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Is there a God, Yes or No?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-02-20 15:14 -0800
Last post2016-03-03 06:59 -0800
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  Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 15:14 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 15:25 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 17:26 -0700
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 17:32 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:36 -0700
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:52 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:16 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-21 19:28 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 01:14 -0800
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-22 02:04 -0800
                      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 17:55 -0800
                        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mattb. <trdell1234@outlook.com> - 2016-02-22 18:08 -0800
                          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 00:20 -0800
                            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:51 -0800
                          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-24 00:23 -0800
                            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 11:43 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:46 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-20 19:45 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:49 -0700
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 13:53 +0000
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 13:52 +0000
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:31 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-24 23:23 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-20 19:43 -0600
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:47 -0700
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-21 19:21 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 20:24 -0700
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-22 00:48 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-23 00:34 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-22 06:16 -0600
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:46 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-23 12:44 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-02-25 12:53 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-02-26 02:04 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-28 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-29 23:44 +0000
                      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-01 11:21 -0600
                        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-01 20:40 +0000
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 12:11 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:06 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 16:20 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 00:47 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 17:04 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-02-20 17:28 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:49 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:30 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 18:42 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Ted&Alice Street" <sam.tedesco@notgmail.c> - 2016-02-21 12:38 +0000
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Norm X" <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-20 18:45 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Norm X" <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-20 19:13 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-20 20:28 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:56 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-02-22 08:54 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 02:55 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-02-21 03:42 -0500
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 11:32 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 12:41 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-21 18:45 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 20:20 -0800
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:27 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-22 17:57 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-23 00:42 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-28 20:08 -0800
                [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:15 +0800
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-02-29 10:09 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-29 11:04 -0800
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-29 23:52 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:05 -0800
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:55 +0800
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-01 14:11 -0800
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 21:45 +0800
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 18:34 -0800
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-03 00:40 -0800
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-03-03 15:29 -0500
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-23 14:12 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 17:11 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 22:03 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2016-02-23 15:49 -0500
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 21:58 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:33 +0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-23 00:38 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-21 11:35 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-02-22 09:09 -0500
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-23 03:33 +0000
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-22 20:21 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-23 18:20 +0000
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-02-23 12:43 -0600
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 12:56 +1100
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-24 00:04 -0800
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 23:03 +1100
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-02-24 13:12 +0100
          Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-02-24 08:32 -0500
          Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-03 11:30 +1100
            WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-03-02 17:18 -0800
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 21:10 -0500
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Chrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 20:18 -0700
                WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-03-02 19:54 -0800
                  Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-02 23:36 -0800
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-03-02 23:14 -0700
                Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:52 -0700
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-03 18:45 +1100
              Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML). Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-03-03 22:29 -0400
            Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-03-02 23:56 -0500
              Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-03 18:46 +1100
                Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug. Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-03-03 19:55 -0500
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-24 04:18 -0600
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-24 23:03 +1100
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-25 02:49 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-25 08:53 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-28 23:33 +1100
        Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 21:23 +0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-24 23:34 +0000
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:40 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-25 08:56 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 16:58 +0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-26 19:08 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-25 02:53 -0800
          Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-25 08:55 -0600
            Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 16:59 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 03:33 -0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 08:56 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 23:46 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-26 14:16 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 12:25 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-02-26 23:21 -0600
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 22:02 -0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 08:07 -0800
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-27 10:02 -0800
                Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 23:38 +0800
                  Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 12:00 -0500
                    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 23:55 +0800
              Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-02-26 19:10 -0800
    Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-26 20:14 -0800
      Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 06:59 -0800

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#2064705

From"Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
Date2016-02-23 15:49 -0500
Message-ID<naigeu$8ll$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2063578

The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Bast wrote:
>>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> If you ask people
>>>> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
>>>> You either going to get
>>>> a Yes or No answer.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Most certainly,.... I exist.
>>
>> oh, oh...another 'think therefore, must be an I there somewhere'.
>>
>> Who is "I"?
>>
>> "I" doesn't exist..."I" is an illusion...a virtual person.
>>
>> There is no proof that an "I" exist.
>>
>> Therefore...I don't think.
>
>
> Atheist claim that God is a imaginary person...suppose that's true?
>
> God could be imagining He is God.
>
>
> God is probably saying right now..."I think, therefore I'm am.





No,...I'm wondering what I should cook for dinner after work. 

