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Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No?

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  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-03 23:04 +0000
    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-04 16:00 -0500
      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-05 19:50 +0000
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-07 07:45 -0500
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-07 16:15 +0200
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Jane <Jane@....> - 2016-05-08 06:51 +1000
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:24 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 00:25 -0400
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-08 08:45 -0400
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 23:24 -0400
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-09 18:14 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-05-10 15:47 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:02 -0500
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:01 -0500
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-07 14:39 -0700
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:25 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-07 17:33 -0700
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-07 17:02 +0000
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:02 -0500
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 00:31 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-12 08:22 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 18:50 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-13 17:20 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-14 02:27 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-15 16:05 -0500
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-16 22:14 +0000
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-17 06:38 -0500
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-05-17 07:12 -0500
                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-17 23:21 -0700
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-18 03:30 -0400
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 11:26 -0700
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 12:46 -0700
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:03 -0400
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:22 -0700
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 21:34 -0400
                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 11:59 -0700
                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 17:59 -0400
                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-21 07:41 -0500
                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-21 18:44 -0400
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-22 07:55 -0500
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:34 -0500
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:34 -0500
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-22 17:12 -0400
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-23 15:47 -0500
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-23 22:43 -0400
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-24 14:03 -0500
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-24 15:15 -0400
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-25 15:56 -0500
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-26 04:30 -0400
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-24 18:26 +0000
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-24 14:04 -0500
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-24 15:16 -0400
                                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-25 15:56 -0500
                                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-26 04:31 -0400
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:01 -0400
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:27 -0700
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 21:35 -0400
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 12:00 -0700
                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 18:00 -0400
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-05-18 16:01 -0600
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:29 -0700
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:12 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-05-18 16:08 -0600
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 18:40 -0400
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:33 -0500
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-19 17:34 -0400
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:21 -0500
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 03:45 -0400
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:13 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:05 -0400
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:34 -0500
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 00:59 -0400
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 12:49 -0700
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:06 -0400
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-20 11:57 -0700
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 18:01 -0400
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:35 -0500
                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 01:00 -0400
                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-20 12:15 -0500
                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 18:02 -0400
                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-21 07:42 -0500
                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-21 18:45 -0400
                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-22 07:58 -0500
                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:35 -0500
                                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-22 10:35 -0500
                                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-22 17:14 -0400
                                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-23 15:48 -0500
                                                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-23 22:45 -0400
                                                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-24 14:04 -0500
                                                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-24 15:17 -0400
                                                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-25 15:58 -0500
                                                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-26 04:29 -0400
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-18 15:44 +0000
                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:08 -0500
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:08 -0400
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-18 15:38 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:37 -0500
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:36 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 01:02 -0400
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-05-18 15:57 -0600
                                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:37 -0500
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-17 16:39 +0000
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:21 +0000
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-05-10 12:59 -0700
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:04 -0500
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 00:35 +0000
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-05-14 18:04 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-15 16:14 -0500

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#2111373

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-05-22 10:34 -0500
Message-ID<hck3kb9m3cmscp2l3d7okb814pbuqtn17j@4ax.com>
In reply to#2111289
On Sun, 22 May 2016 07:55:21 -0500, Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>
>>>You refuse to consider it.
>
>LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE.
>
>>There is nothing to consider.
>
>The proven serial liar knows that one can't refuse to consider what he
>has never provided.

Sure I have.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#2111372

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-05-22 10:34 -0500
Message-ID<hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com>
In reply to#2110892
On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>
>>You refuse to consider it.
>There is nothing to consider.

Only if you don't want to look.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#2111590

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-22 17:12 -0400
Message-ID<k584kb5t4j9k8hbhr6io3j164s3una35m8@4ax.com>
In reply to#2111372
On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>
>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>There is nothing to consider.
>
>Only if you don't want to look.
>

There is nothing to see.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2112214

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-05-23 15:47 -0500
Message-ID<02r6kb5gqbkn2qmjp6959jgulmsutj2fdf@4ax.com>
In reply to#2111590
On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>
>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>
>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>
>
>There is nothing to see.

