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| Started by | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| First post | 2018-11-27 05:16 -0500 |
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Re: By definition, geniuses are rare. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-27 05:16 -0500
Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-11-27 06:33 -0800
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-28 06:08 -0500
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-11-28 09:51 -0800
Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-11-28 06:37 -0800
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 07:44 -0700
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-28 09:48 -0500
99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-11-28 07:39 -0800
Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 12:00 -0500
Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 10:03 -0700
Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-29 05:37 -0500
Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-29 05:36 -0500
Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-29 05:35 -0500
The graviton, string theory, and bullshit worlds. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-11-29 06:19 -0800
Re: The graviton, string theory, and bullshit worlds. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-29 10:21 -0500
We don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-11-29 08:31 -0800
Re: We don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-30 06:11 -0500
Kensi's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-11-30 05:09 -0800
Re: Relf's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-30 11:29 -0500
Re: Relf's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-30 21:00 +0000
Re: Relf's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-01 07:27 -0500
Science FICTION sells better than the real thing $ $ $ Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-11-30 13:46 -0800
Re: Science FICTION sells better than the real thing $ $ $ Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-11-30 16:41 -0600
Re: Science FICTION sells better than the real thing $ $ $ kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-01 07:28 -0500
Kensi is the KoOky one. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-12-01 06:28 -0800
Re: Kensi is the KoOky one. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-01 09:33 -0500
See ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-12-01 06:48 -0800
Re: See ? ! kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-01 09:55 -0500
I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-12-01 07:04 -0800
Re: I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-01 11:27 -0500
Re: I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 12:13 -0500
Re: I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-02 02:09 +0000
Re: I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-01 22:18 -0800
Re: I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-02 09:31 -0500
Re: I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. % <%@%> - 2018-12-02 07:35 -0700
Re: I could be Taylor Swift, or the queen of England. Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-12-02 14:47 -0800
Re: See ? ! Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-01 08:51 -0700
Re: See ? ! kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-01 11:27 -0500
Re: See ? ! "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-12-01 11:47 -0500
Re: See ? ! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 10:48 -0700
Re: See ? ! Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-01 12:43 -0700
Re: See ? ! Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-12-02 02:10 +0000
Re: See ? ! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-03 07:17 -0600
Re: See ? ! Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-03 08:05 -0700
Re: See ? ! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 10:48 -0700
Re: See ? ! Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-01 12:44 -0700
Re: See ? ! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 12:49 -0700
Re: See ? ! Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-01 12:54 -0700
Re: See ? ! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 13:02 -0700
Re: See ? ! Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-01 15:10 -0700
Re: See ? ! % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 15:22 -0700
Re: See ? ! Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-01 18:43 -0700
Re: Kensi is the KoOky one. Bob Robertson <bobrobertsontsy66@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 21:52 -0600
Re: Kensi is the KoOky one. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 12:09 -0500
Re: Science FICTION sells better than the real thing $ $ $ Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-12-01 08:51 -0700
Re: Science FICTION sells better than the real thing $ $ $ Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-12-01 11:48 -0600
Re: Kensi's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 12:28 -0500
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-11-28 15:23 -0800
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-11-28 12:33 -0600
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-28 15:54 -0500
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-11-28 18:51 -0800
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> - 2018-11-28 13:54 -0800
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-28 14:57 -0700
Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-28 20:26 -0600
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-29 06:45 +0000
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> - 2018-11-29 05:17 -0800
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Libtard <libtard@sandernistas.edu> - 2018-11-29 09:43 +0000
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-29 05:49 -0500
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-29 09:08 -0700
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Libtard <libtard@sandernistas.edu> - 2018-11-29 17:40 +0000
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-29 16:15 -0600
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-29 09:08 -0700
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-29 16:17 -0600
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-29 17:22 -0500
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-30 07:46 +0000
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-30 00:55 -0700
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Libtard <libtard@sandernistas.edu> - 2018-11-30 09:49 +0000
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-30 08:50 -0700
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-30 09:59 -0600
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-29 05:49 -0500
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-29 20:08 +0000
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 13:19 -0700
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-29 12:09 -0800
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-29 12:48 -0800
Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-29 18:48 -0700
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-27 05:16 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: By definition, geniuses are rare. |
| Message-ID | <ptj5hv$11h$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
On 11/25/2018 11:12 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Kensi replied: >>> the Lambda in " Lambda, Cold Dark Matter ". >> >> Nobody expects it to actually be a fundamental constant, though. > > Lambda is mainstream, 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2, negative pressure. But nobody expects it to actually be a fundamental constant rather than a quantum field of some sort. >> Most likely the cause is some Higgs-like field giving >> the vacuum -> a positive energy density. > > "a positive energy density" ? it's negative pressure. Which is what you get if the vacuum has a net positive energy density, something you would have already known had you ever received an *actual* education in particle physics. [rest deleted unread as it's the babblings of a poorly-educated lunatic] -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-11-27 06:33 -0800 |
| Subject | Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.27--6.33am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #230496 |
Kensi replied: > > Lambda is mainstream, 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2, negative pressure. > > But nobody expects it to actually be a fundamental constant > rather than a quantum field of some sort. Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. WikiPedia: The cosmological constant Λ is the simplest possible explanation for dark energy, and is used in the current standard model of cosmology known as the ΛCDM model. > > it's negative pressure. > > Which is what you get if the vacuum has a net positive energy density. It's entropy, plain and simple. Either that, or there's zillions of Hoover vacuums out there. Gravity is residual exergy, entropy is killing it off, eventually leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, but none of the eXergy ( as Lord Kelvin predicted, 1852 ).
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 06:08 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. |
| Message-ID | <ptlsvj$nke$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #230510 |
On 11/27/2018 9:33 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Kensi replied: >>> Lambda is mainstream, 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2, negative pressure. >> >> But nobody expects it to actually be a fundamental constant >> rather than a quantum field of some sort. > > Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. > > WikiPedia: > > The cosmological constant Λ is the simplest possible explanation > for dark energy, and is used in the current standard > model of cosmology known as the ΛCDM model. > >>> it's negative pressure. >> >> Which is what you get if the vacuum has a net positive energy density. > > It's entropy, plain and simple. > > Either that, or there's zillions of Hoover vacuums out there. > > Gravity is residual exergy, entropy is killing it off, eventually > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, > but none of the eXergy ( as Lord Kelvin predicted, 1852 ). Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Now you're just repeating yourself. Ko0kiness level: SSCG(3). -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Checkmate <oshay.shad@yahoo.corn> |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 09:51 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Try again, you're off by 120 orders of magnitude. |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3668757be1fb10709958e9@news.altopia.com> |
| In reply to | #230761 |
