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| First post | 2018-12-28 17:04 -0800 |
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Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-12-28 17:04 -0800
Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-28 18:13 -0700
Re: Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. rachel <goldarachel@gmail.com> - 2018-12-28 17:55 -0800
A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-01 23:51 -0800
Re: A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity. Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner ๐ถ็ฌ <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-01-02 11:02 -0600
There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-03 14:38 -0800
Re: There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 17:05 -0700
Zero kinetic energy. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-03 17:34 -0800
The gravitational energy of our Universe is asymptotically approaching zero. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2019-01-04 16:35 -0800
| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-12-28 17:04 -0800 |
| Subject | Gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Dec.28--5.04pm.Seattle.2018> |
Sam Wormley wrote: > > Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures. The moon is "falling" away from the earth, 4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second, and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-28 18:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g8o01jFo1noU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242674 |
On 12/28/18 6:04 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Sam Wormley wrote: >>> Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures. > > The moon is "falling" away from the earth, > 4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second, > and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. > Gravity does not exist. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | rachel <goldarachel@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-12-28 17:55 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d03b3c99-68ab-4c6e-97f1-6cc89f6ba0d7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #242674 |
On Friday, December 28, 2018 at 5:04:42 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > Sam Wormley wrote: > > > Everything free falling in the local spacetime curvatures. > > The moon is "falling" away from the earth, > 4.3 million tons are "falling" away from the sun every second, > and gravity is slowly dying, R.I.P. So does this mean Jesus is coming back, and then we are all going to float up into the sky?
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2019-01-01 23:51 -0800 |
| Subject | A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--11.51pm.Seattle.2019> |
| In reply to | #242674 |
Michael replied: > > a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, but none of the > > "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do work, force * distance ). > > I have no issue with the heat death of the universe. Good because if you don't understand death, then you don't understand life, and you can't function properly. > > Gravity is residual exergy. > > That is simply crap you made up. A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity; "work" ( force * distance ) isn't possible. Compressing our solar system to the size of a baseball, as it once was, long ago, gives it less entropy and more exergy/gravity. If entropy didn't go up, naturally, and exergy/gravity didn't go down, naturally, our time-scape wouldn't exist.
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| From | Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner ๐ถ็ฌ <root@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2019-01-02 11:02 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity. |
| Message-ID | <6uednRDGOrkoc7HBnZ2dnUU7-d_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #244436 |
On Tue, 01 Jan 2019 23:51:48 -0800 (Seattle), LO AND BEHOLD; Jeff-Relf.Me @. determined that the following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.1--11.51pm.Seattle.2019>: โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก Michael replied: โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, but none of the โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do work, force * distance ). โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก I have no issue with the heat death of the universe. โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก Good because if you don't understand death, then you don't understand โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก life, and you can't function properly. โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก Gravity is residual exergy. โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก That is simply crap you made up. โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก A PERFECTLY uniform universe has no exergy/gravity; "work" ( force * โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก distance ) isn't possible. โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก Compressing our solar system to the size of a baseball, as it once was, โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก long ago, gives it less entropy and more exergy/gravity. โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก If entropy didn't go up, naturally, and exergy/gravity didn't go down, โกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโกโก naturally, our time-scape wouldn't exist. entropy going "up" has nothing to do with us calling the direction that gravity pulls "down". in fact, if you take note of accepted physics, gravity pulls toward the CENTER of a mass tangential to it's surface (esp. for planet-sized masses with evolved monkeys on it's surface). -- [THIS POAST HAS PASSED TRIMCHECKยฎ VALIDATION] THIS SPACE FOR RENT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6B8jGSdLA "Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer, and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Checkmate (of alt.checkmate) "Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan) - "You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor - "If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode - "I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <MPG.32c5bfefd18c9a698f0a8@news.altopia.com> - Golden Killfile, June 2005 KOTM, November 2006 Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006 Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007 Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006 Busted Urinal Award, April 2007 Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006 Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008 Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007 AUK Mascot, September 2007 Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2019-01-03 14:38 -0800 |
| Subject | There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--2.38pm.Seattle.2019> |
| In reply to | #244436 |
Michael replied: > [ a uniform heat bath universe might ] > have potential energy that can _never_ be used as exergy. There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe; so you can't fall down; kinetic energy isn't possible. > But my point simply is there is no connection between > the statistics that drive toward a heat death > and the gravitational constant G. It is a constant. So ?! Big G is irrelevant in a uniform heat bath universe.
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| From | % <persent@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-03 17:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe. |
| Message-ID | <bsith8.cvn.19.1@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #244990 |
On 2019-01-03 3:38 p.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Michael replied: >> [ a uniform heat bath universe might ] >> have potential energy that can _never_ be used as exergy. > > There's no "down" in a uniform heat bath universe; > so you can't fall down; kinetic energy isn't possible. > >> But my point simply is there is no connection between >> the statistics that drive toward a heat death >> and the gravitational constant G. It is a constant. > > So ?! Big G is irrelevant in a uniform heat bath universe. > you would know
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2019-01-03 17:34 -0800 |
| Subject | Zero kinetic energy. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.3--5.34pm.Seattle.2019> |
| In reply to | #244990 |
Michael replied:
> > Big G is irrelevant in a uniform heat bath universe.
>
> Wait a minute, you keep posting stuff like "gravity is dying off"
> or "gravity is slowly dying". What does that mean,
> if not Big G is decreasing to zero?
General Relativity's G is a constant, of course;
no matter, "a uniform heat bath universe" has:
No curvature, No exergy, No "down".
Wikipedia says:
"The Big Freeze" is a scenario under which
continued expansion results in a universe that
asymptotically approaches absolute zero temperature.
This scenario, in combination with the Big Rip scenario,
is currently gaining ground as the most important hypothesis.
In other words: Zero kinetic energy.
WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2019-01-04 16:35 -0800 |
| Subject | The gravitational energy of our Universe is asymptotically approaching zero. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jan.4--4.35pm.Seattle.2019> |
| In reply to | #245063 |
Michael replied: > > Gravity is residual exergy, and it's dying off. > > It's not dying off if Big G is unchanging. It will just be > less relevant over time, at some time in the future. The gravitational energy of our Universe is asymptotically approaching zero. "The Big Freeze" has no kinetic energy, much less gravitational energy. There's no "down" direction. WikiPedia.ORG/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe
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