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Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin?

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First post2016-10-14 07:49 -0400
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  Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-14 07:49 -0400
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-14 07:04 -0500
      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-10-14 10:14 -0400
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-14 09:43 -0500
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-14 09:54 -0500
      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 02:47 -0700
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 05:40 -0500
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-15 08:20 -0500
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-15 09:37 -0400
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2016-10-15 08:50 -0500
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-15 11:01 -0400
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2016-10-15 12:11 -0500
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 12:19 -0500
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-15 15:57 -0400
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-15 16:09 -0400
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-15 16:38 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 18:42 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2016-10-15 20:47 -0500
                        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-16 01:40 -0400
                          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 23:23 -0700
                            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 03:10 -0700
                              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 05:36 -0500
                              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 12:33 +0000
                                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-16 08:43 -0500
                                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-16 07:33 -0700
                                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Joe Bruno <ajtandy114@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 09:32 -0700
                                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-17 15:25 +0000
                          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 03:10 -0700
                            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 05:35 -0500
                            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-16 06:41 -0400
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 15:25 -0500
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-15 16:36 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 19:17 -0500
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 17:31 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 14:33 -0500
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:19 -0700
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-15 15:22 -0700
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-16 17:31 +0000
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-16 11:15 -0700
                        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-17 15:22 +0000
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:29 +0000
            Bob Flunked Biology Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-15 08:36 -0700
              Re: Bob Flunked Biology default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-10-15 11:38 -0400
            Silly Stuff Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-10-15 09:20 -0700
              Re: Silly Stuff Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 11:38 -0500
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-15 13:42 -0500
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 08:53 -0500
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 09:09 -0700
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2016-10-15 12:22 -0400
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 10:28 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2016-10-15 15:35 -0400
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:33 -0700
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2016-10-15 12:13 -0500
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 10:43 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 14:49 -0500
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 14:54 -0500
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-15 16:30 -0500
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 18:55 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 19:21 -0500
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 19:20 -0500
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 17:37 -0700
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-17 07:24 -0500
                        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-17 07:33 -0500
                        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2016-10-17 08:23 -0500
                          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-17 08:46 -0500
                            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-17 15:32 +0000
                            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-17 11:48 -0500
                          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-17 09:08 -0500
                          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-17 10:10 -0700
                            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-17 12:14 -0500
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-16 01:07 -0700
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-16 17:41 +0000
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-16 12:51 -0500
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? harry k <turnkey@q.com> - 2016-10-16 11:16 -0700
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-16 15:27 -0500
                        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-16 15:39 -0500
                          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? quarke.e2@gmail.com - 2016-10-16 13:43 -0700
                            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-16 19:34 -0400
                              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-16 16:39 -0700
                                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-16 19:51 -0400
                                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-16 16:52 -0700
                                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob <null@null.null> - 2016-10-16 20:00 -0400
                                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-16 17:08 -0700
                              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Joe Bruno <ajtandy114@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 12:39 -0700
                                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 22:11 +0000
                        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-10-17 23:59 +0000
                          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-20 10:23 -0700
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:30 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-15 15:33 -0700
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 17:45 -0700
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-16 12:28 -0700
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-17 15:45 +0000
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 17:35 -0700
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 17:54 -0700
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 23:53 -0500
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-15 13:44 -0500
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 17:40 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 19:58 -0700
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 03:15 -0700
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 05:31 -0500
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 00:14 -0500
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-16 11:38 -0500
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Joe Bruno <ajtandy114@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 10:09 -0700
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-16 15:24 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-16 13:27 -0700
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Joe Bruno <ajtandy114@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 10:21 -0700
                    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-16 15:25 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-16 15:43 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 20:45 -0700
                        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 22:55 -0500
                      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-10-17 02:13 -0700
                  Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 20:45 -0700
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? harry k <turnkey@q.com> - 2016-10-15 10:47 -0700
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 13:10 -0500
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:00 -0700
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? t2judgment@gmail.com - 2016-10-15 15:02 -0700
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 17:40 -0700
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 03:16 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 05:30 -0500
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 16:06 -0700
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-14 09:09 -0500
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-10-14 08:57 -0700
      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 09:09 -0700
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 14:58 -0500
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:24 -0700
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-15 17:35 -0700
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 18:00 -0700
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 03:13 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 05:33 -0500
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 18:42 -0700
              Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2016-10-16 03:12 -0700
                Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 05:34 -0500
            Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-16 00:02 -0500
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 13:25 +0000
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Africa-Has-No-Boss <africahasnomasters@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 11:10 -0700
      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 17:03 -0700
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 14:52 -0700
      Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2016-10-15 16:56 -0500
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-15 17:25 -0500
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> - 2016-10-15 18:56 -0500
        Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 08:48 +0000
          Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-10-16 08:46 -0500
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 19:51 -0700
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? Joe Bruno <ajtandy114@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 04:38 -0700
    Re: Does Biology Make Sense Without Darwin? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-10-16 15:45 -0500

