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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 11:27 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-02 08:51 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 12:40 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 18:23 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:17 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-02 14:01 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 15:05 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:12 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-08-02 15:32 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-08-02 14:02 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:19 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-03 03:11 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 09:04 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:42 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-03 18:39 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:01 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-04 15:36 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:55 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-06 04:57 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:50 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-08 06:37 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:46 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-08 04:57 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 08:32 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 14:58 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 18:12 +0200
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:13 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 08:16 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:11 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 14:58 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 00:00 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:19 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 12:22 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 15:42 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-07 15:48 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:26 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:42 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:58 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 12:59 -0700
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:21 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:54 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 13:14 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-10 06:33 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-10 04:48 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:56 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:48 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:23 -0400

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#1951000 — Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
SubjectRe: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Message-ID<alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com>
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>
>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>
>>>>Your funeral.
>>
>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>
>>You don't get a vote.
>
>I am the only one that does.

You'll be dead - body wise.

the dukester, American-American

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#1951332

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
Message-ID<0ibprahc4d1ldolt1k411s0ja959r30nep@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951000
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>
>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>
>>>You don't get a vote.
>>
>>I am the only one that does.
>
>You'll be dead - body wise.
>

Yep, so I really won't care will I?

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Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
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#1951801

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
Message-ID<vlbsrah3mesudq0pip7pc4l2jf178ekhav@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951332
On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>
>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>
>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>
>>>I am the only one that does.
>>
>>You'll be dead - body wise.

>Yep, so I really won't care will I?

God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
soul.  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.  Does/can/will
God reanimate your soul to experience final love or final fires.  I can't answer
that.

However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.

I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#1951827

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-02 11:27 -0400
Message-ID<mplcp0$gnv$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1951801
On 8/2/2015 10:56 AM, duke wrote:
>
> God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
> soul.  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.  Does/can/will
> God reanimate your soul to experience final love or final fires.  I can't answer
> that.
>
> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
> cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.


Wrong again Dukie. According to your bible, Jesus showed Thomas the 
holes in his body where the Roman guard speared him.

I'm sure Talishi can quote chapter and verse. I cbf


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#1951849

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-08-02 08:51 -0700
Message-ID<mple9s02jjq@drn.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1951827
In article <mplcp0$gnv$2@dont-email.me>, HVAC says...
>
>On 8/2/2015 10:56 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the 
>> flesh for 40 days after his cross.  And it was 
>> described as a glorified body, implying a new body.
>
> Wrong again Dukie. According to your bible, 
> Jesus showed Thomas the holes in his body 
> where the Roman guard speared him.
>
>I'm sure Talishi can quote chapter and verse. I cbf
>
John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, 
and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust 
it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

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#1951933

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-08-02 12:40 -0500
Message-ID<lelsra1rruvfbi1b5ubd07jmvpnr48usd3@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951849
On 2 Aug 2015 08:51:24 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>In article <mplcp0$gnv$2@dont-email.me>, HVAC says...
>>
>>On 8/2/2015 10:56 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the 
>>> flesh for 40 days after his cross.  And it was 
>>> described as a glorified body, implying a new body.
>>
>> Wrong again Dukie. According to your bible, 
>> Jesus showed Thomas the holes in his body 
>> where the Roman guard speared him.
>>
>>I'm sure Talishi can quote chapter and verse. I cbf
>>
>John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, 
>and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust 
>it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.


for a second there I thought jesus was gonna say pull my finger :P

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#1951987

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
Message-ID<k72tradv3c2g8maevqei67faclj12alj2r@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951849
On 2 Aug 2015 08:51:24 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>In article <mplcp0$gnv$2@dont-email.me>, HVAC says...
>>
>>On 8/2/2015 10:56 AM, duke wrote:
>>>
>>> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the 
>>> flesh for 40 days after his cross.  And it was 
>>> described as a glorified body, implying a new body.
>>
>> Wrong again Dukie. According to your bible, 
>> Jesus showed Thomas the holes in his body 
>> where the Roman guard speared him.
>>
>>I'm sure Talishi can quote chapter and verse. I cbf
>>
>John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, 
>and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust 
>it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Yep.  So is he a ghost or flesh?

the dukester, American-American

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#1952106

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-08-02 18:23 -0500
Message-ID<ji9tra16g8rg2uv3h4cr6trmdj6lvri4c2@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951987
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:18:04 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

>On 2 Aug 2015 08:51:24 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <mplcp0$gnv$2@dont-email.me>, HVAC says...
>>>
>>>On 8/2/2015 10:56 AM, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the 
>>>> flesh for 40 days after his cross.  And it was 
>>>> described as a glorified body, implying a new body.
>>>
>>> Wrong again Dukie. According to your bible, 
>>> Jesus showed Thomas the holes in his body 
>>> where the Roman guard speared him.
>>>
>>>I'm sure Talishi can quote chapter and verse. I cbf
>>>
>>John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, 
>>and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust 
>>it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
>
>Yep.  So is he a ghost or flesh?

