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| Started by | viva padrepio <vivapadrepio@aol.com> |
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| First post | 2016-05-27 13:24 -0700 |
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Air America! viva padrepio <vivapadrepio@aol.com> - 2016-05-27 13:24 -0700
Re: Air America! hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-05-27 19:51 -0700
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-05-27 22:06 -0500
Re: Air America! Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 21:13 -0700
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-03 15:54 +1000
Re: Air America! Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-03 05:16 -0700
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-03 07:32 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-01 05:35 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-01 20:30 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-01 06:38 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-01 20:42 +1000
Re: Air America! hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-01 05:51 -0700
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-01 09:17 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-01 15:39 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-01 18:10 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-01 19:00 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-01 20:05 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-02 10:54 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 01:39 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-02 07:23 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 08:40 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-02 08:44 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 11:05 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-02 14:55 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 16:44 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-02 18:04 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-03 04:50 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-03 07:42 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-03 10:40 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-03 15:37 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-03 17:53 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-04 10:59 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-04 03:49 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-03 20:55 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-04 03:54 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-04 06:53 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-04 09:11 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-04 12:38 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-04 14:31 -0400
Re: Air America! John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2016-06-04 21:41 +0100
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-05 11:56 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-05 04:09 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-05 19:12 +1000
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-03 10:28 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-03 04:55 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-04 10:52 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-04 04:00 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-05 11:54 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-05 04:13 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-01 20:58 -0500
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-02 12:25 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 01:43 -0400
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 01:41 -0400
Re: Air America! Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-02 07:20 -0500
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 08:42 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-02 10:36 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-02 01:48 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-03 10:49 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-03 04:57 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-04 10:44 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-04 04:02 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-05 11:46 +1000
Re: Air America! Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-06-05 04:15 -0400
Re: Air America! "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-05 19:17 +1000
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| From | viva padrepio <vivapadrepio@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-27 13:24 -0700 |
| Subject | Air America! |
| Message-ID | <84cae114-e29b-4870-b99e-ca807510853b@googlegroups.com> |
Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! Thanks Obama! -- www.foxnews.com
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-05-27 19:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2114633 |
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: > Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. > > Thanks Obama! > > -- www.foxnews.com
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-27 22:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA615E13B67B1Enoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #2114827 |
hhyapster@gmail.com wrote in news:8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6
@googlegroups.com:
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote:
>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!!
>
> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical.
Doing the jobs that Americans don't want anyway.
Farmers complain of worker shortages
Oct. 25, 2015
Labor shortages across the U.S. have forced some farmers to
take extreme measures.
California farmers have long relied on immigrants to tend to
their crops, a tradition that for decades has formed part of
the state's cultural identity.
The farm labor movement extends as far back as the early 1960s,
when civil rights activist Cesar Chavez mobilized thousands of
Latino farm workers in California to fight for better working
conditions.
That tradition continues today, with foreign-born workers
accounting for the vast majority of the country's agricultural
laborers. The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that
half are unauthorized immigrants.
Now, this once-reliable source of labor appears to be dwindling,
the result of less migration from Mexico and an aging farm worker
population, among other complex factors. Domestic-born workers
are unwilling to take their place, according to agricultural
experts.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/oct/25/decline-farm-labor-
immigration-reform/
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| From | Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-02 21:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0a9a1739-32ec-491d-bba4-8a2f96584538@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2114838 |
On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote: > hhyapster@gmail.com wrote in news:8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6 > @googlegroups.com: > > > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: > >> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! > > > > Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. > > > > Doing the jobs that Americans don't want anyway. > > > > > Farmers complain of worker shortages > Oct. 25, 2015 > > Labor shortages across the U.S. have forced some farmers to > take extreme measures. > > California farmers have long relied on immigrants to tend to > their crops, a tradition that for decades has formed part of > the state's cultural identity. > > The farm labor movement extends as far back as the early 1960s, > when civil rights activist Cesar Chavez mobilized thousands of > Latino farm workers in California to fight for better working > conditions. > > That tradition continues today, with foreign-born workers > accounting for the vast majority of the country's agricultural > laborers. The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that > half are unauthorized immigrants. > > Now, this once-reliable source of labor appears to be dwindling, > the result of less migration from Mexico and an aging farm worker > population, among other complex factors. Domestic-born workers > are unwilling to take their place, according to agricultural > experts. > > http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/oct/25/decline-farm-labor- > immigration-reform/ There is no reason to use illegal labor to pick US crops. Australia converted to mechanized harvesting years ago with no ill effect that i know of.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-06-03 15:54 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <drckc8FjeupU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2118586 |
On 03/06/2016 14:13, Cloud Hobbit wrote: > > There is no reason to use illegal labor to pick US crops. Australia > converted to mechanized harvesting years ago with no ill effect that > i know of. > Not all crops are amenable to mechanical harvesting. That aside, I would invite you to a taste test. Take a mass-produced and mechanically harvested tomato and compare it to a small-batch heritage variety that was picked by hand. Then repeat the experiment with apples. Notice the difference? That is the price we pay.
