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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-09-24 12:01 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-10-03 19:07 -0700 |
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Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-24 12:01 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-24 15:39 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 19:23 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Serigo <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-09-24 22:21 -0500
Re: Jesus rose from the dead djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-09-25 03:36 +0000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 02:45 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 02:43 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:57 +0000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-09-24 18:12 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 19:24 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-24 20:55 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 02:46 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-24 18:14 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 19:25 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-24 20:56 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead "a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-24 19:53 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 16:52 +0000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-25 22:17 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-26 00:32 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead quarke.e2@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 14:17 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 19:07 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:41 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-29 23:58 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 00:45 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-30 20:48 +0000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-30 15:17 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-10-01 00:10 +0000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 19:09 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-09-26 00:03 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-26 12:58 +0000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 19:20 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-09-24 20:05 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 16:53 +0000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead HGW <hw@....> - 2016-09-27 20:27 +1000
Re: Jesus rose from the dead Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 19:22 -0700
Re: Jesus rose from the dead hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-10-03 19:07 -0700
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 19:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <94a555ff-ab42-4843-b916-5f6c1eba2e15@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2175535 |
On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 5:17:27 AM UTC+8, quar...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 12:32:21 AM UTC-7, hhya...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > What we need is this pixie of yours can help human by eliminating diseases > > He removed the MERSA you gave me when i asked him ... Are you sure that you want medicine to be your savor? Sure you pray to a medical doctor?????
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-29 23:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EE091D.36DA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2173485 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Smiler wrote: > > > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 18:14:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > >> > > >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> > Jesus rose from the dead to spread the word to aliens on other > > >> > planets. > > >> > > >> That would be the supposed Jesus for which you have no evidence. > > >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > > > > > Well, I don't know the extent of your knowledge on Jesus..(it doesn't > > > seem much) > > > > My knowledge on that subject is the same as my knowledge on anything else > > that didn't exist. > > > > > Maybe this would help.. > > > > <snip links to beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are > > evidence of any sort> > > What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help others, certaintly not You. > > Maybe this would help.. > > http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/historical-jesus.html > > https://thepiratebay.org/search/ttc%20jesus/0/99/0 > > http://www.thegreatcourses.com/category/science.html?CFM=footer https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=richard+dawkins+jesus+christ
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-29 23:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EE0D1D.512D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2175272 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Smiler wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 18:14:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Jesus rose from the dead to spread the word to aliens on other > > > >> > planets. > > > >> > > > >> That would be the supposed Jesus for which you have no evidence. > > > >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know the extent of your knowledge on Jesus..(it doesn't > > > > seem much) > > > > > > My knowledge on that subject is the same as my knowledge on anything else > > > that didn't exist. > > > > > > > Maybe this would help.. > > > > > > <snip links to beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are > > > evidence of any sort> > > > > What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help others, certaintly not You. > > > > Maybe this would help.. > > > > http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/historical-jesus.html > > > > https://thepiratebay.org/search/ttc%20jesus/0/99/0 > > > > http://www.thegreatcourses.com/category/science.html?CFM=footer > > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=richard+dawkins+jesus+christ http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html Oh, btw, if you go to thepiratebay.org to learn more about Jesus Christ...don't forget The Magnificent Seven is just out.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 00:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3fea055e-485b-454d-a65f-7206a2226fb3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2175275 |
On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 2:57:49 PM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 18:14:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Jesus rose from the dead to spread the word to aliens on other > > > > >> > planets. > > > > >> > > > > >> That would be the supposed Jesus for which you have no evidence. > > > > >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > > > > > > > > > Well, I don't know the extent of your knowledge on Jesus..(it doesn't > > > > > seem much) > > > > > > > > My knowledge on that subject is the same as my knowledge on anything else > > > > that didn't exist. > > > > > > > > > Maybe this would help.. > > > > > > > > <snip links to beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are > > > > evidence of any sort> > > > > > > What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help others, certaintly not You. > > > > > > Maybe this would help.. > > > > > > http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/historical-jesus.html > > > > > > https://thepiratebay.org/search/ttc%20jesus/0/99/0 > > > > > > http://www.thegreatcourses.com/category/science.html?CFM=footer > > > > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=richard+dawkins+jesus+christ > > > http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html > > > Oh, btw, if you go to thepiratebay.org to learn more about Jesus Christ...don't forget The Magnificent Seven is just out. I find superman much more better than your zombie because I can see his action to save lives....
