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News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-25 15:09 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-25 05:02 +0000
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-25 16:22 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-25 05:48 +0000
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-25 19:26 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-25 16:01 +0000
Re: News flash two. Jhulian Waldby <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> - 2024-11-25 13:41 -0600
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-26 07:14 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-26 01:54 +0000
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-26 07:13 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-26 01:52 +0000
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-26 13:16 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-26 02:19 +0000
Re: News flash two. Tiberius Kane <default@netrek.org> - 2024-11-25 20:25 -0600
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-26 04:55 +0000
Re: News flash two. "Richard Carl Silk" <Richard.Silk@Juno.Com> - 2024-11-28 12:07 -0600
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-26 13:28 +1100
Re: News flash two. Jhulian Waldby <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> - 2024-11-25 22:09 -0600
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-26 19:40 +1100
Re: News flash two. Jhulian Waldby <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> - 2024-11-26 18:37 -0600
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-27 14:12 +1100
Re: News flash two. Jhulian Waldby <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> - 2024-11-27 03:43 -0600
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-28 07:14 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-26 04:54 +0000
Re: News flash two. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 22:35 -0600
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-26 19:56 +1100
Re: News flash two. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 18:41 -0600
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-28 12:24 +1100
Re: News flash two. Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 21:06 -0600
Re: News flash two. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-11-27 20:14 -0800
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-28 05:11 +0000
Re: News flash two. Richard James Coffey <rjcoffey@coffey.school.nz> - 2024-11-28 07:35 +0000
Re: News flash two. Gavin Short <gshort59@post.com> - 2024-11-28 07:37 +0000
Re: News flash two. Fair Dinkum <fair@dinkum.invalid> - 2024-11-28 07:17 +0000
Re: News flash two. Curt Riley <criley87@proton.me> - 2024-11-28 06:15 +0000
Re: News flash two. J.B. Kraft <jbk71@null.net> - 2024-11-28 08:22 +0000
Re: News flash two. Bible Banging Bogan <bible@banging.bogan> - 2024-11-28 06:18 +0000
Re: News flash two. Bible Banging Bogan <bible@banging.bogan> - 2024-11-28 08:25 +0000
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-28 20:15 +1100
Re: News flash two. Richard James Coffey <rjcoffey@coffey.school.nz> - 2024-11-28 06:29 +0000
Re: News flash two. In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> - 2024-11-28 19:42 +1100
Re: News flash two. jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-28 15:02 +0000
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| From | In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 14:12 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vi62ng$3ngjh$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383325 |
On 27/11/2024 11:37 am, Jhulian Waldby wrote: > In the Name of Jesus wrote: >> On 26/11/2024 3:09 pm, Jhulian Waldby wrote: >>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>> On 26/11/2024 1:19 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>> On 26/11/2024 12:52 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>> On 26/11/2024 3:01 am, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:48 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:02 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created itself? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A: All of 'em. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> how many fools does it take to believe god created itself >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As many idiots as there are. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be here. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Whys iss dat? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No thing can create itselfer. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> nope nope nope, if you can assume that, other people can also >>>>>>>>>>> assume their own cosmology and both would be on equal footing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Man does not own reality, Buddy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What? You don't like the reasoning? :-). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you are contradicting yourself, the ontology you adhere to is >>>>>>>>> manmade. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, nope, nope. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I gave you a fair go. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now you have to go on your perfect way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so that's it? you are not going to help me become one with god?? >>>>>>> woe is all of us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> on the other hand, i can help you get one with reality. let us >>>>>>> begin our immaculate journey today, as the first exercise, >>>>>>> question the nature of "eternal". >>>>>> >>>>>> The rabbit holes are for you and you alone now. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be here. No >>>>>> thing can create itself. End of story. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> rabit holes are for all of us, as god intended. if you were to >>>>> define eternal without using the word god, how would you define it? >>>> >>>> Ask the Easter bunny next year. >>> >>> Is he in your Rolodex? >> >> You're showing your age. >> >> >> >> >> In the Name of Jesus >> > Easter bunny is not a Christian meme as far as I recall. All those > bunnies and chocolates and eggs serve to conceal the gruesome nature of > the holiday as Christian. This is common knowledge too. That has got less to do with me but more to do with your impression of false sinner Christianity. You could always take your Rolodex and raise the issue with them? In the Name of Jesus -- God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory. Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us. Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory." "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything." "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of God. When you find Him you have found the author." "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore, sin is not what you do; it is what you are." "Compromise will condemn you." "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus." "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all." "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to know that?" "The way of truth is the testimony of life." "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall where God intends." "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith." "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all live, by faith." "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me." "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look ahead." "You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart." "Priority is everything." "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence." "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander it or to place it where it truly belongs." "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie." "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to an ignorant straw man." "Wait, rest, be still, and know." "No man can wash his own hands!!!" "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say, and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect." "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found." "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is." "Man is not the centre of being." "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature." "And then the Lord said, "I see everything." "Man has no greater idol than his own will." "Where is God hiding? He isn't." "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them." "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's willingness to believe." "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness, and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose." "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always full of hope." "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God." "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today." "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such is the love of God." "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life." "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is still according to my power," says the Lord. "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in order to explain the existence of existence." "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain." "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality. What a gift in a fallen world!" "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!" "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth the glory of God" "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the road." "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being punished; it is what you are left with." "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to birth it in a man." "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness." "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin." "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord." "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry." "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon." "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!" "There is no such thing as random!" "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart." "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God, you know nothing." "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you." "No sinner is sinless in any way." "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life." "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust." "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead." "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners." "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you really are." "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself." "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet." "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that light did not ever become darkness." "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your daily life to find Him in Person. He's there." "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise." "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God." "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?" "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with all for who He is." "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord." "The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass as God."
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| From | Jhulian Waldby <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 03:43 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <lqo7ucFdhsmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #383343 |
In the Name of Jesus wrote: > On 27/11/2024 11:37 am, Jhulian Waldby wrote: >> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>> On 26/11/2024 3:09 pm, Jhulian Waldby wrote: >>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>> On 26/11/2024 1:19 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>> On 26/11/2024 12:52 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 26/11/2024 3:01 am, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:48 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:02 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created itself? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A: All of 'em. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how many fools does it take to believe god created itself >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As many idiots as there are. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be here. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Whys iss dat? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No thing can create itselfer. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nope nope nope, if you can assume that, other people can >>>>>>>>>>>> also assume their own cosmology and both would be on equal >>>>>>>>>>>> footing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Man does not own reality, Buddy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What? You don't like the reasoning? :-). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you are contradicting yourself, the ontology you adhere to is >>>>>>>>>> manmade. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope, nope, nope. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I gave you a fair go. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now you have to go on your perfect way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> so that's it? you are not going to help me become one with god?? >>>>>>>> woe is all of us. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on the other hand, i can help you get one with reality. let us >>>>>>>> begin our immaculate journey today, as the first exercise, >>>>>>>> question the nature of "eternal". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The rabbit holes are for you and you alone now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be here. No >>>>>>> thing can create itself. End of story. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> rabit holes are for all of us, as god intended. if you were to >>>>>> define eternal without using the word god, how would you define it? >>>>> >>>>> Ask the Easter bunny next year. >>>> >>>> Is he in your Rolodex? >>> >>> You're showing your age. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In the Name of Jesus >>> >> Easter bunny is not a Christian meme as far as I recall. All those >> bunnies and chocolates and eggs serve to conceal the gruesome nature >> of the holiday as Christian. This is common knowledge too. > > That has got less to do with me but more to do with your impression of > false sinner Christianity. You could always take your Rolodex and raise > the issue with them? Ok, I'll do that. Meanwhile, you focus on 3rd grade reading comprehension for awhile and we'll get back together in 7 days and put this house together.
