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Re: Atheist are Blind.. hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-25 15:58 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 17:47 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 08:05 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 18:56 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-28 23:07 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-29 04:50 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-29 04:13 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 11:06 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 03:53 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 12:46 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 05:00 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 13:29 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 06:25 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 15:27 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:51 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-31 12:11 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-31 12:18 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:19 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-31 14:36 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-01 04:15 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-04-01 08:50 +0100
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-30 03:18 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 03:50 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:54 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-29 22:56 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:08 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 04:03 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:56 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-31 04:04 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:22 -0400
Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-31 23:36 -0800
Re: Atheist are Blind.. hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-03-31 05:36 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-31 21:31 -0700
Re: Atheist are Blind.. hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-31 21:29 -0700
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-04-01 04:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vgbsfbpdno6hmihrlai40f44levsff9c93@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2083118 |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 14:36:55 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id <charlie-gordon1492-354AC4.14365531032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> wrote: >In article <p05rfbl1ontb11s617ak68hmbbu2ofehrr@4ax.com>, > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >> to break the psychological hold of superstition in general. > >Thank Fordness, we have you to tell us what is superstition. Glad to help. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> |
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| Date | 2016-04-01 08:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n28sfbt1lu16cs605op3i3o0r82b9qfc9b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2083115 |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:19:37 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:11:14 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><3pvpfbd9ko7139qv47ogbn04lvuh5gb8u7@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:51:18 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:46:15 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in >>>alt.atheism with message-id >>><d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly >>>><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they >>>>>> >wish. However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires >>>>>> >supporting evidence. This is a difference many seem unable or >>>>>> >unwilling to recognize. >>>>>> >>>>>> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows >>>>>> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their >>>>>> worthless 'fatih' >>>>> >>>>>Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth. >>>> >>>>'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not >>>>include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I >>>>forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for >>>>something to quibble. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> As Luther says >>>>>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding >>>>> >>>>>Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker. >>>> >>>>No he is fictional character. >>>> >>>>Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly >>>> >>>>Les Hellawell >>>>Grreting from >>>>YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County >>>> >>>>Martin Luther wrote:: >>>>"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding >>>> >>>>Which means that if Luther practised what he preached >>>>nothing he ever said made any sense >>> >>>At least he broke the power of the catholic church. >> >> Yes indeed but I suspect it was an event whose time had >>come. He was just the catalyst that was needed. >> > >It doesn't really matter how it happened as long as it happened. Just so > Now >to break the psychological hold of superstition in general. Les Hellawell Grreting from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County Martin Luther wrote:: "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding Which means that if Luther practised what he preached nothing he ever said made any sense
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| From | Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 03:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.316547e4f94e62fd98cc35@news.altopia.com> |
| In reply to | #2082342 |
In article <kh5nfb1egcs3uocum92u8ngcv2prehak6a@4ax.com>, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> says... > >You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. > It's not cool to inflict pain on differently dogma'd people. Especially dogma-challenged people. -- Mustaffa Sheboygan
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| From | je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 03:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <charlie-gordon1492-EE0522.03500630032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #2082342 |
In article <kh5nfb1egcs3uocum92u8ngcv2prehak6a@4ax.com>, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:13:18 -0700, je suis charly > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id > <charlie-gordon1492-F41A90.04131829032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> > wrote: > > >In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>, > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > > > >> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel > >> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally > >> honest. > > > >Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get > >through > >life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else. > > > >You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are > >special. You share the short bus with Duke. > > I simply point out where an assertion has no underlying fact for > support. Except for your own assertions. Because those are Special. -- Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 03:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <srlpfblu0d920mitehuqs6fb6g3gc35lpd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2082354 |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:50:06 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id <charlie-gordon1492-EE0522.03500630032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> wrote: >In article <kh5nfb1egcs3uocum92u8ngcv2prehak6a@4ax.com>, > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:13:18 -0700, je suis charly >> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <charlie-gordon1492-F41A90.04131829032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> >> wrote: >> >> >In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>, >> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> > >> >> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel >> >> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally >> >> honest. >> > >> >Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get >> >through >> >life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else. >> > >> >You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are >> >special. You share the short bus with Duke. >> >> I simply point out where an assertion has no underlying fact for >> support. > >Except for your own assertions. Because those are Special. Please give an example of such an assertion. Be specific, with references. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-29 22:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56FB7889.7284@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2081818 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Attila < wrote: > > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > > <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > >hypatiab7 wrote: > > >> > > >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, > > >> > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > > >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> to be continued.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind... > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >wat i mean is.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course, > > >> > > > Who else? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > > >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > > >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > > >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them > > >> > > > > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them > > >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? > > >> > > >> They never have been and their behavior. > > > > > >you're talking about atheist, not christians.... > > > > > > > > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. > > > > Why not? Belief can be in anything, and means nothing. > > I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists, > yous don't know what honesty is. > > Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to > believe, ...I Don't Lie. > > I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat > don't lie! > > I always tell the truth. > > I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the > truth. I just don't know how to lie to them. > > Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe. > > Maybe I have a brain injury.... > > People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you > explain to people > that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? > > Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible... > > I simply, don't lie. > > I cannot lie. > > I don't know how...or it's too differcult. ...also, I don't know Right from Wrong. I never learned right from wrong, and I'm not sure where one learns right from wrong. I'm not interested in legal stuff, cause the illegal I do immediately. I break other peoples rules and laws. Is abortion right or wrong? I don't know. I don't know Right from Wrong. Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway? I'm curious because I never learned Right from Wrong. Did I miss a class or something (while I was cutting classes?) Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway?