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 20:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nsmj2l$m84$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2173485 |
On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 22:17:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 18:14:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > Smiler wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> > Jesus rose from the dead to spread the word to aliens on other >> >> > planets. >> >> >> >> That would be the supposed Jesus for which you have no evidence. >> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> > >> > Well, I don't know the extent of your knowledge on Jesus..(it doesn't >> > seem much) >> >> My knowledge on that subject is the same as my knowledge on anything >> else that didn't exist. >> >> > Maybe this would help.. >> >> <snip links to beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are >> evidence of any sort> > > What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help > others, certaintly not You. It won't help anyone sane. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 15:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57EEE493.CAE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2175521 |
Smiler wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 22:17:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Smiler wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 18:14:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> > Smiler wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Jesus rose from the dead to spread the word to aliens on other > >> >> > planets. > >> >> > >> >> That would be the supposed Jesus for which you have no evidence. > >> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > >> > > >> > Well, I don't know the extent of your knowledge on Jesus..(it doesn't > >> > seem much) > >> > >> My knowledge on that subject is the same as my knowledge on anything > >> else that didn't exist. > >> > >> > Maybe this would help.. > >> > >> <snip links to beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are > >> evidence of any sort> > > > > What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help > > others, certaintly not You. > > It won't help anyone sane. Do you know anyone...sane??? i bet you got a crazy mom! i like to meet your crazy sister, is she hot? >What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help others, certaintly not You. >Maybe this would help.. >http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/historical-jesus.html >https://thepiratebay.org/search/ttc%20jesus/0/99/0 >http://www.thegreatcourses.com/category/science.html?CFM=footer
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-10-01 00:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nsmutp$16fq$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2175547 |
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:17:55 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: >> >> On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 22:17:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > Smiler wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 18:14:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> > Smiler wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Jesus rose from the dead to spread the word to aliens on other >> >> >> > planets. >> >> >> >> >> >> That would be the supposed Jesus for which you have no evidence. >> >> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> >> > >> >> > Well, I don't know the extent of your knowledge on Jesus..(it >> >> > doesn't seem much) >> >> >> >> My knowledge on that subject is the same as my knowledge on anything >> >> else that didn't exist. >> >> >> >> > Maybe this would help.. >> >> >> >> <snip links to beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are >> >> evidence of any sort> >> > >> > What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will >> > help others, certaintly not You. >> >> It won't help anyone sane. > > Do you know anyone...sane??? Yep. Most of the atheists here are sane. They don't believe in unevidenced super-beings, unlike you. > i bet you got a crazy mom! i like to meet > your crazy sister, is she hot? You lose your bet. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 19:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7e26be80-096c-4a67-99e1-83b25ce6401b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2175547 |
On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 6:17:53 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: > > > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 22:17:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > >> > > >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 18:14:53 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> > Smiler wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:01:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > Jesus rose from the dead to spread the word to aliens on other > > >> >> > planets. > > >> >> > > >> >> That would be the supposed Jesus for which you have no evidence. > > >> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > >> > > > >> > Well, I don't know the extent of your knowledge on Jesus..(it doesn't > > >> > seem much) > > >> > > >> My knowledge on that subject is the same as my knowledge on anything > > >> else that didn't exist. > > >> > > >> > Maybe this would help.. > > >> > > >> <snip links to beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books, none of which are > > >> evidence of any sort> > > > > > > What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help > > > others, certaintly not You. > > > > It won't help anyone sane. > > > Do you know anyone...sane??? i bet you got a crazy mom! i like to meet > your crazy sister, is she hot? What happened to your own sister? After all, Noah family incest supposedly gave rise to you morons, right? > > > > > > >What I meant by "Maybe this would help..", I meant..maybe it will help others, certaintly not You. > > > > >Maybe this would help.. > > > >http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/historical-jesus.html > > > >https://thepiratebay.org/search/ttc%20jesus/0/99/0 > > > >http://www.thegreatcourses.com/category/science.html?CFM=footer
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| From | Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-26 00:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <816f0afa-10a8-4651-adcb-f14f712c21ad@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2173018 |
Any proof he actually existed at any of those links?