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by Checkmate! In article <ptlsvj$nke$1@gioia.aioe.org>, kkensington01 @gmail.nospam.invalid says... .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯)Now you're just repeating yourself. .?'´¯) .?'´¯)Ko0kiness level: SSCG(3). .?'´¯) How childish. Your ko0kiness level is off the scale! -- Checkmate ® Author, Humorist, Cynic Philosopher, Humanitarian Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars Usenet Shot-Caller Copyright © 2018 all rights reserved In loving memory of The Battle Kitten May 2010-February 12, 2017 "There are many here among us, who feel that life is but a joke." "I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as kensi." -Nadegda Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$21@dont-email.me>
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 06:37 -0800 |
| Subject | Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--6.37am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #230761 |
Kensi replied: > > Gravity is residual exergy, entropy is killing it off, eventually > > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, > > but none of the eXergy ( as Lord Kelvin predicted, 1852 ). > > Now you're just repeating yourself. > Now you're just repeating yourself. > Ko0kiness level: SSCG(3). Unlike you, I don't have to repeat myself; nor do I have to _ dismiss entropy, and the cosmological constant, as you do. WikiPedia: If the cosmological constant is positive, as appears to be the case in recent observations, the temperature will asymptote to a non-zero positive value, and the universe will approach a state of maximum entropy. Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? Gravity is residual exergy, entropy is killing it off. The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, not a blunder.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 07:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? |
| Message-ID | <bpiv53.o31.17.14@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #230791 |
On 2018-11-28 7:37 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Kensi replied: >>> Gravity is residual exergy, entropy is killing it off, eventually >>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, >>> but none of the eXergy ( as Lord Kelvin predicted, 1852 ). >> >> Now you're just repeating yourself. >> Now you're just repeating yourself. >> Ko0kiness level: SSCG(3). > > Unlike you, I don't have to repeat myself; > nor do I have to _ dismiss entropy, > and the cosmological constant, as you do. > > WikiPedia: > > If the cosmological constant is positive, > as appears to be the case in recent observations, > the temperature will asymptote to a non-zero positive value, > and the universe will approach a state of maximum entropy. > > Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? > > Gravity is residual exergy, entropy is killing it off. > > The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, not a blunder. > you said this already
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 09:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? |
| Message-ID | <ptm9sb$1hnu$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #230791 |
On 11/28/2018 9:37 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, not a blunder. It has no explanatory value! It's just a fudge factor! A real achievement would be understanding the causing quantum field! -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 07:39 -0800 |
| Subject | 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.28--7.39am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #230799 |
Kensi replied: > > Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? > > The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, > > not a blunder. > > It has no explanatory value! It's just a fudge factor! > A real achievement would be understanding the causing quantum field! "Entropy and the cosmological constant" explains the uniform, isotropic, expotentially expanding Universe that we observe. No need for your wild imaginations, like the graviton, string theory, and the bullshit worlds you love to hide in. 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein.
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| From | benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 12:00 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. |
| Message-ID | <ptmhiq$1a3$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #230812 |
On 11/28/2018 10:39 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Kensi replied: >>> Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? >>> The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, >>> not a blunder. >> >> It has no explanatory value! It's just a fudge factor! >> A real achievement would be understanding the causing quantum field! > > "Entropy and the cosmological constant" explains the uniform, > isotropic, expotentially expanding Universe that we observe. Total bullshit. Big Bang is biggest mistake of all physics. > No need for your wild imaginations, like the graviton, > string theory, and the bullshit worlds you love to hide in. This is true, R0lf. > 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. 99% of all scientists have yet to catch up to Maxwell.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-28 10:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. |
| Message-ID | <bpj7a5.l84.19.1@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #230854 |
