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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:31 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:53 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 19:01 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-06-03 22:05 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-06-05 06:58 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 05:48 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:26 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-06-07 11:34 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:41 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 09:23 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:42 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:24 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:05 +0200
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-04 12:46 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:11 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:22 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:02 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-04 12:22 +0100
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-06-04 17:46 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-05 12:16 +0100
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 06:03 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-05 10:18 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:10 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-05 22:37 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:26 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 23:05 +0000
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:26 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:03 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 13:06 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:27 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 11:02 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:28 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 13:43 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:43 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:22 -0700

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#1915934 — Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

duke wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 17:58:26 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> God is all love, the fuhrer was a mass murderer.
>>
>> We're talking about the same God that killed all the little children and
>> puppies on Earth with a flood.
>
> How many more than zero was that?

Probably more than the six million that an amateur mass-murderer like 
Adolph managed.

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#1916261

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:31:45 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jun 2015 17:58:26 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> God is all love, the fuhrer was a mass murderer.
>>>
>>> We're talking about the same God that killed all the little children and
>>> puppies on Earth with a flood.
>>
>> How many more than zero was that?
>
>Probably more than the six million that an amateur mass-murderer like 
>Adolph managed.

Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.  Your ignorance of scripture is
unsupportable.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#1916618

duke wrote:
> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.

2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the 
days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.

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#1916620

On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
> duke wrote:
>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>
> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.

	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He 
killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in 
the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.



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                        /^\
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#1917474

On 2015-06-04, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
>> duke wrote:
>>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>
>> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
>> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>
> 	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He 
> killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in 
> the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.

Kings I 2:23 And [Elijah] went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going
   up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked
   him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the
   name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood,
   and tare forty and two children of them.

Dave, the personal touch
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://gatekeeper.vic.com/~dbd/	-net.legends/Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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#1917506

David DeLaney wrote:
> Kings I 2:23 And [Elijah] went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going
>     up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked
>     him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
>
> 2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the
>     name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood,
>     and tare forty and two children of them.

The fellows who wrote the Bible were all in the Hair Club for Men and 
they much didn't like rugrats, especially ones that called 'em baldy, so 
this was an episode of fantasy revenge, sort of like an ancient "Amazing 
Hulk" comic book.

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#1919365

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:05:14 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

>On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
>> duke wrote:
>>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>
>> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
>> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>
>	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He 
>killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in 
>the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.

How many people did God "kill" in the flood?  People were not killed in the
plagues of Egypt.  And S&G was taken out because they were mostly queers.  In
fact, only a very few were innocent.  Latest estimates is 10 or less.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1919380

On 6/7/15 11:26 AM, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:05:14 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>>
>>> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
>>> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>>
>> 	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He
>> killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in
>> the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.
>
> How many people did God "kill" in the flood?

	According to the Book, everyone except those on the Ark. What was the 
population of the world at the time? That many minus Noah's family. Even 
if you assume the population of the world was very low, that's a lotta 
deaths. And God explicitly was responsible, so he killed 'em all.

> People were not killed in the
> plagues of Egypt.


	"Starvation throughout all the land of Egypt". Starvation kills. Even 
if most people didn't die, some undoubtedly did.

>  And S&G was taken out because they were mostly queers.  In
> fact, only a very few were innocent.

	You said "God is all love and never hurt anyone."

	All it takes is one injury or death to prove that statement wrong, and 
you've just agreed that the total's more than one.

	You were wrong.


-- 
                      Sea Wasp
                        /^\
                        ;;;	
Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com  Blog: 
http://seawasp.livejournal.com

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#1919724

On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 11:34:38 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
<seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:

>On 6/7/15 11:26 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:05:14 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>> <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
>>>> duke wrote:
>>>>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>>>
>>>> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
>>>> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>>>
>>> 	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He
>>> killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in
>>> the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.
>>
>> How many people did God "kill" in the flood?
>
>	According to the Book, everyone except those on the Ark. What was the 
>population of the world at the time?

Personally I have no idea.

> That many minus Noah's family. Even 
>if you assume the population of the world was very low, that's a lotta 
>deaths. And God explicitly was responsible, so he killed 'em all.

I can't find a record of any being killed.

>> People were not killed in the
>> plagues of Egypt.

>	"Starvation throughout all the land of Egypt". Starvation kills. Even 
>if most people didn't die, some undoubtedly did.

The plagues were natural events repeated quite often.

>>  And S&G was taken out because they were mostly queers.  In
>> fact, only a very few were innocent.

>	You said "God is all love and never hurt anyone."
>	All it takes is one injury or death to prove that statement wrong, and 
>you've just agreed that the total's more than one.

The volcanoes did it.

>	You were wrong.

Not even 10 were worthy of saving the two towns.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1919460

duke wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:05:14 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
> <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com>  wrote:
>
>> >On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
>>> >>duke wrote:
>>>> >>>Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>> >>
>>> >>2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
>>> >>days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>> >
>> >	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He
>> >killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in
>> >the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.
> How many people did God "kill" in the flood?  People were not killed in the
> plagues of Egypt.  And S&G was taken out because they were mostly queers.

Oh, I guess they don't count then.