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 05:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2082299 |
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:56:09 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <56FB7889.7284@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Attila < wrote: >> > >> > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker >> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> > <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> > >> > >hypatiab7 wrote: >> > >> >> > >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: >> > >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, >> > >> > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker >> > >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> to be continued.. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind... >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >wat i mean is.. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra... >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who???? >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course, >> > >> > > > Who else? >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I >> > >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence >> > >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss >> > >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them >> > >> > > >> > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them >> > >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? >> > >> >> > >> They never have been and their behavior. >> > > >> > >you're talking about atheist, not christians.... >> > > >> > > >> > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. >> > >> > Why not? Belief can be in anything, and means nothing. >> >> I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists, >> yous don't know what honesty is. >> >> Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to >> believe, ...I Don't Lie. >> >> I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat >> don't lie! >> >> I always tell the truth. >> >> I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the >> truth. I just don't know how to lie to them. >> >> Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe. >> >> Maybe I have a brain injury.... >> >> People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you >> explain to people >> that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? >> >> Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible... >> >> I simply, don't lie. >> >> I cannot lie. >> >> I don't know how...or it's too differcult. > > > >...also, I don't know Right from Wrong. > >I never learned right from wrong, and I'm not sure where one learns right from wrong. > >I'm not interested in legal stuff, cause the illegal I do immediately. > >I break other peoples rules and laws. > >Is abortion right or wrong? I don't know. > > >I don't know Right from Wrong. > > >Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway? > > >I'm curious because I never learned Right from Wrong. > > >Did I miss a class or something (while I was cutting classes?) > > >Where do you people learn Right from Wrong anyway? Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person to person and over time. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> |
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| Date | 2016-03-30 04:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #2082343 |
In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person > to person and over time. And with this you argue in favor of a christian god. However the empirical evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main what is right and wrong. -- Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 03:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <utlpfbp6rjbnitugmos5pai67l2kqp5uok@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2082357 |
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:03:33 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id <charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> wrote: >In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>, > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >> Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person >> to person and over time. > >And with this you argue in favor of a christian god. I have never done this. > However the empirical >evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details >smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main what >is right and wrong. Nonsense. Those terms had entirely different meanings and applications in the past and in different cultures. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 04:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <charlie-gordon1492-D261A7.04043531032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> |
| In reply to | #2082822 |
In article <utlpfbp6rjbnitugmos5pai67l2kqp5uok@4ax.com>, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:03:33 -0700, je suis charly > <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id > <charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> > wrote: > > >In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>, > > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > > > >> Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person > >> to person and over time. > > > >And with this you argue in favor of a christian god. > > I have never done this. You have done it now. You are arguing there is no morality without a god to impose. > > However the empirical > >evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details > >smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main > >what > >is right and wrong. > > Nonsense. Those terms had entirely different meanings and > applications in the past and in different cultures. Yes, I understand. You do not see humans naturally having morality. Any morality they exhibit must therefore be of supernatural origin. -- Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 17:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <g45rfbtb0fla6p4iph15lkal5d8eq0svjp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2082856 |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:04:35 -0700, je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id <charlie-gordon1492-D261A7.04043531032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> wrote: >In article <utlpfbp6rjbnitugmos5pai67l2kqp5uok@4ax.com>, > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:03:33 -0700, je suis charly >> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <charlie-gordon1492-0AA546.04033330032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> >> wrote: >> >> >In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>, >> > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> > >> >> Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person >> >> to person and over time. >> > >> >And with this you argue in favor of a christian god. >> >> I have never done this. > >You have done it now. You are arguing there is no morality without a god to >impose. I have never even implied this. You can seem to find the damndest things where there isn't even a whiff of existence. Can you ever get anything even remotely correct? > >> > However the empirical >> >evidence shows you are stupid. Other than small, inconsequential details >> >smmoothed over by host and guest rules, nearly all humans agree in the main >> >what >> >is right and wrong. >> >> Nonsense. Those terms had entirely different meanings and >> applications in the past and in different cultures. > >Yes, I understand. You do not see humans naturally having morality. Any morality >they exhibit must therefore be of supernatural origin. Unbelievable. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 23:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56FE2514.2AF3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2082357 |
je suis charly wrote: > > In article <0r5nfbt77jh00csm16mqepna6qkgvve00m@4ax.com>, > Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > > > Right and wrong have no intrinsic values and will change from person > > to person and over time. > > And with this you argue in favor of a christian god. what is a "christian god"? I mean, Jesus Christ wasn't a christian... And God is an atheist.
