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  "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-03 23:20 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-04 08:56 +0200
      Re: "God does not play dice." Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 09:32 +0200
        Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 16:53 -0700
          Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-05 04:54 -0700
            Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 04:59 -0700
              Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-05 05:22 -0700
                Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 10:52 -0700
                  Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-05 19:48 -0700
                    Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 19:56 -0700
                      Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-06 00:39 -0700
                        Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 07:59 -0700
                          Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 00:15 -0700
                            Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 00:17 -0700
                              Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-07 09:06 -0400
                                Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 06:25 -0700
                                  Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-07 12:08 -0400
                                    Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:24 -0700
                                      Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 20:56 -0700
                                  Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-07 12:19 -0400
                                    Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:26 -0700
                                      Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-08 05:22 -0400
                                  Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 19:20 -0700
                                    Re: "God does not play dice." "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:36 -0700
                                      Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 20:58 -0700
                                Re: "God does not play dice." Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 09:32 -0500
                                  Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-07 13:15 -0400
                              Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-07 19:13 -0700
      Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 22:33 +0800
        Re: "God does not play dice." Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-04 18:50 +0200
          Re: "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-04 12:27 -0700
            Re: "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-04 23:07 -0700
            Re: "God does not play dice." Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 03:26 -0700
          Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 19:08 +0800
        Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-05 04:46 -0700
      Re: "God does not play dice." djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-04 14:55 +0000
        Re: "God does not play dice." The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-04 10:57 -0700
        Re: "God does not play dice." goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2016-06-04 21:22 +0000
          Re: "God does not play dice." djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2016-06-05 01:22 +0000
        Re: "God does not play dice." "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-06-05 00:34 +0100
        Re: "God does not play dice." Carl Kaufmann <cwkaufmann@cox.net> - 2016-06-04 20:11 -0400
        Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-05 04:50 -0700
      Re: "God does not play dice." He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> - 2016-06-04 08:28 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 09:22 +0200
    Re: "God does not play dice." hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-06-04 03:35 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-04 06:40 -0400
      Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 16:55 -0700
        Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-05 04:59 -0400
        Re: "God does not play dice." Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 02:52 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-06-04 10:15 -0400
      Re: "God does not play dice." Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 14:37 -0400
    Re: "God does not play dice." John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-06-04 07:35 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-04 11:13 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-04 17:00 -0700
      Re: "God does not play dice." Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 03:23 -0700
        Re: "God does not play dice." Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-08 05:39 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 19:08 +0800
      Re: "God does not play dice." "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 23:12 +0800
    Re: "God does not play dice." Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-06-05 10:55 -0700
    Re: "God does not play dice." default <default@defaulter.net> - 2016-06-07 12:05 -0400
    Re: "God does not play dice." Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 02:47 -0700

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#2121773

No, Constantine does NOT speak for Jesus. He lived centuries later and was a thug.

Forum atheists, clueless and I mean totally clueless.


On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 12:19:16 PM UTC-4, default wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
> <passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >Jesus said we are all sons of the Living Father.
> >
> >Constantine tortured people to death, he does not speak for Jesus.
> >
> >On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:06:51 AM UTC-4, default wrote:
> >> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:17:46 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
> >> <passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >Jesus isn't a deity. 
> >> 
> >> Son of god?  That Jesus?  Constantine had him declared legally deity
> >> around 300 CE.
> 
> Huh?  Constantine the one who claimed he saw a cross in the sky and
> thought it was an omen, and made Christianity the religion of the
> empire.. doesn't speak for Jesus?
> 
> Dude, you really need to read some history before you go off.
> 
> (if you did, you might not be a Christian, but them's the breaks)
> 
> Fact is, the more one "knows - mind engaged" about Christianity the
> least likely one is to be a 'Christian' or deist for that matter...

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#2121940

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 19:26:06 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
<passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:

>No, Constantine does NOT speak for Jesus. He lived centuries later and was a thug.

The god of Abraham was a thug.
>
>Forum atheists, clueless and I mean totally clueless.
>
>
>On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 12:19:16 PM UTC-4, default wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
>> <passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Jesus said we are all sons of the Living Father.
>> >
>> >Constantine tortured people to death, he does not speak for Jesus.
>> >
>> >On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:06:51 AM UTC-4, default wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:17:46 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
>> >> <passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >Jesus isn't a deity. 
>> >> 
>> >> Son of god?  That Jesus?  Constantine had him declared legally deity
>> >> around 300 CE.
>> 
>> Huh?  Constantine the one who claimed he saw a cross in the sky and
>> thought it was an omen, and made Christianity the religion of the
>> empire.. doesn't speak for Jesus?
>> 
>> Dude, you really need to read some history before you go off.
>> 
>> (if you did, you might not be a Christian, but them's the breaks)
>> 
>> Fact is, the more one "knows - mind engaged" about Christianity the
>> least likely one is to be a 'Christian' or deist for that matter...