On 2018-11-28 10:00 AM, benj wrote: > On 11/28/2018 10:39 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> Kensi replied: >>>> Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? >>>> The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, >>>> not a blunder. >>> >>> It has no explanatory value! It's just a fudge factor! >>> A real achievement would be understanding the causing quantum field! >> >> "Entropy and the cosmological constant" explains the uniform, >> isotropic, expotentially expanding Universe that we observe. > > Total bullshit. Big Bang is biggest mistake of all physics. > >> No need for your wild imaginations, like the graviton, >> string theory, and the bullshit worlds you love to hide in. > > This is true, R0lf. > >> 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. > > 99% of all scientists have yet to catch up to Maxwell. > > nobody has caught up to me , yay
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-29 05:37 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. |
| Message-ID | <ptofh1$19m3$6@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #230855 |
On 11/28/2018 12:03 PM, % wrote: > On 2018-11-28 10:00 AM, benj wrote: >> On 11/28/2018 10:39 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>> 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. >> >> 99% of all scientists have yet to catch up to Maxwell. > > nobody has caught up to me , yay That's because we all started out already *past* you, ko0ky. *snicker* -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-29 05:36 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. |
| Message-ID | <ptoffg$19m3$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #230854 |
On 11/28/2018 12:00 PM, benj wrote: > On 11/28/2018 10:39 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> Kensi replied: >>>> Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? >>>> The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, >>>> not a blunder. >>> >>> It has no explanatory value! It's just a fudge factor! >>> A real achievement would be understanding the causing quantum field! >> >> "Entropy and the cosmological constant" explains the uniform, >> isotropic, expotentially expanding Universe that we observe. > > Total bullshit. Big Bang is biggest mistake of all physics. *starts popcorn* Do tell? *snicker* -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-29 05:35 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. |
| Message-ID | <ptofee$19m3$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #230812 |
On 11/28/2018 10:39 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Kensi replied: >>> Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? >>> The cosmological constant is Einstein's greatest achievement, >>> not a blunder. >> >> It has no explanatory value! It's just a fudge factor! >> A real achievement would be understanding the causing quantum field! > > "Entropy and the cosmological constant" explains the uniform, > isotropic, expotentially expanding Universe that we observe. No, not really. "Dark energy" could, if we knew more about what exactly it is. I hope the LHC will shed some light on dark energy, and also on dark matter, sometime soon. > No need for your wild imaginations, like the graviton, > string theory, and the bullshit worlds you love to hide in. > > 99% of scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein. Don't be ridiculous. We've surpassed him, decades ago, in a very many ways (though especially in the realm of quantum physics). -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-11-29 06:19 -0800 |
| Subject | The graviton, string theory, and bullshit worlds. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--6.19am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #231185 |
Kensi replied:
> > "Entropy and the cosmological constant" explains the uniform,
> > isotropic, expotentially expanding Universe that we observe.
>
> No, not really.
Yes, really. WikiPedia: <<
If the cosmological constant is positive,
-- as appears to be the case in recent observations --,
the temperature will asymptote to a non-zero positive value,
and the universe will approach a state of maximum entropy. >>
Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ?
Gravity is residual exergy, entropy is killing it off.
> "Dark energy" could, if we knew more about what exactly it is.
" The cosmological constant Λ is the simplest possible explanation
for dark energy, and is used in the current standard
model of cosmology known as the ΛCDM model. " -- WikiPedia
> I hope the LHC will shed some light on dark energy,
Good luck, they're only off by 120 orders of magnitude.
No need for such wild imaginations, like
the graviton, string theory, and bullshit worlds.
Choose your cult:
SuperDeterminism ( Spinoza, Einstein and Me ):
Sure, our ignorance ( not the cat's "randomness" ) is real,
-- we don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive;
but "Local Realism" (causality) doesn't need our recognition.
qBism uses an AgreedUpon (SI) standard to reduced the wavefunction
to AgreedUpon probabilities upon which one might (subjectively) bet.
One might (subjectively) bet that entanglement is a real phenomenon,
"knowing" |Up> in one location will be |Down> in another;
no faster than light anything; no bullshit worlds.
YouTube.COM/watch?v=LQvCTZgNRNw
YouTube.COM/watch?v=95fKJF5frtE
MultiVerse ( Stephen Hawking, Brian Greene and ComicCon ):
Before EachAndEvery NanoChange, a universe duplicates itself;
because ComicCon SciFi pays better than real science.
> > Many of today's scientists have yet to catch up to Einstein.
>
> Don't be ridiculous. We've surpassed him, decades ago,
> in a very many ways ( especially quantum physics ).
No, you're way _ behind him.
