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  TimeMachine like Backup for Windows usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2017-03-13 22:30 +0100
    Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows Richard Lechner <r.lechner@gmx.net> - 2017-03-14 05:15 +0000
      Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2017-03-14 09:56 +0100
        Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows Richard Lechner <r.lechner@gmx.net> - 2017-03-14 15:29 +0000
          Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2017-03-14 17:06 +0100
            Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows Richard Lechner <r.lechner@gmx.net> - 2017-03-16 05:42 +0000
              Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2017-03-16 08:48 +0100
    Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows David Arnstein <arnstein+usenet@pobox.com> - 2017-03-25 00:12 +0000
      Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows Richard Lechner <r.lechner@gmx.net> - 2017-03-25 05:28 +0000
      Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2017-03-25 18:53 +0100
        Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> - 2017-03-25 16:59 -0400
        Re: TimeMachine like Backup for Windows usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de (Dirk Wagner) - 2017-03-28 13:42 +0200

#670 — TimeMachine like Backup for Windows

Hi,

I am using TimeMachine on my mac since 10 Years and it helped me out of
some trouble.

For a small business runing a pc with Windows 7, I am searching for a
similary programm.
This program should

- work on more than one backup target (e.g. 3 rotating USB-HDDs)

- should not take care which target is connected to the computer

- clean up target drives by deleting older backups

- enable complete restores for each time a file was backed up.

- easy setup and allmost no interaction if once configured.

I tried acronis and nova backup - both fail at some of the points.
A big problem seems to be, the order of targets.
Acronis wants to have a certain tape for a certain job, so I have to
configure 3 jobs and have to make shure, the right target is connected
for the job.
With TimeMachine this doesn't matter. If any of the targets is
connected, the backup is running.

Any ideas

Thanks

dirk

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#671

Am Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:30:04 +0100 schrieb Dirk Wagner:

> Any ideas

Cobian

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#672

Richard Lechner <r.lechner@gmx.net> wrote:

 
> Cobian

+ write data on every target, which contains the target folder.

- does not create a full backup on a new target, but only on the target
connected at the very first time the job was performed.
So if this target-media gets corrupted, the backup is broken, even if
all the other targets are fine.

- creates a separate folder for each incremental backup, which contains
only the data backed up at this time. TimeMachine creates hard links in
every backup-folder, so if you open a folder, you have access to all the
files at this timestamp.

-- there is no build-in restore tool. And if I read the comments right:
There won't be one in the future.
So if I am searching for a certain file to restore, i have to search it
manually in a lot of folders on a lot of targets...

So this programm gave a good first impression, but failed later.
It may work for a "geek", but not for a simple user...

Ciao

dirk

BTW: This is almost the same behavior as NovaBackup does - except for
the restore part.

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#673

Am Tue, 14 Mar 2017 09:56:33 +0100 schrieb Dirk Wagner:

> - does not create a full backup on a new target, but only on the target
> connected at the very first time the job was performed.
> So if this target-media gets corrupted, the backup is broken, even if
> all the other targets are fine.

You can run a full every week.

> - creates a separate folder for each incremental backup, which contains
> only the data backed up at this time. TimeMachine creates hard links in
> every backup-folder, so if you open a folder, you have access to all the
> files at this timestamp.

Dont create a separate folder, use always the same or use differential 
backups.
 
> -- there is no build-in restore tool. And if I read the comments right:
> There won't be one in the future.
> So if I am searching for a certain file to restore, i have to search it
> manually in a lot of folders on a lot of targets...

If you use always the same folder its all there....

I use full and differntial backups and it cleans up every 2 month.


rsync style like back in time:

http://www.lupinho.net/hardlinkbackup/

 

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#674

Richard Lechner <r.lechner@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> You can run a full every week.
> 

So I would need to jobs: One running the incementals every hour and one
with running the fulls every week?