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| From | In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 07:14 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vi7ujo$5dqb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383366 |
On 27/11/2024 8:43 pm, Jhulian Waldby wrote: > In the Name of Jesus wrote: >> On 27/11/2024 11:37 am, Jhulian Waldby wrote: >>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>> On 26/11/2024 3:09 pm, Jhulian Waldby wrote: >>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>> On 26/11/2024 1:19 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>> On 26/11/2024 12:52 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 26/11/2024 3:01 am, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:48 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:02 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created itself? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A: All of 'em. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how many fools does it take to believe god created itself >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As many idiots as there are. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whys iss dat? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No thing can create itselfer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> nope nope nope, if you can assume that, other people can >>>>>>>>>>>>> also assume their own cosmology and both would be on equal >>>>>>>>>>>>> footing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Man does not own reality, Buddy. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What? You don't like the reasoning? :-). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> you are contradicting yourself, the ontology you adhere to is >>>>>>>>>>> manmade. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope, nope, nope. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I gave you a fair go. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now you have to go on your perfect way. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> so that's it? you are not going to help me become one with >>>>>>>>> god?? woe is all of us. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> on the other hand, i can help you get one with reality. let us >>>>>>>>> begin our immaculate journey today, as the first exercise, >>>>>>>>> question the nature of "eternal". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The rabbit holes are for you and you alone now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be here. No >>>>>>>> thing can create itself. End of story. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rabit holes are for all of us, as god intended. if you were to >>>>>>> define eternal without using the word god, how would you define it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Ask the Easter bunny next year. >>>>> >>>>> Is he in your Rolodex? >>>> >>>> You're showing your age. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In the Name of Jesus >>>> >>> Easter bunny is not a Christian meme as far as I recall. All those >>> bunnies and chocolates and eggs serve to conceal the gruesome nature >>> of the holiday as Christian. This is common knowledge too. >> >> That has got less to do with me but more to do with your impression of >> false sinner Christianity. You could always take your Rolodex and >> raise the issue with them? > > Ok, I'll do that. Meanwhile, you focus on 3rd grade reading > comprehension for awhile and we'll get back together in 7 days and put > this house together. Trivia won't do that. In the Name of Jesus -- God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory. Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us. Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory." "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything." "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of God. When you find Him you have found the author." "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore, sin is not what you do; it is what you are." "Compromise will condemn you." "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus." "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all." "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to know that?" "The way of truth is the testimony of life." "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall where God intends." "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith." "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all live, by faith." "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me." "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look ahead." "You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart." "Priority is everything." "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence." "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander it or to place it where it truly belongs." "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie." "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to an ignorant straw man." "Wait, rest, be still, and know." "No man can wash his own hands!!!" "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say, and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect." "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found." "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is." "Man is not the centre of being." "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature." "And then the Lord said, "I see everything." "Man has no greater idol than his own will." "Where is God hiding? He isn't." "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them." "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's willingness to believe." "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness, and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose." "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always full of hope." "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God." "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today." "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such is the love of God." "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life." "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is still according to my power," says the Lord. "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in order to explain the existence of existence." "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain." "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality. What a gift in a fallen world!" "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!" "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth the glory of God" "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the road." "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being punished; it is what you are left with." "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to birth it in a man." "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness." "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin." "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord." "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry." "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon." "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!" "There is no such thing as random!" "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart." "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God, you know nothing." "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you." "No sinner is sinless in any way." "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life." "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust." "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead." "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners." "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you really are." "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself." "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet." "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that light did not ever become darkness." "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your daily life to find Him in Person. He's there." "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise." "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God." "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?" "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with all for who He is." "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord." "The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass as God."
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2024-11-26 04:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <f7e3756d-baf3-7623-3747-5ffdc92d2bc5@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #383259 |
In the Name of Jesus wrote: > On 26/11/2024 1:19 pm, jojo wrote: >> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>> On 26/11/2024 12:52 pm, jojo wrote: >>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>> On 26/11/2024 3:01 am, jojo wrote: >>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:48 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 25/11/2024 4:02 pm, jojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything >>>>>>>>>>> created itself? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A: All of 'em. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> how many fools does it take to believe god created itself >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As many idiots as there are. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be >>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whys iss dat? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No thing can create itselfer. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> nope nope nope, if you can assume that, other people can >>>>>>>> also assume their own cosmology and both would be on >>>>>>>> equal footing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Man does not own reality, Buddy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What? You don't like the reasoning? :-). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're an idiot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> you are contradicting yourself, the ontology you adhere to >>>>>> is manmade. >>>>> >>>>> Nope, nope, nope. >>>>> >>>>> I gave you a fair go. >>>>> >>>>> Now you have to go on your perfect way. >>>>> >>>> >>>> so that's it? you are not going to help me become one with >>>> god?? woe is all of us. >>>> >>>> on the other hand, i can help you get one with reality. let >>>> us begin our immaculate journey today, as the first exercise, >>>> question the nature of "eternal". >>> >>> The rabbit holes are for you and you alone now. >>> >>> In the beginning, God, God eternal or nothing would be here. >>> No thing can create itself. End of story. >>> >>> >> >> rabit holes are for all of us, as god intended. if you were to >> define eternal without using the word god, how would you define >> it? > > Ask the Easter bunny next year. > heh, you are trapped in your own prison, afraid to see what lies beyond the eternal cage.
