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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:05 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:08 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:52 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 06:08 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 10:25 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:25 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-03 18:16 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 03:58 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:33 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-03 17:29 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:48 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:14 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:52 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:58 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:35 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:08 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:09 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 08:42 -0400
                        For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:12 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:21 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:53 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 11:06 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:50 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:17 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:30 +0200
                      Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:02 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:37 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-04 03:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:55 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:47 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:53 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-06 20:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:12 +0200
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 06:53 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:02 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:01 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:54 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:52 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:27 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:22 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:54 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-07 18:10 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 18:57 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:30 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 17:07 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-05 22:28 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:54 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:14 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:15 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:03 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:40 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:35 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 21:32 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:34 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:26 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:34 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:59 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:35 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:56 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:52 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 20:01 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:56 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:06 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-04 12:53 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:35 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:03 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:39 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 13:26 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 04:42 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:18 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:04 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:56 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:15 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 19:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 13:39 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 05:58 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:07 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-05 17:46 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:05 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:58 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:45 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:00 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:19 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:20 -0500
                                Earl Weber lies. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 12:04 -0400
                                  Re: Earl Weber lies. Mike Painter <md.painter@outlook.com> - 2015-06-07 12:25 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:48 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:38 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:04 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:21 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:01 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:44 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:00 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-03 17:31 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-03 16:41 -0500

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#1919298 — For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream.

"HVAC" wrote:
> There is no god.

What, then, do you see when you look in the mirror ?  A slave ?

For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream.

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#1919318

On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:42:32 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>
>> And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there
>> is NO God".
>
>
>Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".

Now offer evidence.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#1919358

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message 
news:tql8nat5r8t0n9a7ib9on3eflkobf5iurg@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:42:32 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>
>>> And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there
>>> is NO God".
>>
>>
>>Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".
>
> Now offer evidence.

If there's no smoke, no heat, and no flames, then there isn't a fire. It's 
not sane, reasonable, or logical to believe that there is a fire when 
there's no evidence of one.

Your god is just like all the others, he's said to exist, but there's no 
evidence that he does. A rational mind would form the belief that there is 
no god.

Irrational minds, like yours, will now start making all types of wild claims 
about how their gods are the real ones and that they have evidence.



 

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#1919398

duke wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:42:32 -0400, HVAC<Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> >On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there
>>> >>is NO God".
>> >
>> >
>> >Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".
> Now offer evidence.

It doesn't work that way Duke, otherwise when you say "There is no Zeus" 
you have to offer evidence too.

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#1919428

On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:53:13 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:42:32 -0400, HVAC<Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> >On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there
>>>> >>is NO God".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".
>> Now offer evidence.
>
>It doesn't work that way Duke, otherwise when you say "There is no Zeus" 
>you have to offer evidence too.

Morons like this one imagine that because it's different for him, that
makes it different for everybody else too.

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#1919481

On 6/7/2015 10:38 AM, duke wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2015 08:42:32 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>
>>> And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there
>>> is NO God".
>>
>>
>> Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".
>
> Now offer evidence.


OK. There IS no god.


I have proffered exactly the same amount of evidence as you.
You mad, Duke?


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1919698

"HVAC"  skrev i meddelelsen news:ml1e3i$mhh$2@dont-email.me...
>
> On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
> >
> > And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there
> > is NO God".
>
>
> Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".

As in 'I know', 'I believe' or 'that is the default position, and nothing
has made me change my mind'?

-- 
Malte Runz 

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#1919756

On 6/7/2015 6:17 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
> "HVAC"  skrev i meddelelsen news:ml1e3i$mhh$2@dont-email.me...
>>
>> On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
>> >
>> > And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that
>> "there
>> > is NO God".
>>
>>
>> Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".
>
> As in 'I know', 'I believe' or 'that is the default position, and nothing
> has made me change my mind'?


I don't know... Whatever would make Duke angrier.



-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1919317

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:09:32 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:i896na1aj1em2scdvf8akp2f7eh1j3i9g3@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 03:14:37 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >news:b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" 
>> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >> >news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >(snip)
>> >> >
>> >> >> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO 
>> >> >> God".
>> >> >
>> >> >You're resorting to primitive troll tactics.
>> >>
>> >> No, it's factual.
>> >
>> >The good thing about "factual" is that it is verifiable. So all you have 
>> >to
>> >do is find a quote of somebody saying it.
>>
>> Science professes creation.

>'Science' is not about answering the question 'is/were there a creator or 
>not'. 'Science' has far more important things to do than to falsify ancient 
>myths. 'We can now say, with as close to absolute certainty as one get get, 
>that the Sun is not a sentient god.

Christianity says the same thing.

>And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there is 
>NO God".

Exactly.  Nobody can.  There is no support whatsoever for such a stupid comment.

>> >> >You know damned well, that it
>> >> >is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know I
>> >> >have
>> >> >told you.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I know what it means.  You are stating that there is NO God. ...
>> >Quote me.
>>
>> You're either an atheist (impossible) or an agnostic (likely).

>Again you fail to support your claims with facts. Boy, you suck at this 
>game.

Done.


the dukester, American-American

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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1919606

"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:oml8nal85oqv24gg4enf2g234goggcsiq0@4ax.com...
>
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:09:32 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
> wrote:
>
> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:i896na1aj1em2scdvf8akp2f7eh1j3i9g3@4ax.com...

(snip)

> >> Science professes creation.
>
> >'Science' is not about answering the question 'is/were there a creator or
> >not'. 'Science' has far more important things to do than to falsify 
> >ancient
> >myths. 'We can now say, with as close to absolute certainty as one get 
> >get,
> >that the Sun is not a sentient god.
>
> Christianity says the same thing.