Clearly if you don't look.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#2112416

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-23 22:43 -0400
Message-ID<qsf7kb5a9b3ec966t2k0upjdc99h388242@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112214
On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<02r6kb5gqbkn2qmjp6959jgulmsutj2fdf@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>
>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>
>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>
>>
>>There is nothing to see.
>
>Clearly if you don't look.
>

I could see if anything was there.  It isn't.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2112745

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-05-24 14:03 -0500
Message-ID<cb99kbhrkdl11lb76p83k7m97eglb4l6go@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112416
On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:43:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><02r6kb5gqbkn2qmjp6959jgulmsutj2fdf@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>
>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>
>>>
>>>There is nothing to see.
>>
>>Clearly if you don't look.

>I could see if anything was there.  It isn't.

Clearly you didn't look.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#2112763

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-24 15:15 -0400
Message-ID<m1a9kbpkm4j709749k5loop7nv20adlj27@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112745
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:03:39 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<cb99kbhrkdl11lb76p83k7m97eglb4l6go@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:43:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><02r6kb5gqbkn2qmjp6959jgulmsutj2fdf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>>
>>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is nothing to see.
>>>
>>>Clearly if you don't look.
>
>>I could see if anything was there.  It isn't.
>
>Clearly you didn't look.
>

There is still nothing there.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2113441

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-05-25 15:56 -0500
Message-ID<ea4ckbhdovc0hfucmqp1c7n5u1i0dptm5c@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112763
On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:15:28 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:03:39 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><cb99kbhrkdl11lb76p83k7m97eglb4l6go@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:43:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>><02r6kb5gqbkn2qmjp6959jgulmsutj2fdf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>There is nothing to see.
>>>>
>>>>Clearly if you don't look.
>>
>>>I could see if anything was there.  It isn't.
>>
>>Clearly you didn't look.

>There is still nothing there.

I see God.  Why don't you?

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#2113732

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-26 04:30 -0400
Message-ID<80ddkbl8avntj1651gc7ntt32i1mod4lut@4ax.com>
In reply to#2113441
On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:56:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<ea4ckbhdovc0hfucmqp1c7n5u1i0dptm5c@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:15:28 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:03:39 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><cb99kbhrkdl11lb76p83k7m97eglb4l6go@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:43:17 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><02r6kb5gqbkn2qmjp6959jgulmsutj2fdf@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There is nothing to see.
>>>>>
>>>>>Clearly if you don't look.
>>>
>>>>I could see if anything was there.  It isn't.
>>>
>>>Clearly you didn't look.
>
>>There is still nothing there.
>
>I see God.  Why don't you?
>

I don't accept as being real that which has no supporting evidence.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2112741

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-05-24 18:26 +0000
Message-ID<ni26df$eji$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2112214
On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id <hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>
>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>
>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>
>>>
>>There is nothing to see.
> 
> Clearly if you don't look.

How can we see what is solely in your imagination?

> *****
> "Paedophilia is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI *****





-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2112747

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-05-24 14:04 -0500
Message-ID<mc99kb1svr35bc6lilbikl0gcfb7el06b1@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112741
On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:26:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:

>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> 
>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>alt.atheism with message-id <hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>
>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>There is nothing to see.
>> 
>> Clearly if you don't look.
>
>How can we see what is solely in your imagination?

Check scripture.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#2112765

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-24 15:16 -0400
Message-ID<43a9kb1cbkd5qaqebk3o36pjvcaimmhone@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112747
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:04:01 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<mc99kb1svr35bc6lilbikl0gcfb7el06b1@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:26:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>alt.atheism with message-id <hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>>
>>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>There is nothing to see.
>>> 
>>> Clearly if you don't look.
>>
>>How can we see what is solely in your imagination?
>
>Check scripture.
>

Why refer him to an unverified source?