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-03 05:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-D46103.05161103062016@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #2118586 |
In article <0a9a1739-32ec-491d-bba4-8a2f96584538@googlegroups.com>, Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote: > > hhyapster@gmail.com wrote in news:8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6 > > @googlegroups.com: > > > > > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: > > >> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! > > > > > > Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. > > > > > > > > Doing the jobs that Americans don't want anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Farmers complain of worker shortages > > Oct. 25, 2015 > > > > Labor shortages across the U.S. have forced some farmers to > > take extreme measures. > > > > California farmers have long relied on immigrants to tend to > > their crops, a tradition that for decades has formed part of > > the state's cultural identity. > > > > The farm labor movement extends as far back as the early 1960s, > > when civil rights activist Cesar Chavez mobilized thousands of > > Latino farm workers in California to fight for better working > > conditions. > > > > That tradition continues today, with foreign-born workers > > accounting for the vast majority of the country's agricultural > > laborers. The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that > > half are unauthorized immigrants. > > > > Now, this once-reliable source of labor appears to be dwindling, > > the result of less migration from Mexico and an aging farm worker > > population, among other complex factors. Domestic-born workers > > are unwilling to take their place, according to agricultural > > experts. > > > > http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/oct/25/decline-farm-labor- > > immigration-reform/ > > There is no reason to use illegal labor to pick US crops. Australia > converted to mechanized harvesting years ago with no ill effect that i know > of. There are still crops for which mechanical harvesting still can't be made to work. Things that ripen at different times. Or things too delicate. -- JD Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a God superior to themselves. Most Gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-03 07:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA61C4CD7FBDA8noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #2118586 |
Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0a9a1739-32ec-491d-bba4-8a2f96584538@googlegroups.com:
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> hhyapster@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6 @googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote:
>> >> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!!
>> >
>> > Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical.
>>
>>
>>
>> Doing the jobs that Americans don't want anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Farmers complain of worker shortages
>> Oct. 25, 2015
>>
>> Labor shortages across the U.S. have forced some farmers to
>> take extreme measures.
>>
>> California farmers have long relied on immigrants to tend to
>> their crops, a tradition that for decades has formed part of
>> the state's cultural identity.
>>
>> The farm labor movement extends as far back as the early 1960s,
>> when civil rights activist Cesar Chavez mobilized thousands of
>> Latino farm workers in California to fight for better working
>> conditions.
>>
>> That tradition continues today, with foreign-born workers
>> accounting for the vast majority of the country's agricultural
>> laborers. The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that
>> half are unauthorized immigrants.
>>
>> Now, this once-reliable source of labor appears to be dwindling,
>> the result of less migration from Mexico and an aging farm worker
>> population, among other complex factors. Domestic-born workers
>> are unwilling to take their place, according to agricultural
>> experts.
>>
>> http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/oct/25/decline-farm-labo
>> r- immigration-reform/
>
> There is no reason to use illegal labor to pick US crops. Australia
> converted to mechanized harvesting years ago with no ill effect that i
> know of.
>
That depends on the crops. If US farmers
could switch to just machines they would have
done so long ago. As it is the "wets" are still
in high demand.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 05:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <j2btkbpvs3puaj2numqinjuf63t046eqh0@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2114827 |
On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in alt.atheism with message-id <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: >> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! > >Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >> >> Thanks Obama! >> >> -- www.foxnews.com -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 20:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2117282 |
On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: > On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in > alt.atheism with message-id > <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: >>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >> >> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. > > Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 06:38 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <anetkbd9p3ljbrb7360rp721oqrjjhmoem@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2117290 |
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> wrote: >On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >> alt.atheism with message-id >> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: >>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >>> >>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. >> >> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. > >That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 20:42 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dr7sh4Fkq2qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2117296 |
On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in > alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> wrote: > >> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >>> alt.atheism with message-id >>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: >>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >>>> >>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. >>> >>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >> >> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. >> > > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the > transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can save $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on a plane ticket, I'll take that deal.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 05:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2117299 |
On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote: > On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in > > alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> wrote: > > > >> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: > >>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in > >>> alt.atheism with message-id > >>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: > >>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! > >>>> > >>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. > >>> > >>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. > >> > >> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. > >> > > > > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the > > transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and streets uncleaned. > > The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social security > programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can save $1,000 in > food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on a plane > ticket, I'll take that deal. Right.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 09:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2117323 |
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in alt.atheism with message-id <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote: >On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote: >> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: >> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in >> > alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> wrote: >> > >> >> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >> >>> alt.atheism with message-id >> >>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio wrote: >> >>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >> >>>> >> >>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is logical. >> >>> >> >>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >> >> >> >> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. >> >> >> > >> > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the >> > transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. > >No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and streets uncleaned. >> >> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social security >> programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can save $1,000 in >> food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on a plane >> ticket, I'll take that deal. > >Right. A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway programs. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-01 15:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA61A9F6AB680noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #2117332 |
Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in
> alt.atheism with message-id
> <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote:
>>> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote:
>>> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> > in alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote:
>>> >>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in
>>> >>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>> >>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is
>>> >>>> logical.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it.
