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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-06-17 00:33 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-06-21 14:06 -0400 |
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FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-17 00:33 -0700
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-17 11:47 +0000
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 08:14 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 05:23 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 08:33 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 05:41 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 09:04 -0400
Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:36 -0500
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 18:26 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 23:17 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 20:42 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-17 23:47 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-17 20:58 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 08:30 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 06:23 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 09:48 -0400
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 12:17 -0700
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:01 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 20:08 -0400
Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-18 18:21 -0600
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-18 20:38 -0400
Re: FAITH Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-18 21:11 -0600
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:03 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:16 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:06 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:53 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:57 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:16 -0700
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 20:24 -0700
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 23:14 -0700
Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-19 08:37 +0100
Re: FAITH hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-19 01:47 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 00:57 -0700
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:04 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 20:02 -0700
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-21 22:07 -0700
Re: FAITH Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:58 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 20:59 -0700
Re: FAITH hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-19 01:40 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 00:50 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:11 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:57 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 04:03 -0400
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 01:03 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 18:03 -0700
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:15 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 03:25 -0400
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:58 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-19 04:05 -0400
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:33 -0700
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:10 -0700
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 23:05 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 16:50 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 16:46 -0700
Re: FAITH Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-17 13:54 -0500
Re: FAITH hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-06-18 03:16 -0700
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-18 13:02 +0000
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-17 19:46 +0000
Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0500
Re: FAITH Mike Duffy <mqduffy001@bell.net> - 2016-06-17 23:28 -0400
Re: FAITH hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-17 05:36 -0700
Re: FAITH bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-17 10:33 -0500
Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-17 17:41 -0500
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-18 02:03 +0000
Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-18 11:10 -0500
Re: FAITH hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-06-18 03:18 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:07 -0700
Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-19 12:29 -0500
Re: FAITH Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-19 12:49 -0500
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-19 23:46 +0000
Re: FAITH Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 07:30 -0700
Re: FAITH Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 09:19 -0700
Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-19 12:30 -0500
Re: FAITH Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 11:45 -0700
Re: FAITH duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-06-21 12:54 -0500
Re: FAITH Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 11:25 -0700
Re: FAITH hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-17 05:34 -0700
Re: FAITH Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 02:54 +0000
Re: FAITH djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-18 03:12 +0000
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 12:51 -0700
Re: FAITH Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:31 -0700
Re: FAITH Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 13:36 -0700
Re: FAITH Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 09:21 -0700
Re: FAITH Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 10:54 -0700
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-20 00:01 +0000
Re: FAITH Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 17:13 -0700
Re: FAITH Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 11:51 -0700
Re: FAITH Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 20:17 -0700
Re: FAITH Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 02:01 -0700
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 07:14 -0700
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-20 19:51 +0000
Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-20 21:59 +0100
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 00:55 +0000
Re: FAITH Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-20 20:26 -0500
Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-21 08:08 +0100
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 11:01 +0000
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 17:53 -0700
Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-21 08:05 +0100
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:51 -0700
Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 10:56 +0100
Re: FAITH WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-06-21 14:10 -0400
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-21 15:09 -0700
Re: FAITH Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-06-21 20:57 -0500
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-21 19:21 -0700
Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 08:09 +0100
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 01:07 -0700
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 11:09 -0700
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-20 19:55 +0000
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-20 18:16 -0700
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-21 11:04 +0000
Re: FAITH Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-21 05:10 -0700
Re: FAITH Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2016-06-21 22:00 -0400
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:56 -0700
Re: FAITH The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-22 00:54 -0700
Re: FAITH Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-06-22 10:58 +0100
Re: FAITH Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-06-22 12:29 +0000
Re: FAITH WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-06-21 14:06 -0400
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| From | WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 14:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.31d34d15b178070198c1ab@news.east.earthlink.net> |
| In reply to | #2128610 |
In article <5767FA52.2C4@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com says... > They believe or claim there is no God, but they have no evidence to back them up that no Gos exist. Ah, the shifting of the burden of proof, or the "Proving a Negative" logical fallacy. All theists have to do is provide *real* evidence and this would all be over.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 15:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5769BB14.49A3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2129384 |
WangoTango wrote: > > In article <5767FA52.2C4@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com says... > > They believe or claim there is no God, but they have no evidence to back them up that no Gos exist. > > Ah, the shifting of the burden of proof, or the "Proving a Negative" > logical fallacy. > > All theists have to do is provide *real* evidence and this would all be > over. The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or proposition. If the A in atheist means NOT, then yous need to prove your assertion since you made up the Not in A..Atheist.