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#2182173

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-10-15 17:37 -0700
Message-ID<e478ffed-b595-4331-b077-9fe4df944a2d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2182109
On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-7, Gordon wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
> >news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 
> >
> >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
> <snip>     
> >        
> >       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
> > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
> > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
> > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
> > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
> > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
> > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
> > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
> > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. 
> > 
> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like
> to understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea
> that the multiverse just popped into existence with no form of
> intelligence involved. 

> 
Nobody said it just popped into existence.  Lie number 1.
You have not given any evidence that an intelligence that could have "created" the universe actually exists.

> And, while on this topic, how do these people regard the idea that
> this cosmic intelligence might exist as in a structure such as quantum
> entangled sub-atomic particles that function somewhat like the
> synapses of our brain? Such an array of quantum entangled particles
> could communicate across the entire multiverse, instantly, and could
> have a very precise control of all that is going on, or ever has
> happened.   Gordon

Might exist, but no evidence for such existence exists.

Still waiting on any evidence of your imaginary creator or any of the other nonsense you don't seem to understand.

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#2182887

FromGordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
Date2016-10-17 07:24 -0500
Message-ID<72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com>
In reply to#2182173
On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 17:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
<youngblood2949@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-7, Gordon wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
>> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
>> >news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 
>> >
>> >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> >> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
>> <snip>     
>> >        
>> >       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
>> > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
>> > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
>> > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
>> > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
>> > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
>> > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
>> > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
>> > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. 
>> > 
>> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like
>> to understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea
>> that the multiverse just popped into existence with no form of
>> intelligence involved. 
>
>> 
>Nobody said it just popped into existence.  Lie number 1.
>
Please explain your assessment as to how the universe came into
existence.   Gordon
>
>You have not given any evidence that an intelligence that could have "created" the universe actually exists.
>
Nor has anyone given any evidence that the universe is, or is not of
infinite size, but many are studying this with intense determination
to figure it out. Why should we not have a similar level of interest
in figuring out whether or not God exists?  Gordon
>
>> And, while on this topic, how do these people regard the idea that
>> this cosmic intelligence might exist as in a structure such as quantum
>> entangled sub-atomic particles that function somewhat like the
>> synapses of our brain? Such an array of quantum entangled particles
>> could communicate across the entire multiverse, instantly, and could
>> have a very precise control of all that is going on, or ever has
>> happened.   Gordon
>
>Might exist, but no evidence for such existence exists.
>
>Still waiting on any evidence of your imaginary creator or any of the other nonsense you don't seem to understand.

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#2182890

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-10-17 07:33 -0500
Message-ID<qtg90chhbc3rja10db1d4nv10n63g9ubbs@4ax.com>
In reply to#2182887
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 07:24:39 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 17:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
><youngblood2949@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-7, Gordon wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
>>> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
>>> >news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 
>>> >
>>> >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>> >> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
>>> <snip>     
>>> >        
>>> >       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
>>> > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
>>> > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
>>> > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
>>> > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
>>> > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
>>> > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
>>> > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
>>> > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. 
>>> > 
>>> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like
>>> to understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea
>>> that the multiverse just popped into existence with no form of
>>> intelligence involved. 
>>
>>> 
>>Nobody said it just popped into existence.  Lie number 1.
>>
>Please explain your assessment as to how the universe came into
>existence.   Gordon

Asked and answered many times. you dishonest little shit.

>>You have not given any evidence that an intelligence that could have 
>>"created" the universe actually exists.

Which you have to do before there is anything to study or investigate,
imbecile.

Why do you keep pretending this hasn't been explained over and over
again?

It is YOUR responsibility to show that this is any more worthy of
study than an infinite number of equally unjustified propositions/

Which has also been explained to you repeatedly.