> > - creates a separate folder for each incremental backup, which contains
> > only the data backed up at this time. TimeMachine creates hard links in
> > every backup-folder, so if you open a folder, you have access to all the
> > files at this timestamp.
> 
> Dont create a separate folder, use always the same or use differential
> backups.

But then, I will only have ONE Version (the latest) of files which are
modified since the last full?


> rsync style like back in time:
> 
> http://www.lupinho.net/hardlinkbackup/

Will take a look at this one...

Ciao

dirk

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#675

Am Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:06:03 +0100 schrieb Dirk Wagner:

>> You can run a full every week.
>> 
>> 
> So I would need to jobs: One running the incementals every hour and one
> with running the fulls every week?

No.
 
>> Dont create a separate folder, use always the same or use differential
>> backups.
> 
> But then, I will only have ONE Version (the latest) of files which are
> modified since the last full?

You mention you use more than 1 disc?
 
>> rsync style like back in time:
>> 
>> http://www.lupinho.net/hardlinkbackup/
> 
> Will take a look at this one...

Is more like you want i think.

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#676

Richard Lechner <r.lechner@gmx.net> wrote:

> > But then, I will only have ONE Version (the latest) of files which are
> > modified since the last full?
> 
> You mention you use more than 1 disc?

Yes:
<1n2ujgf.e6tw8a1cjxta8N%usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de>

>- work on more than one backup target (e.g. 3 rotating USB-HDDs)

ciao

dirk

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#677

I used to use Retrospect for Windows. It was very good, I did many
bare metal restores with this product. I don't know if it is still
good. The company hosts forums which were, back in the day, a good
source of info about software defects.

Retrospect calls its TimeMachine-like feature "progressive backup" I
think.
-- 
David Arnstein                       (00)
arnstein+usenet@pobox.com          {{   }}
                                     ^^

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#678

Am Sat, 25 Mar 2017 00:12:35 +0000 schrieb David Arnstein:

> I used to use Retrospect for Windows. It was very good, I did many bare
> metal restores with this product. I don't know if it is still good. The
> company hosts forums which were, back in the day, a good source of info
> about software defects.
> 
> Retrospect calls its TimeMachine-like feature "progressive backup" I
> think.

Retrospect on OSX Server - it's a nightmare!
Hanging jobs for weeks, wrong days, broken databases, asf....

Never see a broken software like this pice of sh...!

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#679

David Arnstein <arnstein+usenet@pobox.com> wrote:

> I used to use Retrospect for Windows. It was very good, I did many
> bare metal restores with this product. I don't know if it is still
> good. The company hosts forums which were, back in the day, a good
> source of info about software defects.
> 
> Retrospect calls its TimeMachine-like feature "progressive backup" I
> think.

I used Retrospect for Windows and for Mac a decade or more ago for
backing up my pre timemachine Mac OS and my Windows PC on a DAT drive
but I never tried backing up to HDD.

I will get the demo and give it a try, since I am not fully sattisfied
with the other software mentioned...

Ciao

dirk

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#682

Per Dirk Wagner:
>I used Retrospect for Windows and for Mac a decade or more ago for
>backing up my pre timemachine Mac OS and my Windows PC on a DAT drive
>but I never tried backing up to HDD.
>
>I will get the demo and give it a try, since I am not fully sattisfied
>with the other software mentioned...

How about reporting back?

I too used it on my Macs and, early after the port to Windows used the
Windows version.   What I liked the most was one-stop shopping for
backed-up file: it would show all versions of that file in a single
list.

Then they rewrote it - losing that killer feature and other wise
degrading the application.

Maybe they have regained their senses by now....
-- 
Pete Cresswell

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#685

Dirk Wagner <usenet.NOSPAM@diwasoft.de> wrote:

> I will get the demo and give it a try, since I am not fully sattisfied
> with the other software mentioned...

The backup seems to be working as I it shound - even on multiple targets
if they are defined in advance.

But restoring is terrible. It's the same concept they use 15 years ago.
No way to see the different versions of a file...

Ciao

dirk

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