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Do Atheist Worship Themselves?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-04-29 12:14 -0700
Last post2016-05-02 15:55 -0400
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  Do Atheist Worship Themselves? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-29 12:14 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:40 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:44 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-30 18:33 +0000
      Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-05-01 13:06 -0700
        Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-02 01:31 +0000
          Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 18:12 -0400
        Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 01:59 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:36 -0700
      Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 22:56 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +1000
      Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 02:03 -0700
        Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-05-02 20:26 +0000
        Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-02 22:54 +0000
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 22:54 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-05-02 01:54 -0700
      Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:36 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 05:43 -0700
    Re: Do Atheist Worship Themselves? WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-05-02 15:55 -0400

#2097820 — Do Atheist Worship Themselves?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-04-29 12:14 -0700
SubjectDo Atheist Worship Themselves?
Message-ID<5723B280.6AB@ix.netcom.com>
God help us, if they do they worship evil.

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#2097826

FromJohn Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com>
Date2016-04-29 12:40 -0700
Message-ID<i1e7ibh0l4tr0rquj86175rivgkb9vu6bk@4ax.com>
In reply to#2097820
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>God help us, if they do they worship evil.
>
...atheists simply live the life that nature has bestowed upon them
free from the inane delusions of a sky daddy. A mind free from the 
poisonous effects of region is something you may never understand.

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#2097827

FromDavej <galt_57@hotmail.com>
Date2016-04-29 12:44 -0700
Message-ID<d6f32a52-71c6-449a-89bb-cc1a64afe45c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2097820
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 2:14:10 PM UTC-5, The Spewmaker wrote:
> [...]


FOAD.

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#2098481

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-04-30 18:33 +0000
Message-ID<ng2tpu$53s$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2097820
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> God help us,

That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.

> if they do they worship evil.

It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2099074

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-05-01 13:06 -0700
Message-ID<572661DE.4EA6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2098481
Smiler wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > God help us,
> 
> That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
> 
> > if they do they worship evil.
> 
> It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists.
> 


atheist talk more about Satan than christians do...

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#2099198

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-05-02 01:31 +0000
Message-ID<ng6all$1if4$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2099074
On Sun, 01 May 2016 13:06:54 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Smiler wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> > God help us,
>> 
>> That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
>> 
>> > if they do they worship evil.
>> 
>> It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists.
>> 
> atheist talk more about Satan than christians do...

Only when invading theists mention that supposed god character.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2099568

FromDon Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net>
Date2016-05-02 18:12 -0400
Message-ID<adjfibl2s02r815qv4ckgq6v023rrf6hlo@4ax.com>
In reply to#2099198
On Mon, 2 May 2016 01:31:33 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Sun, 01 May 2016 13:06:54 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> Smiler wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> 
>>> > God help us,
>>> 
>>> That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
>>> 
>>> > if they do they worship evil.
>>> 
>>> It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists.
>>> 
>> atheist talk more about Satan than christians do...
>
>Only when invading theists mention that supposed god character.

Why is it that moronic theists seem incapable of forming the plural of
"atheist"?

-- 
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
          Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

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#2099330

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-05-02 01:59 -0700
Message-ID<3a63ae34-8fb7-4dd3-80d8-91cfad104453@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2099074
On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 4:06:23 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> Smiler wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:14:08 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > > God help us,
> > 
> > That would be the supposed god for which you have no evidence.
> > 
> > > if they do they worship evil.
> > 
> > It's Christians that believe in Satan, not atheists.
> > 
> 
> 
> atheist talk more about Satan than christians do...

Only in response to theists who keep trying to threaten us with the
non-existent critter.

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#2099086

FromWexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-01 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<68badce6-f3af-489a-beeb-9eba91d727d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2097820
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> God help us, if they do they worship evil.

How do you know you don't worship evil? How do you know the Bible wasn't Satan's handiwork? 

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#2099288

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-01 22:56 -0700
Message-ID<b9df9153-98bf-49f6-a758-92f3aabe9781@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2099086
On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 1:36:41 PM UTC-7, Wexford Eire wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > God help us, if they do they worship evil.
> 
> How do you know you don't worship evil? How do you know the Bible wasn't Satan's handiwork?

Oooooh!  Good one.

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#2099262

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Date2016-05-02 14:12 +1000
Message-ID<doo2d4FfktrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#2097820
On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> God help us, if they do they worship evil.
>

Well, they don't, so there's no problem.

Sylvia.

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#2099331

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-05-02 02:03 -0700
Message-ID<8ca334c6-e259-40fa-bf93-217d7619ce9b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2099262
On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 12:12:24 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > God help us, if they do they worship evil.
> >
> 
> Well, they don't, so there's no problem.
> 
> Sylvia.

But the idea now exists in their miniscule 'minds' - maybe they've been lied to all along and the Bible was written by Satan to keep them stupid and uneducated.

