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Ask an Atheist

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First post2017-09-02 12:12 -0700
Last post2017-09-20 07:09 -0700
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  Ask an Atheist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-02 12:12 -0700
    Re: Ask an Atheist Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 12:56 -0700
      Re: Ask an Atheist Kurt Nicklas <kurtnicklas@gmail.com> - 2017-09-02 13:06 -0700
        Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 03:21 -0700
    Re: Ask an Atheist Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-02 13:41 -0700
    Re: Ask an Atheist Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-02 15:03 -0700
      Re: Ask an Atheist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-02 22:55 -0700
        Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 01:12 -0700
          Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-20 07:31 -0500
            Re: Ask an Atheist Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2017-09-20 07:07 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 04:05 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-22 07:11 -0700
                Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-23 12:03 -0500
                  Re: Ask an Atheist Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net> - 2017-09-23 12:13 -0500
                    Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-24 14:19 -0500
                      Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:04 -0700
                      Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-25 00:47 -0700
                  Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:45 -0700
                    Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-24 14:19 -0500
                      Re: Ask an Atheist "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 12:28 -0700
                      Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:05 -0700
                      Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-25 01:14 -0700
                    Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-24 14:21 -0500
            Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 08:14 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist TheRealMccoy <drlmccoymd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 08:15 -0700
                Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 10:05 -0700
                  Re: Ask an Atheist TheRealMccoy <princmichael77@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 10:14 -0700
                    Re: Ask an Atheist Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2017-09-21 00:32 +0000
                    Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 20:15 -0700
                      Re: Ask an Atheist TheRealMccoy <drlmccoymd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 08:28 -0700
                  Re: Ask an Atheist "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-21 13:10 -0700
                  Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-22 07:16 -0700
                    Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-23 12:07 -0500
                      Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:49 -0700
                        Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-24 14:25 -0500
                          Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:11 -0700
                            Re: Ask an Atheist Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2017-09-26 13:12 -0700
                              Re: Ask an Atheist "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-09-26 16:38 -0400
                                Re: Ask an Atheist Atlatl Axolotl <atlatltheaxolotl@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 13:58 -0700
                                Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:00 -0700
                                  Re: Ask an Atheist "Andrew" <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> - 2017-09-26 22:43 -0400
                      Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-24 23:48 -0700
                        Re: Ask an Atheist MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 23:56 -0700
                        Re: Ask an Atheist MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 12:37 -0700
                      Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-24 23:58 -0700
                  Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:37 -0700
                    Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-23 12:18 -0500
              Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-22 07:13 -0700
                Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-23 12:19 -0500
                  Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-25 00:31 -0700
          Re: Ask an Atheist Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 18:12 -0400
            Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 20:29 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-09-21 18:36 -0400
    Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 03:19 -0700
    Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 05:18 -0700
      Re: Ask an Atheist TheRealMccoy <drlmccoymd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 11:26 -0700
      Re: Ask an Atheist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-03 13:29 -0700
        Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 19:58 -0700
        Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-03 20:37 -0700
    Re: Ask an Atheist Irreverend Dave <reverend_dave@ministerpants.com> - 2017-09-03 19:05 +0000
    Re: Ask an Atheist Gronk <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-09-18 15:13 -0600
      Re: Ask an Atheist The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-09-20 00:59 -0700
        Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 01:35 -0700
          Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-20 07:34 -0500
            Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 09:55 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 18:12 -0400
                Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:21 -0700
                  Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-23 12:21 -0500
                    Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 12:52 -0700
                      Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-24 14:27 -0500
                        Re: Ask an Atheist "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-24 13:48 -0700
                        Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 19:12 -0700
                    Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 17:59 -0700
                    Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-25 00:33 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-22 14:02 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-22 15:17 -0700
                Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-23 12:24 -0500
                  Re: Ask an Atheist "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2017-09-23 10:33 -0700
        Re: Ask an Atheist Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 01:53 -0700
        Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 18:06 -0700
          Re: Ask an Atheist TheRealMccoy <drlmccoymd@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 18:07 -0700
            Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 19:54 -0700
            Re: Ask an Atheist hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2017-09-20 21:06 -0700
            Re: Ask an Atheist Yap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com> - 2017-09-20 23:58 -0700
              Re: Ask an Atheist Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2017-09-21 00:16 -0700
    Re: Ask an Atheist Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2017-09-20 05:15 -0700
      Re: Ask an Atheist duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2017-09-20 07:36 -0500
        Re: Ask an Atheist Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2017-09-20 07:09 -0700