>Nor has anyone given any evidence that the universe is, or is not of
>infinite size, but many are studying this with intense determination
>to figure it out. Why should we not have a similar level of interest
>in figuring out whether or not God exists?  Gordon

WHAT FUCKING GOD, in the real world outside your religion, imbecile?

>>> And, while on this topic, how do these people regard the idea that
>>> this cosmic intelligence might exist as in a structure such as quantum
>>> entangled sub-atomic particles that function somewhat like the
>>> synapses of our brain? Such an array of quantum entangled particles
>>> could communicate across the entire multiverse, instantly, and could
>>> have a very precise control of all that is going on, or ever has
>>> happened.   Gordon
Idiot.

And if pigs had wings....

>>Might exist, but no evidence for such existence exists.

Nor even any reason to suggest it.

>>Still waiting on any evidence of your imaginary creator or any of 
>>the other nonsense you don't seem to understand.

Well, moron?

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#2182908

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net>
Date2016-10-17 08:23 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6A453F5B1A9Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131>
In reply to#2182887
Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote in
news:72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com: 


>>
> Please explain your assessment as to how the universe came into
> existence.   Gordon
>>


   Please give your assessment of how your deity
came into existence. 






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#2182913

FromGordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
Date2016-10-17 08:46 -0500
Message-ID<qvk90c14b6qvc6htdrtn4uefjgrdecrn4u@4ax.com>
In reply to#2182908
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:23:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizont.net> wrote:

>Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote in
>news:72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com: 
>
>
>>>
>> Please explain your assessment as to how the universe came into
>> existence.   Gordon
>>>
>
>
>   Please give your assessment of how your deity
>came into existence. 
>
To understand how God came into existence we have to transpose our
thinking to God's time scale, eternity. God has the capability to move
back and forth as needed along His time scale and it seems that He may
have created Himself, using this temporal process. 

My assessment is that God is a form of cosmic consciousness based upon
something like quantum entanglements between subatomic particles.
These quantum entanglements function like the synapses in our brain,
but are of infinite range and capabilities. These quantum
entanglements are not restricted to the speed of light, but
communicate instantaneously throughout the multiverse.

But, we have no information or superficial understanding as to how
this whole process of creation began...God or no God. What kicked off
the Big Bang? Where-how did the mass-energy that became the universe
originate. What regulated the very intricate process of life creation.
There are MANY other such questions that remain unanswered and perhaps
unanswerable, but this is no reason for not trying to further
understand things in this realm.   Gordon

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#2182963

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-10-17 15:32 +0000
Message-ID<nu2qv2$j60$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2182913
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:46:36 -0500, Gordon wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:23:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <noemail@verizont.net> wrote:
> 
>>Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote in
>>news:72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Please explain your assessment as to how the universe came into
>>> existence.   Gordon
>>
>>   Please give your assessment of how your deity
>>came into existence.
>>
> To understand how God came into existence we have to transpose our
> thinking to God's time scale, eternity. God has the capability to move
> back and forth as needed along His time scale and it seems that He may
> have created Himself, using this temporal process.

Unevidenced, baseless, nonsense excuse.
You need to show evidence that your supposed god exists _before_ you can 
claim it has a different time scale.

<snip more nonsense>

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2182979

From"W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-17 11:48 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6A47819ED0A8m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>
In reply to#2182913
Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote in 
news:qvk90c14b6qvc6htdrtn4uefjgrdecrn4u@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:23:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <noemail@verizont.net> wrote:
> 
>>Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote in
>>news:72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com: 
>>
>>> Please explain your assessment as to how the universe came into
>>> existence.   Gordon
>>>>
>>   Please give your assessment of how your deity
>>came into existence. 
>>
> To understand how God came into existence we have to transpose our
> thinking to God's time scale, eternity. God has the capability to move
> back and forth as needed along His time scale and it seems that He may
> have created Himself, using this temporal process. 
> 
> My assessment is that God is a form of cosmic consciousness based upon
> something like quantum entanglements between subatomic particles.
> These quantum entanglements function like the synapses in our brain,
> but are of infinite range and capabilities. These quantum
> entanglements are not restricted to the speed of light, but
> communicate instantaneously throughout the multiverse.
> 
> But, we have no information or superficial understanding as to how
> this whole process of creation began...God or no God. What kicked off
> the Big Bang? Where-how did the mass-energy that became the universe
> originate. What regulated the very intricate process of life creation.
> There are MANY other such questions that remain unanswered and perhaps
> unanswerable, but this is no reason for not trying to further
> understand things in this realm.   Gordon

Based on what you're saying, your "Diety" could have little or no 
interest in us, could be infinitly indifferent, or even infinitly evil, 
or even have the thought processes of a dog.  Yet you presume to know 
what your "God" thinks or wants.  It makes no sense.  The only logical 
conclusion is that there is no "God" and never will be.  

