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A Manifesto (repost)

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  A Manifesto (repost) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-07-03 21:31 +0000
    Hippies. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2020-07-03 18:02 -0700
      Re: Hippies. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2020-07-04 01:25 +0000
        Have a trippy hippie day, freak. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2020-07-03 18:51 -0700
          Re: Have a trippy hippie day, freak. Phantom_View <pv@PhantomView114.net> - 2020-07-03 22:19 -0400
        Re: Hippies. "Sir Hømer Hall,   Esq." <greg_hall@høme.fake> - 2020-07-04 11:08 -0400
      Re: Hippies. "Sir Hømer Hall,   Esq." <greg_hall@høme.fake> - 2020-07-04 11:06 -0400
    Re: A Manifesto (repost) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-04 08:09 +0100
      Re: A Manifesto (repost) Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-07-04 00:50 -0700
        Re: A Manifesto (repost) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-04 09:46 +0100
          Re: A Manifesto (repost) "Sir Hømer Hall,   Esq." <greg_hall@høme.fake> - 2020-07-04 11:17 -0400
            Re: A Manifesto (repost) % <persent@gmail.com> - 2020-07-04 08:28 -0700
          Re: A Manifesto (repost) Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-07-06 14:04 -0700
            Re: A Manifesto (repost) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-07 08:52 +0100
              Re: A Manifesto (repost) Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-07-07 05:32 -0700
                Re: A Manifesto (repost) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-07 13:38 +0100
                  Re: A Manifesto (repost) Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-07-07 09:24 -0700
                    Re: A Manifesto (repost) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-07 18:06 +0100
                      Re: A Manifesto (repost) recscuba_google@huntzinger.com - 2020-07-07 10:32 -0700
                        Re: A Manifesto (repost) snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-07-07 19:26 +0100
                          Re: A Manifesto (repost) recscuba_google@huntzinger.com - 2020-07-07 13:29 -0700
              Re: A Manifesto (repost) Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> - 2020-07-07 09:13 -0700

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#399174 — A Manifesto (repost)

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2020-07-03 21:31 +0000
SubjectA Manifesto (repost)
Message-ID<hm9mdkFrtk1U3@mid.individual.net>
[ Supersedes previous post, expanded newsfroups for greater justice. ]

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and
to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to
which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the
causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to
secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their
just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of
Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the
People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying
its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form,
as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should
not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all
experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while
evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to
which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and
usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to
reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty,
to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and
such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former
Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is
a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct
object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To
prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for
the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing
importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be
obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to
them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts
of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of
Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and
formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records,
for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly
firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others
to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation,
have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State
remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from
without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that
purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to
pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the
conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to
Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their
offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of
Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the
Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the
Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our
constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their
Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders
which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province,
establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries
so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing
the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and
altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested
with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection
and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and
destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to
compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with
circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most
barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to
bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their
friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to
bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages,
whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all
ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the
most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by
repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act
which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have
warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend
an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the
circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to
their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the
ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would
inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have
been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must,
therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and
hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace
Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in
General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world
for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of
the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That
these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent
States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown,
and that all political connection between them and the State of Great
Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and
Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace,
contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and
Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of
this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine
Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and
our sacred Honor.

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#399204 — Hippies.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2020-07-03 18:02 -0700
SubjectHippies.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.3--6.02pm.Seattle.2020>
In reply to#399174
The Declaration of Independence mentions:
> the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God

"God" is nature -- nothing more, nothing less.

> [the] King of Great Britain is...

...history.

First we export the parts of capitalism we don't like
( pollution, fascism, racism ) to China, then we 
complain about how poorly they treat their citizens.

If we block "evil" China, stopping trade,
we'll have to do the evil ourselves, personally.

Hippies fail to understand:

  Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens.

Prohibition is wrong, but so is - promoting -
the "drug abuse" that is negative interest rates.