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2113443

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2016-05-25 15:56 -0500
Message-ID<ob4ckb9jdhbp9340ns835vpr14pvubu6km@4ax.com>
In reply to#2112765
On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:16:15 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:04:01 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><mc99kb1svr35bc6lilbikl0gcfb7el06b1@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:26:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id <hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>There is nothing to see.
>>>> 
>>>> Clearly if you don't look.
>>>
>>>How can we see what is solely in your imagination?
>>
>>Check scripture.
>
>Why refer him to an unverified source?

It's the bible, what else.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#2113734

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-26 04:31 -0400
Message-ID<s1ddkbhadh2alh6qn2niclfo5l1klu7b1k@4ax.com>
In reply to#2113443
On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:56:50 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<ob4ckb9jdhbp9340ns835vpr14pvubu6km@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 15:16:15 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:04:01 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><mc99kb1svr35bc6lilbikl0gcfb7el06b1@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:26:55 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 23 May 2016 15:47:09 -0500, duke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 17:12:36 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>On Sun, 22 May 2016 10:34:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id <hbk3kbtctn8k1qo49dmeml0tii3fe7gc2v@4ax.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 18:44:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 21 May 2016 07:41:25 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in
>>>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>><vql0kb5c4q66qvhdkfdm6d876i20sp4a8g@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You have yet to provide any evidence that any god ever existed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You refuse to consider it.
>>>>>>>>There is nothing to consider.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Only if you don't want to look.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>There is nothing to see.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Clearly if you don't look.
>>>>
>>>>How can we see what is solely in your imagination?
>>>
>>>Check scripture.
>>
>>Why refer him to an unverified source?
>
>It's the bible, what else.
>

As I said, an unverified and therefore useless source.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2108870

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-18 16:01 -0400
Message-ID<4dipjbti3cqh28h17ihdfm3bl80vfdmt4t@4ax.com>
In reply to#2108799
On Wed, 18 May 2016 11:26:31 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<573CB3D7.2DA7@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>benj wrote:
>> 
>> On 05/18/2016 02:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >>
>> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
>> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> If you can't see it, you don't want to.  Without creation, nothing
>> >>> would exist.
>> >>
>> >>        Without a creation your god would not exist.
>> >>
>> >>        Who created your creator?
>> >
>> >
>> > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
>> >
>> >
>> > (all your questions are answered in that one sentence)
>> >
>> >
>> > So, 'In the beginning..'
>> >
>> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+beginning
>> >
>> > 1.
>> > the point in time or space at which something starts.
>> >
>> >
>> > '...God created..'
>> >
>> >
>> > There was no creation before God..so no one created God since creation did not exist before God..
>> > it existed after God..God created the first...create.
>> >
>> > And then you have...'the heavens and the earth.'
>> >
>> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
>> 
>> Starfaker you are babbling and drooling! The whole biblical creation
>> myth like all of the creation myths is an attempt to explain highly
>> advanced technical physics to primitive ignorant humans (even MORE
>> primitive and ignorant than they are today if you can imagine that!)
>> 
>> Hence it used terms that really make no logical sense like saying
>> creation took place in six "days"? Sure you can understand a "day" on
>> earth and what it means but what is a "day" for the universe? Obviously
>> a "day" is trying to explain operations that took place in stages or
>> phases.
>> 
>> Native humans see things in causal form. Hence they want stories about
>> "beginnings" But if there was a beginning what was before that? Was
>> there a God? Defining God as the universe and all in it and the laws
>> that govern it allow you to say the laws might have been there but since
>> we are talking "creation" the universe wasn't and since "God" is the
>> universe then God must have not existed either unless it was there only
>> as laws.
>> 
>> Story is that "God" is outside of time. Therefore "creation" does not
>> apply. Creation applies only to causal phenomena that we are and
>> observe. Hence out efforts to ascribe a "creation" to God is basically
>> nonsense. God is the theater and projectionist (this is something you
>> can understand starfaker) it always existed and exists because they are
>> outside of time. Then just for US the the movie starts and we watch it
>> all take place in linear fashion. But in truth it all already exists
>> wound up in the reels of film on the projector. We just can't see the
>> part that isn't yet in the projector or the things that have already
>> gone through and are wound up on the other reel. But in truth all of our
>> "creation" is just ONE time. WE just cannot comprehend something
>> existing outside of time. So we make up stories.
>
>
>
>It's very simple, you need to undertsand the order of events....
>
>
>it is God created, not created God.

