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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2015-07-11 12:10 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-07-15 00:34 -0700 |
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What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-11 12:10 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? The Love of Christ <lovejesus.or die@yahoo.net> - 2015-07-11 15:23 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-11 14:49 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 17:13 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 16:50 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 23:52 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 05:49 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:38 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 13:03 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 12:51 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:57 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:29 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:11 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:22 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 21:38 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:55 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:28 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 21:55 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:07 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 18:53 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:32 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 09:09 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 11:30 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 12:25 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:39 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-14 10:56 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:29 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 19:49 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-15 09:56 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-07-14 18:20 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-15 10:11 +0100
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-14 19:48 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-14 18:54 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 08:51 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-15 10:00 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:10 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 15:42 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-12 19:25 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:09 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:16 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-11 14:46 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-11 16:10 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:39 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-12 16:58 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-11 21:16 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-11 16:58 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-11 16:49 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-12 01:11 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-11 20:43 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-07-12 02:21 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-12 10:00 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-12 11:23 +0100
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-12 07:50 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Rockinghorse Winner <rhorse@sonic.net> - 2015-07-12 18:40 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 02:09 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 21:41 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-12 16:12 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:11 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:16 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:31 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:42 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-15 20:32 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:25 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:09 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-12 11:16 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-12 09:28 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-07-12 13:31 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-12 21:48 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:20 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com - 2015-07-11 15:55 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:06 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-07-12 05:51 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-12 10:45 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-13 18:55 +1000
Re: What is an Atheist? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2015-07-13 04:18 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-14 16:10 +1000
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 01:37 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-14 01:22 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-14 11:23 +0100
Re: What is an Atheist? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-07-14 23:09 +1000
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-14 08:13 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-07-14 17:56 +0200
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:30 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-13 08:01 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 22:04 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-14 11:20 +0100
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 10:14 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> - 2015-07-13 13:33 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 16:02 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:37 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:18 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-13 16:03 -0500
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 18:54 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 12:05 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2015-07-13 20:50 +0100
Re: What is an Atheist? Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 13:44 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-07-13 16:48 -0400
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-13 21:16 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-13 17:23 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-13 23:19 -0700
Re: What is an Atheist? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-14 19:40 +0000
Re: What is an Atheist? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 00:34 -0700
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 00:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fcc85ab8-3286-4cc5-a512-65cd96fcd761@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1941941 |