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#2359678 — Ask an Atheist

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-09-02 12:12 -0700
SubjectAsk an Atheist
Message-ID<59AB02BA.52DF@ix.netcom.com>
Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"

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#2359711

FromRick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 12:56 -0700
Message-ID<9aa221d7-898d-413b-a01a-1fdcc1c80534@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2359678
The Starmaker wrote:
> Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"

The question is absurd.

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#2359719

FromKurt Nicklas <kurtnicklas@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 13:06 -0700
Message-ID<33fc31b3-0f92-4d71-a52a-dd07079d9955@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2359711
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 3:56:24 PM UTC-4, Rick Johnson wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> 
> The question is absurd.

An appropriate answer because to an atheist the world itself is absurd.

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#2360012

FromYap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-03 03:21 -0700
Message-ID<10666f2c-ac16-4ccc-8732-ddac2a2fe849@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2359719
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 4:06:50 AM UTC+8, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 3:56:24 PM UTC-4, Rick Johnson wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> > 
> > The question is absurd.
> 
> An appropriate answer because to an atheist the world itself is absurd.

Oh, you never think for a second that the con scripture is the most stupidest story in this whole world???????

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#2359745

FromSiri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2017-09-02 13:41 -0700
Message-ID<chine.bleu-4BA077.13412302092017@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#2359678
In article <59AB02BA.52DF@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"

More alien pod people?

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.    @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'                                    /|\
Free the Amos Yee one.                            This post         / \
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.   insults Islam.  Mohammed

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#2359813

FromDavej <galt_57@hotmail.com>
Date2017-09-02 15:03 -0700
Message-ID<bc3b479c-05f1-42d6-bd32-afed95bcaf9f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2359678
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"

How about a world where people work together to improve 
the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that 
an imaginary magic being is running everything like a 
secret gangster?

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#2359975

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2017-09-02 22:55 -0700
Message-ID<59AB9963.387D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2359813
Davej wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> 
> How about a world where people work together to improve
> the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> secret gangster?


pretending????

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#2366894

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2017-09-20 01:12 -0700
Message-ID<68afa654-b105-4c14-95d4-d9f24c280d31@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2359975
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> Davej wrote:
> > 
> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> > 
> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> > secret gangster?
> 
> 
> pretending????

Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
just called his god a secret gangster.

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#2366943

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2017-09-20 07:31 -0500
Message-ID<vqn4scdaj4g42be1rrcbjqghht04bgu4o2@4ax.com>
In reply to#2366894
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Davej wrote:
>> > 
>> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
>> > 
>> > How about a world where people work together to improve
>> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
>> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
>> > secret gangster?
>> 
>> 
>> pretending????
>
>Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
>Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
>just called his god a secret gangster.

Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
you're going to own the free world?

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar. 

G.K. Chesterton 
*****

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#2366974

FromMalcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com>
Date2017-09-20 07:07 -0700
Message-ID<44b59240-9d32-4500-9d15-c7519149e568@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2366943
On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> Davej wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> >> > 
> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> >> > secret gangster?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> pretending????
> >
> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
> >Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
> >just called his god a secret gangster.
> 
> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
> you're going to own the free world?
> 

As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot lower than it was in the Age of Religion.

Read "Better Angles" for some stats.

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#2367773

FromYap Honghor <hhyapster@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-22 04:05 -0700
Message-ID<2ca5b37c-ad4f-4231-88b7-59920d6e956a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2366974
On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 12:55:23 AM UTC+8, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> Davej wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> >> >> > secret gangster?
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> pretending????
> >> >
> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
> >> >Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
> >> >just called his god a secret gangster.
> >> 
> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
> >> you're going to own the free world?
> 
> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot lower than it was in the Age of Religion.
> 
>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
> 
>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
> -------------------------------
>      Total           162,000,000 