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#2063872

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-21 21:58 -0800
Message-ID<1557829d-fba4-433c-b747-3806cee76c76@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2063538
On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 11:32:39 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Bast wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > If you ask people
> > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > > You either going to get
> > > a Yes or No answer.
> > >
> > 
> > Most certainly,.... I exist.
> 
> 
> 
> oh, oh...another 'think therefore, must be an I there somewhere'.
> 
> 
> 
> Who is "I"?
> 
> 
> "I" doesn't exist..."I" is an illusion...a virtual person.
> 
> 
> There is no proof that an "I" exist.
> 
> 
> Therefore...I don't think.

We believe you.

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#2064215

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-23 06:33 +0800
Message-ID<nag25v$k3i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2063344
On 2/21/2016 4:42 PM, Bast wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>> If you ask people
>> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
>> You either going to get
>> a Yes or No answer.
>>
>
>
> Most certainly,.... I exist.
>
>

Why not ask: Is there someone watching your back? :)

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#2064419

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-02-23 00:38 -0800
Message-ID<730e6532-6c90-47f3-8c57-a42777fbbca1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2063344
On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 3:42:08 AM UTC-5, Bast wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > If you ask people
> > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > You either going to get
> > a Yes or No answer.
> >
> 
> 
> Most certainly,.... I exist.

Meow?

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#2063539

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-02-21 11:35 -0800
Message-ID<56CA1192.13A5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2063133
benj wrote:
> 
> On 02/20/2016 06:23 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> > On 2/20/16 5:14 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> If you ask people
> >> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> >
> >
> >
> >    The concept og gods is an invention on man.
> 
> And the way you know this is?  Ah, you've borrowed some "superpowers"
> from HVAC again.
> 
> How about acting like you actually know some science and ask Starfaker
> to define exactly what he means by "a God", before you flap your yap
> about it?  Ask HVAC to join the conversation and you'll have a perfect
> trio of ignorance and atheist bluster.


somethings are known about God...

like for example, He dosesn't play dice.



but, i'm not sure what language He speaks...

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#2064000

From"Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com>
Date2016-02-22 09:09 -0500
Message-ID<naf4ku$qv1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#2063133
	"Yes, NOW there is a God."

-- 
                      Sea Wasp
                        /^\
                        ;;;	
Website: http://www.grandcentralarena.com  Blog: 
http://seawasp.livejournal.com

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#2064353

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-02-23 03:33 +0000
Message-ID<nagjtp$oir$21@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2063133
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:14:26 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:

> If you ask people "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> You either going to get a Yes or No answer.

That would depend on which of the 30,000+ gods known to have been 
worshipped by mankind you're talking about. Certainly some of them are 
know to (have) exist(ed).

> The answer is either Yes or No.

Maybe.

> But...if you ask God the same question..

Logical error of assuming your conclusion.
If there isn't a god, how could you do that?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2064363

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-02-22 20:21 -0800
Message-ID<56CBDE41.FAC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2064353
Smiler wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:14:26 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > If you ask people "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > You either going to get a Yes or No answer.
> 
> That would depend on which of the 30,000+ gods known to have been
> worshipped by mankind you're talking about. Certainly some of them are
> know to (have) exist(ed).
> 
> > The answer is either Yes or No.
> 
> Maybe.
> 
> > But...if you ask God the same question..
> 
> Logical error of assuming your conclusion.
> If there isn't a god, how could you do that?


"If"????  you don't sound too sure...

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#2064622

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-02-23 18:20 +0000
Message-ID<nai7th$1qsm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2064363
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:21:21 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:

> Smiler wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:14:26 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> > If you ask people "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
>> > You either going to get a Yes or No answer.
>> 
>> That would depend on which of the 30,000+ gods known to have been
>> worshipped by mankind you're talking about. Certainly some of them are
>> know to (have) exist(ed).
>> 
>> > The answer is either Yes or No.
>> 
>> Maybe.
>> 
>> > But...if you ask God the same question..
>> 
>> Logical error of assuming your conclusion.
>> If there isn't a god, how could you do that?
> 
> "If"????  you don't sound too sure...