      <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ibEaIPtMk> 
      
           <http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>
           
      <http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>
      
            <http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

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#2182923

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-10-17 09:08 -0500
Message-ID<7fm90ct28jjtomqj9kjj71tibsqff4shtr@4ax.com>
In reply to#2182908
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 08:23:56 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@verizont.net> wrote:

>Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote in
>news:72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com: 
>
>
>>>
>> Please explain your assessment as to how the universe came into
>> existence.   Gordon
>
>   Please give your assessment of how your deity
>came into existence. 

Is the moron really this stupid, or just plain dishonest?

He has never once taken any notice of the  fact that atheists aren't
even closet Christians, so he keeps coming up with this mindless
stupidity.

No matter how often it has been explained to him over a period of many
years.

He has also been given several scenarios proposed by astrophysicists
and cosmologists, many times, which break no known physical laws.

He also knows that there is no reason to choose any one of these over
the others.

The obvious conclusion is that he is seriously mentally ill.

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#2182999

From"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net>
Date2016-10-17 10:10 -0700
Message-ID<UqCdnf45gOZ7mJjFnZ2dnUU7-aXNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#2182908
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsA6A453F5B1A9Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131...
> Gordon wrote in news:72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com:
>
>
>> Please explain your assessment as to how the
>> universe came into existence.   Gordon

Matter was created by the energy from a super
*omnipotent* entity, our Creator..

>  Please give your assessment of how your
>  deity came into existence.

You may ask Him yourself when you are
called to stand before Him to answer for
the life He has given to you in this realm.

"For we must all appear before the judgment
 seat of Christ, that every one may receive the
 things done in his body, according to what
 he hath done, whether it be good or evil."
                  ~ 2 Corinthians 5:10

Now is the time for you to prepare to meet
Him in peace. 

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#2183005

From"W.T.S., cc4-The Lamp of Golden Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net>
Date2016-10-17 12:14 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA6A47C92A3307m14mearthlinknet@216.168.4.170>
In reply to#2182999
"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> wrote in
news:UqCdnf45gOZ7mJjFnZ2dnUU7-aXNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 

> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsA6A453F5B1A9Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
>> Gordon wrote in news:72g90c9mph29s6nasdf2l3121p00aeemgl@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Please explain your assessment as to how the
>>> universe came into existence.   Gordon
> 
> Matter was created by the energy from a super
> *omnipotent* entity, our Creator..
> 
>>  Please give your assessment of how your
>>  deity came into existence.
> 
> You may ask Him yourself when you are
> called to stand before Him to answer for
> the life He has given to you in this realm.
> 
> "For we must all appear before the judgment
>  seat of Christ, that every one may receive the
>  things done in his body, according to what
>  he hath done, whether it be good or evil."
>                   ~ 2 Corinthians 5:10
> 
> Now is the time for you to prepare to meet
> Him in peace. 
Bull shit.  Here's a dose of truth for you:  '

      <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ibEaIPtMk> 
      
           <http://tinyurl.com/hy7xymb>
           
      <http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Falldidit#Falldidit>
      
            <http://tinyurl.com/z4z77ra>

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#2182281

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2016-10-16 01:07 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-3203E7.01072916102016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2182109
In article <5i750cdo568tun5jljll9d7lov1qs1ac37@4ax.com>,
 Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
> >news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 
> >
> >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
> <snip>     
> >        
> >       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
> > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
> > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
> > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
> > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
> > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
> > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
> > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
> > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. 
> > 
> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like
> to understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea
> that the multiverse just popped into existence with no form of
> intelligence involved. 

Simple. We're neither stupid nor insane.

-- 

JD

"It's not even that the man lies; it's more like he 
rejects the idea that the point of language is to 
describe reality."--Desi Lydic, TDS on Trump

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#2182456

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-10-16 17:41 +0000
Message-ID<nu0e3n$sgl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2182109
On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 16:30:30 -0500, Gordon wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
>>news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>
>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131...
> <snip>
>>        
>>       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
>> simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
>> false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
>> What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
>> commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
>> a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
>> granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
>> calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
>> enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.
>> 
> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like to
> understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea that the
> multiverse just popped into existence with no form of intelligence
> involved.