If Ted Kaczynski and Michael Moore got their way 
( so the world's GDP dropped each year );
humanity would just live longer/sadder.

Woody Allen wrote:

    You can live to be a hundred if you give up 
    all the things that make you want to live 
    to be a hundred.

With or without humanity,
entropy will eventually kill the Earth,
the solar system, and The Universe.

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#399214 — Re: Hippies.

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2020-07-04 01:25 +0000
SubjectRe: Hippies.
Message-ID<hma43cFu2urU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#399204
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 18:02:47 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> The Declaration of Independence mentions:
>> the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God
> 
> "God" is nature -- nothing more, nothing less.
> 
>> [the] King of Great Britain is...
> 
> ...history.
> 
> First we export the parts of capitalism we don't like ( pollution,
> fascism, racism ) to China, then we complain about how poorly they treat
> their citizens.
> 
> If we block "evil" China, stopping trade,
> we'll have to do the evil ourselves, personally.
> 
> Hippies fail to understand:
> 
>   Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens.
> 
> Prohibition is wrong, but so is - promoting -
> the "drug abuse" that is negative interest rates.
> 
> If Ted Kaczynski and Michael Moore got their way ( so the world's GDP
> dropped each year );
> humanity would just live longer/sadder.
> 
> Woody Allen wrote:
> 
>     You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make
>     you want to live to be a hundred.
> 
> With or without humanity,
> entropy will eventually kill the Earth,
> the solar system, and The Universe.

Dear Jeff,

Do you use your newsreader to select snippets of stored boilerplate to 
construct your posts?

Sincerely,

-- 
-v  https://theproblemisextremism.org

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#399222 — Have a trippy hippie day, freak.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2020-07-03 18:51 -0700
SubjectHave a trippy hippie day, freak.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jul.3--6.51pm.Seattle.2020>
In reply to#399214
Scott Doty asked me:
> Do you use your newsreader to select 
> snippets of stored boilerplate to 
> construct your posts ?

I'm talking to myself,
establishing my opinions.

If you want to join in, Scott,
you're welcome to.

You won't, of course;
no one ever does.

Have a trippy hippie day, freak.

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#399223 — Re: Have a trippy hippie day, freak.

FromPhantom_View <pv@PhantomView114.net>
Date2020-07-03 22:19 -0400
SubjectRe: Have a trippy hippie day, freak.
Message-ID<hppvffd749sa9a1miqb8mj5v14h3sc1bhg@4ax.com>
In reply to#399222
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 18:51:42 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:

>Scott Doty asked me:
>> Do you use your newsreader to select 
>> snippets of stored boilerplate to 
>> construct your posts ?
>
>I'm talking to myself,
>establishing my opinions.
>
>If you want to join in, Scott,
>you're welcome to.
>
>You won't, of course;
>no one ever does.
>
>Have a trippy hippie day, freak.


  Um ............................ ?Que?

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#399315 — Re: Hippies.

From"Sir Hømer Hall, Esq." <greg_hall@høme.fake>
Date2020-07-04 11:08 -0400
SubjectRe: Hippies.
Message-ID<7p61gftepdr8k2im6tqf4etbespaifl7vk@4ax.com>
In reply to#399214
On 4 Jul 2020 01:25:01 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 18:02:47 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>> The Declaration of Independence mentions:
>>> the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God
>> 
>> "God" is nature -- nothing more, nothing less.
>> 
>>> [the] King of Great Britain is...
>> 
>> ...history.
>> 
>> First we export the parts of capitalism we don't like ( pollution,
>> fascism, racism ) to China, then we complain about how poorly they treat
>> their citizens.
>> 
>> If we block "evil" China, stopping trade,
>> we'll have to do the evil ourselves, personally.
>> 
>> Hippies fail to understand:
>> 
>>   Without punishments and rewards, nothing happens.
>> 
>> Prohibition is wrong, but so is - promoting -
>> the "drug abuse" that is negative interest rates.
>> 
>> If Ted Kaczynski and Michael Moore got their way ( so the world's GDP
>> dropped each year );
>> humanity would just live longer/sadder.
>> 
>> Woody Allen wrote:
>> 
>>     You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make
>>     you want to live to be a hundred.
>> 
>> With or without humanity,
>> entropy will eventually kill the Earth,
>> the solar system, and The Universe.
>
>Dear Jeff,
>
>Do you use your newsreader to select snippets of stored boilerplate to 
>construct your posts?