Where is the evidence any god ever existed?

>
>
>
Quote from unverified source removed.

>
>
>
>Maybe you people need to go back to school and learn the Inglish languagge...
>
>
Quote from unverified source removed.
>
>
>Look up the Defintion for the word: "In"
>
>then,
>
>Look up the Defintion for the word: "the"
>
>then
>
>Look up the Defintion for the word: "beginning"
>
>
>then
>
>
>Look up the Defintion for the word: (,)
>
>
>Now, try to understand what the word "In" means...
>
>and "the"
>
>
>and "beginning".

I see nothing about any god in there.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2109054

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-18 17:27 -0700
Message-ID<573D086F.5C0A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2108870
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 18 May 2016 11:26:31 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <573CB3D7.2DA7@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 05/18/2016 02:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
> >> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you can't see it, you don't want to.  Without creation, nothing
> >> >>> would exist.
> >> >>
> >> >>        Without a creation your god would not exist.
> >> >>
> >> >>        Who created your creator?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > (all your questions are answered in that one sentence)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So, 'In the beginning..'
> >> >
> >> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+beginning
> >> >
> >> > 1.
> >> > the point in time or space at which something starts.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > '...God created..'
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > There was no creation before God..so no one created God since creation did not exist before God..
> >> > it existed after God..God created the first...create.
> >> >
> >> > And then you have...'the heavens and the earth.'
> >> >
> >> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
> >>
> >> Starfaker you are babbling and drooling! The whole biblical creation
> >> myth like all of the creation myths is an attempt to explain highly
> >> advanced technical physics to primitive ignorant humans (even MORE
> >> primitive and ignorant than they are today if you can imagine that!)
> >>
> >> Hence it used terms that really make no logical sense like saying
> >> creation took place in six "days"? Sure you can understand a "day" on
> >> earth and what it means but what is a "day" for the universe? Obviously
> >> a "day" is trying to explain operations that took place in stages or
> >> phases.
> >>
> >> Native humans see things in causal form. Hence they want stories about
> >> "beginnings" But if there was a beginning what was before that? Was
> >> there a God? Defining God as the universe and all in it and the laws
> >> that govern it allow you to say the laws might have been there but since
> >> we are talking "creation" the universe wasn't and since "God" is the
> >> universe then God must have not existed either unless it was there only
> >> as laws.
> >>
> >> Story is that "God" is outside of time. Therefore "creation" does not
> >> apply. Creation applies only to causal phenomena that we are and
> >> observe. Hence out efforts to ascribe a "creation" to God is basically
> >> nonsense. God is the theater and projectionist (this is something you
> >> can understand starfaker) it always existed and exists because they are
> >> outside of time. Then just for US the the movie starts and we watch it
> >> all take place in linear fashion. But in truth it all already exists
> >> wound up in the reels of film on the projector. We just can't see the
> >> part that isn't yet in the projector or the things that have already
> >> gone through and are wound up on the other reel. But in truth all of our
> >> "creation" is just ONE time. WE just cannot comprehend something
> >> existing outside of time. So we make up stories.
> >
> >
> >
> >It's very simple, you need to undertsand the order of events....
> >
> >
> >it is God created, not created God.
> 
> Where is the evidence any god ever existed?
> 
> >
> >
> >
> Quote from unverified source removed.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >Maybe you people need to go back to school and learn the Inglish languagge...
> >
> >
> Quote from unverified source removed.
> >
> >
> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "In"
> >
> >then,
> >
> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "the"
> >
> >then
> >
> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "beginning"
> >
> >
> >then
> >
> >
> >Look up the Defintion for the word: (,)
> >
> >
> >Now, try to understand what the word "In" means...
> >
> >and "the"
> >
> >
> >and "beginning".
> 
> I see nothing about any god in there.