There's at least one proven-to-be-existent claimed god that one could ask.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2064634

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2016-02-23 12:43 -0600
Message-ID<e0apcbp1lnlnaeliq7h30e27j3kigcsrmq@4ax.com>
In reply to#2064622
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:20:33 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:21:21 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> Smiler wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:14:26 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> 
>>> > If you ask people "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
>>> > You either going to get a Yes or No answer.
>>> 
>>> That would depend on which of the 30,000+ gods known to have been
>>> worshipped by mankind you're talking about. Certainly some of them are
>>> know to (have) exist(ed).
>>> 
>>> > The answer is either Yes or No.
>>> 
>>> Maybe.
>>> 
>>> > But...if you ask God the same question..
>>> 
>>> Logical error of assuming your conclusion.
>>> If there isn't a god, how could you do that?
>> 
>> "If"????  you don't sound too sure...

Whata a fucking moron.

>There's at least one proven-to-be-existent claimed god that one could ask.

It was just being its usual asshole self.

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#2064873

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-24 12:56 +1100
Message-ID<dj4gu7Frb8dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2063133
On 21/02/2016 10:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> If you ask people
> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> You either going to get
> a Yes or No answer.
>
> The answer is either Yes or No.
>
> But...if you ask God the same question..
>
> His answer would be...
>
>
> "That's a little bit of a hard question to answer."
>
> God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
>

Why are people required to comply with the "yes or no" constraint, but 
not God?

Sylvia.

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#2064967

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-02-24 00:04 -0800
Message-ID<56CD642B.7970@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2064873
Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> On 21/02/2016 10:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > If you ask people
> > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
> > You either going to get
> > a Yes or No answer.
> >
> > The answer is either Yes or No.
> >
> > But...if you ask God the same question..
> >
> > His answer would be...
> >
> >
> > "That's a little bit of a hard question to answer."
> >
> > God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
> >
> 
> Why are people required to comply with the "yes or no" constraint, but
> not God?
> 
> Sylvia.


zeros and ones, off and on...yes or no are people concepts.


God exist in both states at the same time.

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#2065023

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-02-24 23:03 +1100
Message-ID<dj5kg2F52qqU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2064967
On 24/02/2016 7:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>
>> On 21/02/2016 10:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> If you ask people
>>> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
>>> You either going to get
>>> a Yes or No answer.
>>>
>>> The answer is either Yes or No.
>>>
>>> But...if you ask God the same question..
>>>
>>> His answer would be...
>>>
>>>
>>> "That's a little bit of a hard question to answer."
>>>
>>> God would say, "It's not that black and white..."
>>>
>>
>> Why are people required to comply with the "yes or no" constraint, but
>> not God?
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
>
> zeros and ones, off and on...yes or no are people concepts.
>
>
> God exist in both states at the same time.
>

That isn't really an answer. If people would reply yes or no anyway, 
then you'll get the same answer with or without the constraint, making 
the constraint redundant.

Essentially, you're proposing to ask people and God different questions, 
and then you're remarking on the anticipated difference in the answers.

Sylvia.

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#2065029

FromHelmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat>
Date2016-02-24 13:12 +0100
Message-ID<tf7rcb9qr646oujfp3ou6peec2rnpjpjm7@4ax.com>
In reply to#2065023
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 23:03:11 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

>On 24/02/2016 7:04 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21/02/2016 10:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> If you ask people
>>>> "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
>>>> You either going to get
>>>> a Yes or No answer.
>>>>
>>>> The answer is either Yes or No.
>>>>
>>>> But...if you ask God the same question..
>>>>
>>>> His answer would be...
>>>>

YES.
I am here.
Why do you ask, my son?

w.

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#2065043 — Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug.

Fromdefault <default@defaulter.net>
Date2016-02-24 08:32 -0500
SubjectRe: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug.
Message-ID<84crcbhq6sh2rc0va2c18bm1qj8aq2ee0c@4ax.com>
In reply to#2065023
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 04:31:01 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:

>  
>Mr. Starmaker wrote: 
>> > > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?" 
>> >  
>> > God exist in both states at the same time. 
>
>Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug; 
>a painkiller/aphrodisiac. 
>
>Schrödinger doesn't know if his cat is dead or alive; 
>his ignorance doesn't, can't, alter reality. 
>
>Ignorance is not a spatial dimension, 
>as string theory would have you believe. 
>
>Hallucinations are just that, hallucinations, 
>not "alternate realities/universes", 
>as pop science would have you believe. 
>  Mr. Starmaker wrote: > > > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?" > > > > God exist in both states at the same time. Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug; a painkiller/aphrodisiac. Schrödinger doesn't know if his cat is dead or alive; his ignorance doesn't, can't, alter reality. Ignorance is not a spatial dimension, as string theory would have you believe. Hallucinations are just that, hallucinations, not "alternate realities/universes", as pop science would have you believe. 