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| From | Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 22:35 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi3j74$3aik7$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383181 |
On 11/24/2024 10:09 PM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything created itself? > > A: All of 'em. > You don't understand physics, Michael, either classical or modern, and you don't want to, either! You won't answer this, Michael, but how can two gamma ray photons, which are massless, collide and create an electron and a positron, both of which have mass? Dawn
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| From | In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-26 19:56 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vi42go$3bo45$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383271 |
On 26/11/2024 3:35 pm, Dawn Flood wrote: > On 11/24/2024 10:09 PM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything created itself? >> >> A: All of 'em. >> > > You don't understand physics, Michael, either classical or modern, and > you don't want to, either! > > You won't answer this, Michael, but how can two gamma ray photons, which > are massless, collide and create an electron and a positron, both of > which have mass? > > Dawn No thing can create itself. Make love to that physic, Gaslighter Gertrude. In the Name of Jesus -- God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory. Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us. Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory." "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything." "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of God. When you find Him you have found the author." "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore, sin is not what you do; it is what you are." "Compromise will condemn you." "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus." "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all." "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to know that?" "The way of truth is the testimony of life." "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall where God intends." "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith." "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all live, by faith." "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me." "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look ahead." "You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart." "Priority is everything." "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence." "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander it or to place it where it truly belongs." "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie." "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to an ignorant straw man." "Wait, rest, be still, and know." "No man can wash his own hands!!!" "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say, and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect." "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found." "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is." "Man is not the centre of being." "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature." "And then the Lord said, "I see everything." "Man has no greater idol than his own will." "Where is God hiding? He isn't." "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them." "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's willingness to believe." "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness, and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose." "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always full of hope." "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God." "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today." "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such is the love of God." "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life." "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is still according to my power," says the Lord. "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in order to explain the existence of existence." "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain." "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality. What a gift in a fallen world!" "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!" "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth the glory of God" "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the road." "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being punished; it is what you are left with." "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to birth it in a man." "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness." "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin." "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord." "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry." "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon." "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!" "There is no such thing as random!" "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart." "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God, you know nothing." "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you." "No sinner is sinless in any way." "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life." "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust." "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead." "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners." "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you really are." "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself." "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet." "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that light did not ever become darkness." "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your daily life to find Him in Person. He's there." "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise." "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God." "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?" "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with all for who He is." "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."
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| From | Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 18:41 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi8e74$7r1l$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383278 |
On 11/26/2024 2:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > On 26/11/2024 3:35 pm, Dawn Flood wrote: >> On 11/24/2024 10:09 PM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything created itself? >>> >>> A: All of 'em. >>> >> >> You don't understand physics, Michael, either classical or modern, and >> you don't want to, either! >> >> You won't answer this, Michael, but how can two gamma ray photons, >> which are massless, collide and create an electron and a positron, >> both of which have mass? >> >> Dawn > > No thing can create itself. Make love to that physic, Gaslighter Gertrude. > Michael, I have told you this before: "The Universe is NOT 'a thing'." Your falling (once again) into the Fallacy of Decomposition -- "In a flock of sheep, it is true that every sheep has a mother, but it does not therefore follow that 'the flock' has a mother." Dawn
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| From | In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 12:24 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vi8gnu$82gm$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383410 |