'In the beginning, ..." has nothing to do with any god. 


It is about understanding what 'In the beginning, ...'
is...God comes in afterwards.

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#2109083

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-18 21:35 -0400
Message-ID<h16qjb5rv9pv2a9didmdrpalfagc63l5g7@4ax.com>
In reply to#2109054
On Wed, 18 May 2016 17:27:27 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<573D086F.5C0A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 18 May 2016 11:26:31 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <573CB3D7.2DA7@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >benj wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 05/18/2016 02:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
>> >> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If you can't see it, you don't want to.  Without creation, nothing
>> >> >>> would exist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>        Without a creation your god would not exist.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>        Who created your creator?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > (all your questions are answered in that one sentence)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > So, 'In the beginning..'
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+beginning
>> >> >
>> >> > 1.
>> >> > the point in time or space at which something starts.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > '...God created..'
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > There was no creation before God..so no one created God since creation did not exist before God..
>> >> > it existed after God..God created the first...create.
>> >> >
>> >> > And then you have...'the heavens and the earth.'
>> >> >
>> >> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
>> >>
>> >> Starfaker you are babbling and drooling! The whole biblical creation
>> >> myth like all of the creation myths is an attempt to explain highly
>> >> advanced technical physics to primitive ignorant humans (even MORE
>> >> primitive and ignorant than they are today if you can imagine that!)
>> >>
>> >> Hence it used terms that really make no logical sense like saying
>> >> creation took place in six "days"? Sure you can understand a "day" on
>> >> earth and what it means but what is a "day" for the universe? Obviously
>> >> a "day" is trying to explain operations that took place in stages or
>> >> phases.
>> >>
>> >> Native humans see things in causal form. Hence they want stories about
>> >> "beginnings" But if there was a beginning what was before that? Was
>> >> there a God? Defining God as the universe and all in it and the laws
>> >> that govern it allow you to say the laws might have been there but since
>> >> we are talking "creation" the universe wasn't and since "God" is the
>> >> universe then God must have not existed either unless it was there only
>> >> as laws.
>> >>
>> >> Story is that "God" is outside of time. Therefore "creation" does not
>> >> apply. Creation applies only to causal phenomena that we are and
>> >> observe. Hence out efforts to ascribe a "creation" to God is basically
>> >> nonsense. God is the theater and projectionist (this is something you
>> >> can understand starfaker) it always existed and exists because they are
>> >> outside of time. Then just for US the the movie starts and we watch it
>> >> all take place in linear fashion. But in truth it all already exists
>> >> wound up in the reels of film on the projector. We just can't see the
>> >> part that isn't yet in the projector or the things that have already
>> >> gone through and are wound up on the other reel. But in truth all of our
>> >> "creation" is just ONE time. WE just cannot comprehend something
>> >> existing outside of time. So we make up stories.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >It's very simple, you need to undertsand the order of events....
>> >
>> >
>> >it is God created, not created God.
>> 
>> Where is the evidence any god ever existed?
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Quote from unverified source removed.
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Maybe you people need to go back to school and learn the Inglish languagge...
>> >
>> >
>> Quote from unverified source removed.
>> >
>> >
>> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "In"
>> >
>> >then,
>> >
>> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "the"
>> >
>> >then
>> >
>> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "beginning"
>> >
>> >
>> >then
>> >
>> >
>> >Look up the Defintion for the word: (,)
>> >
>> >
>> >Now, try to understand what the word "In" means...
>> >
>> >and "the"
>> >
>> >
>> >and "beginning".
>> 
>> I see nothing about any god in there.
>
>
>'In the beginning, ..." has nothing to do with any god. 
>
>
>It is about understanding what 'In the beginning, ...'
>is...God comes in afterwards.

