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Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-03 23:04 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-04 16:00 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-05 19:50 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-07 07:45 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-07 16:15 +0200
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Jane <Jane@....> - 2016-05-08 06:51 +1000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:24 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 00:25 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-08 08:45 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 23:24 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-09 18:14 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-05-10 15:47 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:02 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:01 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-07 14:39 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:25 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-07 17:33 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-07 17:02 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:02 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 00:31 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-12 08:22 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 18:50 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-13 17:20 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-14 02:27 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-15 16:05 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-16 22:14 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-17 06:38 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> - 2016-05-17 07:12 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-17 23:21 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-18 03:30 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 11:26 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 12:46 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:03 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:22 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 21:34 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:01 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:27 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 21:35 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-05-18 16:01 -0600
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 17:29 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:12 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-05-18 16:08 -0600
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 18:40 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:33 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-19 17:34 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:21 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 03:45 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:13 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:05 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:34 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 00:59 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-18 12:49 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:06 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:35 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 01:00 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-18 15:44 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-18 14:08 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-18 16:08 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-05-18 15:38 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:37 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:36 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-05-20 01:02 -0400
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-05-18 15:57 -0600
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-19 16:37 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-17 16:39 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-08 00:21 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-05-10 12:59 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-11 14:04 -0500
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-12 00:35 +0000
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-05-14 18:04 -0700
Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-15 16:14 -0500
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 14:12 -0500 |
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On Wed, 18 May 2016 03:30:32 -0400, benj <nobodyxx@gmail> wrote: >Starfaker you are babbling and drooling! The whole biblical creation >myth like all of the creation myths is an attempt to explain highly >advanced technical physics to primitive ignorant humans (even MORE >primitive and ignorant than they are today if you can imagine that!) Well, it certainly is advanced compared to man's ability to reason it out. Yet he and I agree that "creation" as we use it addresses the beginning of all matter and energy in the universe. The what and the where before that is not ours to know. >Hence it used terms that really make no logical sense like saying >creation took place in six "days"? Sure you can understand a "day" on >earth and what it means but what is a "day" for the universe? Obviously >a "day" is trying to explain operations that took place in stages or >phases. Welcome to why the biblical explanation can't be taken literally here. >Native humans see things in causal form. Hence they want stories about >"beginnings" But if there was a beginning what was before that? Was >there a God? Defining God as the universe and all in it and the laws >that govern it allow you to say the laws might have been there but since >we are talking "creation" the universe wasn't and since "God" is the >universe then God must have not existed either unless it was there only >as laws. > >Story is that "God" is outside of time. Therefore "creation" does not >apply. Creation applies only to causal phenomena that we are and >observe. That's what he and I are already saying. >Hence out efforts to ascribe a "creation" to God is basically >nonsense. God is the theater and projectionist (this is something you >can understand starfaker) it always existed and exists because they are >outside of time. Then just for US the the movie starts and we watch it >all take place in linear fashion. But in truth it all already exists >wound up in the reels of film on the projector. We just can't see the >part that isn't yet in the projector or the things that have already >gone through and are wound up on the other reel. But in truth all of our >"creation" is just ONE time. WE just cannot comprehend something >existing outside of time. So we make up stories. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 16:08 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <VIRGIL-27237D.16084318052016@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #2108829 |
In article <aefpjbdljvu8rnk5i8uvl2v1fklt6dbi2a@4ax.com>, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: > Welcome to why the biblical explanation can't be taken literally here Sane people prefer not to take it at all. The myths of wandering tribesmen are not binding in the atomic age! -- Virgil "Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 18:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8prpjbt78t3cgkq73ef6cfo4h71v5soorg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108975 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:08:43 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <VIRGIL-27237D.16084318052016@news.giganews.com> wrote: >In article <aefpjbdljvu8rnk5i8uvl2v1fklt6dbi2a@4ax.com>, > duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: > >> Welcome to why the biblical explanation can't be taken literally here > >Sane people prefer not to take it at all. > >The myths of wandering tribesmen are not binding in the atomic age! Or in any other age. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-19 16:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <s7csjb93pqchondv4mf18h5msep1130jbv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2109002 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 18:40:39 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:08:43 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><VIRGIL-27237D.16084318052016@news.giganews.com> wrote: > >>In article <aefpjbdljvu8rnk5i8uvl2v1fklt6dbi2a@4ax.com>, >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: >> >>> Welcome to why the biblical explanation can't be taken literally here >> >>Sane people prefer not to take it at all. >> >>The myths of wandering tribesmen are not binding in the atomic age! >Or in any other age. Their shoes didn't have nuclear reactors to drive them. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-19 17:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oacsjbp6sl9mntbg1kp6h026449ubfa2v8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2109587 |
