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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-04-29 12:14 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-05-02 15:55 -0400 |
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Do Atheist Worship Themselves? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-29 12:14 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:40 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:44 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-30 18:33 +0000
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 13:06 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-02 01:31 +0000
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 18:12 -0400
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 01:59 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:36 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 22:56 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +1000
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 02:03 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-02 20:26 +0000
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-02 22:54 +0000
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 22:54 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 01:54 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:36 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 05:43 -0700
Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-05-02 15:55 -0400
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-29 12:14 -0700 |
| Subject | Do Atheist Worship Themselves? |
| Message-ID | <5723B280.6AB@ix.netcom.com> |
God help us, if they do they worship evil.
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| From | John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-29 12:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <i1e7ibh0l4tr0rquj86175rivgkb9vu6bk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >God help us, if they do they worship evil. > ...atheists simply live the life that nature has bestowed upon them free from the inane delusions of a sky daddy. A mind free from the poisonous effects of region is something you may never understand.
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| From | Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-29 12:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d6f32a52-71c6-449a-89bb-cc1a64afe45c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 2:14:10 PM UTC-5, The Spewmaker wrote: > [...] FOAD.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-04-30 18:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ng2tpu$53s$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > God help us, That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence. > if they do they worship evil. It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-01 13:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <572661DE.4EA6@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2098481 |
Smiler wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > God help us, > > That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence. > > > if they do they worship evil. > > It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists. > atheist talk more about Satan than christians do...
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 01:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ng6all$1if4$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2099074 |
On Sun, 01 May 2016 13:06:54 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: >> >> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> >> > God help us, >> >> That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence. >> >> > if they do they worship evil. >> >> It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists. >> > atheist talk more about Satan than christians do... Only when invading theists mention that supposed god character. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 18:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <adjfibl2s02r815qv4ckgq6v023rrf6hlo@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2099198 |
On Mon, 2 May 2016 01:31:33 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:
>On Sun, 01 May 2016 13:06:54 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> Smiler wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> > God help us,
>>>
>>> That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
>>>
>>> > if they do they worship evil.
>>>
>>> It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists.
>>>
>> atheist talk more about Satan than christians do...
>
>Only when invading theists mention that supposed god character.
Why is it that moronic theists seem incapable of forming the plural of
"atheist"?
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
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| From | hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 01:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3a63ae34-8fb7-4dd3-80d8-91cfad104453@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2099074 |
On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 4:06:23 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > Smiler wrote: > > > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > God help us, > > > > That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence. > > > > > if they do they worship evil. > > > > It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists. > > > > > atheist talk more about Satan than christians do... Only in response to theists who keep trying to threaten us with the non-existent critter.
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| From | Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-01 13:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <68badce6-f3af-489a-beeb-9eba91d727d2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > God help us, if they do they worship evil. How do you know you don't worship evil? How do you know the Bible wasn't Satan's handiwork?
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| From | Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-01 22:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b9df9153-98bf-49f6-a758-92f3aabe9781@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2099086 |
On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 1:36:41 PM UTC-7, Wexford Eire wrote: > On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > God help us, if they do they worship evil. > > How do you know you don't worship evil? How do you know the Bible wasn't Satan's handiwork? Oooooh! Good one.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 14:12 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <doo2d4FfktrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > God help us, if they do they worship evil. > Well, they don't, so there's no problem. Sylvia.
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| From | hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 02:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8ca334c6-e259-40fa-bf93-217d7619ce9b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2099262 |
On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 12:12:24 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > God help us, if they do they worship evil. > > > > Well, they don't, so there's no problem. > > Sylvia. But the idea now exists in their miniscule 'minds' - maybe they've been lied to all along and the Bible was written by Satan to keep them stupid and uneducated.
