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common logical fallacy

Started byDale <dale@dalekelly.org>
First post2016-05-29 13:34 -0400
Last post2016-05-30 23:45 -0400
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  common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 13:34 -0400
    Re: common logical fallacy Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-29 12:46 -0500
      Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 14:55 -0400
        Re: common logical fallacy Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-29 14:19 -0500
          Re: common logical fallacy mur@. - 2016-05-30 23:45 -0400
          Re: common logical fallacy JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 21:51 -0700
      Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-29 22:35 +0100
      Re: common logical fallacy Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-05-29 17:10 -0700
        Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 23:05 -0400
          Re: common logical fallacy Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-29 23:34 -0500
      Re: common logical fallacy JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 21:49 -0700
    Re: common logical fallacy Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-29 10:56 -0700
      Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 14:53 -0400
        Re: common logical fallacy Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-05-29 12:48 -0700
      Re: common logical fallacy Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-29 14:13 -0500
    Re: common logical fallacy Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-29 18:14 +0000
      Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 14:51 -0400
        Re: common logical fallacy Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:06 +0000
          Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 23:07 -0400
            Re: common logical fallacy Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-29 23:35 -0500
    Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-29 22:26 +0100
      Re: common logical fallacy mur@. - 2016-05-30 23:46 -0400
    Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-29 22:44 +0100
      Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-29 22:59 +0100
        Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-29 23:26 +0100
          Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-29 23:51 +0100
            Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-30 00:02 +0100
              Re: common logical fallacy The BORG <borg@future.com> - 2016-05-30 00:05 +0100
                Re: common logical fallacy Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-05-29 16:16 -0700
                  Re: common logical fallacy hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-05-29 17:30 -0700
    Re: common logical fallacy Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-30 12:12 +1000
      Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 23:14 -0400
        Re: common logical fallacy Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-30 13:45 +1000
          Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-30 11:56 -0400
            Re: common logical fallacy Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-31 11:46 +1000
              Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-31 12:48 -0400
                Re: common logical fallacy Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-06-01 12:01 +1000
                  Re: common logical fallacy mur@. - 2016-06-03 22:28 -0400
                    Re: common logical fallacy Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-06-04 17:12 +1000
        Re: common logical fallacy Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-05-29 23:46 -0400
      Re: common logical fallacy mur@. - 2016-05-30 23:45 -0400
        Re: common logical fallacy Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-31 13:53 +1000
          Re: common logical fallacy mur@. - 2016-06-03 22:29 -0400
            Re: common logical fallacy Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-06-04 17:13 +1000
    Re: common logical fallacy mur@. - 2016-05-30 23:45 -0400

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#2116498

Frommur@.
Date2016-05-30 23:45 -0400
Message-ID<p62qkb1lr9svbiu5sdaeekkfmprdtq1r39@4ax.com>
In reply to#2115917
On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:12:50 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
wrote:

>On 30/05/2016 3:34 AM, Dale wrote:
>> Affirming the consequent
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
>>
>>
>>
>> if an atheistic cosmos then some atheistic parts
>>
>> some atheistic parts
>> an atheistic cosmos
>
>> applies to a recent discussion where a poster said abiogenesis (life
>> from non-life) "had" to happen, whereas we have never observed it and
>> observe biogenesis (life from life)
>
>Or you simply misconstrued the posting. If you'd give specifics, we 
>could form a judgement. At the moment, you're asking us to take your 
>conclusion on trust. Now there's a familiar feeling - what does it 
>remind me of?

    Strong atheism is the most faith or conclusion on trust based religious
belief of all, since there could never be any evidence to support it. 