On 28/11/2024 11:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote: > On 11/26/2024 2:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >> On 26/11/2024 3:35 pm, Dawn Flood wrote: >>> On 11/24/2024 10:09 PM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything created itself? >>>> >>>> A: All of 'em. >>>> >>> >>> You don't understand physics, Michael, either classical or modern, >>> and you don't want to, either! >>> >>> You won't answer this, Michael, but how can two gamma ray photons, >>> which are massless, collide and create an electron and a positron, >>> both of which have mass? >>> >>> Dawn >> >> No thing can create itself. Make love to that physic, Gaslighter >> Gertrude. >> > > Michael, > > I have told you this before: > > "The Universe is NOT 'a thing'." Alright then, call it Gerald. > Your falling (once again) into the Fallacy of Decomposition -- "In a > flock of sheep, it is true that every sheep has a mother, but it does > not therefore follow that 'the flock' has a mother." > > Dawn So, there is no Creator based on that? :-). There is not a 'following (straw man)' here, just fact. Your little analogy is merely pretending to say something, but it is just meaningless waffle. You talk shallow atheist gaslight crap, Dawn, you always have. No amount of sheep can create themselves. In the Name of Jesus -- God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory. Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us. Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory." "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything." "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of God. When you find Him you have found the author." "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore, sin is not what you do; it is what you are." "Compromise will condemn you." "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus." "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all." "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to know that?" "The way of truth is the testimony of life." "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall where God intends." "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith." "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all live, by faith." "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me." "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look ahead." "You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart." "Priority is everything." "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence." "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander it or to place it where it truly belongs." "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie." "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to an ignorant straw man." "Wait, rest, be still, and know." "No man can wash his own hands!!!" "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say, and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect." "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found." "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is." "Man is not the centre of being." "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature." "And then the Lord said, "I see everything." "Man has no greater idol than his own will." "Where is God hiding? He isn't." "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them." "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's willingness to believe." "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness, and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose." "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always full of hope." "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God." "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today." "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such is the love of God." "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life." "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is still according to my power," says the Lord. "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in order to explain the existence of existence." "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain." "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality. What a gift in a fallen world!" "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!" "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth the glory of God" "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the road." "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being punished; it is what you are left with." "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to birth it in a man." "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness." "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin." "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord." "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry." "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon." "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!" "There is no such thing as random!" "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart." "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God, you know nothing." "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you." "No sinner is sinless in any way." "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life." "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust." "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead." "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners." "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you really are." "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself." "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet." "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that light did not ever become darkness." "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your daily life to find Him in Person. He's there." "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise." "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God." "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?" "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with all for who He is." "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord." "The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass as God."
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| From | Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 21:06 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi8mod$cqmj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383413 |