And religious persecution, killing and burning = 400,000,000?
That is more than double of dead from the authoritarian/political regimes (assuming your figure is from your ass)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
> 
> Worse angles are shown above.
> 
> the dukester, American-American
> 
> 
> *****
> The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
> and a good cigar. 
> 
> G.K. Chesterton 
> *****

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#2367833

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2017-09-22 07:11 -0700
Message-ID<9cf7eeaa-6f95-4d7b-ab71-b00b715f152d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2366974
On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> Davej wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> >> >> > secret gangster?
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> pretending????
> >> >
> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
> >> >Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
> >> >just called his god a secret gangster.
> >> 
> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
> >> you're going to own the free world?
> 
> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot lower than it was in the Age of Religion.
> 
>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
> 
>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
> -------------------------------
>      Total           162,000,000 
> 
> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
> 
> Worse angles are shown above.


We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the information
we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.

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#2368264

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2017-09-23 12:03 -0500
Message-ID<cq4dsc1o491jc8bhsdvv7v3lp5s5elctie@4ax.com>
In reply to#2367833
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
>> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >> Davej wrote:
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
>> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
>> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
>> >> >> > secret gangster?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> pretending????
>> >> >
>> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
>> >> >Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
>> >> >just called his god a secret gangster.
>> >> 
>> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
>> >> you're going to own the free world?
>> 
>> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot lower than it was in the Age of Religion.
>> 
>>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
>> 
>>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
>>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
>>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
>>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
>>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
>>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
>>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
>>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
>>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
>> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
>> -------------------------------
>>      Total           162,000,000 
>> 
>> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
>> 
>> Worse angles are shown above.

>We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the information
>we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.

The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully directed at
getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's inhumanity to man".

the dukester, American-American


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and a good cigar. 

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#2368275

FromMitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net>
Date2017-09-23 12:13 -0500
Message-ID<XnsA7F97C8DC6638noemailattnet@216.166.97.131>
In reply to#2368264
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:cq4dsc1o491jc8bhsdvv7v3lp5s5elctie@4ax.com: 

> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>>On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
>>> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>>> >> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >> 
>>> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker
>>> >> >wrote: 
>>> >> >> Davej wrote:
>>> >> >> > 
>>> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The
>>> >> >> > Starmaker wrote: 
>>> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
>>> >> >> > 
>>> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
>>> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
>>> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
>>> >> >> > secret gangster?
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> >> 
>>> >> >> pretending????
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world -
>>> >> >religion. Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even
>>> >> >realize that he just called his god a secret gangster.
>>> >> 
>>> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you
>>> >> atheists profess you're going to own the free world?
>>> 
>>> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot
>>> >lower than it was in the Age of Religion. 
>>> 
>>>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
>>> 
>>>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
>>>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
>>>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
>>>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
>>>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
>>>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
>>>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
>>>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
>>>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
>>> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
>>> -------------------------------
>>>      Total           162,000,000 
>>> 
>>> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
>>> 
>>> Worse angles are shown above.
> 
>>We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the
>>information we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.
> 
> The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully
> directed at getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's
> inhumanity to man". 


    Doesn't religion REQUIRE "inhumanity to man"?

    At least yours does............





Exodus 32:27-29 The Israelites slay 3000 men.

Numbers 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.

Numbers 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people.

Numbers 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord.

Numbers 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. 
Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.

Deuteronomy 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and 
children of Sihon.

Deuteronomy 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and 
children of Og.

Joshua 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people 
of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped.

Joshua 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the 
Gibeonites.

Joshua 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people 
of Makkedah.

Joshua 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the 
Libnahites.

Joshua 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the 
people of Lachish.

Joshua 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the 
Eglonites.

Joshua 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the 
Hebronites.

Joshua 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the 
Debirites.

Joshua 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.

Judges 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at 
Bezek.

Judges 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroy 
the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath.

Judges 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.

Judges 3:31 Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an oxgoad.

Judges 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it through the head of 
Sisera, fastening it to the ground (later he nailed his wife's head to a 
coffee table).

Judges 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of Penuel.

Judges 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a man and causes him to 
slay thirty men.

Judges 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass.

Judges 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars 
of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other 
men and women.