On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:16:05 PM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: > > > > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 16:12:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > >> > > >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 16:49:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> > Smiler wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:10:58 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... > > >> >> > but what exactly is an Atheist person? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > From observation.. > > >> >> > it's a person obbsessed with...God. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Fact is, > > >> >> > Atheist think more about God than religious people do. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Most religious people don't think about God because they are > > >> >> > already at peace with their God. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Atheist spend most of their life at war with their God.. > > >> >> > they are simply people who are not at peace with the God inside > > >> >> > them. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > It's a constant war. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Will they ever find peace? > > >> >> > > >> >> What god would that be? You have yet to show any evidence for such a > > >> >> being. > > >> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > When yous say "Oh My God!", what god would that be? > > >> > > >> As I never say that, you tell me. > > > > > > Have you ever told anyone..."Go to Hell!"? what hell would that be? > > > > Nope. > > > > > Or "God damnit!"? > > > > Nope. > > > > > Or... "God noooo!" > > > > Never. > > > > > Or "Hell Yes!!!" > > > > Nope. > > > > > You mean atheist girls don't say "OH MY GOD!!!" when they are having a > > > oganism? > > > > Nope, not the ones I've known. > > > Now that I believe! > > > Now why don't you give me your girlfriend or wife phone number? She'll > be screaming "OH MY GOD!!!" when i'm thru with them... We openly see how evil you bastard believers are ! > > i'm going to batize her. Surely your two balls will be fed to the hyena.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 20:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mo6g0a$k91$8@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1942430 |
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:42:54 -0700, hhyapster wrote: > On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:16:05 PM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: >> Smiler wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 16:12:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> > >> > > Smiler wrote: >> > >> >> > >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 16:49:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > Smiler wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:10:58 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... >> > >> >> > but what exactly is an Atheist person? >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > From observation.. >> > >> >> > it's a person obbsessed with...God. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Fact is, >> > >> >> > Atheist think more about God than religious people do. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Most religious people don't think about God because they are >> > >> >> > already at peace with their God. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Atheist spend most of their life at war with their God.. >> > >> >> > they are simply people who are not at peace with the God >> > >> >> > inside them. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > It's a constant war. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Will they ever find peace? >> > >> >> >> > >> >> What god would that be? You have yet to show any evidence for >> > >> >> such a being. >> > >> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > When yous say "Oh My God!", what god would that be? >> > >> >> > >> As I never say that, you tell me. >> > > >> > > Have you ever told anyone..."Go to Hell!"? what hell would that be? >> > >> > Nope. >> > >> > > Or "God damnit!"? >> > >> > Nope. >> > >> > > Or... "God noooo!" >> > >> > Never. >> > >> > > Or "Hell Yes!!!" >> > >> > Nope. >> > >> > > You mean atheist girls don't say "OH MY GOD!!!" when they are >> > > having a oganism? >> > >> > Nope, not the ones I've known. >> >> >> Now that I believe! >> >> >> Now why don't you give me your girlfriend or wife phone number? She'll >> be screaming "OH MY GOD!!!" when i'm thru with them... > > We openly see how evil you bastard believers are ! >> >> i'm going to batize her. > > Surely your two balls will be fed to the hyena. You mean he has *two*!?!? I'm certain that he has only one. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 00:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ace3384f-ab24-4a76-b5a9-f350778b4474@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1941161 |
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 7:12:42 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: > > > > On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 16:49:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > >> > > >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:10:58 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> > I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... > > >> > but what exactly is an Atheist person? > > >> > > > >> > From observation.. > > >> > it's a person obbsessed with...God. > > >> > > > >> > Fact is, > > >> > Atheist think more about God than religious people do. > > >> > > > >> > Most religious people don't think about God because they are already > > >> > at peace with their God. > > >> > > > >> > Atheist spend most of their life at war with their God.. > > >> > they are simply people who are not at peace with the God inside them. > > >> > > > >> > It's a constant war. > > >> > > > >> > Will they ever find peace? > > >> > > >> What god would that be? You have yet to show any evidence for such a > > >> being. > > >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > > > > > > > > When yous say "Oh My God!", what god would that be? > > > > As I never say that, you tell me. > > Have you ever told anyone..."Go to Hell!"? what hell would that be? > > > Or "God damnit!"? > > > > Or... "God noooo!" > > > Or "Hell Yes!!!" > > You mean atheist girls don't say "OH MY GOD!!!" when they are having a > oganism? Could it be god of oganism?
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 00:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <be283da2-fb34-480f-8420-3bd8b4b3b51d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1940672 |
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 7:49:53 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: > > > > On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:10:58 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... > > > but what exactly is an Atheist person? > > > > > > From observation.. > > > it's a person obbsessed with...God. > > > > > > Fact is, > > > Atheist think more about God than religious people do. > > > > > > Most religious people don't think about God because they are already at > > > peace with their God. > > > > > > Atheist spend most of their life at war with their God.. > > > they are simply people who are not at peace with the God inside them. > > > > > > It's a constant war. > > > > > > Will they ever find peace? > > > > What god would that be? You have yet to show any evidence for such a being. > > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > > When yous say "Oh My God!", what god would that be? May be there is an unknown atheist god...since most atheists remain in firm disbelieve in your sky pixie? Or, couldn't our god be the "natural" nature of the universe?
