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  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-04-14 12:41 -0400
    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-04-14 13:55 -0400
      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> - 2016-04-14 15:53 -0700
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-14 23:34 +0000
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-04-21 15:58 -0400
    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> - 2016-04-14 15:46 -0700
      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-04-15 09:50 -0400
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Kaptain Krunch <pilgrim2@polypen.com> - 2016-04-17 12:12 -0700
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-17 17:57 -0700
    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-04-21 15:47 -0400
      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-21 15:51 -0500
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-04-21 17:16 -0400
      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-04-21 22:19 -0400
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-04-24 12:53 -0400
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2016-04-24 13:54 -0400
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-24 13:32 -0500
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-24 23:06 -0700
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 08:26 -0700
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-25 09:47 -0700
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-26 14:42 -0700
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-27 15:59 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-27 14:47 -0700
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-27 18:47 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-27 18:57 -0700
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-28 03:34 -0400
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-28 15:05 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-04-28 11:53 -0500
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 10:59 -0700
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-04-28 14:32 -0600
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-28 19:07 -0400
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-29 12:25 -0700
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-29 16:37 -0400
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-04-28 19:48 -0700
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-29 13:23 -0500
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? SPQR <SPQR@SPQR.org> - 2016-04-29 14:45 -0600
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-30 09:06 -0500
                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 00:25 -0700
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 11:16 -0700
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-04-28 14:30 -0600
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 13:54 -0700
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 14:22 -0700
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-04-28 16:12 -0600
                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-04-28 19:41 -0700
                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 21:35 -0700
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-04-28 23:51 -0600
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-04-28 16:05 -0600
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-28 19:13 -0400
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-28 19:10 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-04-28 14:00 -0700
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-28 19:17 -0400
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-04-28 19:36 -0700
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-29 03:39 -0400
                                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-04-29 00:45 -0700
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-29 15:11 +0000
                                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-29 13:18 -0400
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-29 15:04 +0000
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-04-29 17:50 -0400
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-30 16:59 +0000
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 16:29 -0700
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 16:17 -0700
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-26 16:46 -0500
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 16:31 -0700
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 16:09 -0700
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 00:31 -0700
        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? bilgat@m.nu - 2016-04-28 08:18 -0500
          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-28 11:25 -0400
            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-28 11:27 -0500
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-04-28 11:39 -0600
                Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-29 13:24 -0500
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-04-29 14:40 -0600
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-04-30 09:11 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-30 17:06 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-01 09:56 -0500
                          Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-01 16:01 +0000
                            Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-03 12:48 -0500
                              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-05-03 11:55 -0600
                  Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-04-30 17:05 +0000
                    Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-01 09:57 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-05-01 16:00 +0000
                        Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-05-03 12:48 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? JimmyJohn <Non@Jtheist.net> - 2016-05-01 10:14 -0600
              Re: [OT] Re: Is there a God, Yes or No? Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-28 19:18 -0400

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#2097421

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> >
> > In article <57225360.6AFD@ix.netcom.com>,
> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
> > > the bible speaks of it first.
> >
> > Internal combustion engines in the bible?
> > Airplanes in The bible?
> > Radio in the bible?
> > Television in the bible?
> > Rockets in the bible?
> > Etc.
> > Not in any bible I ever saw!
> >
> > > The Starmaker
> 
> I already know you 'science guys' wish to take credit for *everything*
> in the world, but you don't...
> 
> inovation by regular people invent things, not scientist. I can take a
> piece of paper and fold
> it and watch it fly...that's not science inventions.
> 
> i shot an arrow in the air...


The truth is...if NASA needs a space suit...they contact the bra
manufacters to have them build one.

To build rover on Mars they contact the bicycles companies...


Science hasn't invented...anything! It's the little people that build
the world...


you can take the credit for the atomic bombs if you like...

and the aids virus...

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#2097444

In article <57227F12.54B@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <57225360.6AFD@ix.netcom.com>,
> > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
> > > > the bible speaks of it first.
> > >
> > > Internal combustion engines in the bible?
> > > Airplanes in The bible?
> > > Radio in the bible?
> > > Television in the bible?
> > > Rockets in the bible?
> > > Etc.
> > > Not in any bible I ever saw!
> > >
> > > > The Starmaker
> > 
> > I already know you 'science guys' wish to take credit for *everything*
> > in the world, but you don't...

> 
> Science hasn't invented...anything!  

But scientists have!

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#2097570

In article <aaa-705E4D.16120628042016@news.giganews.com>,
 Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote:

> > Science hasn't invented...anything!  
> 
> But scientists have!