Christianity is collateral damage in man's quest for knowledge. Nothing 
personal, but your kind is a dying breed.

>
> >And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there 
> >is
> >NO God".
>
> Exactly. ...

Wouldn't you expect to find at least one, after you have asserted that "it's 
factual" that atheism is the declaration that "there is NO God"?


> ... Nobody can.  There is no support whatsoever for such a stupid comment.

At least it can be falsified, and that makes it a legitimate, defensible 
point of view.


> >> >> >You know damned well, that it
> >> >> >is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know 
> >> >> >I
> >> >> >have
> >> >> >told you.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, I know what it means.  You are stating that there is NO God. 
> >> >> ...
> >> >Quote me.
> >>
> >> You're either an atheist (impossible) or an agnostic (likely).
>
> >Again you fail to support your claims with facts. Boy, you suck at this
> >game.
>
> Done.

Ah, that's why you have fork stuck in you.



-- 
Malte Runz 

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#1919334 — Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God".

"Malte Runz" wrote:
> you can not find anybody who has declared that "there is NO God".

Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God".

Virtually, anything that consumes "exergy" ( energy that can do work )
is "alive".  In reality, the (4D) timescape is static, dead.

Awe of nature/science is my "religion".
God is nature, nothing more, nothing less.

Randomness is ignorance, nothing more, nothing less.
We're programmed to consume exergy (energy that can do work),
generation after generation.

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#1919343

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message 
news:i896na1aj1em2scdvf8akp2f7eh1j3i9g3@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 03:14:37 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
> wrote:
>
>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>> >news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >(snip)
>>> >
>>> >> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>>> >
>>> >You're resorting to primitive troll tactics.
>>>
>>> No, it's factual.
>>
>>The good thing about "factual" is that it is verifiable. So all you have 
>>to
>>do is find a quote of somebody saying it.
>
> Science professes creation.

No it doesn't, liar.

>
>>> >You know damned well, that it
>>> >is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know I
>>> >have
>>> >told you.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know what it means.  You are stating that there is NO God. ...
>>Quote me.
>
> You're either an atheist (impossible) or an agnostic (likely)

You're an idiot who doesn't have a clue what the word atheist means.
 

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#1916595

duke wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>> who are the bad people.
>>
>> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>> alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>
> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".

Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human beings, who 
lack belief in any gods, before priests and parents fill their heads 
with such bullcrap.

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#1916729

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>>> who are the bad people.
>>>
>>> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>>> alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>
>> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".

The proven serial liar knows this isn't true, because we've corrected
him every time he repeated it for a couple of decades now.

If it ever were an honest mistake, it has long since ceased to be one
because Puke is the kind of psychopathic theist who sets out to annoy
those who don't share his beliefs

>Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human beings, who 
>lack belief in any gods, before priests and parents fill their heads 
>with such bullcrap.

It's RCC (and some other denominations') doctrine that everybody
actually believes, they just won't admit it.

So they accept this rather than having the courtesy to grant that we
might actually know what is in our own minds.

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#1917817

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 03:57:23 -0500, Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
>wrote:
>
>>duke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>>>> who are the bad people.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>>>> alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>>
>>> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>
>The proven serial liar knows this isn't true, because we've corrected
>him every time he repeated it for a couple of decades now.

You can't correct truth with lies.  I keep telling you clowns that.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1917815

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>>> who are the bad people.
>>>
>>> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>>> alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>
>> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>
>Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human beings, who 
>lack belief in any gods, before priests and parents fill their heads 
>with such bullcrap.

The village idiot dreams.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1918074

On 06/05/2015 01:54 PM, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >duke wrote:
>>> >>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>> >>
>>>> >>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> >>>>You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>>>> >>>>who are the bad people.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>>>> >>>alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>> >>
>>> >>The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>> >
>> >Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human beings, who
>> >lack belief in any gods, before priests and parents fill their heads
>> >with such bullcrap.
> The village idiot dreams.

Next time you visit a maternity ward, just feel the evil coming off all 
those atheist infants in the creche.

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#1918665

On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:47:37 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/05/2015 01:54 PM, duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >duke wrote:
>>>> >>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>>>>> >>>>who are the bad people.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>>>>> >>>alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>>> >
>>> >Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human beings, who
>>> >lack belief in any gods, before priests and parents fill their heads
>>> >with such bullcrap.
>> The village idiot dreams.
>
>Next time you visit a maternity ward, just feel the evil coming off all 
>those atheist infants in the creche.

Atheism is a decision.  Babies are too young to make meaningful decisions.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1918800

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:47:37 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> 
>>On 06/05/2015 01:54 PM, duke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:37:23 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> >duke wrote:
>>>>> >>On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net> 
>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>>You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's
>>>>>>> >>>>the authors who are the bad people.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>>>>>> >>>alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO
>>>>> >>God".
>>>> >
>>>> >Atheism is simply reverting to the default state of human beings,
>>>> >who lack belief in any gods, before priests and parents fill their
>>>> >heads with such bullcrap.
>>> The village idiot dreams.
>>
>>Next time you visit a maternity ward, just feel the evil coming off all
>>those atheist infants in the creche.
> 
> Atheism is a decision. 

When did _you_ decide to believe in god?

> Babies are too young to make meaningful decisions.

Do babies believe in a god?

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#1919149

"Smiler"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mkvl06$4mi$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:53:54 -0500, duke wrote:

(snip)

> > Atheism is a decision.
>
> When did _you_ decide to believe in god?

Show me a person, who says he can decide to believe in something, and I'll 
show you a person who is faking it.

(snip)

-- 
Malte Runz 

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