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-12 11:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2m45qatngmm9aqs167r36qskfr9hitbuva@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1940631 |
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: >On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:10:58 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > >> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... >> but what exactly is an Atheist person? >> >> From observation.. >> it's a person obbsessed with...God. >> >> Fact is, >> Atheist think more about God than religious people do. >> >> Most religious people don't think about God because they are already at >> peace with their God. >> >> Atheist spend most of their life at war with their God.. >> they are simply people who are not at peace with the God inside them. >> >> It's a constant war. >> >> Will they ever find peace? > >What god would that be? You have yet to show any evidence for such a being. >Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. We hear from God in the Holy Books. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-12 09:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ece2b3d0-5fc5-4c3b-ba05-4132e29e895c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1940993 |
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 12:16:28 PM UTC-4, duke wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: > > >On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:10:58 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... > >> but what exactly is an Atheist person? > >> > >> From observation.. > >> it's a person obbsessed with...God. > >> > >> Fact is, > >> Atheist think more about God than religious people do. > >> > >> Most religious people don't think about God because they are already at > >> peace with their God. > >> > >> Atheist spend most of their life at war with their God.. > >> they are simply people who are not at peace with the God inside them. > >> > >> It's a constant war. > >> > >> Will they ever find peace? > > > >What god would that be? You have yet to show any evidence for such a being. > >Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > We hear from God in the Holy Books. > We can't help the voices you hear, Dork. But the rest of us take our ques from reality. PDW
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| From | "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-12 13:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mnu895$19n$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1940993 |
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:2m45qatngmm9aqs167r36qskfr9hitbuva@4ax.com... > We hear from God in the Holy Books. > Where do the Upanishads mention your god? I didn't read a word about him in the works of Homer. There's no mention of him in the Vedas, Bhagavad Gita, or the Buddhist Sutras. And you claim there is only one god! Well OK, prove that the gods mentioned in the above books, or shut the fuck up about your childish notion of your god. > the dukester, Fat American > > ***** > "The Mass is the most perfect waste of time." > Pope Paul VI > *****
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-07-12 21:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mnunbr$1jr$3@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1941033 |
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 13:31:15 -0400, Tim wrote: > "duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message > news:2m45qatngmm9aqs167r36qskfr9hitbuva@4ax.com... > > >> We hear from God in the Holy Books. >> >> > Where do the Upanishads mention your god? I didn't read a word about him > in the works of Homer. There's no mention of him in the Vedas, Bhagavad > Gita, or the Buddhist Sutras. And you claim there is only one god! Well > OK, prove that the gods mentioned in the above books, or shut the fuck > up about your childish notion of your god. You forget the Eddas, The Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Koran. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 00:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ddb10c95-5ab6-4ad4-a79f-d24aada8a18f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1940993 |
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 12:16:28 AM UTC+8, duke wrote: > On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: > > >On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 12:10:58 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >> I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... > >> but what exactly is an Atheist person? > >> > >> From observation.. > >> it's a person obbsessed with...God. > >> > >> Fact is, > >> Atheist think more about God than religious people do. > >> > >> Most religious people don't think about God because they are already at > >> peace with their God. > >> > >> Atheist spend most of their life at war with their God.. > >> they are simply people who are not at peace with the God inside them. > >> > >> It's a constant war. > >> > >> Will they ever find peace? > > > >What god would that be? You have yet to show any evidence for such a being. > >Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > We hear from God in the Holy Books. So, your god is something un-presentable? Powerless? Impotent? Or non-existent? > > the dukester, American-American > > ***** > "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." > Pope Paul VI > *****