>>> >>
>>> >> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the
>>> > transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers.
>>
>>No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and
>>streets uncleaned.
>>>
>>> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social
>>> security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can save
>>> $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on
>>> a plane ticket, I'll take that deal.
>>
>>Right.
>
> A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway
> programs.
Starting with handouts to corporations.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-01 18:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <q8nukbtv4n47iv9varp28q2dqsnd6agn3f@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2117612 |
On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:39:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <XnsA61A9F6AB680noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >news:p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >> alt.atheism with message-id >> <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote: >>>> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: >>>> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> >>>> > in alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >>>> >>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >>>> >>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>> >>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is >>>> >>>> logical. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >>>> >> >>>> >> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the >>>> > transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. >>> >>>No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and >>>streets uncleaned. >>>> >>>> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social >>>> security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can save >>>> $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on >>>> a plane ticket, I'll take that deal. >>> >>>Right. >> >> A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway >> programs. > > > Starting with handouts to corporations. > > Handouts to individuals far exceed any tax breaks corporations get. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-01 19:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA61AC17D8713Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #2117645 |
Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:q8nukbtv4n47iv9varp28q2dqsnd6agn3f@4ax.com:
> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:39:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <XnsA61A9F6AB680noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote:
>
>>Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in
>>news:p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote:
>>>>> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote:
>>>>> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
>>>>> > in alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote:
>>>>> >>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com
in
>>>>> >>> alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> >>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio
>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!!
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is
>>>>> >>>> logical.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the
>>>>> > transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers.
>>>>
>>>>No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and
>>>>streets uncleaned.
>>>>>
>>>>> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social
>>>>> security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can
save
>>>>> $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on
>>>>> a plane ticket, I'll take that deal.
>>>>
>>>>Right.
>>>
>>> A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway
>>> programs.
>>
>>
>> Starting with handouts to corporations.
>>
>>
> Handouts to individuals far exceed any tax breaks corporations get.
What do you consider a "handout"?
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-01 20:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <01uukbhvtrn205mb7d6m0nk5aiqi2benuf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2117724 |
On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:00:05 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <XnsA61AC17D8713Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >news:q8nukbtv4n47iv9varp28q2dqsnd6agn3f@4ax.com: > >> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:39:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman >> <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <XnsA61A9F6AB680noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >> >>>Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >>>news:p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>> <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote: >>>>>> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: >>>>>> > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>> > in alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >>>>>> >>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com >in >>>>>> >>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>> >>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio >>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is >>>>>> >>>> logical. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the >>>>>> > transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. >>>>> >>>>>No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and >>>>>streets uncleaned. >>>>>> >>>>>> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social >>>>>> security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can >save >>>>>> $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on >>>>>> a plane ticket, I'll take that deal. >>>>> >>>>>Right. >>>> >>>> A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway >>>> programs. >>> >>> >>> Starting with handouts to corporations. >>> >>> >> Handouts to individuals far exceed any tax breaks corporations get. > > > What do you consider a "handout"? > > Unearned income. Including unearned "benefits". -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-02 10:54 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dr9ee4F8ohU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2117728 |
On 02/06/2016 10:05, Attila wrote: > On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:00:05 -0500, Mitchell Holman > <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id > <XnsA61AC17D8713Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: > >> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >> news:q8nukbtv4n47iv9varp28q2dqsnd6agn3f@4ax.com: >> >>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:39:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman >>> <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id >>> <XnsA61A9F6AB680noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >>> >>>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >>>> news:p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>>> <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote: >>>>>>> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com >> in >>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is >>>>>>>>>>> logical. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the >>>>>>>> transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. >>>>>> >>>>>> No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and >>>>>> streets uncleaned. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social >>>>>>> security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can >> save >>>>>>> $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on >>>>>>> a plane ticket, I'll take that deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Right. >>>>> >>>>> A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway >>>>> programs. >>>> >>>> >>>> Starting with handouts to corporations. >>>> >>>> >>> Handouts to individuals far exceed any tax breaks corporations get. >> >> >> What do you consider a "handout"? >> >> > Unearned income. Including unearned "benefits". If you pay into the system, you acquire the right to draw on it in time of need. IT may be a mandatory system, but it still works along the same principles as insurance. If you take out a healthcare policy today and you break your leg next month, you still get the money even though you haven't fully paid in the cost of treatment.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-02 01:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fdhvkbl5uhh69jqg179rqhb3ibl4ebb64s@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2117745 |