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#2121769

On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:26:02 PM UTC+8, Kurt Kurt wrote:
> Jesus said we are all sons of the Living Father.

Each human has his own father, what Living you are talking about?
> 
> Constantine tortured people to death, he does not speak for Jesus.

US tortured people in Gitmo too, based only on suspicion and not law.....
ISIS tortured people too, based on their own religious fanaticism....
Constantine was a religious fanatic as well....but you should thank him, otherwise you wouldn't have a human deity to worship.
> 
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:06:51 AM UTC-4, default wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:17:46 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
> > <passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >Jesus isn't a deity. 
> > 
> > Son of god?  That Jesus?  Constantine had him declared legally deity
> > around 300 CE.

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#2121776

hhyapster@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:26:02 PM UTC+8, Kurt Kurt wrote:
>> Jesus said we are all sons of the Living Father.
> 
> Each human has his own father, what Living you are talking about?
>> 
>> Constantine tortured people to death, he does not speak for Jesus.
> 
> US tortured people in Gitmo too, based only on suspicion and not
> law..... 
> ISIS tortured people too, based on their own religious fanaticism....
> Constantine was a religious fanatic as well....but you should thank
> him, otherwise you wouldn't have a human deity to worship. 


you torture everybody with the things you say

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#2121828

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 10:36:36 AM UTC+8, % wrote:
> hhyapster@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 9:26:02 PM UTC+8, Kurt Kurt wrote:
> >> Jesus said we are all sons of the Living Father.
> > 
> > Each human has his own father, what Living you are talking about?
> >> 
> >> Constantine tortured people to death, he does not speak for Jesus.
> > 
> > US tortured people in Gitmo too, based only on suspicion and not
> > law..... 
> > ISIS tortured people too, based on their own religious fanaticism....
> > Constantine was a religious fanatic as well....but you should thank
> > him, otherwise you wouldn't have a human deity to worship. 
> 
> 
> you torture everybody with the things you say

I merely help to make it more lethal...religion tortures you brainless idiots, daily.

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#2121448

On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 09:06:44 -0400, default <default@defaulter.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:17:46 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
><passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Jesus isn't a deity. 

So Kunt Kunt isn't trinitarian.

Is he a Jehovah's Witless, Christadelphian  or one of the other even
weirder than loonier than usual sects and cults at the fringes of
Christianity?

>Son of god?  That Jesus?  Constantine had him declared legally deity
>around 300 CE.

When was the combination of Daddy, Sonny and Sacred Spook invented? I
know it was only adopted in 325 at Nicaea, but it  is so weird  that
it must have been around already.

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#2121529

On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 09:32:38 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 09:06:44 -0400, default <default@defaulter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 00:17:46 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Kurt
>><passerby31416@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Jesus isn't a deity. 
>
>So Kunt Kunt isn't trinitarian.
>
>Is he a Jehovah's Witless, Christadelphian  or one of the other even
>weirder than loonier than usual sects and cults at the fringes of
>Christianity?
>
>>Son of god?  That Jesus?  Constantine had him declared legally deity
>>around 300 CE.
>
>When was the combination of Daddy, Sonny and Sacred Spook invented? I
>know it was only adopted in 325 at Nicaea, but it  is so weird  that
>it must have been around already.

Gods never seem to die.  That's where all the fairy tales imbue their
gods with invincibility attributes.

The "Lord God of Abraham"  (that really big Kahuna the others Kowtow
to) is just an amalgam of gods that went before.  But  that was then,
and this is now.  

If you have a favorite religion (today) that promises you won't die,
when in fact, "you die," you just have to say you believe their
bullshit and go on and on about how wonderful it all is.

There is no test of one's "belief."  Presumably, that comes "JUDGMENT
DAY."  Then those idiots that professed to believe (one hopes) will be
cast down into hell.

If there was an actual god, and he had any sense of fairness, and...

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#2121766

On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 3:17:49 PM UTC+8, Kurt Kurt wrote:
> Jesus isn't a deity.

Ya, just a nobody....