Do YOU study Mixed Nuts propaganda posts to
model yours after?

-- 
Yours Truly, Sir Gregøry

"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the
essential facts of life, and see if I could nøt learn what it had to teach, and
nøt, when I came to die, discover that I had nøt lived." __Henry David Thøreau

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#399314 — Re: Hippies.

From"Sir Hømer Hall, Esq." <greg_hall@høme.fake>
Date2020-07-04 11:06 -0400
SubjectRe: Hippies.
Message-ID<co51gfdmksd4e07rj5qfq59p2vi0crdj04@4ax.com>
In reply to#399204
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020, Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:

<...>

>If Ted Kaczynski and Michael Moore got their way 
>( so the world's GDP dropped each year );
>humanity would just live longer/sadder.

<...>

Micheal Moore is a freaking pure communist so
don't insult Dr. Kaczynski's anti-industrialism 
libertarianism with Fat Man Moore's communism.  
Doing so, Jeff, only serves to highlight your liberal 
drone indoctrination and your total lack of a realistic
world view. 

Please read the following short excerpt from:

"Industrial Society and Its Future" __Dr. Theordore Kaczynski

http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf


"HUMAN SUFFERING
   
  " 167. The industrial system will not break down purely as a result of
   revolutionary action. It will not be vulnerable to revolutionary
   attack unless its own internal problems of development lead it into
   very serious difficulties. So if the system breaks down it will do so
   either spontaneously, or through a process that is in part spontaneous
   but helped along by revolutionaries. If the breakdown is sudden, many
   people will die, since the world's population has become so overblown
   that it cannot even feed itself any longer without advanced
   technology. Even if the breakdown is gradual enough so that reduction
   of the population can occur more through lowering of the birth rate
   than through elevation of the death rate, the process of
   de-industrialization probably will be very chaotic and involve much
   suffering. It is naive to think it likely that technology can be
   phased out in a smoothly managed orderly way, especially since the
   technophiles will fight stubbornly at every step. Is it therefore
   cruel to work for the breakdown of the system? Maybe, but maybe not.
   In the first place, revolutionaries will not be able to break the
   system down unless it is already in deep trouble so that there would
   be a good chance of its eventually breaking down by itself anyway; and
   the bigger the system grows, the more disastrous the consequences of
   its breakdown will be; so it may be that revolutionaries, by hastening
   the onset of the breakdown will be reducing the extent of the
   disaster."


So, there you have it:  Antifa, BLM, the Democrat Party (aka Deep State) 
and other revolutionaries might be doing us all a big favor.  

I would encourage everybody to read the entire Treatise linked
to above.  Just for once, lose your Deep State indoctrination and
open your drone minds. You may not be able to change the 
future but some of you might be able to understand the why's
and wherefore's of it.

Happy Fourth of July, all.

-- 
Yours Truly, Sir Gregøry

"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the
essential facts of life, and see if I could nøt learn what it had to teach, and
nøt, when I came to die, discover that I had nøt lived." __Henry David Thøreau

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#399261

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2020-07-04 08:09 +0100
Message-ID<1ot0bxh.1125ngw1go84a2N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#399174
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
 
> Power to levy War
 
hooray some more  [ignites firecracker]  
 
-- 
^Ï^     <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.  
 