Please provide your evidence supporting the existence of any god.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2110123

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-20 12:00 -0700
Message-ID<573F5EDD.500F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2109083
Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 18 May 2016 17:27:27 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <573D086F.5C0A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Attila < wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 18 May 2016 11:26:31 -0700, The Starmaker
> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >> <573CB3D7.2DA7@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >benj wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On 05/18/2016 02:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
> >> >> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> If you can't see it, you don't want to.  Without creation, nothing
> >> >> >>> would exist.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>        Without a creation your god would not exist.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>        Who created your creator?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (all your questions are answered in that one sentence)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So, 'In the beginning..'
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+beginning
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1.
> >> >> > the point in time or space at which something starts.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > '...God created..'
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There was no creation before God..so no one created God since creation did not exist before God..
> >> >> > it existed after God..God created the first...create.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And then you have...'the heavens and the earth.'
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
> >> >>
> >> >> Starfaker you are babbling and drooling! The whole biblical creation
> >> >> myth like all of the creation myths is an attempt to explain highly
> >> >> advanced technical physics to primitive ignorant humans (even MORE
> >> >> primitive and ignorant than they are today if you can imagine that!)
> >> >>
> >> >> Hence it used terms that really make no logical sense like saying
> >> >> creation took place in six "days"? Sure you can understand a "day" on
> >> >> earth and what it means but what is a "day" for the universe? Obviously
> >> >> a "day" is trying to explain operations that took place in stages or
> >> >> phases.
> >> >>
> >> >> Native humans see things in causal form. Hence they want stories about
> >> >> "beginnings" But if there was a beginning what was before that? Was
> >> >> there a God? Defining God as the universe and all in it and the laws
> >> >> that govern it allow you to say the laws might have been there but since
> >> >> we are talking "creation" the universe wasn't and since "God" is the
> >> >> universe then God must have not existed either unless it was there only
> >> >> as laws.
> >> >>
> >> >> Story is that "God" is outside of time. Therefore "creation" does not
> >> >> apply. Creation applies only to causal phenomena that we are and
> >> >> observe. Hence out efforts to ascribe a "creation" to God is basically
> >> >> nonsense. God is the theater and projectionist (this is something you
> >> >> can understand starfaker) it always existed and exists because they are
> >> >> outside of time. Then just for US the the movie starts and we watch it
> >> >> all take place in linear fashion. But in truth it all already exists
> >> >> wound up in the reels of film on the projector. We just can't see the
> >> >> part that isn't yet in the projector or the things that have already
> >> >> gone through and are wound up on the other reel. But in truth all of our
> >> >> "creation" is just ONE time. WE just cannot comprehend something
> >> >> existing outside of time. So we make up stories.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >It's very simple, you need to undertsand the order of events....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >it is God created, not created God.
> >>
> >> Where is the evidence any god ever existed?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Quote from unverified source removed.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Maybe you people need to go back to school and learn the Inglish languagge...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Quote from unverified source removed.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "In"
> >> >
> >> >then,
> >> >
> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "the"
> >> >
> >> >then
> >> >
> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "beginning"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >then
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: (,)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Now, try to understand what the word "In" means...
> >> >
> >> >and "the"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >and "beginning".
> >>
> >> I see nothing about any god in there.
> >
> >
> >'In the beginning, ..." has nothing to do with any god.
> >
> >
> >It is about understanding what 'In the beginning, ...'
> >is...God comes in afterwards.
> 
> Please provide your evidence supporting the existence of any god.


He created the color Yellow on Earth.