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#2099519

FromBob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-05-02 20:26 +0000
Message-ID<9c52n3.cdv.19.3@news.alt.net>
In reply to#2099331
Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <8ca334c6-e259-40fa-bf93-217d7619ce9b@googlegroups.com>,
>  hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 12:12:24 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> God help us, if they do they worship evil.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well, they don't, so there's no problem.
>>> 
>>> Sylvia.
>> 
>> But the idea now exists in their miniscule 'minds' - maybe they've been lied 
>> to all along and the Bible was written by Satan to keep them stupid and 
>> uneducated.
> 
> They've been brainwashed to believe that man is so evil that the only 
> reason they're not all out murdering and raping, and that includes 
> themselves (which explains the high degree of self-hatred, of course). 
> So they cannot understand why we behave like civilized people without 
> the fear of going to hell.
> 
> That makes them completely pitiable.
> 

That old carrot and stick...

-- 
What's wrong with just being good and not expecting a treat at every
moment? I out grew the need for Christmas presents at age 8 or 9. And yes I
give people gifts on any day I want. 

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#2099591

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-05-02 22:54 +0000
Message-ID<ng8lr4$1le1$4@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2099331
On Mon, 02 May 2016 02:03:48 -0700, hypatiab7 wrote:

> On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 12:12:24 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 30/04/2016 5:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > God help us, if they do they worship evil.
>> >
>> >
>> Well, they don't, so there's no problem.
>> 
>> Sylvia.
> 
> But the idea now exists in their miniscule 'minds' - maybe they've been
> lied to all along and the Bible was written by Satan to keep them stupid
> and uneducated.

They manage that quiet well by themselves, no deities or demons required.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2099285

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-01 22:54 -0700
Message-ID<7fc9c20c-1d1a-4928-ae8a-b45ecffab3d0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2097820
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> God help us, if they do they worship evil.

According to whom?  Not your made up deity that makes imperfect human beings and then kills them when they act like what he made.  That imaginary prick?

I can't speak for anybody but myself and I don't worship much, but I certainly do not worship myself. That would require a Norman Mailer sized ego which I don't have.

If there were anything I worshiped it would be our shared humanity, how we are all essentially the same.  We laugh, we cry, we make plans, fall in love, grow old, get married, have kids, and eventually we die.  It doesn't matter who we are or where we come from. It's the same for everybody.  Nobody can resist the smile of a baby.  Nobody sane would ever want to hurt them.   

I worship freedom because it results in a mankind that is the best it can be. Slavery never results in the kind of achievements of free men. Every major advancement in history has been due to somebody having freedom to do what they desired.  In the old days one had to have patrons who pay them to paint their portraits or sculpt their likeness, in order to allow them to paint or sculpt, whatever they felt drawn to.  Now you can go to gofundme, or kickstarter.   Sure some people will not use their minds in the way that is best for them and their brothers and sisters.  You'd have that no matter how little freedom there was.

I also worship the human mind.  The most incredible organ to ever exist.  Responsible for wiping out diseases like small pox, inventing the internal combustion engine which allowed mankind to travel in comfort never before possible except for the very rich.  Airplanes, taking people around the globe in hours not months or years, but hours.  Birth control pills allowing for a sexual freedom that was unprecedented, and a whole lot of fun for those of who grew up in that era, the baby boomers. Shedding old standards if they did not make any sense, relying more on technology. People walking on the MOON! Computers, making these reasoned and well thought out discussions possible.  Proof that when people are not told what to think, but how to think, they are amazing, miraculous, astounding, a triumph of evolution.  

Best of all the human mind happens to reside inside beings who live on an amazing, possibly the most amazing planet in the universe.  There is so much to see and appreciate.  From masterful artwork by some true geniuses, to mountains so beautiful to behold it almost hurts. There's so much of it that it's nearly impossible to see in one lifetime.

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#2099329

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-05-02 01:54 -0700
Message-ID<242478b5-cc4d-4add-adfa-4632c493d119@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2097820
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> God help us, if they do they worship evil.

Evil is a non-existent religious concept. There is only good, bad and the shades
between.

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#2099625

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-02 17:36 -0700
Message-ID<45676fa6-d6bf-411d-9cb2-b77ec439ddb2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2099329
On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:54:49 AM UTC-7, hypatiab7 wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:14:10 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > God help us, if they do they worship evil.
> 
> Evil is a non-existent religious concept. There is only good, bad and the shades
> between.

Sorry, but there is only god and bad or neutral.  If something is a shade in between it is still either good or bad, just more or less so.  

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#2099382

Fromnature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-02 05:43 -0700
Message-ID<bdb50d53-5f2d-47fd-a63e-ef34885329a0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2097820
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:

"Do atheist <sic> worship themselves?"  You could have stopped
after the first three words.  That's a big "No", good buddy.

> God help us, if they do they worship evil.

God seems remarkably remiss in the "help us" category.

Seth

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#2099496

FromWangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com>
Date2016-05-02 15:55 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.31917aacff40c98a98c19d@news.east.earthlink.net>
In reply to#2097820
In article <5723B280.6AB@ix.netcom.com>, starmaker@ix.netcom.com says...
> God help us, if they do they worship evil.
> 
Ah, the dreaded "evil".
How do you know that any person is "evil"?
Evil is being able to think you can wash the slate clean by asking for 
forgiveness from an invisible man instead of making good with the people 
that have been wronged.  So, look in the mirror if you want to see the 
face of "evil".

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