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-29 10:21 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The graviton, string theory, and bullshit worlds. |
| Message-ID | <ptp05p$a34$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #231213 |
On 11/29/2018 9:19 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > " The cosmological constant Λ is the simplest possible explanation > for dark energy, and is used in the current standard It's not an "explanation" at all. It's a fudge factor. > qBism Solipsistic nonsense. See: Bacciagaluppi, Guido (2014-01-01). "A Critic Looks at QBism". In Galavotti, Maria Carla; Dieks, Dennis; Gonzalez, Wenceslao J.; Hartmann, Stephan; Uebel, Thomas; Weber, Marcel. New Directions in the Philosophy of Science. The Philosophy of Science in a European Perspective. Springer International Publishing. pp. 403–416. -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-11-29 08:31 -0800 |
| Subject | We don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.29--8.31am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #231231 |
Kensi replied: > > qBism > > Solipsistic nonsense. qBism is a combination of AgreedUpon (SI) probabilities and "Shut up and calculate"; as such, it's far more economical and effective than hiding in bullshit worlds, as you do. "Plato.Stanford.EDU": << Pragmatists agree with QBists that quantum theory should not be thought to offer a description or representation of physical reality: in particular, to ascribe a quantum state is not to describe physical reality. >> It's our _ ignorance ( not the cat's "randomness" ) that is real, -- we don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive. "Shut up and calculate" and the cosmological constant are mainstream. > > " The cosmological constant Λ is the simplest possible explanation > > for dark energy, and is used in the current standard > > It's not an "explanation" at all. It's a fudge factor. You should edit the WikiPedia entry, then, as if being 120 orders of magnitude off were better.
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-30 06:11 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: We don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive. |
| Message-ID | <ptr5to$1skp$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #231291 |
On 11/29/2018 11:31 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Kensi replied: >>> qBism >> >> Solipsistic nonsense. > > qBism is a combination of AgreedUpon (SI) probabilities and > "Shut up and calculate"; as such, it's far more economical > and effective than hiding in bullshit worlds, as you do. Get real. It's one of those interpretations that says there's something magical about blobs of carbon atoms if they happen to be arranged in a manner sufficiently resembling brains. A quick run-down makes it clear that the only *rational* choices are MWI, Relational, Cosmological (if they can figure out how that can produce wave interference, that is), and *maybe*, as dark horse candidates *at best*, the nonlocal hidden variable ones like Transactional. > "Shut up and calculate" and the cosmological constant are mainstream. So was geocentrism, once. >>> " The cosmological constant Λ is the simplest possible explanation >>> for dark energy, and is used in the current standard >> >> It's not an "explanation" at all. It's a fudge factor. > > You should edit the WikiPedia entry, then, > as if being 120 orders of magnitude off were better. Where are you getting that from? You keep harping on it, kO0k, without actually explaining WTF you're burbling about. -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-11-30 05:09 -0800 |
| Subject | Kensi's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.30--5.09am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #231652 |
Kensi replied:
> > "Shut up and calculate" and the cosmological constant are mainstream.
>
> So was geocentrism, once.
You're making useless, unfalsifiable assumptions ( bullshit worlds ),
and you're straying far from accepted science ( Lambda, CDM ).
> > You should edit the WikiPedia entry, then,
> > as if being 120 orders of magnitude off were better.
>
> Where are you getting that from? You keep harping on it, kO0k,
> without actually explaining WTF you're burbling about.
From " Dark Energy and the Preposterous Universe "
by Sean M. Carroll, Enrico Fermi Institute
( YouTube.COM/user/seancarroll/videos ):
...the potential energy of the Higgs field...
...the condensate of quark bilinears...
...zero-point vacuum fluctuations...
This is the famous 120-orders-of-magnitude discrepancy
that makes the cosmological constant problem such a glaring embarrassment.
WikiPedia: <<
If the cosmological constant is positive,
-- as appears to be the case in recent observations --,
the temperature will asymptote to a non-zero positive value,
and the universe will approach a state of maximum entropy. >>
Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ?
Gravity is residual exergy, entropy ( negative pressure ) is killing it off.
> > qBism is a combination of AgreedUpon (SI) probabilities and
> > "Shut up and calculate"; as such, it's far more economical
> > and effective than hiding in bullshit worlds, as you do.
>
> Get real. It's one of those interpretations that says there's something
> magical about blobs of carbon atoms if they happen to be arranged in a
> manner sufficiently resembling brains.