LOL duke believes in ghosts

>
>the dukester, American-American
>
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
>*****

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#1951983

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-02 16:17 -0500
Message-ID<062tra9ior09b0pg7nl293257257n74215@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951827
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 11:27:06 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/2/2015 10:56 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>> God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>> soul.  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.  Does/can/will
>> God reanimate your soul to experience final love or final fires.  I can't answer
>> that.
>>
>> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
>> cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.

>Wrong again Dukie. According to your bible, Jesus showed Thomas the 
>holes in his body where the Roman guard speared him.

It was still a glorified resurrected body.

>I'm sure Talishi can quote chapter and verse. I cbf


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1951841

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
Message-ID<dbesradlf19kthf35lul2f7bvbvfk424er@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951801
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>>
>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>>
>>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>>
>>>>I am the only one that does.
>>>
>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
>
>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
>
>God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>soul.  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.  Does/can/will
>God reanimate your soul to experience final love or final fires.  I can't answer
>that.
>
>However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
>cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.

ahh zombie jesus, I bet the first words he said was "brains"
>
>I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
>way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.
>
>the dukester, American-American
>
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
>*****

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#1951848

Fromwdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
Message-ID<mple96$evl$1@panix2.panix.com>
In reply to#1951841
In article <dbesradlf19kthf35lul2f7bvbvfk424er@4ax.com>,
bilgat@m.nu quoted a fool whom I have killfiled:

> On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40
>> days after his cross.  And it was described as a glorified body,
>> implying a new body.

Wait though, didn't he still have a bunch of excess holes in him?

(See "Doubting Thomas" at John 20:24-29.)

-- wds

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#1951861

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
Message-ID<mplevc$pc7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1951841
On 8/2/2015 11:39 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>
>> However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
>> cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.
>
> ahh zombie jesus, I bet the first words he said was "brains"


Wait...Did you say BRAINS?  "It's not a bad question Bert"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkhCAV3wmIU



-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1951923

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
Message-ID<dcisra59pkv05foqrcdnb58bup9vk1dqsa@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951841
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 10:39:33 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am the only one that does.
>>>>
>>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
>>
>>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
>>
>>God 

WHAT FUCKING GOD?

The psychopath knows we're not Christians, so he knows we don't
believe that nonsense - and he knows we wouldn't even think about it
let alone call it nonsense, if he had the commonsense and courtesy to
keep it where it belongs.

>         made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>>soul.  

WHAT FUCKING SOUL?

He might just well have said it infused a flurblesnod, because his
religious view of "soul" is meaningless to the non-Christians he knows
we are. 

>>      You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.  

Where did the in-your-face moron demonstrate that any of his religious
nonsense is true outside the virtual reality of his religion?

>>                                                                                               Does/can/will
>>God 

WHAT FUCKING GOD?

>>       reanimate your soul 

WHAT FUCKING SOUL?

>>                                       to experience final love 

When my father died, my mother was holding his hand. His final moments
were looking into the eyes of the woman he'd loved most of his adult
life. I think it's rather a nice way to go. 

It was hard for her, because they'd been married for more than fifty
years - and that is why religion came up with the comforting lie all
those centuries ago.

>>                                                                           or final fires.  

WHAT FUCKING FINAL FIRES?

>>                                                                                                I can't answer
>>that.

Or pretty much anything else.

>>However, in our example. Jesus 

WHAT FUCKING JESUS?

And Santa Claus really does deliver toys by flying sleigh, from his
magic factory at the North Pole.

>>                                                     did return in the flesh for 40 days after his

PROVE IT, OR KEEP YOUR STUPID BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE WHERE PEOPLE TAKE
IT SERIOUSLY, psychopath.

>>cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.

Was that meant to make any sense?

>ahh zombie jesus, I bet the first words he said was "brains"

He's seriously mentally ill.

I wouldn't give a toss what he believes, but he has a psychological
obsession with wiping it in the faces of people he knows don't share
his religious beliefs, to the point of neverending religious
harassment over a couple of decades.

 
>>I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
>>way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.

WHAT FUCKING "WHAT WILL COME"?

If the moron thinks he will be doing any more than pushing up the
daisies, let him prove it or shut the fuck up.

>>the dukester, American-American

The Pukester, in-your-face, psychopath, narcissist and retard who
imagines live-and-let-live doesn't apply to him.

