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  Re: Atheist are Blind.. hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-25 15:58 -0700
    Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-25 17:47 -0800
      Re: Atheist are Blind.. Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 08:05 -0700
      Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-28 18:56 -0400
        Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-28 23:07 -0800
          Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-29 04:50 -0400
            Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-29 04:13 -0700
              Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:06 -0400
                Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 11:06 +0100
                  Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 03:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 12:46 +0100
                      Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 05:00 -0700
                        Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 13:29 +0100
                          Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 06:25 -0700
                            Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-30 15:27 +0100
                      Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:51 -0400
                        Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-31 12:11 +0100
                          Re: Atheist are Blind.. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-31 12:18 +0100
                          Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:19 -0400
                            Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-31 14:36 -0700
                              Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-04-01 04:15 -0400
                            Re: Atheist are Blind.. Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-04-01 08:50 +0100
                Re: Atheist are Blind.. Mustaffa Sheboygan <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2016-03-30 03:18 -0700
                Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 03:50 -0700
                  Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:54 -0400
          Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-29 22:56 -0800
            Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-30 05:08 -0400
              Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-30 04:03 -0700
                Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 03:56 -0400
                  Re: Atheist are Blind.. je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2016-03-31 04:04 -0700
                    Re: Atheist are Blind.. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-03-31 17:22 -0400
                Re: Atheist are Blind.. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-31 23:36 -0800
          Re: Atheist are Blind.. hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-03-31 05:36 -0700
          Re: Atheist are Blind.. hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-31 21:31 -0700
    Re: Atheist are Blind.. hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-31 21:29 -0700

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#2080027 — Re: Atheist are Blind..

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > 
> > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
> >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> to be continued..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Atheist are Blind...
> > > >
> > > >wat i mean is..
> > > >
> > > >Atheist have this mantra...
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > >
> > > >But the question is...from Who????
> > >
> > > The people who make the claims of course,
> > > Who else?
> > >
> > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> > 
> > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
> 
> 
> What makes you think they are NOT honest???

They never have been and their behavior.

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#2080057

hypatiab7 wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> to be continued..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
> > > > >
> > > > >wat i mean is..
> > > > >
> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > >
> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
> > > >
> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
> > > > Who else?
> > > >
> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> > >
> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
> >
> >
> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
> 
> They never have been and their behavior.

you're talking about atheist, not christians....


if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.


If an atheist says he doesn't believe in God...HE'S FUCKIN LYING!!!!


You give a lie detector to both of them, no atheist can pass it! 


Be real here...

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#2081405

On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 8:46:07 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> hypatiab7 wrote:
> > 
> > On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
> > > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> to be continued..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Atheist are Blind...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >wat i mean is..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >But the question is...from Who????
> > > > >
> > > > > The people who make the claims of course,
> > > > > Who else?
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> > > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> > > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> > > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> > > >
> > > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> > > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
> > >
> > >
> > > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
> > 
> > They never have been and their behavior.
> 
> you're talking about atheist, not christians....
> 
> 
> if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.
> 
> 
> If an atheist says he doesn't believe in God...HE'S FUCKIN LYING!!!!

Aren't you a stupid fucker.

> 
> 
> You give a lie detector to both of them, no atheist can pass it! 
> 
> 
> Be real here...

You should shut up now, you've already embarrassed yourself. 

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#2081645

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>hypatiab7 wrote:
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> > >
>> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
>> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
>> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> to be continued..
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
>> > > > >
>> > > > >wat i mean is..
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> > > > >
>> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
>> > > >
>> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
>> > > > Who else?
>> > > >
>> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
>> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
>> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
>> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
>> > >
>> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
>> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
>> >
>> >
>> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
>> 
>> They never have been and their behavior.
>
>you're talking about atheist, not christians....
>
>
>if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.

Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.

>
>
>If an atheist says he doesn't believe in God...HE'S FUCKIN LYING!!!!

Why?  I do not seriously believe in anything that has no supporting
evidence and I have never seen any such evidence for any god.

>
>
>You give a lie detector to both of them, no atheist can pass it! 
>
>
>Be real here...