On 11/27/2024 7:24 PM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: > On 28/11/2024 11:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote: >> On 11/26/2024 2:56 AM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>> On 26/11/2024 3:35 pm, Dawn Flood wrote: >>>> On 11/24/2024 10:09 PM, In the Name of Jesus wrote: >>>>> Q: How many idiots does it take to believe everything created itself? >>>>> >>>>> A: All of 'em. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You don't understand physics, Michael, either classical or modern, >>>> and you don't want to, either! >>>> >>>> You won't answer this, Michael, but how can two gamma ray photons, >>>> which are massless, collide and create an electron and a positron, >>>> both of which have mass? >>>> >>>> Dawn >>> >>> No thing can create itself. Make love to that physic, Gaslighter >>> Gertrude. >>> >> >> Michael, >> >> I have told you this before: >> >> "The Universe is NOT 'a thing'." > > Alright then, call it Gerald. > > >> Your falling (once again) into the Fallacy of Decomposition -- "In a >> flock of sheep, it is true that every sheep has a mother, but it does >> not therefore follow that 'the flock' has a mother." >> >> Dawn > > So, there is no Creator based on that? :-). > > There is not a 'following (straw man)' here, just fact. Your little > analogy is merely pretending to say something, but it is just > meaningless waffle. > > You talk shallow atheist gaslight crap, Dawn, you always have. > > No amount of sheep can create themselves. > Absolutely! Like every other life form, sheep evolved!! And, so, they did not "create" themselves, and no one has ever claimed otherwise. All that I am saying is that Universe is simply different than sheep, or, for that matter, everything else that is contained *within* the Universe. Look at this way, "Did God 'cause' the interior angels of triangles (at least those on flat surfaces) to sum to 180 degrees?" If so, could God have chosen otherwise? Can you visualize such a triangle? Dawn
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 20:14 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vi8qmi$db99$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383423 |
Dawn Flood wrote: >> >> No amount of sheep can create themselves. >> > > > Absolutely! Like every other life form, sheep evolved!! And, so, Nobody has witnessed or has evidence of abiogenesis. We have hypotheses not theories. Believe whatever gives you a happy. > Look at this way, "Did God 'cause' the interior angels of > triangles (at least those on flat surfaces) to sum to 180 > degrees?" If so, could God have chosen otherwise? Can you > visualize such a triangle? In general you cannot examine a surface to measure its curvature. We prove a relation between sum of interior angles and curvature. Then draw a triangle in the space and measure angles. The three vertices define a plane even without seeing the plane. That gives the curvature of the plane in the area of the triangle. So it is not about whether a god can do geometry but what kind of warped space a god plopped us onto. You have to ask correct answers to get sane answers. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
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| From | jojo <f00@0f0.00f> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 05:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4d6a5836-a66d-01bb-251f-58ddbe4271bf@shinku.aoyagi.konjou> |
| In reply to | #383428 |
Siri Cruise wrote: > Dawn Flood wrote: >>> >>> No amount of sheep can create themselves. >>> >> >> >> Absolutely! Like every other life form, sheep evolved!! And, so, > > Nobody has witnessed or has evidence of abiogenesis. We have > hypotheses not theories. Believe whatever gives you a happy. as yet, but its like consciousness, will be figured out. >> Look at this way, "Did God 'cause' the interior angels of >> triangles (at least those on flat surfaces) to sum to 180 >> degrees?" If so, could God have chosen otherwise? Can you >> visualize such a triangle? > > In general you cannot examine a surface to measure its curvature. > We prove a relation between sum of interior angles and curvature. > Then draw a triangle in the space and measure angles. The three > vertices define a plane even without seeing the plane. That gives > the curvature of the plane in the area of the triangle. > > So it is not about whether a god can do geometry but what kind of > warped space a god plopped us onto. > > You have to ask correct answers to get sane answers. > flat surface, an affine euclidean space.
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| From | Richard James Coffey <rjcoffey@coffey.school.nz> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 07:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vi96fa$1d7l7$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #383432 |
On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:11:28 +0000 jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote: This notion of consciousness being figured out is a bit too optimistic, dont you think? The complexities of the human mind are not something to be unraveled unscrupulously. > flat surface, an affine euclidean space. Were talking about dimensions here, but lets not dilute the impact of what consciousness truly represents. Its not just a flat surface; its a robust sierra of experiences and emotions. As Proverbs 4:7 reminds us, Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. Thats the real challenge.
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| From | Gavin Short <gshort59@post.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 07:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vi96ki$1d7ql$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #383432 |
On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:11:28 +0000 jojo <f00@0f0.00f> wrote: The insinuation that consciousness is merely a puzzle to be solved is a stupendous oversimplification. It is not a flat surface, but a complex tapestry woven with the threads of experience, history, and the crones of our existence.
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| From | Fair Dinkum <fair@dinkum.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 07:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vi95f7$1d6e4$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #383428 |
On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 20:14:08 -0800 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote: This notion of belief as a refuge is intriguing, yet it flunks the rigor of inquiry. > "So it is not about whether a god can do geometry but what kind of warped space a god plopped us onto." The idea of a "warped space" is faceted, suggesting a complexity that invites deeper exploration. > "You have to ask correct answers to get sane answers." Indeed, the questions we pose shape our understanding, much like calligraphy shapes the written word. But are we truly prepared for the answers that may ache with discomfort?
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| From | Curt Riley <criley87@proton.me> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 06:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vi91qg$1d12f$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #383423 |
On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:06:54 -0600 Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote: > did not "create" themselves, and no one has ever claimed otherwise. All > that I am saying is that Universe is simply different than sheep, or, > for that matter, everything else that is contained within the Universe. > > Look at this way, "Did God 'cause' the interior angels of triangles (at > least those on flat surfaces) to sum to 180 degrees?" If so, could God > have chosen otherwise? Can you visualize such a triangle? Your argument about evolution is compelling, yet it raises questions about the nature of creation itself. The idea that the universe operates under a different set of rules than sheep is intriguing, but it feels somewhat tarnished by the lack of clarity on what those rules are. The triangle analogy is clever, but does it truly encapsulate the complexity of divine choice? Can we really visualize a triangle without its angles? I encourage a deeper exploration of how these concepts interconnect. After all, the medallion of understanding often requires us to confront our own airsick assumptions about existence and creation.