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:54:28 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in alt.atheism with message-id <dr9ee4F8ohU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >On 02/06/2016 10:05, Attila wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:00:05 -0500, Mitchell Holman >> <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <XnsA61AC17D8713Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >> >>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >>> news:q8nukbtv4n47iv9varp28q2dqsnd6agn3f@4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:39:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman >>>> <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>> <XnsA61A9F6AB680noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >>>>> news:p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>> <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> >>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism with message-id <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com >>> in >>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva padrepio >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is >>>>>>>>>>>> logical. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the >>>>>>>>> transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and >>>>>>> streets uncleaned. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social >>>>>>>> security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I can >>> save >>>>>>>> $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending $500 on >>>>>>>> a plane ticket, I'll take that deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right. >>>>>> >>>>>> A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway >>>>>> programs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Starting with handouts to corporations. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Handouts to individuals far exceed any tax breaks corporations get. >>> >>> >>> What do you consider a "handout"? >>> >>> >> Unearned income. Including unearned "benefits". > >If you pay into the system, you acquire the right to draw on it in time >of need. I said unearned. Things like Medicaid and Social Security for anyone who did not work to earn the income. Food stamps. Any other welfare payments. > >IT may be a mandatory system, but it still works along the same >principles as insurance. If you take out a healthcare policy today and >you break your leg next month, you still get the money even though you >haven't fully paid in the cost of treatment. > I am aware of how it works. Basically it is like any other Ponzi scheme except participation is mandated by law. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-02 07:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA61B4B6CCD76Cnoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #2117895 |
Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in news:fdhvkbl5uhh69jqg179rqhb3ibl4ebb64s@4ax.com: > On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:54:28 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in > alt.atheism with message-id <dr9ee4F8ohU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: > >>On 02/06/2016 10:05, Attila wrote: >>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:00:05 -0500, Mitchell Holman >>> <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id >>> <XnsA61AC17D8713Anoemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >>> >>>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >>>> news:q8nukbtv4n47iv9varp28q2dqsnd6agn3f@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:39:06 -0500, Mitchell Holman >>>>> <noemail@comcast.net> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>> <XnsA61A9F6AB680noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote in >>>>>> news:p1otkbh8iu6qchoebbujqdkv9np5lsobmi@4ax.com: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT), hhyapster@gmail.com in >>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>> <4e901c5b-d10f-45ad-99b3-75ac0e5257af@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 6:42:48 PM UTC+8, Alex W. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2016 20:38, Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:30:04 +1000, "Alex W." >>>>>>>>>> <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>> <dr7rpaFkj9rU2@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 01/06/2016 19:35, Attila wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT), >>>>>>>>>>>> hhyapster@gmail.com >>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>>>>>>> <8b9ed5aa-8f79-49c7-bd3b-e155d481a0b6@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 AM UTC+8, viva >>>>>>>>>>>>> padrepio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feds spent millions flying illegals around the country!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Distribution of workforce where they are wanted...it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> logical. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Only if the taxpayer doesn't pay for it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That depends whether the taxpayer saves overall. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's hard to see how the taxpayer can benefit from paying the >>>>>>>>>> transportation distribution expenses for unskilled workers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No one wants to see his garbage uncollected, drains clogged and >>>>>>>> streets uncleaned. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The moment transport costs are lower than the cost to social >>>>>>>>> security programmes, it's a net gain to the taxpayer. If I >>>>>>>>> can >>>> save >>>>>>>>> $1,000 in food stamps and unemployment benefits by spending >>>>>>>>> $500 on a plane ticket, I'll take that deal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A better solution is to tighten up on the government giveaway >>>>>>> programs. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting with handouts to corporations. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Handouts to individuals far exceed any tax breaks corporations >>>>> get. >>>> >>>> >>>> What do you consider a "handout"? >>>> >>>> >>> Unearned income. Including unearned "benefits". >> >>If you pay into the system, you acquire the right to draw on it in >>time of need. > > I said unearned. Things like Medicaid and Social Security for anyone > who did not work to earn the income. Food stamps. Any other welfare > payments. How about public schools? Children certainly don't work, so their education is an "unearned benefit", no?
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