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#1919726

On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:23:07 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:05:14 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>> <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> >On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
>>>> >>duke wrote:
>>>>> >>>Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
>>>> >>days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>>> >
>>> >	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He
>>> >killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in
>>> >the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.
>> How many people did God "kill" in the flood?  People were not killed in the
>> plagues of Egypt.  And S&G was taken out because they were mostly queers.
>
>Oh, I guess they don't count then.

3000 people were murdered on 911.

the dukester, American-American

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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1919790

duke wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 09:23:07 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >duke wrote:
>>> >>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 22:05:14 -0400, "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)"
>>> >><seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com>   wrote:
>>> >>
>>>>> >>> >On 6/3/15 10:01 PM, talishi wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>> >>duke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>>> >>2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the
>>>>>>> >>>> >>days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >	And, um... the Flood? The Plagues of Egypt? Sodom and Gommorah? He
>>>>> >>> >killed people by the metric TON whenever he was in the mood, which, in
>>>>> >>> >the Old Testament, was fairly frequently.
>>> >>How many people did God "kill" in the flood?  People were not killed in the
>>> >>plagues of Egypt.  And S&G was taken out because they were mostly queers.
>> >
>> >Oh, I guess they don't count then.
> 3000 people were murdered on 911.

Osama bin Laden was an amateur.

Exodus 13:15 "And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, 
that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt..."

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#1919598

"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:bdo8nahats0affh37et5pdpkmlb7tcmi7e@4ax.com...

(snip)

> ... And S&G was taken out because they were mostly queers. ...

Must haven been so. Why else would they name the city after 'sodomising'!


> ... In
> fact, only a very few were innocent.  Latest estimates is 10 or less.

Why would the estimates change? New evidence? Missing pages from the Bible 
turning up? Isn't this just and another ploy to redefine God as less grumpy. 
'Theism with a friendly face' kind of thing?


-- 
Malte Runz 

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#1916770

"talishi"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkobhk41knn@news3.newsguy.com...
>
> duke wrote:
> > Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>
> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the days 
> of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.

I'm sure it's one of the bits, that we're not supposed to take literaly. 
Maybe God just, out of eternal and unlimited love, fulfilled Jellybean's 
expressed wish to be killed.

-- 
Malte Runz 

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#1917835

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:46:09 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"talishi"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkobhk41knn@news3.newsguy.com...
>>
>> duke wrote:
>> > Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>
>> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the days 
>> of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>
>I'm sure it's one of the bits, that we're not supposed to take literaly. 
>Maybe God just, out of eternal and unlimited love, fulfilled Jellybean's 
>expressed wish to be killed.

Or maybe an alligator got him.

the dukester, American-American

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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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On 06/05/2015 02:11 PM, duke wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:46:09 +0200, "Malte Runz"<malte_runz@forgitit.dk>  wrote:
>
>> >"talishi"  skrev i meddelelsennews:mkobhk41knn@news3.newsguy.com...
>>> >>
>>> >>duke wrote:
>>>> >> >Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>> >>
>>> >>2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the days
>>> >>of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>> >
>> >I'm sure it's one of the bits, that we're not supposed to take literaly.
>> >Maybe God just, out of eternal and unlimited love, fulfilled Jellybean's
>> >expressed wish to be killed.
> Or maybe an alligator got him.

So God is an alligator.

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#1918681

On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:22:18 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/05/2015 02:11 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:46:09 +0200, "Malte Runz"<malte_runz@forgitit.dk>  wrote:
>>
>>> >"talishi"  skrev i meddelelsennews:mkobhk41knn@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>duke wrote:
>>>>> >> >Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the days
>>>> >>of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>>> >
>>> >I'm sure it's one of the bits, that we're not supposed to take literaly.
>>> >Maybe God just, out of eternal and unlimited love, fulfilled Jellybean's
>>> >expressed wish to be killed.
>> Or maybe an alligator got him.
>
>So God is an alligator.

NOt that I know of.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1916785

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:01:50 -0700, talishi wrote:

> duke wrote:
>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
> 
> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the 
> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.

That's why I love the bible!

When all is said and done, it is simply the best tool for
hitting god-botherers around the head with....

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#1917075

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:22:18 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:01:50 -0700, talishi wrote:
>
>> duke wrote:
>>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>> 
>> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the 
>> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>
>That's why I love the bible!
>
>When all is said and done, it is simply the best tool for
>hitting god-botherers around the head with....

The really amusing part is that the quoted sentiments always come as
such a surprise to them.

-- 
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BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
The Squeeky Wheel:  http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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#1917450

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:46:49 -0400, Don Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:22:18 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:01:50 -0700, talishi wrote:
>>
>>> duke wrote:
>>>> Actually, God is all love and never hurt anyone.
>>> 
>>> 2 Chronicles 13:20 Neither did Jeroboam recover strength again in the 
>>> days of Abijah: and the LORD struck him, and he died.
>>
>>That's why I love the bible!
>>
>>When all is said and done, it is simply the best tool for
>>hitting god-botherers around the head with....
> 
> The really amusing part is that the quoted sentiments always come as
> such a surprise to them.

Surprise ... and then outrage.
How dare unbelievers know the sacred scripture?
How dare we quote the bible at them?
Don't we know that they have the sole and absolute right to
interpret the revealed word of the lord as they see fit?

What fun...

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