Hardly "cheap."  Untold suffering, wars, denial, mental retardation,
abused children, misappropriated funding, etc. etc.

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#2069058 — Re: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug.

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-03-03 11:30 +1100
SubjectRe: Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug.
Message-ID<djpes9F8dflU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2065023
On 24/02/2016 11:31 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>
>     Mr. Starmaker wrote:
>     > > > > "Is there a God, Yes or No?"
>     > >
>     > > God exist in both states at the same time.
>
>     Chritianity's benevolent God is a cheap drug;
>     a painkiller/aphrodisiac.
>
>     Schrödinger doesn't know if his cat is dead or alive;
>     his ignorance doesn't, can't, alter reality.
>
>     Ignorance is not a spatial dimension,
>     as string theory would have you believe.
>
>     Hallucinations are just that, hallucinations,
>     not "alternate realities/universes",
>     as pop science would have you believe.
>
>

You do realise that formatted text in Usenet marks you out as a crank, 
and many people won't go beyond seeing that the text is formatted before 
closing the posting?

Sylvia.

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#2069087 — WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2016-03-02 17:18 -0800
SubjectWikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2{5.18P.Seattle.2016}>
In reply to#2069058
You (Sylvia Else) told me (Jeff Relf):
> You do realise that formatted text[?!] in Usenet 
> marks you out as a crank, and many people won't go beyond 
> seeing that the text is formatted before closing the posting?

The HMTL markup I post is just:

   <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>

It's very, very simple.
WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML):

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_markup_language

You might want to look up the word "crank" because
I don't think you're using it correctly.

No matter, feel free to ignore me, my feelings won't be hurt.

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#2069115 — Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).

FromDon Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-02 21:10 -0500
SubjectRe: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).
Message-ID<p67fdblla09k8h3irhvjndmqv18hbksens@4ax.com>
In reply to#2069087
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 17:18:27 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:

>You (Sylvia Else) told me (Jeff Relf):
>> You do realise that formatted text[?!] in Usenet 
>> marks you out as a crank, and many people won't go beyond 
>> seeing that the text is formatted before closing the posting?
>
>The HMTL markup I post is just:
>
>   <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
>
>It's very, very simple.
>WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML):

Neither one is Usenet, though.

 
-- 
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
          Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

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#2069147 — Re: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).

FromChrysi Cat <chrysicat@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-02 20:18 -0700
SubjectRe: WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).
Message-ID<Y1OBy.43052$Io5.16941@fx12.iad>
In reply to#2069087
On 3/2/2016 6:18 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

<snip>

>
> It's very, very simple.
> WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML):
>

Neither of which are _Usenet_.

Usenet is mainly consumed by people who still use ASCII-only newsreaders 
(personally, my Thunderbird is *capable* of more, but there are people 
in here on PINE!).

Thus, you _do not format anything_.

If you want to use ellipsis, you use three separate periods.

If you want to use an en-dash, you use two separate hyphens.

And you're gonna get plonked by more people than will ever open another 
posting of yours if you don't follow those rules *always*.


-- 
Chrysi Cat
1/2 anthrocat, nearly 1/2 anthrofox, all magical
Transgoddess, quick to anger
Call me Chrysi or call me Kat, I'll respond to either!

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#2069163 — WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2016-03-02 19:54 -0800
SubjectWikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML).
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Mar.2{7.54P.Seattle.2016}>
In reply to#2069147
You (Chrysi Cat) replied (to me):
> > The HMTL markup I post is just:
> > 
> >    <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
> > 
> > It's very, very simple.
> > WikiPedia and CraigsList allow Lightweight Markup Language (LML):
> 
> Neither of which are _Usenet_.
> 
> Usenet is mainly consumed by people who still use ASCII-only newsreaders 
> (personally, my Thunderbird is *capable* of more, but there are people 
> in here on PINE!).

Usenet allows for it, same as email, to wit, my:

  "Content-Type: text/html".

You want something else ?  Go fuck yourself, I don't care.

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