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-09-26 12:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nsb61n$ho4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2173520 |
On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 00:03:30 -0700, Cloud Hobbit wrote: > Any proof he actually existed at any of those links? Of course not. The only proof they show is proof of the gullibility of believers. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-09-24 19:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4fd435d9-3d2f-4074-b87e-78f7fa5bc14b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2172926 |
On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 3:01:13 AM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: > Jesus rose > from the dead to > spread the word > to aliens on > other planets. Superman is more real. > > Jesus just goes on > constantly incarnating and > dying on different aliens planets... It has not answer any human prayer, and therefore is not something valuable. > > spreading the word of God > like a good Christian should. Fools are the Christians, with fantasies in their bird brains. > > > Jesus is probably right now > walking on water on some > underground ocean on another planet. And never to come to earth to disturb all human lives.
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| From | Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-24 20:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f30df55e-1730-4811-9c34-3a6919ad6c65@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2172926 |
Gospel of Thomas. The biggest news on the historical Jesus since the Bible, (or maybe regardless), according to academic experts. That's how historians figure it out. The Gospel of Thomas, the Christian Gospels and a few other sources generally considered inferior (true except for James.) Along with understanding the sociology and history of the time.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-09-25 16:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ns8vf7$1aj8$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2173058 |
On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:05:54 -0700, Kurt wrote: > Gospel of Thomas. The biggest news on the historical Jesus since the > Bible, (or maybe regardless), according to academic experts. > > That's how historians figure it out. The Gospel of Thomas, the Christian > Gospels and a few other sources generally considered inferior (true > except for James.) > > Along with understanding the sociology and history of the time. Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | HGW <hw@....> |
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| Date | 2016-09-27 20:27 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <nsdhi7$krf$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2172926 |
On 25/09/16 05:01, The Starmaker wrote: > Jesus rose from the dead ...I wondered what that smell was...
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| From | Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-30 19:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1ad0cacd-50ae-4c56-b543-3ba86d48f5ab@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2172926 |
The zombie act comes from Paul. The disciples, of course, didn't believe in any such thing. And the first Christian Gospel, Mark, (70CE) has no zombie act for the first 5 centuries after the cross. It was added by the Catholic Church, no old copy has it. Most modern bibles leave it out or note that it's probably bogus. Paul had to claim Jesus did a zombie act, because he never met Jesus, other than when he killed him and virtually all his followers. But to pretend to convert, so he could finish them off and destroy their ideas, he had to claim he talked to him after he murdered him. Other than Paul, the zombie thing first shows up in the later Christian Gospels (90CE) Matthew, Luke and John. The original Gospel of Jesus, the Gospel of Thomas, written when he was still alive, doesn't have any zombie act, and no other superstition whatsoever. All these Christian Gospels were published in that background that everyone knew about Thomas already. In the Gospel of John, written/edited 100% to refute the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of the disciples, Thomas is cast as the "doubting Thomas" who, like the Gospel, didn't believe in the zombie act. It was written to show the author of the doubting Gospel of Thomas, admitted he was wrong, discrediting the Gospel. Which, incidentally demonstrates it was called "Thomas" when the disciples were still around to refute he wrote it, when Jesus was still alive. They didn't.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-10-03 19:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3109e3f4-bf2d-4daa-b607-7d12286ad2e9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2175605 |
On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 10:22:24 AM UTC+8, Kurt wrote: > The zombie act comes from Paul. The disciples, of course, didn't believe in any such thing. And the first Christian Gospel, Mark, (70CE) has no zombie act for the first 5 centuries after the cross. It was added by the Catholic Church, no old copy has it. Most modern bibles leave it out or note that it's probably bogus. > > Paul had to claim Jesus did a zombie act, because he never met Jesus, other than when he killed him and virtually all his followers. But to pretend to convert, so he could finish them off and destroy their ideas, he had to claim he talked to him after he murdered him. > > Other than Paul, the zombie thing first shows up in the later Christian Gospels (90CE) Matthew, Luke and John. > > The original Gospel of Jesus, the Gospel of Thomas, written when he was still alive, doesn't have any zombie act, and no other superstition whatsoever. All these Christian Gospels were published in that background that everyone knew about Thomas already. In the Gospel of John, written/edited 100% to refute the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of the disciples, Thomas is cast as the "doubting Thomas" who, like the Gospel, didn't believe in the zombie act. It was written to show the author of the doubting Gospel of Thomas, admitted he was wrong, discrediting the Gospel. > > Which, incidentally demonstrates it was called "Thomas" when the disciples were still around to refute he wrote it, when Jesus was still alive. They didn't. You and your religion are frantically dealing with the whole mess of zombie and pixies...please leave us in peace to work for our future. My suggest is for you to meet your jesus soonest before it disappear again....
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