On Thu, 19 May 2016 16:33:13 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <s7csjb93pqchondv4mf18h5msep1130jbv@4ax.com> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 18:40:39 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:08:43 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><VIRGIL-27237D.16084318052016@news.giganews.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <aefpjbdljvu8rnk5i8uvl2v1fklt6dbi2a@4ax.com>, >>> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Welcome to why the biblical explanation can't be taken literally here >>> >>>Sane people prefer not to take it at all. >>> >>>The myths of wandering tribesmen are not binding in the atomic age! > >>Or in any other age. > >Their shoes didn't have nuclear reactors to drive them. > Nor do those of anyone else. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-19 16:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <88bsjbp3al89nhs2ta9eodrkc8qtutmmft@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108975 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:08:43 -0600, Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> wrote: >In article <aefpjbdljvu8rnk5i8uvl2v1fklt6dbi2a@4ax.com>, > duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote: > >> Welcome to why the biblical explanation can't be taken literally here > >Sane people prefer not to take it at all. So does the ostrich when it hides it's head in the ground. >The myths of wandering tribesmen are not binding in the atomic age! Oh, did they take the 747 from Cairo to Rome with a stop over at the river? the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 03:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ja7ojbpul24nm34bt9jjst2mo31pfpnse5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108548 |
On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Mitchell Holman wrote: >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >> >> > >> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >> > would exist. >> >> Without a creation your god would not exist. >> >> Who created your creator? > > >'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' Where is the evidence this actually occurred? Use verified sources only. > > >(all your questions are answered in that one sentence) > > >So, 'In the beginning..' > >https://www.google.com/#q=define+beginning > >1. >the point in time or space at which something starts. > > >'...God created..' > > >There was no creation before God..so no one created God since creation did not exist before God.. >it existed after God..God created the first...create. Where is your evidence that any god ever existed? > >And then you have...'the heavens and the earth.' > >--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 14:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <fkfpjbdnvmr6r7tr42phcqgpl1e45hp797@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108571 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 03:45:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id ><573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >>Mitchell Holman wrote: >>> >>> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >>> >>> > >>> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >>> > would exist. >>> >>> Without a creation your god would not exist. >>> >>> Who created your creator? >> >> >>'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > >Where is the evidence this actually occurred? Use verified sources >only. Man is but a speck of dirt on the big picture when it comes to God. Go find your own evidence if you care. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 16:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <akipjb9erhc33grj8k266d4gdq7q6q1nm2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108830 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:13:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <fkfpjbdnvmr6r7tr42phcqgpl1e45hp797@4ax.com> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 03:45:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker >><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >><573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >>>Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>> >>>> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>>> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >>>> >>>> > >>>> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >>>> > would exist. >>>> >>>> Without a creation your god would not exist. >>>> >>>> Who created your creator? >>> >>> >>>'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >> >>Where is the evidence this actually occurred? Use verified sources >>only. > >Man is but a speck of dirt on the big picture when it comes to God. Since it is easy to verify the existence of man but there is no evidence to support the existence of any god the two cannot be compared. > Go find >your own evidence if you care. > I really don't. You are the one who keeps talking about it as if it is real and actually matters. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-19 16:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <a9csjbdheuj81r62u2kskrdg8h72k5fjf2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108872 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:05:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:13:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><fkfpjbdnvmr6r7tr42phcqgpl1e45hp797@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 May 2016 03:45:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker >>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>><573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>>>> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >>>>> > would exist. >>>>> >>>>> Without a creation your god would not exist. >>>>> >>>>> Who created your creator? >>>> >>>> >>>>'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>> >>>Where is the evidence this actually occurred? Use verified sources >>>only. >> >>Man is but a speck of dirt on the big picture when it comes to God. >Since it is easy to verify the existence of man but there is no >evidence to support the existence of any god the two cannot be >compared. There is no possible way for man to actually exist without the hand of God. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-20 00:59 -0400 |
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On Thu, 19 May 2016 16:34:08 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <a9csjbdheuj81r62u2kskrdg8h72k5fjf2@4ax.com> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:05:46 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:13:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><fkfpjbdnvmr6r7tr42phcqgpl1e45hp797@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 18 May 2016 03:45:42 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker >>>><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>>><573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>>>>> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >>>>>> > would exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Without a creation your god would not exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Who created your creator? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>>> >>>>Where is the evidence this actually occurred? Use verified sources >>>>only. >>> >>>Man is but a speck of dirt on the big picture when it comes to God. > >>Since it is easy to verify the existence of man but there is no >>evidence to support the existence of any god the two cannot be >>compared. > >There is no possible way for man to actually exist without the hand of God. > According to your superstition, but there is no evidence any god ever existed. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 12:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <573CC738.C2C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2108571 |
Attila < wrote: > > On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > <573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Mitchell Holman wrote: > >> > >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in > >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: > >> > >> > > >> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing > >> > would exist. > >> > >> Without a creation your god would not exist. > >> > >> Who created your creator? > > > > > >'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' > > Where is the evidence this actually occurred? You're the evidence... Don't you know Who you are?