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#399263

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2020-07-04 00:50 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-6A7874.00503504072020@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#399261
In article <1ot0bxh.1125ngw1go84a2N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
 snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>  
> > Power to levy War
>  
> hooray some more  [ignites firecracker]

Is England still in the EU? I lost track.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.    @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                                    /|\
The first law of discordiamism: The more energy   This post         / \
to make order is nore energy made into entropy.   insults Islam.  Mohammed

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#399269

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2020-07-04 09:46 +0100
Message-ID<1ot0g4g.yyxuv1a4h6aeN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#399263
Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <1ot0bxh.1125ngw1go84a2N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
>  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> 
> > vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> >  
> > > Power to levy War
> >  
> > hooray some more  [ignites firecracker]
> > 
> 
> Is England still in the EU? I lost track.
> 
 
Brexit is done; we are now in a transitional phase to allow 
trade talks to be completed, with the aim of maintaining a 
tariff-free relationship with Europe (some hopes...)  
 
The transitional period is due to finish at the end of this 
year and Boris says he won't extend it, come what may.  It's 
looking very much as though we will have "No Deal" with Europe 
and tariff (and other regulatory) barriers to trade.  
 
-- 
^Ï^     <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.  
 

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#399318

From"Sir Hømer Hall, Esq." <greg_hall@høme.fake>
Date2020-07-04 11:17 -0400
Message-ID<r971gf1g7h07t6dggqp7r418280uhcj0gl@4ax.com>
In reply to#399269
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 09:46:19 +0100, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
<...>

>Brexit is done; we are now in a transitional phase to allow 
>trade talks to be completed, with the aim of maintaining a 
>tariff-free relationship with Europe (some hopes...)  
> 
>The transitional period is due to finish at the end of this 
>year and Boris says he won't extend it, come what may.  It's 
>looking very much as though we will have "No Deal" with Europe 
>and tariff (and other regulatory) barriers to trade.  

I thank you and your stout countrymen for taking
significant action for the cause of independence from 
the New World Order aka Globalism.

-- 
Yours Truly, Sir Gregøry

"I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the
essential facts of life, and see if I could nøt learn what it had to teach, and
nøt, when I came to die, discover that I had nøt lived." __Henry David Thøreau

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#399322

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2020-07-04 08:28 -0700
Message-ID<d9msnt.iit.17.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#399318
On 2020-07-04 8:17 a.m., "Sir Hømer Hall, Esq." wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 09:46:19 +0100, snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> <...>
> 
>> Brexit is done; we are now in a transitional phase to allow
>> trade talks to be completed, with the aim of maintaining a
>> tariff-free relationship with Europe (some hopes...)
>>
>> The transitional period is due to finish at the end of this
>> year and Boris says he won't extend it, come what may.  It's
>> looking very much as though we will have "No Deal" with Europe
>> and tariff (and other regulatory) barriers to trade.
> 
> I thank you and your stout countrymen for taking
> significant action for the cause of independence from
> the New World Order aka Globalism.
> 
they just made that up to sucker you with it and you fell for it

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#399700

FromCheckmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com>
Date2020-07-06 14:04 -0700
Message-ID<d9sp6s.3gv.19.6@news.alt.net>
In reply to#399269
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate.

  On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 09:46:19 +0100  Sn!pe put forth the following notion, 
which was duly noted and recorded:


> 
> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1ot0bxh.1125ngw1go84a2N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
> >  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> > 
> > > vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Power to levy War
> > >  
> > > hooray some more  [ignites firecracker]
> > > 
> > 
> > Is England still in the EU? I lost track.
> > 
>  
> Brexit is done; we are now in a transitional phase to allow 
> trade talks to be completed, with the aim of maintaining a 
> tariff-free relationship with Europe (some hopes...)  
>  
> The transitional period is due to finish at the end of this 
> year and Boris says he won't extend it, come what may.  It's 
> looking very much as though we will have "No Deal" with Europe 
> and tariff (and other regulatory) barriers to trade.  
>  

I just heard that Boris had a change of heart regarding Wahhh! Way, and 
will NOT be using them in your 5G system going forward.  Good show, old 
bean... pip-pip, or whatever you guys say.