Your opinion is noted.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2081818

Attila < wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >hypatiab7 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
> >> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
> >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> to be continued..
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >wat i mean is..
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
> >> > > > Who else?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
> >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
> >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
> >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
> >> > >
> >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
> >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
> >>
> >> They never have been and their behavior.
> >
> >you're talking about atheist, not christians....
> >
> >
> >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.
> 
> Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.



I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists,
yous don't know what honesty is.

Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to
believe, ...I Don't Lie.


I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat
don't lie!


I always tell the truth.


I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the
truth. I just don't know how to lie to them.

Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe.


Maybe I have a brain injury....


People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you
explain to people 
that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? 

Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible...


I simply, don't lie.


I cannot lie.

I don't know how...or it's too differcult.

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#2081839

On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:07:36 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<56FA29B8.425A@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Attila < wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:47:00 -0800, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <56F5EA14.525B@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >hypatiab7 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:25:38 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > In article <mec7fbh7drda7j82gbgrfsrbdltdbb8s4p@4ax.com>,
>> >> > >  Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 21:56:35 -0800, The Starmaker
>> >> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> to be continued..
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Atheist are Blind...
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >wat i mean is..
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Atheist have this mantra...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> >> > > > >"I'm still waiting for proof or evidence!!!"
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >But the question is...from Who????
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The people who make the claims of course,
>> >> > > > Who else?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Personally I have stopped asking knowing that I
>> >> > > > will not get an answer. If they do not offer up evidence
>> >> > > > with their claims (or assertions) I just simply dismiss
>> >> > > > them silently without even bothering to tell them
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I like to give them the opportunity to be honest. I don't expect them
>> >> > > to, but I always like to give them the opportunity.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > What makes you think they are NOT honest???
>> >>
>> >> They never have been and their behavior.
>> >
>> >you're talking about atheist, not christians....
>> >
>> >
>> >if a christian girl tells me she believes in God...she is being honest.
>> 
>> Why not?  Belief can be in anything, and means nothing.
>
>
>
>I was talking about Honesty, ...not beliefs. You must be an atheists,
>yous don't know what honesty is.
>
>Let me say something that will probably be very differcult for yous to
>believe, ...I Don't Lie.
>
>
>I'm incapable of lying. I must have some kind of genetic defect...I juat
>don't lie!
>
>
>I always tell the truth.
>
>
>I get into trouble a lot because a lot of people don't like to hear the
>truth. I just don't know how to lie to them.
>
>Is there medicine I can take that will help me lie? A pill maybe.
>
>
>Maybe I have a brain injury....
>
>
>People tell me I shoudn't tell the truth all the time...but how do you
>explain to people 
>that I don't lie or I'm incapable of lying? 
>
>Some of yous think it's scientifikly impossible...
>
>
>I simply, don't lie.
>
>
>I cannot lie.
>
>I don't know how...or it's too differcult.

According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel
somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally
honest.

How very odd.

But then. you do appear to be a bit odd.

BTW, never lying does not mean always stating facts.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2081868

In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel
> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally
> honest.

Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get through 
life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else.

You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are 
special. You share the short bus with Duke.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#2082342

On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:13:18 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
<charlie-gordon1492-F41A90.04131829032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
wrote:

>In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>,
> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel
>> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally
>> honest.
>
>Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get through 
>life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else.
>
>You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are 
>special. You share the short bus with Duke.

I simply point out where an assertion has no underlying fact for
support.  

A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
unwilling to recognize.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2082347

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:06:12 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 04:13:18 -0700, je suis charly
><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> in alt.atheism with message-id
><charlie-gordon1492-F41A90.04131829032016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <77gkfbp05m3gi01q5rtfio6u56b04snql3@4ax.com>,
>> Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>> According to that long disjointed rambling (I think) you seem to feel
>>> somehow being an atheist requires lying while everyone else is totally
>>> honest.
>>
>>Atheists in general, just like everyone, are decent humans trying to get through 
>>life without uncausing unnecessary pain and suffering on anyone else.
>>
>>You live for what pain you can inflict on those differently dogma'd. You are 
>>special. You share the short bus with Duke.
>
>I simply point out where an assertion has no underlying fact for
>support.  
>
>A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
>wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
>supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
>unwilling to recognize.

Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
worthless 'fatih'

As Luther says
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

How you counter this form of madness?


Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote::
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#2082355

> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
> >wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
> >supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
> >unwilling to recognize.
> 
> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
> worthless 'fatih'

Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.

> As Luther says
> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#2082368

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

>> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
>> >wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
>> >supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
>> >unwilling to recognize.
>> 
>> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
>> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
>> worthless 'fatih'
>
>Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.

'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not
include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I
forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for
something to quibble. 


>> As Luther says
>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>
>Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker.

No he is fictional character.

Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly 

Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote::
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#2082371

In article <d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com>,
 Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly
> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
> 
> >> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
> >> >wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
> >> >supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
> >> >unwilling to recognize.
> >> 
> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
> >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
> >> worthless 'fatih'
> >
> >Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.
> 
> 'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not
> include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I
> forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for
> something to quibble. 

And you still do not present any evidence in favor of your truth. Or is 
expecting evidence rather than just blind assertions a quibble?

At least Duke gives lip service to having faith, though he is equally intolerant 
to anyone who disagrees with his faith.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#2082376

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:00:55 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

>In article <d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com>,
> Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly
>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>> 
>> >> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
>> >> >wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
>> >> >supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
>> >> >unwilling to recognize.
>> >> 
>> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
>> >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
>> >> worthless 'fatih'
>> >
>> >Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.
>> 
>> 'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not
>> include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I
>> forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for
>> something to quibble. 
>
>And you still do not present any evidence in favor of your truth. Or is 
>expecting evidence rather than just blind assertions a quibble?

Still not reading for comprehesion.

Seems you need it spelling out:

I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW ANY TRUTH 

Have you got it now?

>
>At least Duke gives lip service to having faith, though he is equally intolerant 
>to anyone who disagrees with his faith.

Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote::
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#2082398

In article <iehnfbpa1it5fe0he047vpj3hpoqqg5tf2@4ax.com>,
 Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:

> >> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
> >> >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
> >> >> worthless 'fatih'

> Still not reading for comprehesion.
> 
> Seems you need it spelling out:
> 
> I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW ANY TRUTH 
> 
> Have you got it now?

But still you are upset with Duke because he has the wrong Truth. Are you a 
usenet pitbull that just attacks people at random?

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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#2082430

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:25:55 -0700, je suis charly
<charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:

>In article <iehnfbpa1it5fe0he047vpj3hpoqqg5tf2@4ax.com>,
> Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> wrote:
>
>> >> >> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
>> >> >> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
>> >> >> worthless 'fatih'
>
>> Still not reading for comprehesion.
>> 
>> Seems you need it spelling out:
>> 
>> I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW ANY TRUTH 
>> 
>> Have you got it now?
>
>But still you are upset with Duke because he has the wrong Truth. Are you a 
>usenet pitbull that just attacks people at random?

Please cite where I write that  Duke has 'the wrong' truth as I do not
recall writing that. 

Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote::
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#2082817

On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:46:15 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly
><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>
>>> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
>>> >wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
>>> >supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
>>> >unwilling to recognize.
>>> 
>>> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
>>> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
>>> worthless 'fatih'
>>
>>Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.
>
>'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not
>include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I
>forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for
>something to quibble. 
>
>
>>> As Luther says
>>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>
>>Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker.
>
>No he is fictional character.
>
>Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly 
>
>Les Hellawell
>Grreting from
>YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
>
>Martin Luther wrote::
>"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>
>Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
>nothing he ever said made any sense

At least he broke the power of the catholic church.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2082858

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:51:18 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:46:15 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in
>alt.atheism with message-id
><d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly
>><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>>
>>>> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
>>>> >wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
>>>> >supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
>>>> >unwilling to recognize.
>>>> 
>>>> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
>>>> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
>>>> worthless 'fatih'
>>>
>>>Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.
>>
>>'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not
>>include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I
>>forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for
>>something to quibble. 
>>
>>
>>>> As Luther says
>>>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>>
>>>Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker.
>>
>>No he is fictional character.
>>
>>Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly 
>>
>>Les Hellawell
>>Grreting from
>>YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
>>
>>Martin Luther wrote::
>>"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>
>>Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
>>nothing he ever said made any sense
>
>At least he broke the power of the catholic church.