Judges 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting people of Laish.

Judges 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of valor" from amongst 
the Benjamites, "men and beasts and all that they found," and set their 
towns on fire.

1 Samuel 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot soldiers.

1 Samuel 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the Philistines.

1 Samuel 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his men cut down the 
Ammonites.

1 Samuel 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the Philistines.

1 Samuel 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.

1 Samuel 18:7 The women sing as they make merry: "Saul has slain his 
thousands and David his ten thousands."

1 Samuel 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman alive ....". (Note: 
This implies that children and infants were included in the slaughter.)

1 Samuel 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.

2 Samuel 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.

2 Samuel 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of salt and made 
the rest slaves.

2 Samuel 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.

2 Samuel 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he can marry Uriah's 
wife, Bathsheba.

2 Samuel 12:1, 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead for the sin that 
David has committed.

2 Samuel 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the battle in the forest 
of Ephraim.

2 Samuel 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel that kills 70,000 
men.

2 Kings 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and consumes fifty men.

2 Kings 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed, presumably 
according to the will of God, for having jeered at a man of God.

2 Kings 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with 
leprosy.

2 Kings 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded, then sends the heads 
to their father.

2 Kings 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.

2 Kings 14:5, 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then 10,000 Edomites.

2 Kings 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women who were pregnant.

2 Kings 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.

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#2368765

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2017-09-24 14:19 -0500
Message-ID<061gsc1o927v71cdem68389jftmkkbhj86@4ax.com>
In reply to#2368275
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:13:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net>
wrote:

>duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
>news:cq4dsc1o491jc8bhsdvv7v3lp5s5elctie@4ax.com: 
>
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
>>>> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
>>>> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>>>> >> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker
>>>> >> >wrote: 
>>>> >> >> Davej wrote:
>>>> >> >> > 
>>>> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The
>>>> >> >> > Starmaker wrote: 
>>>> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
>>>> >> >> > 
>>>> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
>>>> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
>>>> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
>>>> >> >> > secret gangster?
>>>> >> >> 
>>>> >> >> 
>>>> >> >> pretending????
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world -
>>>> >> >religion. Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even
>>>> >> >realize that he just called his god a secret gangster.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you
>>>> >> atheists profess you're going to own the free world?
>>>> 
>>>> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot
>>>> >lower than it was in the Age of Religion. 
>>>> 
>>>>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
>>>> 
>>>>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
>>>>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
>>>>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
>>>>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
>>>>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
>>>>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
>>>>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
>>>>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
>>>>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
>>>> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
>>>> -------------------------------
>>>>      Total           162,000,000 
>>>> 
>>>> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
>>>> 
>>>> Worse angles are shown above.
>> 
>>>We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the
>>>information we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.
>> 
>> The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully
>> directed at getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's
>> inhumanity to man". 

>    Doesn't religion REQUIRE "inhumanity to man"?

Just the opposite.  We are called to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

>    At least yours does............

You're clueless.

>Exodus 32:27-29 The Israelites slay 3000 men.

Maybe it was self defense.

>Numbers 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.

3000 people died in the fires on 911.


the dukester, American-American


*****
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and a good cigar. 

G.K. Chesterton 
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#2368926

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-24 19:04 -0700
Message-ID<724f67c5-b44e-4f8b-b8af-82a007c485b8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2368765
On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 12:19:13 PM UTC-7, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:13:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:cq4dsc1o491jc8bhsdvv7v3lp5s5elctie@4ax.com: 
> >
> >> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> >> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
> >>>> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> >>>> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> >>>> >> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> >> 
> >>>> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker
> >>>> >> >wrote: 
> >>>> >> >> Davej wrote:
> >>>> >> >> > 
> >>>> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The
> >>>> >> >> > Starmaker wrote: 
> >>>> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> >>>> >> >> > 
> >>>> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> >>>> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> >>>> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> >>>> >> >> > secret gangster?
> >>>> >> >> 
> >>>> >> >> 
> >>>> >> >> pretending????
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world -
> >>>> >> >religion. Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even
> >>>> >> >realize that he just called his god a secret gangster.
> >>>> >> 
> >>>> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you
> >>>> >> atheists profess you're going to own the free world?
> >>>> 
> >>>> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot
> >>>> >lower than it was in the Age of Religion. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
> >>>> 
> >>>>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
> >>>>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
> >>>>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
> >>>>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
> >>>>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
> >>>>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
> >>>>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
> >>>>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
> >>>>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
> >>>> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
> >>>> -------------------------------
> >>>>      Total           162,000,000 
> >>>> 
> >>>> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Worse angles are shown above.
> >> 
> >>>We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the
> >>>information we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.
> >> 
> >> The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully
> >> directed at getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's
> >> inhumanity to man". 
> 
> >    Doesn't religion REQUIRE "inhumanity to man"?
> 
> Just the opposite.  We are called to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
> 