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| From | Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 20:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA62ED52A9F776noemailattnet@216.166.97.131> |
| In reply to | #2129583 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:5769BB14.49A3@ix.netcom.com: > WangoTango wrote: >> >> In article <5767FA52.2C4@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com >> says... >> > They believe or claim there is no God, but they have no evidence to >> > back them up that no Gos exist. >> >> Ah, the shifting of the burden of proof, or the "Proving a Negative" >> logical fallacy. >> >> All theists have to do is provide *real* evidence and this would all >> be over. > > The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or > proposition. > > If the A in atheist means NOT, then yous need to prove your assertion > since you made up the Not in A..Atheist. > If you assert there is no Santa Claus does that mean you have to prove he isn't real?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 19:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5769F61C.BF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2129673 |
Mitchell Holman wrote: > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote in > news:5769BB14.49A3@ix.netcom.com: > > > WangoTango wrote: > >> > >> In article <5767FA52.2C4@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com > >> says... > >> > They believe or claim there is no God, but they have no evidence to > >> > back them up that no Gos exist. > >> > >> Ah, the shifting of the burden of proof, or the "Proving a Negative" > >> logical fallacy. > >> > >> All theists have to do is provide *real* evidence and this would all > >> be over. > > > > The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or > > proposition. > > > > If the A in atheist means NOT, then yous need to prove your assertion > > since you made up the Not in A..Atheist. > > > > If you assert there is no Santa Claus does > that mean you have to prove he isn't real? well, of course!
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-06-22 08:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <q0ckmbtsjfv1ejde3n21eu02am5ktom5he@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2129583 |
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:09:24 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >WangoTango wrote: >> >> In article <5767FA52.2C4@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com says... >> > They believe or claim there is no God, but they have no evidence to back them up that no Gos exist. >> >> Ah, the shifting of the burden of proof, or the "Proving a Negative" >> logical fallacy. >> >> All theists have to do is provide *real* evidence and this would all be >> over. > > The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or >proposition. Only if the person wishes to persuade others of his assertion. Although you would not be welcome to, you could come here and tell us you were certain there was a god. If you did i would just shrug my shoulders, keep my thoughts about you to myself and move on. If on the other hand you came here demanding that we share your belief, or attack us in some way for not sharing it and did not support your assertion with any evidence I would also just shrug my shoulders, keep my thoughts about you to myself and move on to the next post. > >If the A in atheist means NOT, then yous need to prove your assertion >since you made up the Not in A..Atheist. Check the prefix a- to be found in any good disctionary If you do not like the word 'atheist' then by all means just call us people who are not theist. A theist is a person who believes in the existence of gods. We have no such beliefs Better still just call us 'normal' people. After all we are not born theist, it is character flaw that is usually adopted in adolescence and in my country the practising theists are in a small minority anyway making it an abberant (ie not normal) behavoir Les Hellawell Greeting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-22 01:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <576A475F.F33@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2129583 |
mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: > > W dniu środa, 22 czerwca 2016 00:08:30 UTC+2 użytkownik The Starmaker napisał: > > > The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or > > proposition. > > Really? So, prove the above. The person making a negative claim cannot logically prove nonexistence. To know that a X does not exist would require a perfect knowledge of all things.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-20 11:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5768316F.7706@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2126582 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Faith > > faith > > noun: faith > > 1. > complete trust or confidence in someone or something. > > https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith > > Like for example... > > Science has faith that there is water on Mars. > > Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on Mars. > They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. > > Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in the universe. > > Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. Have they found any Martians yet?
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-06-20 19:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nk9hn3$264$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2128712 |
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Faith >> >> faith >> >> noun: faith >> >> 1. >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith >> >> Like for example... >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on >> Mars. >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in the >> universe. >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. > > Have they found any Martians yet? Why do you want to know? Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-20 18:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5768957E.79DC@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2128771 |
Smiler wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> Faith > >> > >> faith > >> > >> noun: faith > >> > >> 1. > >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. > >> > >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith > >> > >> Like for example... > >> > >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. > >> > >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on > >> Mars. > >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. > >> > >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in the > >> universe. > >> > >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. > > > > Have they found any Martians yet? > > Why do you want to know? > Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars???
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 11:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2128925 |
On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> Faith >> >> >> >> faith >> >> >> >> noun: faith >> >> >> >> 1. >> >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. >> >> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith >> >> >> >> Like for example... >> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. >> >> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on >> >> Mars. >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. >> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in >> >> the universe. >> >> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. >> > >> > Have they found any Martians yet? >> >> Why do you want to know? >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? > > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars??? The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 05:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-4884C4.05103521062016@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #2129104 |
In article <nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Smiler wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> > The Starmaker wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Faith > >> >> > >> >> faith > >> >> > >> >> noun: faith > >> >> > >> >> 1. > >> >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. > >> >> > >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith > >> >> > >> >> Like for example... > >> >> > >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. > >> >> > >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on > >> >> Mars. > >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. > >> >> > >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in > >> >> the universe. > >> >> > >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. > >> > > >> > Have they found any Martians yet? > >> > >> Why do you want to know? > >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? > > > > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars??? To see what's there. What other possible reason could there be? > The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you. -- JD Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a God superior to themselves. Most Gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.