Only incidentally. Technology invents things. Samuel Morse was a painter, and 
the current science of electromagnetism postdates the telegraph. People continue 
to confuse science and technology, which explains why they do not understand 
NASA.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#2097589

Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> 
> In article <57227F12.54B@ix.netcom.com>,
>  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <57225360.6AFD@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
> > > > > the bible speaks of it first.
> > > >
> > > > Internal combustion engines in the bible?
> > > > Airplanes in The bible?
> > > > Radio in the bible?
> > > > Television in the bible?
> > > > Rockets in the bible?
> > > > Etc.
> > > > Not in any bible I ever saw!
> > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker
> > >
> > > I already know you 'science guys' wish to take credit for *everything*
> > > in the world, but you don't...
> 
> >
> > Science hasn't invented...anything!
> 
> But scientists have!


the only thing scientist invents is solutions to problems no one has.

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#2097597

In article <5722E492.452A@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > 
> > In article <57227F12.54B@ix.netcom.com>,
> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <57225360.6AFD@ix.netcom.com>,
> > > > >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
> > > > > > the bible speaks of it first.
> > > > >
> > > > > Internal combustion engines in the bible?
> > > > > Airplanes in The bible?
> > > > > Radio in the bible?
> > > > > Television in the bible?
> > > > > Rockets in the bible?
> > > > > Etc.
> > > > > Not in any bible I ever saw!
> > > > >
> > > > > > The Starmaker
> > > >
> > > > I already know you 'science guys' wish to take credit for *everything*
> > > > in the world, but you don't...
> > 
> > >
> > > Science hasn't invented...anything!
> > 
> > But scientists have!
> 
> 
> the only thing scientist invents is solutions to problems no one has.

Did you mean "the only thing scientists invent"?

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#2097443

In article <57227896.2F27@ix.netcom.com>,
 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> > 
> > In article <57225360.6AFD@ix.netcom.com>,
> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
> > > the bible speaks of it first.
> > 
> > Internal combustion engines in the bible?
> > Airplanes in The bible?
> > Radio in the bible?
> > Television in the bible?
> > Rockets in the bible?
> > Etc.
> > Not in any bible I ever saw!
> > 
> > > The Starmaker
> 
> 
> I already know you 'science guys' wish to take credit for *everything*
> in the world
 
Then that is just one of the many, many things that you "know" 
that jest ain't so!

"It ain't what you don't know that hurts you most, its what you know for 
sure that jest ain't so."   Mark Twain
-- 
Virgil
"Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens." (Schiller)

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#2097489

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:54:46 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<57227896.2F27@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
>> 
>> In article <57225360.6AFD@ix.netcom.com>,
>>  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
>> > the bible speaks of it first.
>> 
>> Internal combustion engines in the bible?
>> Airplanes in The bible?
>> Radio in the bible?
>> Television in the bible?
>> Rockets in the bible?
>> Etc.
>> Not in any bible I ever saw!
>> 
>> > The Starmaker
>
>
>I already know you 'science guys' wish to take credit for *everything*
>in the world, but you don't...
>
>inovation by regular people invent things, not scientist. I can take a
>piece of paper and fold
>it and watch it fly...that's not science inventions.

Sure it is.  Elementary aeronautical engineering.

>
>i shot an arrow in the air...

And ballistics can predict where it will come down.  Artillery has
done this for over a hundred years.


--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2097488

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:30:38 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<aaa-FE4B41.14303828042016@news.giganews.com> wrote:

>In article <57225360.6AFD@ix.netcom.com>,
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
>> the bible speaks of it first.
>
>Internal combustion engines in the bible? 
>Airplanes in The bible?
>Radio in the bible?
>Television in the bible? 
>Rockets in the bible?
>Etc.
>Not in any bible I ever saw!

PC's
Cell phones
E-Readers

The electromagnetic spectrum


--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2097408

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > i mean come on already...yous atheist and half belivers...
> >
> > BE REAL!
> >
> > Do you
> > see
> > anything
> > in outer space..
> > or anywhere elsewhere
> > in the universe..
> > like some kind of
> > mechanical machine
> >  that can
> > manufacture a rose???
> >
> > or a bee?
> >
> > Only God does stuff like that..
> 
> Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
> the bible speaks of it first.
> 
> Right now science is tryin to figure out..
> 'where did life come from'?


I'll tell you 'where did life come from' because i seem to
notice *nobody* on earth seems to know except me!

I am your new fuckin science teacher...

call me Mr. Nature!


'where did life come from'?...i'll give you a clue...
(that was nature does, gives clues)

do you got rocks in your head?