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| From | Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 20:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9c52n3.cdv.19.3@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #2099331 |
Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > In article <8ca334c6-e259-40fa-bf93-217d7619ce9b@googlegroups.com>, > hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 12:12:24 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >>> On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> God help us, if they do they worship evil. >>>> >>> >>> Well, they don't, so there's no problem. >>> >>> Sylvia. >> >> But the idea now exists in their miniscule 'minds' - maybe they've been lied >> to all along and the Bible was written by Satan to keep them stupid and >> uneducated. > > They've been brainwashed to believe that man is so evil that the only > reason they're not all out murdering and raping, and that includes > themselves (which explains the high degree of self-hatred, of course). > So they cannot understand why we behave like civilized people without > the fear of going to hell. > > That makes them completely pitiable. > That old carrot and stick... -- What's wrong with just being good and not expecting a treat at every moment? I out grew the need for Christmas presents at age 8 or 9. And yes I give people gifts on any day I want.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 22:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ng8lr4$1le1$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2099331 |
On Mon, 02 May 2016 02:03:48 -0700, hypatiab7 wrote: > On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 12:12:24 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >> > God help us, if they do they worship evil. >> > >> > >> Well, they don't, so there's no problem. >> >> Sylvia. > > But the idea now exists in their miniscule 'minds' - maybe they've been > lied to all along and the Bible was written by Satan to keep them stupid > and uneducated. They manage that quiet well by themselves, no deities or demons required. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-01 22:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7fc9c20c-1d1a-4928-ae8a-b45ecffab3d0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > God help us, if they do they worship evil. According to whom? Not your made up deity that makes imperfect human beings and then kills them when they act like what he made. That imaginary prick? I can't speak for anybody but myself and I don't worship much, but I certainly do not worship myself. That would require a Norman Mailer sized ego which I don't have. If there were anything I worshiped it would be our shared humanity, how we are all essentially the same. We laugh, we cry, we make plans, fall in love, grow old, get married, have kids, and eventually we die. It doesn't matter who we are or where we come from. It's the same for everybody. Nobody can resist the smile of a baby. Nobody sane would ever want to hurt them. I worship freedom because it results in a mankind that is the best it can be. Slavery never results in the kind of achievements of free men. Every major advancement in history has been due to somebody having freedom to do what they desired. In the old days one had to have patrons who pay them to paint their portraits or sculpt their likeness, in order to allow them to paint or sculpt, whatever they felt drawn to. Now you can go to gofundme, or kickstarter. Sure some people will not use their minds in the way that is best for them and their brothers and sisters. You'd have that no matter how little freedom there was. I also worship the human mind. The most incredible organ to ever exist. Responsible for wiping out diseases like small pox, inventing the internal combustion engine which allowed mankind to travel in comfort never before possible except for the very rich. Airplanes, taking people around the globe in hours not months or years, but hours. Birth control pills allowing for a sexual freedom that was unprecedented, and a whole lot of fun for those of who grew up in that era, the baby boomers. Shedding old standards if they did not make any sense, relying more on technology. People walking on the MOON! Computers, making these reasoned and well thought out discussions possible. Proof that when people are not told what to think, but how to think, they are amazing, miraculous, astounding, a triumph of evolution. Best of all the human mind happens to reside inside beings who live on an amazing, possibly the most amazing planet in the universe. There is so much to see and appreciate. From masterful artwork by some true geniuses, to mountains so beautiful to behold it almost hurts. There's so much of it that it's nearly impossible to see in one lifetime.
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| From | hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 01:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <242478b5-cc4d-4add-adfa-4632c493d119@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > God help us, if they do they worship evil. Evil is a non-existent religious concept. There is only good, bad and the shades between.
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| From | Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 17:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <45676fa6-d6bf-411d-9cb2-b77ec439ddb2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2099329 |
On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:54:49 AM UTC-7, hypatiab7 wrote: > On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > God help us, if they do they worship evil. > > Evil is a non-existent religious concept. There is only good, bad and the shades > between. Sorry, but there is only god and bad or neutral. If something is a shade in between it is still either good or bad, just more or less so.
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| From | nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 05:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bdb50d53-5f2d-47fd-a63e-ef34885329a0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: "Do atheist <sic> worship themselves?" You could have stopped after the first three words. That's a big "No", good buddy. > God help us, if they do they worship evil. God seems remarkably remiss in the "help us" category. Seth
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| From | WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-02 15:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.31917aacff40c98a98c19d@news.east.earthlink.net> |
| In reply to | #2097820 |
In article <5723B280.6AB@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com says... > God help us, if they do they worship evil. > Ah, the dreaded "evil". How do you know that any person is "evil"? Evil is being able to think you can wash the slate clean by asking for forgiveness from an invisible man instead of making good with the people that have been wronged. So, look in the mirror if you want to see the face of "evil".
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