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| From | rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-11 15:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d886d61b-70a6-42c9-9636-bad858705709@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1940558 |
On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 2:11:00 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... but what > exactly is an Atheist person? From observation.. it's a > person obbsessed with...God. If your observations are based purely on evidence that after kicking down an atheist's front door and hurling condescending accusations at them, that they respond defensibly to your theistic fascism, well, you're only observing a small portion of an atheist's life -- and an anger which *YOU* in fact provoked. Much more data is required before any sane conclusions can be made, much less "scientific conclusions". Atheists span a broad range of diverse backgrounds and dispositions. Yes we have militant members, but the vast majority of us are moral, stable, sane, and productive members of society. But many times the "militant behavior" is merely a justified reaction to verbal and/or physical assaults on our rights as human beings to dis-believe in X, Y, or Z religion(s). We don't want to *PARTICIPATE*, we want to simply be left alone! A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE: I can remember in my teenage years being invited to a church service by friends. I had recently been discussing with them the hypocrisies of religion (politely of course) and the minister had already known i was a disbeliever, because my "friends" had already consulted with the minister about how to "save my soul". Of course, i was not aware of the evil conspiracy until i attended the service. During the service (about half way through), the minister approached me and he asked me to commit my heart to Jesus. He wanted me to come forward and repent for my sins in front of the entire church members. He wanted me to become overwhelmed with guilt. He wanted me to become a subject. However when i politely declined (for the third time!), he became very angry. His face turned red and his eyes filled with hate. He then returned to his pulpit and began screaming and ranting about how the devil was in the mist of his flock. And how the devil was attempting to lead his flock away from god. And at one climatic point, he even threw a bible into a wall about 20ft away! It was quite a show folks! Most atheist would have walk out. Heck most atheists would never have attended! But i've always been one who gets a thrill from "tempting fate". Besides, at that point, i felt i had a duty to stay and show a gutsy resolve against such fascism. After the service was over i walked out and never attended another church service since. I'm firmly convinced that if i had refused the offer in another political time, or in certain parts of our "modern world", i would have been lynched by the church members and roasted on a BBQ. When i think of all the murders these devils have committed in the name of god i should be militant, but i'm not. Perhaps i'm better at channeling my "inner Socrates" than others? (may his memory and bravery never be forgotten!) But i never became angry towards the minister or his "flock". No, i actually pity them. And to my surprise, my friends ended up leaving that church a few months later. They told me the atmosphere had become "cult-ish". (ya think?) They eventually joined another church, but they never invited me to any services again! O:-) I always wanted to asked those church member's a rhetorical question. And since i never got the chance back then, i guess i'll ask now. Q: If your god is *SO* powerful, then how could a simple little polite atheist heathen, like myself, be such a threat? It's an open letter to all my "theist friends". Cheers!
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 00:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <618e161d-5b79-47d0-9183-cab0366ec1b9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1940656 |
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 6:55:55 AM UTC+8, rantingri...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 2:11:00 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > I don't mean what is the definition of atheism... but what > > exactly is an Atheist person? From observation.. it's a > > person obbsessed with...God. > > If your observations are based purely on evidence that after > kicking down an atheist's front door and hurling > condescending accusations at them, that they respond > defensibly to your theistic fascism, well, you're only > observing a small portion of an atheist's life -- and an > anger which *YOU* in fact provoked. Much more data is > required before any sane conclusions can be made, much less > "scientific conclusions". > > Atheists span a broad range of diverse backgrounds and > dispositions. Yes we have militant members, but the vast > majority of us are moral, stable, sane, and productive > members of society. But many times the "militant behavior" > is merely a justified reaction to verbal and/or physical > assaults on our rights as human beings to dis-believe in X, > Y, or Z religion(s). We don't want to *PARTICIPATE*, we