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#2097491

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:00:09 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<572279D9.656@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > i mean come on already...yous atheist and half belivers...
>> >
>> > BE REAL!
>> >
>> > Do you
>> > see
>> > anything
>> > in outer space..
>> > or anywhere elsewhere
>> > in the universe..
>> > like some kind of
>> > mechanical machine
>> >  that can
>> > manufacture a rose???
>> >
>> > or a bee?
>> >
>> > Only God does stuff like that..
>> 
>> Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
>> the bible speaks of it first.
>> 
>> Right now science is tryin to figure out..
>> 'where did life come from'?
>
>
>I'll tell you 'where did life come from' because i seem to
>notice *nobody* on earth seems to know except me!

Don't worry about it.  That is just one more item yet to be
discovered.  There are millions of them all waiting their turn.

>
>I am your new fuckin science teacher...
>
>call me Mr. Nature!
>
>
>'where did life come from'?...i'll give you a clue...
>(that was nature does, gives clues)
>
>do you got rocks in your head?

Since bone can be described as a type of rock I would certainly hope
so.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2097569

In article <ib65iblksb1ep6v184oa11lr858mmcspq0@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> >I'll tell you 'where did life come from' because i seem to
> >notice *nobody* on earth seems to know except me!
> 
> Don't worry about it.  That is just one more item yet to be
> discovered.  There are millions of them all waiting their turn.

Do you have faith science will get the answer?

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#2097613

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:36:41 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-769196.19364128042016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <ib65iblksb1ep6v184oa11lr858mmcspq0@4ax.com>,
> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> >I'll tell you 'where did life come from' because i seem to
>> >notice *nobody* on earth seems to know except me!
>> 
>> Don't worry about it.  That is just one more item yet to be
>> discovered.  There are millions of them all waiting their turn.
>
>Do you have faith science will get the answer?

No, but it has a better track record than anything else.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2097615

In article <0s36ib5mojavn85ms8a7mn7n2eddidilq7@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:36:41 -0700, je suis charly
> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <charlie-gordon1492-769196.19364128042016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <ib65iblksb1ep6v184oa11lr858mmcspq0@4ax.com>,
> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> >
> >> >I'll tell you 'where did life come from' because i seem to
> >> >notice *nobody* on earth seems to know except me!
> >> 
> >> Don't worry about it.  That is just one more item yet to be
> >> discovered.  There are millions of them all waiting their turn.
> >
> >Do you have faith science will get the answer?
> 
> No, but it has a better track record than anything else.

Are you saying that the creation of life might not be natural?

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#2097727

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 00:45:54 -0700, je suis charly wrote:

> In article <0s36ib5mojavn85ms8a7mn7n2eddidilq7@4ax.com>,
>  Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:36:41 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <charlie-gordon1492-769196.19364128042016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <ib65iblksb1ep6v184oa11lr858mmcspq0@4ax.com>,
>> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >I'll tell you 'where did life come from' because i seem to notice
>> >> >*nobody* on earth seems to know except me!
>> >> 
>> >> Don't worry about it.  That is just one more item yet to be
>> >> discovered.  There are millions of them all waiting their turn.
>> >
>> >Do you have faith science will get the answer?
>> 
>> No, but it has a better track record than anything else.
> 
> Are you saying that the creation of life might not be natural?

As everything we know is natural, how could it be unnatural?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2097756

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 00:45:54 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-5E7918.00455429042016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <0s36ib5mojavn85ms8a7mn7n2eddidilq7@4ax.com>,
> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:36:41 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <charlie-gordon1492-769196.19364128042016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <ib65iblksb1ep6v184oa11lr858mmcspq0@4ax.com>,
>> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >I'll tell you 'where did life come from' because i seem to
>> >> >notice *nobody* on earth seems to know except me!
>> >> 
>> >> Don't worry about it.  That is just one more item yet to be
>> >> discovered.  There are millions of them all waiting their turn.
>> >
>> >Do you have faith science will get the answer?
>> 
>> No, but it has a better track record than anything else.
>
>Are you saying that the creation of life might not be natural?

I have no idea.  Nor does anyone else.

In the future anything is possible.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2097726

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:16:00 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> i mean come on already...yous atheist and half belivers...
>> 
>> BE REAL!
>> 
>> Do you see anything in outer space..
>> or anywhere elsewhere in the universe..
>> like some kind of mechanical machine
>>  that can
>> manufacture a rose???
>> 
>> or a bee?
>> 
>> Only God does stuff like that..
> 
> Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
> the bible speaks of it first.
> 
> Right now science is tryin to figure out..
> 'where did life come from'?
> 
> If those stupid guys would read the bible...

Since when has reading been believing?