 Yes indeed but I suspect it was an event whose time had
come. He was just the catalyst that was needed. 




Les Hellawell
Grreting from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County

Martin Luther wrote::
"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding

Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
nothing he ever said made any sense

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#2082861

On 31/03/2016 12:11, Les Hellawell wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:51:18 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:46:15 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id
>> <d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly
>>> <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
>>>>>> wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
>>>>>> supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
>>>>>> unwilling to recognize.
>>>>>
>>>>> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
>>>>> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
>>>>> worthless 'fatih'
>>>>
>>>> Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.
>>>
>>> 'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not
>>> include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I
>>> forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for
>>> something to quibble.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> As Luther says
>>>>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>>>
>>>> Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker.
>>>
>>> No he is fictional character.
>>>
>>> Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly
>>>
>>> Les Hellawell
>>> Grreting from
>>> YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
>>>
>>> Martin Luther wrote::
>>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>>
>>> Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
>>> nothing he ever said made any sense
>>
>> At least he broke the power of the catholic church.
>
>   Yes indeed but I suspect it was an event whose time had
> come. He was just the catalyst that was needed.

He wasn't the first, either -- just the most spectacularly successful.

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#2083115

On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:11:14 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<3pvpfbd9ko7139qv47ogbn04lvuh5gb8u7@4ax.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:51:18 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:46:15 +0100, Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> in
>>alt.atheism with message-id
>><d8dnfbh6pu0b73bboudl432nj8bc96q56u@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:53:44 -0700, je suis charly
>>><charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >A belief requires no support - anyone is free to believe whatever they
>>>>> >wish.  However, to present that belief as if it a fact requires
>>>>> >supporting evidence.  This is a difference many seem unable or
>>>>> >unwilling to recognize.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Especially when they claim it is 'The Truth' which to me shows
>>>>> how little regard they have for 'truth' or fact in favour of their
>>>>> worthless 'fatih'
>>>>
>>>>Truth? Whose truth? Mine or yours? Show me the evidence of your truth.
>>>
>>>'They' being anybody who claims to know 'The truth' which does not
>>>include myself. Sorry I did not make that clear enough for you. I
>>>forgot that some people do not read posts for comprehension but for
>>>something to quibble. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>> As Luther says
>>>>> "Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>>>
>>>>Luther? Lex Luther? He is a troublemaker.
>>>
>>>No he is fictional character.
>>>
>>>Martin Luther who I quoted was not fictional sadly 
>>>
>>>Les Hellawell
>>>Grreting from
>>>YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
>>>
>>>Martin Luther wrote::
>>>"Faith must trample underfoot all sense, reason and understanding
>>>
>>>Which means that if Luther practised what he preached
>>>nothing he ever said made any sense
>>
>>At least he broke the power of the catholic church.
>
> Yes indeed but I suspect it was an event whose time had
>come. He was just the catalyst that was needed. 
>

It doesn't really matter how it happened as long as it happened.  Now
to break the psychological hold of superstition in general.

--
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent.

Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially 
those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass.

Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government 
guaranteed above average income for every person.

Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification as the only option.

If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly
before you run into me.

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#2083118

In article <p05rfbl1ontb11s617ak68hmbbu2ofehrr@4ax.com>,
 Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote:

> to break the psychological hold of superstition in general.

Thank Fordness, we have you to tell us what is superstition.

-- 
Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments
of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from
coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true
of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye.

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