want > to simply be left alone! > > A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE: > > I can remember in my teenage years being invited to a > church service by friends. I had recently been discussing > with them the hypocrisies of religion (politely of course) > and the minister had already known i was a disbeliever, > because my "friends" had already consulted with the > minister about how to "save my soul". Of course, i was not > aware of the evil conspiracy until i attended the service. > > During the service (about half way through), the minister > approached me and he asked me to commit my heart to Jesus. > He wanted me to come forward and repent for my sins in > front of the entire church members. He wanted me to become > overwhelmed with guilt. He wanted me to become a subject. > > However when i politely declined (for the third time!), he > became very angry. His face turned red and his eyes filled > with hate. He then returned to his pulpit and began > screaming and ranting about how the devil was in the mist > of his flock. And how the devil was attempting to lead his > flock away from god. And at one climatic point, he even > threw a bible into a wall about 20ft away! > > It was quite a show folks! Most atheist would have walk > out. Heck most atheists would never have attended! But i've > always been one who gets a thrill from "tempting fate". > Besides, at that point, i felt i had a duty to stay and > show a gutsy resolve against such fascism. After the > service was over i walked out and never attended another > church service since. Great encounter and gutsy response. But, if I were you, I would have challenged the minister for his direct show of a deity. "It is not your job ! Let it be shown to me personally ....." would be my response. > > I'm firmly convinced that if i had refused the offer in > another political time, or in certain parts of our "modern > world", i would have been lynched by the church members and > roasted on a BBQ. When i think of all the murders these > devils have committed in the name of god i should be > militant, but i'm not. Perhaps i'm better at channeling my > "inner Socrates" than others? (may his memory and bravery > never be forgotten!) > > But i never became angry towards the minister or his > "flock". No, i actually pity them. And to my surprise, my > friends ended up leaving that church a few months later. > They told me the atmosphere had become "cult-ish". (ya > think?) They eventually joined another church, but they > never invited me to any services again! O:-) Many churches spring up because the ministers are jobless and in need of income. The US televangelists are on the top of the shameless list. > > I always wanted to asked those church member's a rhetorical > question. And since i never got the chance back then, i > guess i'll ask now. > > Q: If your god is *SO* powerful, then how could a simple > little polite atheist heathen, like myself, be such a threat? On the other hand, you are not a threat. But you are not a wealth contributor to their coffers. It is all about money. > > It's an open letter to all my "theist friends". Cheers!
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| From | "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-12 05:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mntdc2$76h$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1940558 |
"The Starmaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:55A16A42.6D0B@ix.netcom.com... > I don't mean > what is the definition > of atheism... > but what exactly is > an Atheist person? So you do mean what is the definition, which makes you suspect, very suspect. > > From observation.. > it's a person > obbsessed with...God. > So then, you're claiming that they are the same as theists? > Fact is, > Atheist think more > about God than > religious people do. Where did you run into that fact? > > Most religious people > don't think about God > because they are already > at peace with their God. So they go to church and ignore all that god speak? > > Atheist spend most > of their life at > war with their God.. > they are simply people > who are not at > peace with the God > inside them. Which god, and how the hell did it get in me? > > It's a constant war. > > Will they ever find peace? I'm an atheist, gods rarely come to my mind, I'm not at war and my life is quite peaceful. Your problem is that you see your dreams, aspirations, and hopes as facts.
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| From | Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-12 10:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <33b33c40-cb98-4228-9c82-d459e39706bc@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1940558 |
On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 2:11:00 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > From observation.. > it's a person > obbsessed with... From observation... Theists are people who can't spell or think clearly but are so sure that other people need to hear their crazy opinions.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2015-07-13 18:55 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <d0hcn8Fg5lsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1940558 |
An atheist is a person who doubts that God exists, but feels no need to kill people who hold a different view. Sylvia.