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2097884

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:04:16 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:16:00 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> 
>>> i mean come on already...yous atheist and half belivers...
>>> 
>>> BE REAL!
>>> 
>>> Do you see anything in outer space..
>>> or anywhere elsewhere in the universe..
>>> like some kind of mechanical machine
>>>  that can
>>> manufacture a rose???
>>> 
>>> or a bee?
>>> 
>>> Only God does stuff like that..
>> 
>> Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
>> the bible speaks of it first.
>> 
>> Right now science is tryin to figure out..
>> 'where did life come from'?
>> 
>> If those stupid guys would read the bible...
>
>Since when has reading been believing?

With those that move their lips struggling to read _Dick and Jane_,
the sense of accomplishment creates belief.

-- 
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
         Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean) 
          Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

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#2098422

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:50:34 -0400, Don Martin wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:04:16 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:16:00 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> i mean come on already...yous atheist and half belivers...
>>>> 
>>>> BE REAL!
>>>> 
>>>> Do you see anything in outer space..
>>>> or anywhere elsewhere in the universe..
>>>> like some kind of mechanical machine
>>>>  that can
>>>> manufacture a rose???
>>>> 
>>>> or a bee?
>>>> 
>>>> Only God does stuff like that..
>>> 
>>> Look, every time science makes a new big discovery,
>>> the bible speaks of it first.
>>> 
>>> Right now science is tryin to figure out..
>>> 'where did life come from'?
>>> 
>>> If those stupid guys would read the bible...
>>
>>Since when has reading been believing?
> 
> With those that move their lips struggling to read _Dick and Jane_,
> the sense of accomplishment creates belief.

'Dick and Jane' ('Janet and John' in the UK) are real people to them.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2097964

On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 2:42:03 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > in the old days
> > > yous use to
> > > sit around the
> > > campfire
> > > and talk about
> > > the god of thunder, thor..
> > >
> > > yous haven't
> > > changed much today..
> > >
> > > now yous sit around
> > > the campfire talking about
> > >
> > > FLYING SAUCERS and
> > >
> > > aliens from outer space.
> > >
> > > You keep looking
> > > up in the sky
> > > searching for...
> > > someone
> > > watching
> > > you.
> > 
> > The truth is...
> > yous people are
> > still sitting
> > around the campfire
> > making up stories..
> > 
> > now you call it
> > science fiction and
> > The Big Bang.
> 
> 
> yous make up stories about
> life on other planets and
> aliens....but 
> where is the evidence?
> where is the proof??
> 
> you no difference
> from guys making up
> stories about
> god of thunder.
> 
> (my favorite comic book, Thor)
> 
> 
> "There is no God" is just another made up story...in atheist comic books that they read to their children.
> 

No, it's a logical conclusion based on the utter lack of evidence for there being a god.

> This is how atheist talk to their children...
> 
> Athiest Son: "Dad, is there a God?"
> 
> Atheist Dad: "There's no fuckin god, leame me alone you stupid kid!!!"
> 
> Atheist Son: "Where's the proof that theres no God, Dad?"
> 
> Atheist Dad: "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE YOU STUPID KID, YOU'RE JUST LIKE YOUR FUCKIN MOTHER!!!!"

I don't know anybody who is an atheist that has handled the situation anywhere close to your scenario.

In my case my kids asked my if I believe in God and I said no, but many people do.  I told them why I believed as i do, and told them that they would have to make up their own minds about it.  It was easy for them since we had not been trying to indoctrinate them with things that could not be proven.  Except for the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy, which like most kids they never really believed completely anyway.

Actually, I think that conversation might be more like this.

Theist Son:  dad is there a God?

Theist Dad, of course there's a God, no go away while I watch porn on my laptop.

Theist Son:  But that's not something God would approve of.

Theist Dad:  Fuck off, you sound just like your mother.

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#2097956

On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 8:26:21 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> in the old days
> yous use to
> sit around the
> campfire
> and talk about
> the god of thunder, thor..
> 
> yous haven't 
> changed much today..
> 
> now yous sit around
> the campfire talking about
> 
> FLYING SAUCERS and
> 
> aliens from outer space.
> 
> 
Even as remote as the possibility might be for life on other planets, it is still more likely than God.


> You keep looking
> up in the sky
> searching for...
> someone
> watching 
> you.
> 
> 
> You come to the conclusion
> there is no God, there are just
> flying saucers and aliens from
> outer space living on...
> any of the billions of
> earths yous made up.
> 
They aren't made up, they are provable mathematically.  That doesn't mean they exist, only that they are possible IIRC.


> Have you've been to..
> Atheist City on planet
> super earth just off the
> coast of Pluto??
> 
> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---

Have you been to planet earth where facts actually mean something?  Have you pandered the lack of actual evidence of a deity?

Based on the evidence we have so far there is no reason to believe in God.  There is no evidence of any reliable kind that God exists.

No reason to believe that the Bible is the word of God, especially in light of the forgery and fiction contained therein.

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