"magical blobs" ? ! Where did you hear that, Twitter ?
Maximal consumption has been programmed into us ( by nature ).
Ways to do it:
1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast.
2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume longer ).
3. Sacrifice yourself for the tribe, so they can consume more, longer.
Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume.
We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options.
"Shut up and calculate" works best because it doesn't conjure up bullshit worlds
nor bullshit SuperPositions. Our ignorance ( not the cat's "randomness" )
is _ REAL; we don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive.
> A quick run-down makes it clear that the only *rational* choices are
> MWI, Relational, Cosmological (if they can figure out how that can
> produce wave interference, that is), and *maybe*, as dark horse
> candidates *at best*, the nonlocal hidden variable ones like Transactional.
The Copenhagen Interpretation was right; and it still is.
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| From | kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-30 11:29 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Relf's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. |
| Message-ID | <ptroha$135i$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #231662 |
On 11/30/2018 8:09 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Kensi replied: >>> "Shut up and calculate" and the cosmological constant are mainstream. >> >> So was geocentrism, once. > > You're making useless, unfalsifiable assumptions ( bullshit worlds ), > and you're straying far from accepted science ( Lambda, CDM ). If so, then I'm in distinguished company. Everett, Wheeler, Hawking, Deutsch, DeWitt, Tipler, Albrecht, Zurek, Polley, Sebens, Carroll, Vaidman, Lockwood, Tegmark ... !>>> You should edit the WikiPedia entry, then, !>>> as if being 120 orders of magnitude off were better. !>> !>> Where are you getting that from? You keep harping on it, kO0k, !>> without actually explaining WTF you're burbling about. !> !> From " Dark Energy and the Preposterous Universe " !> by Sean M. Carroll, Enrico Fermi Institute !> ( YouTube.COM/user/seancarroll/videos ): !> !> ...the potential energy of the Higgs field... !> ...the condensate of quark bilinears... !> ...zero-point vacuum fluctuations... !> This is the famous 120-orders-of-magnitude discrepancy !> that makes the cosmological constant problem such a glaring embarrassment. !> !> WikiPedia: << !> !> If the cosmological constant is positive, !> -- as appears to be the case in recent observations --, !> the temperature will asymptote to a non-zero positive value, !> and the universe will approach a state of maximum entropy. >> !> !> Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? !> Gravity is residual exergy, entropy ( negative pressure ) is killing it off. !> !>>> qBism is a combination of AgreedUpon (SI) probabilities and !>>> "Shut up and calculate"; as such, it's far more economical !>>> and effective than hiding in bullshit worlds, as you do. !>> !>> Get real. It's one of those interpretations that says there's something !>> magical about blobs of carbon atoms if they happen to be arranged in a !>> manner sufficiently resembling brains. !> !> "magical blobs" ? ! Where did you hear that, Twitter ? !> !> Maximal consumption has been programmed into us ( by nature ). !> Ways to do it: !> !> 1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast. !> 2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume longer ). !> 3. Sacrifice yourself for the tribe, so they can consume more, longer. !> !> Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume. !> We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our options. !> !> "Shut up and calculate" works best because it doesn't conjure up bullshit worlds !> nor bullshit SuperPositions. Our ignorance ( not the cat's "randomness" ) !> is _ REAL; we don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive. !> !>> A quick run-down makes it clear that the only *rational* choices are !>> MWI, Relational, Cosmological (if they can figure out how that can !>> produce wave interference, that is), and *maybe*, as dark horse !>> candidates *at best*, the nonlocal hidden variable ones like Transactional. !> !> The Copenhagen Interpretation was right; and it still is. KoOkiness l3v3l: Rayo's number. -- "To explain the unknown by the known is a logical procedure; to explain the known by the unknown is a form of theological lunacy." ~David Brooks "I get fooled all the time by the constant hosiery parade in here." ~Checkmate
