for you tit lips

Yeah and that's the only program....

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#242337

FromSkeeter <chico@invalid.invalid>
Date2018-12-28 09:21 -0700
Message-ID<MPG.368ffb60862624b781e@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#242320
In article <op.zuqok81n7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>, 
William_Gothberg@internet.co.is says...
>
>On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i speak for
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you wish you
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts and
>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those programs,
>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back and
>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean
>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court
>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a problem.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get suspended
>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>
>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>
>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>
>>> There is no such thing.
>>
>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>
>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups worldwide.
>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>> organization is structured globally.
>>
>> it's a world wide program ,
>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>
>Yeah and that's the only program....

You need to do a 4th step asap.

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#242341

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-28 09:26 -0700
Message-ID<bs28cp.35o.17.2@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242320
On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William 
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04 
>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m., 
>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i 
>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you 
>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those 
>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean
>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court
>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a 
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get 
>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>
>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>
>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>
>>> There is no such thing.
>>
>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>
>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups worldwide.
>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>> organization is structured globally.
>>
>> it's a world wide program ,
>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
> 
> Yeah and that's the only program....

and a far cry from you saying there aren't any

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#242356

From"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is>
Date2018-12-28 16:57 +0000
Message-ID<op.zuqr1ap97uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>
In reply to#242341
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, everyone's
>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless ignorant
>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you
>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful
>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people they can
>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / clean
>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober for a
>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a
>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>
>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>
>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>
>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups worldwide.
>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>
>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>
>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>
> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any

I never said there weren't any programs.

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#242373

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-28 10:09 -0700
Message-ID<bs2atp.cno.19.5@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242356
On 2018-12-28 9:57 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when 
>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety 
>>>>>>>>>>> goggles
>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16 
>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m., 
>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous, 
>>>>>>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless 
>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant
>>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you
>>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful
>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people 
>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up / 
>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober 
>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court
>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a
>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>>
>>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>>
>>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups worldwide.
>>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>>
>>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>>
>>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>>
>> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any
> 
> I never said there weren't any programs.

thanks for missing the point entirely

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#242386

From"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is>
Date2018-12-28 17:16 +0000
Message-ID<op.zuqsxtge7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>
In reply to#242373
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:09:34 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2018-12-28 9:57 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety
>>>>>>>>>>>> goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16
>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous,
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant
>>>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you
>>>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more useful
>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in fact
>>>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be the
>>>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for addicts
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people
>>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the back
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up /
>>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the court
>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they attended as
>>>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>>>
>>>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups worldwide.
>>>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>>>
>>>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>>>
>>>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>>>
>>> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any
>>
>> I never said there weren't any programs.
>
> thanks for missing the point entirely

Oh look, you've learnt a new phrase.

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#242403

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-28 10:30 -0700
Message-ID<bs2c5i.ha4.17.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242386
On 2018-12-28 10:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:09:34 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-28 9:57 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety
>>>>>>>>>>>>> goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m., 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant
>>>>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up /
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attended as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups 
>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>>>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>>>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>>>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>>>>
>>>> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any
>>>
>>> I never said there weren't any programs.
>>
>> thanks for missing the point entirely
> 
> Oh look, you've learnt a new phrase.


oh look you missed the point again

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#242417

From"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is>
Date2018-12-28 17:44 +0000
Message-ID<op.zuqt8cgq7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>
In reply to#242403
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:30:47 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2018-12-28 10:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:09:34 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-28 9:57 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attended as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups
>>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>>>>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>>>>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>>>>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>>>>>
>>>>> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any
>>>>
>>>> I never said there weren't any programs.
>>>
>>> thanks for missing the point entirely
>>
>> Oh look, you've learnt a new phrase.
>
>
> oh look you missed the point again

6 year olds can repeat, can I not get something slightly more advanced from you?