What multiverse, liar?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2182457

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-10-16 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<17f70cdgn33o85hvh11mahfo9df7u2aaj2@4ax.com>
In reply to#2182456
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:41:11 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 16:30:30 -0500, Gordon wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
>> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
>>>news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131...
>> <snip>
>>>        
>>>       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
>>> simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
>>> false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
>>> What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
>>> commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
>>> a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
>>> granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
>>> calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
>>> enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould.
>>> 
>> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like to
>> understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea that the
>> multiverse just popped into existence with no form of intelligence
>> involved.
>
>What multiverse, liar?

The proven serial liar knows perfectly well that the multiverse is a
speculation by astrophysicists and cosmologists, and nothing to do
with either atheism or agnosticism.

I oldie to know why he keeps posting these unsolicited lies to
atheists.

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#2182473

Fromharry k <turnkey@q.com>
Date2016-10-16 11:16 -0700
Message-ID<74062cf3-a31f-4aa4-b52e-ea749b726e50@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2182109
On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-7, Gordon wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
> >news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 
> >
> >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
> <snip>     
> >        
> >       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
> > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
> > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
> > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
> > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
> > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
> > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
> > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
> > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. 
> > 
> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like
> to understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea
> that the multiverse just popped into existence with no form of
> intelligence involved. 
> 
> And, while on this topic, how do these people regard the idea that
> this cosmic intelligence might exist as in a structure such as quantum
> entangled sub-atomic particles that function somewhat like the
> synapses of our brain? Such an array of quantum entangled particles
> could communicate across the entire multiverse, instantly, and could
> have a very precise control of all that is going on, or ever has
> happened.   Gordon

But you swallow whole and lap up the leakage the idea that a god just popped into existence...

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#2182549

FromGordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
Date2016-10-16 15:27 -0500
Message-ID<kco70cp4ji0v5jb26mmgs32k2ggele0n64@4ax.com>
In reply to#2182473
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey@q.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-7, Gordon wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
>> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
>> >news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 
>> >
>> >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> >> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
>> <snip>     
>> >        
>> >       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
>> > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
>> > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
>> > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
>> > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
>> > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
>> > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
>> > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
>> > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. 
>> > 
>> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like
>> to understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea
>> that the multiverse just popped into existence with no form of
>> intelligence involved. 
>> 
>> And, while on this topic, how do these people regard the idea that
>> this cosmic intelligence might exist as in a structure such as quantum
>> entangled sub-atomic particles that function somewhat like the
>> synapses of our brain? Such an array of quantum entangled particles
>> could communicate across the entire multiverse, instantly, and could
>> have a very precise control of all that is going on, or ever has
>> happened.   Gordon
>
>But you swallow whole and lap up the leakage the idea that a god just popped into existence...
>
No, not at all! I acknowledge that we have no understanding as to how
God came into existence, but perhaps if we understood the eternity
time scale and how God is able to be anywhere along that time
scale...move back and forth if needed...maybe it was God who created
Himself, and is still, by our time scale, refining and perfecting
Himself and all that He created. 

This is no harder to accept than is the idea that the infinite
energy/mass that just popped into existence to form this universe was
simply a random event.   Gordon