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| From | J.B. Kraft <jbk71@null.net> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 08:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vi998e$1dc94$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #383443 |
On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:15:44 -0000 (UTC) Curt Riley <criley87@proton.me> wrote: > The idea that the universe operates under a different set of rules than sheep is intriguing, but it feels somewhat tarnished by the lack of clarity on what those rules are. > The triangle analogy is clever, but does it truly encapsulate the complexity of divine choice? The complexity of divine choice cannot be reduced to mere geometry. Its a massacre of understanding to think we can predict the divine through such limited frameworks. The universe is a locomotive of intricacies, and we must tentatively embrace that. Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things. (Revelation 4:11)
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| From | Bible Banging Bogan <bible@banging.bogan> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 06:18 +0000 |
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:06:54 -0600 Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote: The notion that sheep, or any life form, evolved is a point of contention among progressives and traditionalists alike. While its true that evolution is a scientific fact, the leap to equate the universe's nature with that of sheep is a stretch. This analogy, while winsomely crafted, seems to abettor a misunderstanding of divine choice versus mathematical certainty. The universe, unlike triangles, is not bound by such rigid constraints. Can we truly visualize a universe where the laws of physics are negotiable?
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| From | Bible Banging Bogan <bible@banging.bogan> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 08:25 +0000 |
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:18:53 -0000 (UTC) Bible Banging Bogan <bible@banging.bogan> wrote: > While its true that evolution is a scientific fact, the leap to equate the universe's nature with that of sheep is a stretch. > This analogy, while winsomely crafted, seems to abettor a misunderstanding of divine choice versus mathematical certainty. The metaphysics of evolution indeed raises dubiety. To equate divine choice with mere mathematical constructs is to impair our understanding of creation. The universe's laws are not negotiable; they are coded into existence by a higher power. Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things. (Revelation 4:11)
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| From | In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 20:15 +1100 |
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On 28/11/2024 7:25 pm, Bible Banging Bogan wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 06:18:53 -0000 (UTC) > Bible Banging Bogan <bible@banging.bogan> wrote: > >> While its true that evolution is a scientific fact, Rubbish. It's God's versatility. That's the fact. "Evolution" is ridiculous, idiotic, faulty man ignorant theory, as everything is an original. And since that is the truth, an original does not have the power of creation within itself to create more than what it is, and bring forth another original. You probably won't get it. Only God has the power of creation. That which is created does not. In the Name of Jesus the leap to equate the universe's nature with that of sheep is a stretch. >> This analogy, while winsomely crafted, seems to abettor a misunderstanding of divine choice versus mathematical certainty. > > The metaphysics of evolution indeed raises dubiety. To equate divine choice with mere mathematical constructs is to impair our understanding of creation. The universe's laws are not negotiable; they are coded into existence by a higher power. > > Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things. (Revelation 4:11) > > -- God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory. Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John 10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were YET sinners, Christ died for us. Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory." "If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything." "What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of God. When you find Him you have found the author." "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore, sin is not what you do; it is what you are." "Compromise will condemn you." "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus." "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all." "You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to know that?" "The way of truth is the testimony of life." "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall where God intends." "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith." "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all live, by faith." "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me." "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look ahead." "You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart." "Priority is everything." "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence." "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander it or to place it where it truly belongs." "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie." "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to an ignorant straw man." "Wait, rest, be still, and know." "No man can wash his own hands!!!" "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say, and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect." "The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found." "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is." "Man is not the centre of being." "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature." "And then the Lord said, "I see everything." "Man has no greater idol than his own will." "Where is God hiding? He isn't." "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them." "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's willingness to believe." "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness, and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose." "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always full of hope." "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass through it for a sinner to play God." "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today." "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such is the love of God." "The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life." "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is still according to my power," says the Lord. "What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in order to explain the existence of existence." "Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain." "Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality. What a gift in a fallen world!" "Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!" "Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth the glory of God" "God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the road." "It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being punished; it is what you are left with." "Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to birth it in a man." "The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is self-righteousness." "A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin." "A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection. The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord." "It is all about God or it is all about idolatry." "The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon." "There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!" "There is no such thing as random!" "You can't truly love without it being with all your heart." "No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God, you know nothing." "You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you." "No sinner is sinless in any way." "Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life." "What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust." "God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead." "Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners." "Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you really are." "Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself." "But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet." "That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that light did not ever become darkness." "You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your daily life to find Him in Person. He's there." "What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise." "It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God." "God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to speak?" "It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with all for who He is." "A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord." "The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass as God."
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| From | Richard James Coffey <rjcoffey@coffey.school.nz> |
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| Date | 2024-11-28 06:29 +0000 |
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:06:54 -0600 Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote: > And, so, they did not "create" themselves, and no one has ever claimed otherwise. Your analogy is intriguing, but it seems to unnerve the very essence of divine choice. Can we truly equate mathematical truths with the creative breath of God? "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things." (Revelation 4:11)
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