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#242424

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-28 10:49 -0700
Message-ID<bs2d9c.oad.17.8@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242417
On 2018-12-28 10:44 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:30:47 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-28 10:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:09:34 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-28 9:57 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m., 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attended as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups
>>>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>>>>>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>>>>>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>>>>>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said there weren't any programs.
>>>>
>>>> thanks for missing the point entirely
>>>
>>> Oh look, you've learnt a new phrase.
>>
>>
>> oh look you missed the point again
> 
> 6 year olds can repeat, can I not get something slightly more advanced 
> from you?

if i feel like letting you have it

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#242441

From"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is>
Date2018-12-28 18:32 +0000
Message-ID<op.zuqwf3do7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan>
In reply to#242424
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:49:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2018-12-28 10:44 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:30:47 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-12-28 10:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:09:34 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-12-28 9:57 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at all in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest up /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay sober
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend drug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attended as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups
>>>>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>>>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>>>>>>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>>>>>>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>>>>>>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I never said there weren't any programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for missing the point entirely
>>>>
>>>> Oh look, you've learnt a new phrase.
>>>
>>>
>>> oh look you missed the point again
>>
>> 6 year olds can repeat, can I not get something slightly more advanced
>> from you?
>
> if i feel like letting you have it

Pissed again are you?

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#242450

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-12-28 11:36 -0700
Message-ID<bs2g1m.ecr.19.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#242441
On 2018-12-28 11:32 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:49:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-12-28 10:44 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:30:47 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-12-28 10:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:09:34 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-12-28 9:57 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:26:22 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-28 8:42 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 20:23:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 1:13 p.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 19:32:55 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 11:16 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 16:42:53 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 7:25 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:33:08 -0000, % <persent@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-27 2:02 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checkmate!  In article <brtbjk.pjt.17.1@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < On 2018-12-26 12:48 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > Checkmate!  In article <brsjna.hr9.17.4@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < On 2018-12-25 8:44 p.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <brpuce.7af.17.15@news.alt.net>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ On 2018-12-25 12:43 a.m., Checkmate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goggles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when reading posts by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Checkmate!  In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bro9pc.1dn.19.4@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ On 2018-12-24 2:46 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 21:23:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> On 2018-12-24 2:16 p.m., William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 20:02:02
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> On 2018-12-24 1:00 p.m., 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 17:31:16
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> On 2018-12-24 10:25 a.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 00:43:04
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> On 2018-12-23 5:35 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:59:08
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000, %
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-22 1:50 p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Dec 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 03:22:26
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -0000,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-12-21 6:55 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p.m.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gothberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't tell me you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick cyclist bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>> i can't tell you i 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>> Don't be ridiculous,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>> i'm not everyone nor do i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speak for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>> Indeed, you're a clueless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>> i'm usefull then , don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>> I'm probably 100 times more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>> you serve no purpose at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally you're a burden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>> And your purpose would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> i suppose my employment 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> largest of my endless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>> contributions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>> Which is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >> i design recovery programs for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addicts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alcoholics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > I thought that last word said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catholicoholics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > And you don't need to design those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just ease it off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ > slowly, everybody knows that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ that's what they go to treatment for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > @@@@@ they need a treatment plan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ > Maybe they really go there to meet people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> score some dope from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ that's a guarantee sometimes they sit in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drink right in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ detox , lots come for a few meals a rest 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > @@@@@ the long term odds are 1 in 25 will stay 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sober
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > I believe it.  Most are probably there because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > You can't fix someone who doesn't think they 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < > courts can't mandate that they go and ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < there are no door locks you can leave anytime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > In the US, courts can require drug users to attend 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addiction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > programs, and make them pay for it too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < how do they make them stay their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have to bring proof back to the court that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attended as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required, or they stay fucked.  I think their licenses get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suspended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's an anonymous program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on the country and the judge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that doesn't change the program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You think all countries have the same program?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm talking about a world wide program so ... yea i think so
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alcoholics Anonymous - Wikipedia
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholics_Anonymous
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In 2006, AA counted 1,867,212 members and 106,202 AA groups
>>>>>>>>>> worldwide.
>>>>>>>>>> The Twelve Traditions informally guide how individual AA groups
>>>>>>>>>> function, and the Twelve Concepts for World Service guide how the
>>>>>>>>>> organization is structured globally.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's a world wide program ,
>>>>>>>>>> that's two wrongs for you tit lips
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah and that's the only program....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and a far cry from you saying there aren't any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never said there weren't any programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for missing the point entirely
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh look, you've learnt a new phrase.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> oh look you missed the point again
>>>
>>> 6 year olds can repeat, can I not get something slightly more advanced
>>> from you?
>>
>> if i feel like letting you have it
> 
> Pissed again are you?

only if your face is wet

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