-- 
Checkmate ®
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#399834

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2020-07-07 08:52 +0100
Message-ID<1ot5xl9.uudsex1vaaz4fN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#399700
Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> I just heard that Boris had a change of heart regarding Wahhh! Way, and
> will NOT be using them in your 5G system going forward.  Good show, old
> bean... pip-pip, or whatever you guys say.
> 
 
Yah, jolly good show, what!  They say that we're even going to purge 
the system of already-installed kit over the next few years.  There's
quite a big groundswell of anti-Chinese op!n!on here now, and no bad
thing either.  Whether the average consumer will give up his "right" 
to have cheap sweat-shop made goods is another question, of course.  
  
-- 
^Ï^     <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.  
 

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#399859

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2020-07-07 05:32 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-22707D.05320607072020@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#399834
In article <1ot5xl9.uudsex1vaaz4fN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
 snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > I just heard that Boris had a change of heart regarding Wahhh! Way, and
> > will NOT be using them in your 5G system going forward.  Good show, old
> > bean... pip-pip, or whatever you guys say.
> > 
>  
> Yah, jolly good show, what!  They say that we're even going to purge 
> the system of already-installed kit over the next few years.  There's
> quite a big groundswell of anti-Chinese op!n!on here now, and no bad
> thing either.  Whether the average consumer will give up his "right" 
> to have cheap sweat-shop made goods is another question, of course.

Things have come to a pretty pass
Our romance is growing flat,
For you like this and the other
While I go for this and that,

Goodness knows what the end will be
Oh I don't know where I'm at
It looks as if we two will never be one
Something must be done:

You say either and I say either,
You say neither and I say neither
Either, either Neither, neither
Let's call the whole thing off.

You like potato and I like potahto
You like tomato and I like tomahto
Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto.
Let's call the whole thing off

But oh, if we call the whole thing off
Then we must part
And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.    @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                                    /|\
The first law of discordiamism: The more energy   This post         / \
to make order is nore energy made into entropy.   insults Islam.  Mohammed

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#399860

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2020-07-07 13:38 +0100
Message-ID<1ot6b5q.1vju4374yqd7hN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#399859
Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <1ot5xl9.uudsex1vaaz4fN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
>  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> 
> > Checkmate <More.Bull.Schiff@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > I just heard that Boris had a change of heart regarding Wahhh! Way, and
> > > will NOT be using them in your 5G system going forward.  Good show, old
> > > bean... pip-pip, or whatever you guys say.
> > > 
> >  
> > Yah, jolly good show, what!  They say that we're even going to purge
> > the system of already-installed kit over the next few years.  There's
> > quite a big groundswell of anti-Chinese op!n!on here now, and no bad
> > thing either.  Whether the average consumer will give up his "right"
> > to have cheap sweat-shop made goods is another question, of course.
> > 
> 
> Things have come to a pretty pass
> Our romance is growing flat,
> For you like this and the other
> While I go for this and that,
> 
> Goodness knows what the end will be
> Oh I don't know where I'm at
> It looks as if we two will never be one
> Something must be done:
> 
> You say either and I say either,
> You say neither and I say neither
> Either, either Neither, neither
> Let's call the whole thing off.
> 
> You like potato and I like potahto
> You like tomato and I like tomahto
> Potato, potahto, Tomato, tomahto.
> Let's call the whole thing off
> 
> But oh, if we call the whole thing off
> Then we must part
> And oh, if we ever part, then that might break my heart
> 
 
X-Tongue-In-Cheek: Always
X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
X-Singularity: Embrace It!  
 
-- 
^Ï^     <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.  
 