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#2116505

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-05-31 13:53 +1000
Message-ID<dr4g56F271U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2116498
On 31/05/2016 1:45 PM, mur@. wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:12:50 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/05/2016 3:34 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> Affirming the consequent
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> if an atheistic cosmos then some atheistic parts
>>>
>>> some atheistic parts
>>> an atheistic cosmos
>>
>>> applies to a recent discussion where a poster said abiogenesis (life
>>> from non-life) "had" to happen, whereas we have never observed it and
>>> observe biogenesis (life from life)
>>
>> Or you simply misconstrued the posting. If you'd give specifics, we
>> could form a judgement. At the moment, you're asking us to take your
>> conclusion on trust. Now there's a familiar feeling - what does it
>> remind me of?
>
>      Strong atheism is the most faith or conclusion on trust based religious
> belief of all, since there could never be any evidence to support it.
>

What has that to do with this thread?

Sylvia.

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#2119193

Frommur@.
Date2016-06-03 22:29 -0400
Message-ID<j7f4lbpb52orn73k4dh35prpo21r1p5h8u@4ax.com>
In reply to#2116505
On Tue, 31 May 2016 13:53:10 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
wrote:

>On 31/05/2016 1:45 PM, mur@. wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:12:50 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/05/2016 3:34 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>> Affirming the consequent
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> if an atheistic cosmos then some atheistic parts
>>>>
>>>> some atheistic parts
>>>> an atheistic cosmos
>>>
>>>> applies to a recent discussion where a poster said abiogenesis (life
>>>> from non-life) "had" to happen, whereas we have never observed it and
>>>> observe biogenesis (life from life)
>>>
>>> Or you simply misconstrued the posting. If you'd give specifics, we
>>> could form a judgement. At the moment, you're asking us to take your
>>> conclusion on trust. Now there's a familiar feeling - what does it
>>> remind me of?
>>
>>      Strong atheism is the most faith or conclusion on trust based religious
>> belief of all, since there could never be any evidence to support it.
>>
>
>What has that to do with this thread?

    Can't you think of anything it has to do with it?

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#2119263

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-06-04 17:13 +1000
Message-ID<drfdcrF5pi8U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2119193
On 4/06/2016 12:29 PM, mur@. wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2016 13:53:10 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
> wrote:
>
>> On 31/05/2016 1:45 PM, mur@. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:12:50 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/05/2016 3:34 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>>> Affirming the consequent
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> if an atheistic cosmos then some atheistic parts
>>>>>
>>>>> some atheistic parts
>>>>> an atheistic cosmos
>>>>
>>>>> applies to a recent discussion where a poster said abiogenesis (life
>>>>> from non-life) "had" to happen, whereas we have never observed it and
>>>>> observe biogenesis (life from life)
>>>>
>>>> Or you simply misconstrued the posting. If you'd give specifics, we
>>>> could form a judgement. At the moment, you're asking us to take your
>>>> conclusion on trust. Now there's a familiar feeling - what does it
>>>> remind me of?
>>>
>>>       Strong atheism is the most faith or conclusion on trust based religious
>>> belief of all, since there could never be any evidence to support it.
>>>
>>
>> What has that to do with this thread?
>
>      Can't you think of anything it has to do with it?
>

Nup.

Sylvia.

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#2116499

Frommur@.
Date2016-05-30 23:45 -0400
Message-ID<372qkbtnrpmk7diobgtkcojtcj7000rthk@4ax.com>
In reply to#2115623
On Sun, 29 May 2016 13:34:02 -0400, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

>Affirming the consequent
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
>
>
>
>if an atheistic cosmos then some atheistic parts
>
>some atheistic parts
>an atheistic cosmos
>
>
>
>applies to a recent discussion where a poster said abiogenesis (life
>from non-life) "had" to happen, 

    My position on that is:

10. Whether God exists or not it seems apparent that life must have
originated from lifelessness to begin with, and may do it fairly often.

which is another basic starting line atheists can't get as "far" as.

>whereas we have never observed it and
>observe biogenesis (life from life)
>
>also, if an experimenter "could" create life from non-life, the
>experimenter is the creator, is alive and life is the causal factor,
>there for life from life

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