You must hate yourself based on how you treat people here.


> >    At least yours does............
> 
> You're clueless.
> 
> >Exodus 32:27-29 The Israelites slay 3000 men.
> 
> Maybe it was self defense.
> 

Where's that certainty you so often display whe n you're wrong?

> >Numbers 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.
> 
> 3000 people died in the fires on 911.
> 
But nobody claims god did it.
> 
> the dukester, American-American
> 
> 
> *****
> The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
> and a good cigar. 
> 
> G.K. Chesterton 
> *****

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#2368993

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2017-09-25 00:47 -0700
Message-ID<babbb131-623d-42c7-afe3-5001e888b0ee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2368765
On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 3:19:13 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:13:34 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@verizont.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
> >news:cq4dsc1o491jc8bhsdvv7v3lp5s5elctie@4ax.com: 
> >
> >> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> >> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
> >>>> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> >>>> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> >>>> >> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>> >> 
> >>>> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker
> >>>> >> >wrote: 
> >>>> >> >> Davej wrote:
> >>>> >> >> > 
> >>>> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The
> >>>> >> >> > Starmaker wrote: 
> >>>> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> >>>> >> >> > 
> >>>> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> >>>> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> >>>> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> >>>> >> >> > secret gangster?
> >>>> >> >> 
> >>>> >> >> 
> >>>> >> >> pretending????
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world -
> >>>> >> >religion. Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even
> >>>> >> >realize that he just called his god a secret gangster.
> >>>> >> 
> >>>> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you
> >>>> >> atheists profess you're going to own the free world?
> >>>> 
> >>>> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot
> >>>> >lower than it was in the Age of Religion. 
> >>>> 
> >>>>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
> >>>> 
> >>>>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
> >>>>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
> >>>>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
> >>>>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
> >>>>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
> >>>>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
> >>>>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
> >>>>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
> >>>>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
> >>>> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
> >>>> -------------------------------
> >>>>      Total           162,000,000 
> >>>> 
> >>>> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Worse angles are shown above.
> >> 
> >>>We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the
> >>>information we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.
> >> 
> >> The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully
> >> directed at getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's
> >> inhumanity to man". 
> 
> >    Doesn't religion REQUIRE "inhumanity to man"?
> 
> Just the opposite.  We are called to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
> 
> >    At least yours does............
> 
> You're clueless.
> 
> >Exodus 32:27-29 The Israelites slay 3000 men.
> 
> Maybe it was self defense.

Maybe it wasn't. It never happened.
> 
> >Numbers 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men.
> 
> 3000 people died in the fires on 911.

You dare to compare 3,000 people who were murdered by terrorists to a myth?
You are a very sick man.

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#2368385

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2017-09-23 12:45 -0700
Message-ID<5a731752-65ce-42ed-b0ab-b8d71afee4dc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2368264
On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 10:03:20 AM UTC-7, duke wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
> >> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> >> Davej wrote:
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> >> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> >> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> >> >> >> > secret gangster?
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> pretending????
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
> >> >> >Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
> >> >> >just called his god a secret gangster.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
> >> >> you're going to own the free world?
> >> 
> >> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot lower than it was in the Age of Religion.
> >> 
> >>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
> >> 
> >>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
> >>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
> >>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
> >>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
> >>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
> >>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
> >>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
> >>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
> >>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
> >> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
> >> -------------------------------
> >>      Total           162,000,000 
> >> 
> >> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
> >> 
> >> Worse angles are shown above.
> 
> >We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the information
> >we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.
> 
> The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully directed at
> getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's inhumanity to man".
> 

Religion fuels it, it does nothing to stop it.  It just changes the targets.