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| From | "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@usa.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-13 04:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <Ua2dnZg00-f6Az7InZ2dnUU7-IudnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #1941399 |
"Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:d0hcn8Fg5lsU1@mid.individual.net... > An atheist is a person who doubts that God exists, but > feels no need to kill people who hold a different view. > > Sylvia. You apparently have not heard of the bloodshed of millions of theists by militant atheists during the times of the French revolution, Stalin, Mao Zedong and others. Yes it happened. Andrew
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 16:10 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <d0jnemF3t0kU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1941431 |
On 13/07/2015 9:18 PM, Andrew wrote: > "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:d0hcn8Fg5lsU1@mid.individual.net... > >> An atheist is a person who doubts that God exists, but >> feels no need to kill people who hold a different view. >> >> Sylvia. > > You apparently have not heard of the bloodshed of millions > of theists by militant atheists during the times of the French > revolution, Stalin, Mao Zedong and others. Yes it happened. > > > Andrew > > > Psychopaths kill people. Some of them are atheists. Sylvia.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 01:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <a6b9qa9d3c0jv7giltrdvtqa38tjb90fje@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1941939 |
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 16:10:30 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 13/07/2015 9:18 PM, Andrew wrote: >> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:d0hcn8Fg5lsU1@mid.individual.net... >> >>> An atheist is a person who doubts that God exists, but >>> feels no need to kill people who hold a different view. >>> >>> Sylvia. >> >> You apparently have not heard of the bloodshed of millions >> of theists by militant atheists during the times of the French >> revolution, Stalin, Mao Zedong and others. Yes it happened. Anne Drool's usual deliberate nastiness - he knows perfectly well that atheism is a non-event because all it is, is a description saying that we _don't_ do something - not that we do. We've been through this regularly with the in-your-face, proven, serial Liar For God. Atheism neither motivates nor justifies anything at all, because it is no different from nor watching baseball, not collecting stamps, not speaking Swahili, or anything else we don't do. No matter how many psychopathic, deliberately nasty Christians lie about us, to our faces. >> Andrew > >Psychopaths kill people. Some of them are atheists. > >Sylvia. Dictators do what dictators do - however if they are atheists, they are absent the biggest motivation and justification theists have.
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 01:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-E69F7D.01220414072015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1941939 |
In article <d0jnemF3t0kU1@mid.individual.net>, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: > On 13/07/2015 9:18 PM, Andrew wrote: > > "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:d0hcn8Fg5lsU1@mid.individual.net... > > > >> An atheist is a person who doubts that God exists, but > >> feels no need to kill people who hold a different view. > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > You apparently have not heard of the bloodshed of millions > > of theists by militant atheists during the times of the French > > revolution, Stalin, Mao Zedong and others. Yes it happened. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > Psychopaths kill people. Some of them are atheists. > > Sylvia. Exactly. -- JD Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 11:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <4ko9qatmj6dfk1vp0mh4b8qbdfm1vj5piv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1941939 |
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 16:10:30 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 13/07/2015 9:18 PM, Andrew wrote: >> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:d0hcn8Fg5lsU1@mid.individual.net... >> >>> An atheist is a person who doubts that God exists, but >>> feels no need to kill people who hold a different view. >>> >>> Sylvia. >> >> You apparently have not heard of the bloodshed of millions >> of theists by militant atheists during the times of the French >> revolution, Stalin, Mao Zedong and others. Yes it happened. >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> > >Psychopaths kill people. Some of them are atheists. Thank for admitting that some are not and therefore being atheist is irrrelevant to whether people are Psychopaths who kill or not -- Les Hellawell Greetings from YORKSHIRE The White Rose County "Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding". Martin Luther This means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said makes any sense
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 23:09 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <d0kfvuF9u85U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1941994 |
On 14/07/2015 8:23 PM, Les Hellawell wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 16:10:30 +1000, Sylvia Else > <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: > >> On 13/07/2015 9:18 PM, Andrew wrote: >>> "Sylvia Else" wrote in message news:d0hcn8Fg5lsU1@mid.individual.net... >>> >>>> An atheist is a person who doubts that God exists, but >>>> feels no need to kill people who hold a different view. >>>> >>>> Sylvia. >>> >>> You apparently have not heard of the bloodshed of millions >>> of theists by militant atheists during the times of the French >>> revolution, Stalin, Mao Zedong and others. Yes it happened. >>> >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >> >> Psychopaths kill people. Some of them are atheists. > > Thank for admitting that some are not and therefore being > atheist is irrrelevant to whether people are Psychopaths who > kill or not > Admitting? I think you've lost track of the context. Sylvia.
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