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#2110226

FromAttila <<prochoice@here.now>
Date2016-05-20 18:00 -0400
Message-ID<072vjbl147n08l8hqhu26j5vdgif0ohhq2@4ax.com>
In reply to#2110123
On Fri, 20 May 2016 12:00:45 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<573F5EDD.500F@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 18 May 2016 17:27:27 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <573D086F.5C0A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Attila < wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 18 May 2016 11:26:31 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> >> <573CB3D7.2DA7@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >benj wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 05/18/2016 02:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> >> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
>> >> >> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> If you can't see it, you don't want to.  Without creation, nothing
>> >> >> >>> would exist.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>        Without a creation your god would not exist.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>        Who created your creator?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > (all your questions are answered in that one sentence)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So, 'In the beginning..'
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://www.google.com/#q=define+beginning
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1.
>> >> >> > the point in time or space at which something starts.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > '...God created..'
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There was no creation before God..so no one created God since creation did not exist before God..
>> >> >> > it existed after God..God created the first...create.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And then you have...'the heavens and the earth.'
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Starfaker you are babbling and drooling! The whole biblical creation
>> >> >> myth like all of the creation myths is an attempt to explain highly
>> >> >> advanced technical physics to primitive ignorant humans (even MORE
>> >> >> primitive and ignorant than they are today if you can imagine that!)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hence it used terms that really make no logical sense like saying
>> >> >> creation took place in six "days"? Sure you can understand a "day" on
>> >> >> earth and what it means but what is a "day" for the universe? Obviously
>> >> >> a "day" is trying to explain operations that took place in stages or
>> >> >> phases.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Native humans see things in causal form. Hence they want stories about
>> >> >> "beginnings" But if there was a beginning what was before that? Was
>> >> >> there a God? Defining God as the universe and all in it and the laws
>> >> >> that govern it allow you to say the laws might have been there but since
>> >> >> we are talking "creation" the universe wasn't and since "God" is the
>> >> >> universe then God must have not existed either unless it was there only
>> >> >> as laws.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Story is that "God" is outside of time. Therefore "creation" does not
>> >> >> apply. Creation applies only to causal phenomena that we are and
>> >> >> observe. Hence out efforts to ascribe a "creation" to God is basically
>> >> >> nonsense. God is the theater and projectionist (this is something you
>> >> >> can understand starfaker) it always existed and exists because they are
>> >> >> outside of time. Then just for US the the movie starts and we watch it
>> >> >> all take place in linear fashion. But in truth it all already exists
>> >> >> wound up in the reels of film on the projector. We just can't see the
>> >> >> part that isn't yet in the projector or the things that have already
>> >> >> gone through and are wound up on the other reel. But in truth all of our
>> >> >> "creation" is just ONE time. WE just cannot comprehend something
>> >> >> existing outside of time. So we make up stories.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >It's very simple, you need to undertsand the order of events....
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >it is God created, not created God.
>> >>
>> >> Where is the evidence any god ever existed?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Quote from unverified source removed.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Maybe you people need to go back to school and learn the Inglish languagge...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Quote from unverified source removed.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "In"
>> >> >
>> >> >then,
>> >> >
>> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "the"
>> >> >
>> >> >then
>> >> >
>> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: "beginning"
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >then
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Look up the Defintion for the word: (,)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Now, try to understand what the word "In" means...
>> >> >
>> >> >and "the"
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >and "beginning".
>> >>
>> >> I see nothing about any god in there.
>> >
>> >
>> >'In the beginning, ..." has nothing to do with any god.
>> >
>> >
>> >It is about understanding what 'In the beginning, ...'
>> >is...God comes in afterwards.
>> 
>> Please provide your evidence supporting the existence of any god.
>
>
>He created the color Yellow on Earth.

Your assertions are not evidence.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2108970

FromWisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc>
Date2016-05-18 16:01 -0600
Message-ID<aaa-FB9595.16015818052016@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#2108799
In article <573CB3D7.2DA7@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


> 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
 
If everything was created, what created that God?

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