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Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ?

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.checkmate, talk.politics.guns
Subject Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ?
Date 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
Message-ID <fngs47Fb1d7U7@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> On 6/2/2018 5:28 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fng73aF79g8U1@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>> 
>>> On 6/2/18 9:14 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fneumeFu37vU2@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> On 6/1/18 11:47 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>> In news:fnerqlFtkheU1@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>> On 6/1/18 11:13 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> In news:fneq4rFtb3qU1@mid.individual.net,
>>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/18 6:50 PM, max headroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In news:mMqdnRBdYqvIBIzGnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@giganews.com,
>>>>>>>>>> Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus ???
>>>>>>>>>> <root@127.0.0.1> typed:
>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> if you were a real man you wouldn't need a gun.
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are you implying cops aren't real men (or women)?
>> 
>>>>>>>>> I most certainly would not take that as an implication from that
>>>>>>>>> statement. Odd if you do.
>> 
>>>>>>>> Odd that you don't.
>> 
>>>>>>> Would require ignoring basic context of our society....
>> 
>>>>>> Or it would require assuming additional information not presented.
>>>>>> All we have to go on are the words s/he wrote.
>> 
>>>>> Of course the context of a society requires information not present in
>>>>> every sentence uttered....
>> 
>>>> The context wherein I take it is talk.politics.guns, and here "if you
>>>> were a real man you
>>>> wouldn't need a gun" is foolish.
>> 
>>> We can debate how reasonable that statement was (I would have to look
>>> into the context to even try to) but the fact is you twisted that to
>>> suggest he was saying police are not real men, which required you to
>>> ignore context of US society (and many others).
>> 
>> How would you know? You just admitted that you are ignorant of the context.
>> 
>>> You can keep trying to defend your word twisting -- does not change the
>>> fact you twisted his
>>> words. You pushed a pedantic interpretation.
>> 
>> I took his words at face value. You can interpret them any way you want.
>> 
>>>>> ... Again, not sure how you could not see this. You  are, actively,
>>>>> I assume, taking things FAR too literally and doing so in a way to
>>>>> completely twist meanings.
>> 
>>>> I see. Your desire to imply meaning not explicit in the written word
>>>> partially explains how you can argue that "bear arms" does not mean
>>>> "to carry a weapon," but a much more limited interpretation of "to
>>>> carry a weapon in a military capacity."
>> 
>>> I am saying, in both cases, we should go with the ACTUAL meaning of the
>>> words and not a silly pedantic misinterpretation.
>> 
>> Misinterpret all you want. I take them at face value.
>> 
>>> But see how you seek to twist even that.
>> 
>>>>>>> ... Maybe if one was not from America?
>> 
>>>>>> I suspect YFNPWHE isn't.
>> 
>>>>> I do not know... though I bet much is the same in most cultures.
>> 
>>>> Most cultures don't have a constitutionally recognised right to keep
>>>> and bear arms.
>> 
>>> Irrelevant to your pedantic word play to twist meanings.
>> 
>> No word play involved on my part.
>> 
>>>>>>>> No cop will work his/her shift without a gun, therefore they must
>>>>>>>> not be real men, according to YFNPWHE.
>> 
>>>>>>> What a bizarre set of assumptions from you. Curious.
>> 
>>>>>> Nope.
>> 
>>>>> I do hope you are just trolling.
>> 
>>>> My context is talk.politics.guns. YMMV
>> 
>>> You play pedantic word games to avoid meaning and context.
>> 
>> You invent context to satisfy your desires.
> 
> And so does everyone else, from the days when
> rights of Englishmen used the term to mean carrying a sword while 
> traveling (and not traveling in the army)
> 
> I've already posted the evidence from the Oxford English Dictionary that 
> the number1 definition is to carry arms while the 1.1 definition is to 
> serve in the army. Anyone not totally lazy can easily look it up.
> 
> Somehow Snit seems to find some biased study for an agenda more credible 
> than THE accepted world reference for the English language.
> 
> 

You rejected the use of the phrase to push an agenda. 

Not sure what else needs to be said.

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    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 08:12 -0700
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                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:35 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:19 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:40 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:26 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:11 -0700
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                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
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                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
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    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
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