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#2119390

On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> I wouldn't be sure.

Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods. Otherwise, they would be 
afraid. :)

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#2119459

Użytkownik "Mr. Man-wai Chang"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
dyskusyjnych:niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me...

On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> I wouldn't be sure.

|Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods.

Explain it to Al-Quaida.

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#2119594

=?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> 
> Użytkownik "Mr. Man-wai Chang"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> dyskusyjnych:niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me...
> 
> On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> >
> > As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> > I wouldn't be sure.
> 
> |Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods.
> 
> Explain it to Al-Quaida.

Explain it to Israel, they invented terroism!

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#2119950

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> >
> > Użytkownik "Mr. Man-wai Chang"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me...
> >
> > On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > >
> > > As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> > > I wouldn't be sure.
> >
> > |Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods.
> >
> > Explain it to Al-Quaida.
> 
> Explain it to Israel, they invented terroism!


And if you don't believe it, ask Einstein.

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#2121957

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 12:27:24 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?Maciej_Wo=C5=BAniak?= wrote:
> > 
> > Użytkownik "Mr. Man-wai Chang"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> > dyskusyjnych:niuorp$qoc$1@dont-email.me...
> > 
> > On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > >
> > > As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> > > I wouldn't be sure.
> > 
> > |Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods.
> > 
> > Explain it to Al-Quaida.
> 
> Explain it to Israel, they invented terroism!

I thought that was us in the revolutionary war.
Or was it the American Indians.
I think the Israelis played by slightly different rules than typical terrorists.

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#2120015

On 5/06/2016 12:50 AM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
>
> Explain it to Al-Quaida.
>

You sure their God was actually a god not a person? :)

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#2120104

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 10:33:31 PM UTC+8, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 4/06/2016 2:56 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> >
> > As he doesn't exist, it's rather obvious. If I believed him,
> > I wouldn't be sure.
> 
> Soldiers and terrorists cannot believe in Gods. Otherwise, they would be 
> afraid. :)

Fucking idiot...there is no bloody stupid proto=pixie in this universe, let alone this earth!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> -- 
>    @~@   Remain silent. Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!
>   / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
> /( _ )\ (Fedora release 23)  Linux 4.4.9-300.fc23.x86_64
>    ^ ^   22:24:01 up 13 days 14:00 0 users load average: 1.01 1.06 1.08
> 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
> http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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#2119404

In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
Maciej Woźniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>
>
>Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
>dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
>
>|"God does not play dice."

I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
do."

But it was Stephen Hawking who later remarked, "God not only
plays dice, but he throws them into a corner where they can't be
seen."

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#2119532

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> 
> In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
> Maciej Woźniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup
> >dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
> >
> >|"God does not play dice."
> 
> I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
> do."
> 
> But it was Stephen Hawking who later remarked, "God not only
> plays dice, but he throws them into a corner where they can't be
> seen."
> 
> --
> Dorothy J. Heydt
> Vallejo, California
> djheydt at gmail dot com



you'd be a fool to play dice in the dark.

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#2119697

In article <o895GF.o6L@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
>Maciej Woźniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
>>dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
>>
>>|"God does not play dice."
>
>I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
>do."

A quick Google search suggests that it was Niels Bohr.

-- 
   David Goldfarb          |"I'm reconsidering my desire to go to college, as
goldfarbdj@gmail.com       | from what I've seen on this group it drives one
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  | immediately and incurably insane."
                           | -- ACM, on rec.arts.comics.xbooks

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#2119841

In article <o89nD6.1J8M@kithrup.com>,
David Goldfarb <goldfarbdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <o895GF.o6L@kithrup.com>,
>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>>In article <nitu2f$jdv$1@node2.news.atman.pl>,
>>Maciej Woźniak  <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Użytkownik "The Starmaker"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
>>>dyskusyjnych:5752731D.47A@ix.netcom.com...
>>>
>>>|"God does not play dice."
>>
>>I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to
>>do."
>
>A quick Google search suggests that it was Niels Bohr.

Ah, thanks.  He was a good man with an aphorism.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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#2119771

"Dorothy J Heydt"  wrote 

>|"God does not play dice."

> I forget who it was who told Einstein, "Stop telling God what to do."

> But it was Stephen Hawking who later remarked, "God not only
plays dice, but he throws them into a corner where they can't be
seen."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_interpretation#Criticism

Bohr, in response, said, "Einstein, don't tell God what to do."[55]


-- 
Mike D

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