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#399880

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2020-07-07 09:24 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-407809.09235607072020@reader.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#399860
In article <1ot6b5q.1vju4374yqd7hN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
 snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> X-Tongue-In-Cheek: Always
> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
> X-Singularity: Embrace It!  

When the transitional phase goes from months to years to decades 
and the deadline speeds away past the light horizon, it's a tad 
difficult for me to take it seriouslike.

I have no opinion on brexit, but according to a quaint american 
aphorism, it's time to shit or go blind.


I can't look up at the moment if Pratchett is a politician or 
author. Firefox piddled all over the virtual memory, so I spanked 
it and sent it out of the house. This newsreader needs virtually 
no virtual memory, so I can play on usenet while everything is 
being dethrashed,

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.    @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                                    /|\
The first law of discordiamism: The more energy   This post         / \
to make order is nore energy made into entropy.   insults Islam.  Mohammed

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#399888

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2020-07-07 18:06 +0100
Message-ID<1ot6m1o.lvd1fr12ib51fN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#399880
Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <1ot6b5q.1vju4374yqd7hN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
>  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> > 
> > X-Tongue-In-Cheek: Always
> > X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
> > X-Singularity: Embrace IT!  
> > 
  
[Brexit comments expunged, being terminally boring]
 
>  
> I can't look up at the moment if Pratchett is a politician or 
> author. Firefox piddled all over the virtual memory, so I spanked 
> it and sent it out of the house. This newsreader needs virtually 
> no virtual memory, so I can play on usenet while everything is 
> being dethrashed,
> 
 
The late Terry Pratchett was the much loved author of (among others) 
the Discworld series of comic fantasy novels;  highly recommended, 
if that's your thing.  
 
"X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett" is a reference to his 
"Going Postal" story, which in some eyes is a parody on email.  

<https://xclacksoverhead.org/home/about>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_Postal>  

As it happens, I've just embarked on a re-reading of Pratchett's 
entire Discworld oeuvre, being something lighthearted to cheer me 
up in these miserable Covid-19 days.  
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld>  
 
They're very funny and very readable, if you get English humour.  
They may not be to Merkadian taste.  Magic features prominently.  
It's turtles all the way down, BTW. 
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down#History>  
 
-- 
^Ï^     <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.  
 

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#399898

Fromrecscuba_google@huntzinger.com
Date2020-07-07 10:32 -0700
Message-ID<d27c8f1e-8e98-4b1a-b825-862bebe4a38eo@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#399888
On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 1:06:52 PM UTC-4, Sn!pe wrote:
> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1ot6b5q.1vju4374yqd7hN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
> >  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> > > 
> > > X-Tongue-In-Cheek: Always
> > > X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
> > > X-Singularity: Embrace IT!  
> > > 
>   
> [Brexit comments expunged, being terminally boring]
>  
> >  
> > I can't look up at the moment if Pratchett is a politician or 
> > author. Firefox piddled all over the virtual memory, so I spanked 
> > it and sent it out of the house. This newsreader needs virtually 
> > no virtual memory, so I can play on usenet while everything is 
> > being dethrashed,
> > 
>  
> The late Terry Pratchett was the much loved author of (among others) 
> the Discworld series of comic fantasy novels;  highly recommended, 
> if that's your thing.  

FWIW, there's webpages (and debates) on the "proper" sequence
to read the discworld series; if memory serves, the one school
suggests in-order-originally-written.  Another suggests reading
"Guards Guards!" first and if you like the style, then go back
and read from the beginning.  Think there's a third recommendation
too which I can't recall. 

Overall, I lean towards #1, but I also see the merit in #2, as 
his earliest Discworld books are not as good as his later stuff, 
so I think #2 has higher likelihood of getting one hooked.  

Of course, if one is a Sci-Fi/Fantasy fan, the way I describe
Discworld is "does to Fantasy what Douglas Adam's 'Hitchhiker's
Guide' did to Sci-Fi" (namely a loving but satirically witty 
poke at the genre, particularly its clichés).  