> the dukester, American-Idiot
> 
> *****
> The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
> and a good cigar. 
> 
> G.K. Chesterton 
> *****

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#2368766

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2017-09-24 14:19 -0500
Message-ID<i91gsclgk1r82c9esvg9hdas5hkmd105b2@4ax.com>
In reply to#2368385
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:45:30 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
<youngblood2949@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 10:03:20 AM UTC-7, duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
>> >> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >> >> Davej wrote:
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
>> >> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
>> >> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
>> >> >> >> > secret gangster?
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> pretending????
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
>> >> >> >Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
>> >> >> >just called his god a secret gangster.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
>> >> >> you're going to own the free world?
>> >> 
>> >> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot lower than it was in the Age of Religion.
>> >> 
>> >>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
>> >> 
>> >>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
>> >>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
>> >>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
>> >>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
>> >>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
>> >>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
>> >>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
>> >>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
>> >>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
>> >> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
>> >> -------------------------------
>> >>      Total           162,000,000 
>> >> 
>> >> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
>> >> 
>> >> Worse angles are shown above.
>> 
>> >We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the information
>> >we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.
>> 
>> The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully directed at
>> getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's inhumanity to man".
>> 
>
>Religion fuels it, it does nothing to stop it.  It just changes the targets.

No can be.  God mandates we love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

the dukester, American-American


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#2368771

From"Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com>
Date2017-09-24 12:28 -0700
Message-ID<531a904f-2e6c-48c0-a586-e33191128535@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2368766
On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 3:19:50 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:45:30 -0700 (PDT), Cloud Hobbit
> <youngblood2949@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 10:03:20 AM UTC-7, duke wrote:
> >> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 07:11:34 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:07:40 -0700 (PDT), Malcolm McMahon
> >> >> <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> >On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 13:31:42 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:12:20 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 1:55:29 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Davej wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > Ask an Atheist...."What will make a perfect world?"
> >> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> >> > How about a world where people work together to improve
> >> >> >> >> > the conditions of their lives rather than pretending that
> >> >> >> >> > an imaginary magic being is running everything like a
> >> >> >> >> > secret gangster?
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> pretending????
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Perfect example of why there is so much misery in the world - religion.
> >> >> >> >Better yet, this guy (part of the Borg) doesn't even realize that he
> >> >> >> >just called his god a secret gangster.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Then why is all the crap in the world taking place now that you atheists profess
> >> >> >> you're going to own the free world?
> >> >> 
> >> >> >As a general trend the amount of crap, per living human, is a lot lower than it was in the Age of Religion.
> >> >> 
> >> >>     Dictator         Deaths Caused
> >> >> 
> >> >>  1) Joseph Stalin      43,000,000
> >> >>  2) Mao Zedong       38,000,000+
> >> >>  3) Adolf Hitler          21,000,000
> >> >>  4) Khubilai Khan     19,000,000
> >> >>  5) Hideki Tojo        10,000,000+
> >> >>  6) Chiang Kai-shek  10,000,000
> >> >>  7) Leopold II          10,000,000
> >> >>  8) Genghis Khan     4,000,000
> >> >>  9) Vladimir Lenin     4,000,000
> >> >> 10) Pol Pot              3,000,000
> >> >> -------------------------------
> >> >>      Total           162,000,000 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >Read "Better Angles" for some stats.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Worse angles are shown above.
> >> 
> >> >We've been through this several times, Earl. Our opinions and the information
> >> >we gave several times hasn't changed. Look it up yourself.
> >> 
> >> The "age of religion" is a misnomer.  Religious faith is fully directed at
> >> getting man to throw aside his preference for "man's inhumanity to man".
> >> 
> >
> >Religion fuels it, it does nothing to stop it.  It just changes the targets.
> 
> No can be.  God mandates we love our neighbor as we love ourselves.

So, when do you intend to start, Dork?

PDW

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