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| From | Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 22:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pqrjmblubf62nbon8iikrau7uuu7mgm1hu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2129187 |
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 05:10:35 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote: >In article <nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >wrote: > >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > Smiler wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Faith >> >> >> >> >> >> faith >> >> >> >> >> >> noun: faith >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. >> >> >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith >> >> >> >> >> >> Like for example... >> >> >> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. >> >> >> >> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on >> >> >> Mars. >> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. >> >> >> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in >> >> >> the universe. >> >> >> >> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. >> >> > >> >> > Have they found any Martians yet? >> >> >> >> Why do you want to know? >> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? >> > >> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars??? > >To see what's there. What other possible reason could there be? Why must there be only one reason? Other possibilities: 1. The voices in your head told you to go. 2. To build a launch platform to go farther. 3. To get what one already knows to be there. 4. Pride ... I was first! 5. George Mallory: Because it's there. 6. To live in 0.38 g because 1.0 g has been soooo done. Ask here if you want more reasons: http://www.marssociety.org/ > > >> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-22 00:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <576A44A5.66FE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2129187 |
Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > In article <nkb70n$ahv$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Smiler wrote: > > >> > > >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Faith > > >> >> > > >> >> faith > > >> >> > > >> >> noun: faith > > >> >> > > >> >> 1. > > >> >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. > > >> >> > > >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith > > >> >> > > >> >> Like for example... > > >> >> > > >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. > > >> >> > > >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on > > >> >> Mars. > > >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. > > >> >> > > >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in > > >> >> the universe. > > >> >> > > >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. > > >> > > > >> > Have they found any Martians yet? > > >> > > >> Why do you want to know? > > >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? > > > > > > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars??? > > To see what's there. What other possible reason could there be? i see rocks. There are no other possible reasons there could be..
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-22 00:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <576A4423.33D9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2129104 |
Smiler wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Smiler wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> > The Starmaker wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Faith > >> >> > >> >> faith > >> >> > >> >> noun: faith > >> >> > >> >> 1. > >> >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. > >> >> > >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith > >> >> > >> >> Like for example... > >> >> > >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. > >> >> > >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on > >> >> Mars. > >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. > >> >> > >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in > >> >> the universe. > >> >> > >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. > >> > > >> > Have they found any Martians yet? > >> > >> Why do you want to know? > >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? > > > > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars??? > > The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you. Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in the ground??? What knowledge can you get from a rock????
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-06-22 10:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <c6okmb5qefid1uj60vgedvh31uc655fq4v@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2129869 |
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:54:11 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Smiler wrote: >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > Smiler wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Faith >> >> >> >> >> >> faith >> >> >> >> >> >> noun: faith >> >> >> >> >> >> 1. >> >> >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith >> >> >> >> >> >> Like for example... >> >> >> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. >> >> >> >> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water on >> >> >> Mars. >> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. >> >> >> >> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere in >> >> >> the universe. >> >> >> >> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. >> >> > >> >> > Have they found any Martians yet? >> >> >> >> Why do you want to know? >> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? >> > >> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars??? >> >> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you. > > >Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in >the ground??? > > >What knowledge can you get from a rock???? Quite a lot as it happens Les Hellawell Greeting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-06-22 12:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nke0bk$ck5$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2129909 |
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 10:58:28 +0100, Les Hellawell wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:54:11 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >>Smiler wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> > Smiler wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:09:51 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > The Starmaker wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Faith >>> >> >> >>> >> >> faith >>> >> >> >>> >> >> noun: faith >>> >> >> >>> >> >> 1. >>> >> >> complete trust or confidence in someone or something. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> https://www.google.com/#q=define+faith >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Like for example... >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Science has faith that there is water on Mars. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Science have a complete trust, they are confident there is water >>> >> >> on Mars. >>> >> >> They just have to keep the faith, and keep looking. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Science has faith that there is Life on other planets somewhere >>> >> >> in the universe. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Science doesn't need evidence, they have ....Faith. >>> >> > >>> >> > Have they found any Martians yet? >>> >> >>> >> Why do you want to know? >>> >> Are you going to Mars to try to convert them? >>> > >>> > What other reasons would they have to want to go to Mars??? >>> >>> The search for knowledge, something quite alien to you. >> >>Well, if i need to search for knowledge, I'm suppose to dig a hole in >>the ground??? >> >>What knowledge can you get from a rock???? > > Quite a lot as it happens Proves my point, knowledge is quite alien to him. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 14:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.31d34c236ed00b98c1aa@news.east.earthlink.net> |
| In reply to | #2126582 |
In article <5763A7C6.1F1C@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com says... > > Faith > > faith > > > noun: faith > > 1. > complete trust or confidence in someone or something. > > > You forgot the religious version. What you posted is the colloquial definition.
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