  
> "X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett" is a reference to his 
> "Going Postal" story, which in some eyes is a parody on email.  
> 
> <https://xclacksoverhead.org/home/about>
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_Postal>  
> 
> As it happens, I've just embarked on a re-reading of Pratchett's 
> entire Discworld oeuvre, being something lighthearted to cheer me 
> up in these miserable Covid-19 days.  

Sounds like a wonderful way to spend some time.  BTW, his
early SciFi work (Dark Side of the Sun (1976); Strata (1981)) 
are both interesting/fun reads and can be found cheap.  

  
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld>  
>  
> They're very funny and very readable, if you get English humour.  
> They may not be to Merkadian taste.  Magic features prominently.  
> It's turtles all the way down, BTW. 
>  
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down#History>  


-hh

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#399899

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2020-07-07 19:26 +0100
Message-ID<1ot6qu9.ji89xr1gwou7sN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#399898
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 1:06:52 PM UTC-4, Sn!pe wrote:
> > Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <1ot6b5q.1vju4374yqd7hN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>,
> > >  snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > X-Tongue-In-Cheek: Always
> > > > X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
> > > > X-Singularity: Embrace IT!  
> > > > 
> >   
> > [Brexit comments expunged, being terminally boring]
> >  
> > >  
> > > I can't look up at the moment if Pratchett is a politician or 
> > > author. Firefox piddled all over the virtual memory, so I spanked
> > > it and sent it out of the house. This newsreader needs virtually 
> > > no virtual memory, so I can play on usenet while everything is 
> > > being dethrashed,
> > > 
> >  
> > The late Terry Pratchett was the much loved author of (among others)
> > the Discworld series of comic fantasy novels;  highly recommended, 
> > if that's your thing.  
> > 
>
> FWIW, there's webpages (and debates) on the "proper" sequence
> to read the discworld series; if memory serves, the one school
> suggests in-order-originally-written.  Another suggests reading
> "Guards Guards!" first and if you like the style, then go back
> and read from the beginning.  Think there's a third recommendation
> too which I can't recall. 
> 
> Overall, I lean towards #1, but I also see the merit in #2, as 
> his earliest Discworld books are not as good as his later stuff, 
> so I think #2 has higher likelihood of getting one hooked.  
> 
 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld#/media/File:Discworld_Reading_Order_Guide_3.0_(cropped).jpg>
 
> 
> Of course, if one is a Sci-Fi/Fantasy fan, the way I describe
> Discworld is "does to Fantasy what Douglas Adam's 'Hitchhiker's
> Guide' did to Sci-Fi" (namely a loving but satirically witty 
> poke at the genre, particularly its clichés).  
> 
>   
> > "X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett" is a reference to his 
> > "Going Postal" story, which in some eyes is a parody on email.  
> > 
> > <https://xclacksoverhead.org/home/about>
> > 
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_Postal>  
> > 
> > As it happens, I've just embarked on a re-reading of Pratchett's 
> > entire Discworld oeuvre, being something lighthearted to cheer me 
> > up in these miserable Covid-19 days.  
> > 
> 
> Sounds like a wonderful way to spend some time.  BTW, his
> early SciFi work (Dark Side of the Sun (1976); Strata (1981)) 
> are both interesting/fun reads and can be found cheap.  
> 

It must be nearly 30 years ago that I first read Pratchett and 
very much enjoyed it all.  I don't think I've read The Dark Side 
Of The Sun.  Strata, Diggers and The Carpet People were written 
for kids but are none the worse for that - so were JK Rowlings' 
"Harry Potter" stories.  
 
>   
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld>  
> >  
> > They're very funny and very readable, if you get English humour.  
> > They may not be to Merkadian taste.  Magic features prominently.  
> > It's turtles all the way down, BTW. 
> >  
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down#History>  
> 
> 
> -hh


-- 
^Ï^     <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.  
 

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