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#1951966

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-02 14:01 -0500
Message-ID<mplpej$hb1$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#1951923
> harassment over a couple of decades.
>
>
>>> I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
>>> way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.
>
> WHAT FUCKING "WHAT WILL COME"?
>
> If the moron thinks he will be doing any more than pushing up the
> daisies, let him prove it or shut the fuck up.
>
>>> the dukester, American-American
>
> The Pukester, in-your-face, psychopath, narcissist and retard who
> imagines live-and-let-live doesn't apply to him.
>

May Jesus have mercy on your non-believing lost sole.

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#1951967

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-08-02 15:05 -0500
Message-ID<20usrapqekla2ghbff4246eduhboarrjbs@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951966
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:01:41 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>> harassment over a couple of decades.
>>
>>
>>>> I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
>>>> way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.
>>
>> WHAT FUCKING "WHAT WILL COME"?
>>
>> If the moron thinks he will be doing any more than pushing up the
>> daisies, let him prove it or shut the fuck up.
>>
>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>
>> The Pukester, in-your-face, psychopath, narcissist and retard who
>> imagines live-and-let-live doesn't apply to him.
>>
>
>May Jesus 

What fucking Jesus?

>                             have mercy on your non-believing lost sole.

I know where my soles are, Zacky.

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#1951993

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-08-02 16:12 -0500
Message-ID<1u1tra1oleftcm671dhupoq5gbk5ehhkeb@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951966
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:01:41 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>> harassment over a couple of decades.
>>
>>
>>>> I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
>>>> way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.
>>
>> WHAT FUCKING "WHAT WILL COME"?
>>
>> If the moron thinks he will be doing any more than pushing up the
>> daisies, let him prove it or shut the fuck up.
>>
>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>
>> The Pukester, in-your-face, psychopath, narcissist and retard who
>> imagines live-and-let-live doesn't apply to him.
>>
>
>May Jesus have mercy on your non-believing lost sole.

I relly dont think the guy down at home depot would really care

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#1952060

FromDon Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net>
Date2015-08-02 15:32 -0400
Message-ID<ffqsratv5jr28r8es6siirf6mckvsf0hd1@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951966
On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:01:41 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
wrote:

>> harassment over a couple of decades.
>>
>>
>>>> I can't tell you how all this works and doesn't work.  I can only relate to the
>>>> way it was presented to us.  And I accept what will come.
>>
>> WHAT FUCKING "WHAT WILL COME"?
>>
>> If the moron thinks he will be doing any more than pushing up the
>> daisies, let him prove it or shut the fuck up.
>>
>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>
>> The Pukester, in-your-face, psychopath, narcissist and retard who
>> imagines live-and-let-live doesn't apply to him.
>>
>May Jesus have mercy on your non-believing lost sole.

Cobblers do more than Jesus can
To restore all lost soles unto man.

-- 
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
The Squeeky Wheel:  http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
          Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

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#1951991

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
Message-ID<p82tradsdeefslbfbl4vh14shj2pv6giqu@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951841
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 10:39:33 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote:

>On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:56:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:50 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:38:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><alqnrad16474iem2ht3610ard5kjcjhfrr@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:00:35 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:18:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><8k1lrah60tmh9kmj4na39snnr6chnftc9l@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>That's the human animation given by God to his creation.  Thus it takes a desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>for to perform evil, a desire to listen to satan to turn to hate over love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>wrong over right, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I see opinion.  No evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I see hard pressed ignorance and no desire to learn.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Still no evidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Your funeral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As I have told you several times I will not have one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You don't get a vote.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am the only one that does.
>>>>
>>>>You'll be dead - body wise.
>>
>>>Yep, so I really won't care will I?
>>
>>God made arrangement for you in a physical body via conception, and infused a
>>soul.  You physical body dies, but the soul is indestructible.  Does/can/will
>>God reanimate your soul to experience final love or final fires.  I can't answer
>>that.
>>
>>However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
>>cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.
>
>ahh zombie jesus, I bet the first words he said was "brains"

He wasn't ordering for you.


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1951874

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
Message-ID<d26u2vF2binU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#1951801
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

>However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
>cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.

If it was a new body, how come it was recreated with the holes in the
hands?

-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#1951941

FromDon Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net>
Date2015-08-02 14:02 -0400
Message-ID<edmsrap3k5aoujhl4qr82vsvhm017lu4a6@4ax.com>
In reply to#1951874
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 10:15:34 -0600, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:

>duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>However, in our example. Jesus did return in the flesh for 40 days after his
>>cross.  And it was described as a glorified body, implying a new body.
>
>If it was a new body, how come it was recreated with the holes in the
>hands?

To facilitate hanging out with his new buddies?

-- 
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
The Squeeky Wheel:  http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
          Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

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