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| From | Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-30 21:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Relf's useless, unfalsifiable assumptions. |
| Message-ID | <pts8e9$v5e$46@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #231742 |
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt! On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:29:31 -0500, kensi wrote: > On 11/30/2018 8:09 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> Kensi replied: >>>> "Shut up and calculate" and the cosmological constant are mainstream. >>> >>> So was geocentrism, once. >> >> You're making useless, unfalsifiable assumptions ( bullshit worlds ), >> and you're straying far from accepted science ( Lambda, CDM ). > > If so, then I'm in distinguished company. Everett, Wheeler, Hawking, > Deutsch, DeWitt, Tipler, Albrecht, Zurek, Polley, Sebens, Carroll, > Vaidman, Lockwood, Tegmark ... I don't know who most of those are (Hawking I recognize and you've mentioned Tegmark before in connection with some multiverse thingy) but I've a feeling Relf just got massively SPNAKed. <snicker> > !>>> You should edit the WikiPedia entry, then, > !>>> as if being 120 orders of magnitude off were better. > !>> > !>> Where are you getting that from? You keep harping on it, kO0k, > !>> without actually explaining WTF you're burbling about. > !> > !> From " Dark Energy and the Preposterous Universe " > !> by Sean M. Carroll, Enrico Fermi Institute !> ( > YouTube.COM/user/seancarroll/videos ): > !> > !> ...the potential energy of the Higgs field... > !> ...the condensate of quark bilinears... > !> ...zero-point vacuum fluctuations... > !> This is the famous 120-orders-of-magnitude discrepancy !> that > makes the cosmological constant problem such a glaring embarrassment. > !> > !> WikiPedia: << > !> > !> If the cosmological constant is positive, > !> -- as appears to be the case in recent observations --, > !> the temperature will asymptote to a non-zero positive value, > !> and the universe will approach a state of maximum entropy. >> > !> > !> Why wouldn't entropy apply to a hot star in a cold vacuum ? > !> Gravity is residual exergy, entropy ( negative pressure ) is killing > it off. > !> > !>>> qBism is a combination of AgreedUpon (SI) probabilities and !>>> > "Shut up and calculate"; as such, it's far more economical !>>> and > effective than hiding in bullshit worlds, as you do. > !>> > !>> Get real. It's one of those interpretations that says there's > something !>> magical about blobs of carbon atoms if they happen to be > arranged in a !>> manner sufficiently resembling brains. > !> > !> "magical blobs" ? ! Where did you hear that, Twitter ? > !> > !> Maximal consumption has been programmed into us ( by nature ). > !> Ways to do it: > !> > !> 1. Live Fast ( consume more now ), Die Fast. > !> 2. Live Slow, Die Later ( consume longer ). > !> 3. Sacrifice yourself for the tribe, so they can consume more, > longer. > !> > !> Either way, the (PreProgrammed) objective is the same: consume. > !> We ( you, me, and the stars ) consume what we can, given our > options. > !> > !> "Shut up and calculate" works best because it doesn't conjure up > bullshit worlds !> nor bullshit SuperPositions. Our ignorance ( not the > cat's "randomness" ) > !> is _ REAL; we don't know if Schrodinger's cat is dead or alive. > !> > !>> A quick run-down makes it clear that the only *rational* choices are > !>> MWI, Relational, Cosmological (if they can figure out how that can > !>> produce wave interference, that is), and *maybe*, as dark horse !>> > candidates *at best*, the nonlocal hidden variable ones like > Transactional. > !> > !> The Copenhagen Interpretation was right; and it still is. > > KoOkiness l3v3l: Rayo's number. I'm not even going to ask. I'm instead going to presume this is a likely typo of "R'Lyeh's number" and leave it at that. :) -- FNVWe Nadegda "By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM Skeeter admits he mooches his mother's laptop: http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=154073947600
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