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| From | hhyapster@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 05:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6e466495-14ba-480a-b8dd-6caf58c1cea6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2081818 |
On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 2:06:50 PM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote: > Attila < wrote: > > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > > <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > >hypatiab7 wrote: > > >> > > >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, > > >> > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > > >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> to be continued.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind... > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >wat i mean is.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course, > > >> > > > Who else? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > > >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > > >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > > >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them > > >> > > > > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them > > >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? > > >> > > >> They never have been and their behavior. > > > > > >you're talking about atheist, not christians.... > > > > > > > > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. > > > > Why not? Belief can be in anything, and means nothing. > > > > I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists, > yous don't know what honesty is. Honest has nothing to do with religion. In fact, religions are full of cons, cheats and doing things with agenda. > > Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to > believe, ...I Don't Lie. You don't? That is a joke... > > > I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat > don't lie! Right, you are defective.... > > > I always tell the truth. Just like the stars you make, neither reachable nor believable. > > > I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the > truth. I just don't know how to lie to them. It is because you are unbelievable. > > Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe. See, you just want to lie.... > > > Maybe I have a brain injury.... You should stay in the business of making star non-stop. > > > People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you > explain to people > that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? So, you love to lie... > > Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible... > > > I simply, don't lie. > > > I cannot lie. > > I don't know how...or it's too differcult. The same as all the theist trolls, lie.
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| From | hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 21:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0969036d-4d48-47d8-aab3-ada0501a33a8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2081818 |
On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 2:06:50 AM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > Attila < wrote: > > > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > > <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > >hypatiab7 wrote: > > >> > > >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, > > >> > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > > >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> to be continued.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist are Blind... > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >wat i mean is.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The people who make the claims of course, > > >> > > > Who else? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > > >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > > >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > > >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them > > >> > > > > >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them > > >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? > > >> > > >> They never have been and their behavior. > > > > > >you're talking about atheist, not christians.... > > > > > > > > >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest. > > > > Why not? Belief can be in anything, and means nothing. > > > > I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists, > yous don't know what honesty is. > > Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to > believe, ...I Don't Lie. > > > I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat > don't lie! > > > I always tell the truth. > > > I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the > truth. I just don't know how to lie to them. > > Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe. > > > Maybe I have a brain injury.... > > > People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you > explain to people > that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? > > Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible... > > > I simply, don't lie. > > > I cannot lie. > > I don't know how...or it's too differcult. You sound like a computer program.
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| From | hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-31 21:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d34afd37-e823-480f-8a8e-f4fc512fccbb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2080027 |
On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 6:58:05 PM UTC-4, hypatiab7 wrote: > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > > > > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>, > > > Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> to be continued.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Atheist are Blind... > > > > > > > > > >wat i mean is.. > > > > > > > > > >Atheist have this mantra... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!" > > > > > > > > > >But the question is...from Who???? > > > > > > > > The people who make the claims of course, > > > > Who else? > > > > > > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I > > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence > > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss > > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them > > > > > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them > > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity. > > > > > > What makes you think they are NOT honest??? > > They never have been and their behavior. No, Zachy, I mean theist trolls like you. The original college kids who started the Borg and Starmaker nonsense were more honest than you've ever been.
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