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 16:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0pipjb16erq8q1rlmbjof00t4kpuu41ecn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108860 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 12:49:12 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <573CC738.C2C@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >Mitchell Holman wrote: >> >> >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >> >> > would exist. >> >> >> >> Without a creation your god would not exist. >> >> >> >> Who created your creator? >> > >> > >> >'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >> >> Where is the evidence this actually occurred? > > >You're the evidence... Nonsense. That is too vague to have any meaning. > > >Don't you know Who you are? Yes. But no one else does. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-19 16:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <racsjbpnpf16dpon0bp7mnsld8k5pp1dg2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108860 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 12:49:12 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >Mitchell Holman wrote: >> >> >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >> >> > would exist. >> >> >> >> Without a creation your god would not exist. >> >> >> >> Who created your creator? >> > >> > >> >'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >> >> Where is the evidence this actually occurred? > > >You're the evidence... >Don't you know Who you are? Attila is God's creation, but he thinks he did it himself. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-20 01:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8e6tjbt1nmglmp8jpn5juv08mfnc645grj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2109591 |
On Thu, 19 May 2016 16:35:15 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <racsjbpnpf16dpon0bp7mnsld8k5pp1dg2@4ax.com> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 12:49:12 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> >wrote: > >>Attila < wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker >>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >>> <573C09FA.5A01@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>> >>> >Mitchell Holman wrote: >>> >> >>> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>> >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >>> >> > would exist. >>> >> >>> >> Without a creation your god would not exist. >>> >> >>> >> Who created your creator? >>> > >>> > >>> >'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' >>> >>> Where is the evidence this actually occurred? >> >> >>You're the evidence... >>Don't you know Who you are? > >Attila is God's creation, but he thinks he did it himself. > My parents created me in a well known biological process. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 15:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhi2l4$8g2$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2108548 |
On Tue, 17 May 2016 23:21:46 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Mitchell Holman wrote: >> >> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >> news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >> >> >> > If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >> > would exist. >> >> Without a creation your god would not exist. >> >> Who created your creator? > > > 'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.' That would be the god for which you have no evidence. <snip more unevidenced bullshit> -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 14:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <48fpjb5uufbv3ihk8v9evobb4uo63qo4qq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108035 |
On Tue, 17 May 2016 07:12:23 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> wrote: >duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: > > >> >> If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >> would exist. > Without a creation your god would not exist. > Who created your creator? I have no idea of the origin of the Creator. You sure are dense on this. It's not for man to know. However, the creation we are discussing is the starting point of all matter and energy composing the universe. Because we can't establish contact with the "before", we can never answer how God can exist before creation. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 16:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fripjbh77dnn27odkah3f1bctg2ptsahar@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108825 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:08:13 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <48fpjb5uufbv3ihk8v9evobb4uo63qo4qq@4ax.com> wrote: >On Tue, 17 May 2016 07:12:23 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> wrote: > >>duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >> >> >>> >>> If you can't see it, you don't want to. Without creation, nothing >>> would exist. > >> Without a creation your god would not exist. >> Who created your creator? > >I have no idea of the origin of the Creator. You sure are dense on this. It's >not for man to know. Where is the evidence to support that statement. > >However, the creation we are discussing is the starting point of all matter and >energy composing the universe. Because we can't establish contact with the >"before", we can never answer how God can exist before creation. Where is the evidence that any god was involved at all? -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 15:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3ekpjbt4rn3s8flq4fvv0c2eatmbhg2fgb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108875 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:08:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:08:13 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><48fpjb5uufbv3ihk8v9evobb4uo63qo4qq@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Tue, 17 May 2016 07:12:23 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>>duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>>news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >>> >>>> If you can't see it, you don't want to. Liar. >>>> Without creation, nothing would exist. Idiot. >>> Without a creation your god would not exist. >>> Who created your creator? >> >>I have no idea of the origin of the Creator. You sure are dense on this. Liar. It's simply applying abstract logic to your unsolicited, in-our-face nonsense. >>It's not for man to know. Imbecile. >Where is the evidence to support that statement. The liar will say he has the evidence, but won't say what it is. >>However, the creation we are discussing Liar, the bronze-age myths and legends you are monolog-ing about. >> is the starting point of all matter and >>energy composing the universe. Liar. >> Because we can't establish contact with the >>"before", we can never answer how God can exist before creation. WHAT FUCKING GOD? >Where is the evidence that any god was involved at all? Up his arse.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-19 16:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5fcsjblorfmcj40vsf3e73i7l1re91jnaq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2108907 |
On Wed, 18 May 2016 15:38:09 -0500, Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote: >On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:08:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> >wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 May 2016 14:08:13 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><48fpjb5uufbv3ihk8v9evobb4uo63qo4qq@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 17 May 2016 07:12:23 -0500, Mitchell Holman <noemail@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>>duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in >>>>news:1i0mjbl1llvtuvpoe7njfrtf3rv7tj9jgc@4ax.com: >>>> >>>>> If you can't see it, you don't want to. > >Liar. > >>>>> Without creation, nothing would exist. > >Idiot. > >>>> Without a creation your god would not exist. >>>> Who created your creator? >>> >>>I have no idea of the origin of the Creator. You sure are dense on this. > >Liar. It's simply applying abstract logic to your unsolicited, >in-our-face nonsense. You won't see it coming. You're hiding your eyes. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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