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#2182556

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-10-16 15:39 -0500
Message-ID<kpo70c9dbhcofpdqep4ggduiu9448clv07@4ax.com>
In reply to#2182549
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 15:27:50 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT), harry k <turnkey@q.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 2:30:33 PM UTC-7, Gordon wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Oct 2016 14:54:48 -0500, "W.T.S., grU-The Lamp of Golden
>>> Truth!*" <m14m@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >"Andrew" <andrew.86remov@usa.net> wrote in
>>> >news:MN2dnSrVw-FU95_FnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@earthlink.com: 
>>> >
>>> >> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>> >> news:XnsA6A27B185400Bnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131... 
>>> <snip>     
>>> >        
>>> >       "Creation science" has not entered the curriculum for a reason so
>>> > simple and so basic that we often forget to mention it: because it is
>>> > false, and because good teachers understand exactly why it is false.
>>> > What could be more destructive of that most fragile yet most precious
>>> > commodity in our entire intellectual heritage -- good teaching -- than
>>> > a bill forcing honourable teachers to sully their sacred trust by
>>> > granting equal treatment to a doctrine not only known to be false, but
>>> > calculated to undermine any general understanding of science as an
>>> > enterprise? - Stephen Jay Gould. 
>>> > 
>>> I'm not trying to prove anything or stir up a debate but I would like
>>> to understand how atheists and agnostics manage to accept the idea
>>> that the multiverse just popped into existence with no form of
>>> intelligence involved. 
>>> 
>>> And, while on this topic, how do these people regard the idea that
>>> this cosmic intelligence might exist as in a structure such as quantum
>>> entangled sub-atomic particles that function somewhat like the
>>> synapses of our brain? Such an array of quantum entangled particles
>>> could communicate across the entire multiverse, instantly, and could
>>> have a very precise control of all that is going on, or ever has
>>> happened.   Gordon
>>
>>But you swallow whole and lap up the leakage the idea that a god 
>>just popped into existence...
>>
>No, not at all! I acknowledge that we have no understanding as to how
>God came into existence, 

WHAT FUCKING GOD, imbecile?

Are you really so stupid that you don't realise he is merely applying
your ridiculous caricature to your pretend friend?

>                                         but perhaps if we understood the eternity
>time scale and how God is able to be anywhere along that time
>scale...move back and forth if needed...maybe it was God who created
>Himself, and is still, by our time scale, refining and perfecting
>Himself and all that He created. 

Idiot.

>This is no harder to accept than is the idea that the infinite
>energy/mass that just popped into existence to form this universe was
>simply a random event.   

Liar. That is a strawman and caricature of one of the many
speculations by astrophysicists, which break no known laws of physics.

All of which are parsimonious and nobody "believes" any one of them
over the others because there's no reason to do so.

Unlike your un-necessary, unevidenced and hypothetical god which is
packed with a whole slew of unjustified attributes.

But provide as much evidence for your pretend friend ah there is for
the universe, and apart from the caricature, you might have had a
point.

>Gordon

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#2182558

Fromquarke.e2@gmail.com
Date2016-10-16 13:43 -0700
Message-ID<dd20da67-ede4-4865-a7ea-0b996a71da1c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2182556
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 1:39:48 PM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:

> WHAT FUCKING GOD, imbecile?


The deity of my religion whose armies are dropping nukes on your heads, FUCKHEADED IDIOT MORON!

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#2182636

FromBob <null@null.null>
Date2016-10-16 19:34 -0400
Message-ID<nu12pv$1t5f$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2182558
On 10/16/2016 4:43 PM, quarke.e2@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 1:39:48 PM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>
>> WHAT FUCKING GOD, imbecile?
>
>
> The deity of my religion whose armies are dropping nukes on your heads, FUCKHEADED IDIOT MORON!
>

Well, now we know the name of another one of Chrissie's sockpuppets.

If he had waited 10 or 15 minutes before responding there might have
been some implausibility involved here.

But not anymore.


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#2182640

Fromt2judgment@gmail.com
Date2016-10-16 16:39 -0700
Message-ID<7b93417c-e1f6-4d4d-84d1-983418f2950e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2182636
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 4:34:28 PM UTC-7, Bob wrote:
> On 10/16/2016 4:43 PM, quarke.e2@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 1:39:48 PM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> >
> >> WHAT FUCKING GOD, imbecile?
> >
> >
> > The deity of my religion whose armies are dropping nukes on your heads, FUCKHEADED IDIOT MORON!
> >
> 
> Well, now we know the name of another one of Chrissie's sockpuppets.


You mean we know you are full of shit in what you type here.

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#2182654

FromBob <null@null.null>
Date2016-10-16 19:51 -0400
Message-ID<nu13pu$1ugd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2182640
On 10/16/2016 7:39 PM, t2judgment@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 4:34:28 PM UTC-7, Bob wrote:
>> On 10/16/2016 4:43 PM, quarke.e2@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 1:39:48 PM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> WHAT FUCKING GOD, imbecile?
>>>
>>>
>>> The deity of my religion whose armies are dropping nukes on your heads, FUCKHEADED IDIOT MORON!
>>>
>>
>> Well, now we know the name of another one of Chrissie's sockpuppets.
>
>
> You mean we know you are full of shit in what you type here.
>

Make that two names.

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