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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-13 15:22 -0800 |
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The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-13 15:22 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 15:43 -0700
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-13 16:33 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-03-14 07:30 +0100
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-15 22:07 +0100
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-14 12:00 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-15 12:00 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-16 05:35 -0700
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-13 23:39 +0000
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-17 12:12 -0500
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-03-13 21:42 -0400
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 16:48 -0700
Re: The Theory of Everything..... John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-03-13 17:15 -0700
Re: The Theory of Everything..... MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2016-03-14 00:21 +0000
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Malcolm McMahon <malcolm@theriomorph.me.uk> - 2016-03-14 11:06 +0000
Re: The Theory of Everything..... "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 21:04 +0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-14 11:37 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2016-03-14 17:50 -0400
Re: The Theory of Everything..... Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 14:26 -0700
Re: The Theory of Everything..... "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 20:17 +0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 20:18 +0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-14 12:02 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-15 09:16 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-15 11:07 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 20:20 +0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-16 23:42 -0800
Re: The Theory of Everything..... The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-18 22:04 -0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 15:22 -0800 |
| Subject | The Theory of Everything..... |
| Message-ID | <56E5F635.3B61@ix.netcom.com> |
The Theory of Everything.....is God. Isn't it?
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| From | Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 15:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <13cc9147-fc30-4f40-a3a8-df4b559442cb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2073756 |
On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > > Isn't it? ________ Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is *demonstrably* false in critical parts? What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do you really not see how utterly retarded that is?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 16:33 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56E606E4.5CB3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2073764 |
Greywolf wrote: > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > > > > > Isn't it? > > ________ > > Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is *demonstrably* false in critical parts? > > What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do you really not see how utterly retarded that is? I just asked a question... The Theory of Everything is a hypothetical single, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical framework of physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of the universe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything Isn't it God that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of the universe???? If not God, then Who?
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 07:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <dkn44rFc8hmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #2073773 |
_ >> >> Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is *demonstrably* false in critical parts? >> >> What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do you really not see how utterly retarded that is? > > > I just asked a question... > > The Theory of Everything > is a hypothetical single, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical > framework of > physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of > the universe > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything > > > Isn't it God that fully explains and links together all physical aspects > of the universe???? > > > > If not God, then Who? Possibly the creator of the universe would have created a mesenger as well, who is able to speak to the wolrd and tell people, how the universe works. TH
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| From | Warhol <molarh@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-15 22:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nc9tcr$96q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2073894 |
On 14/03/2016 7:30, Thomas Heger wrote: > _ >>> >>> Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting >>> belief in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is >>> *demonstrably* false in critical parts? >>> >>> What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow >>> you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship >>> of a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST >>> newsgroup? Do you really not see how utterly retarded that is? >> >> >> I just asked a question... >> >> The Theory of Everything >> is a hypothetical single, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical >> framework of >> physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of >> the universe >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything >> >> >> Isn't it God that fully explains and links together all physical aspects >> of the universe???? >> >> >> >> If not God, then Who? > > Possibly the creator of the universe would have created a mesenger as > well, who is able to speak to the wolrd and tell people, how the > universe works. > > TH If HE did do that, you wouldn't believe the messenger anyway, when he explains you how the universe works like mustard seed. See how tiny these seeds are? They are the smallest seeds I have ever seen. A mustard seed is so small that if you were holding one in your hand and dropped it on the ground, you might not be able to find it. Even though the mustard seed is one of the smallest of all seeds, when it is planted in the ground, it grows into a plant so large that birds can perch on its branches and can even build their nests in it. I have read that these tiny seeds can produce a plant that grows ten feet high or more! Great things grow from small beginnings. The Messenger would also say; "I say to you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you." So He told they didn't need a large amount of faith... Just Surrender & Prepare Silver or else...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 12:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56E71845.18C8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2073773 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Greywolf wrote: > > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > > > > > > > > Isn't it? > > > > ________ > > > > Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is *demonstrably* false in critical parts? > > > > What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do you really not see how utterly retarded that is? > > I just asked a question... > > The Theory of Everything > is a hypothetical single, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical > framework of > physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of > the universe > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything > > Isn't it God that fully explains and links together all physical aspects > of the universe???? > > If not God, then Who? In other words... a single all-encompassing that fully explains and links together all the physical aspects of the universe... Is God! Someone, removed the word God, and replace it with the words "The Theory of Everything". A rose by any other name...? You know these guys.. these people of the 'scientific community'.. are always tryin to explain away God, and steal His work. And put it in their name. What a bunch of fuckin theives...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-15 12:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56E869D4.489D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2074042 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Greywolf wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it? > > > > > > ________ > > > > > > Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is *demonstrably* false in critical parts? > > > > > > What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do you really not see how utterly retarded that is? > > > > I just asked a question... > > > > The Theory of Everything > > is a hypothetical single, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical > > framework of > > physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of > > the universe > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything > > > > Isn't it God that fully explains and links together all physical aspects > > of the universe???? > > > > If not God, then Who? > > In other words... > > a single > all-encompassing > that fully explains > and links together > all the physical aspects of > the universe... > Is God! > > Someone, removed the word God, and replace it with the words "The Theory of Everything". > > A rose by any other name...? > > You know these guys.. > these people > of the > 'scientific community'.. > are always tryin to explain away God, > and steal His work. > > And put it in their name. > > What a bunch of fuckin theives... Here you have a well known Atheist, Stephen Hawking...who wrote books.. "The Theory of Everything" by Stephen Hawking and then writes another book "The Grand Design" by Stephen Hawking Everyone knows The Grand Design is the universe by a Grand Designer named God. Wats this obsession with God??? Any other books with a suggestion of God besides "God Created The Integers" by Stephen Hawking How about "The Big Bang And Black Holes" by Stephen Hawking Is Stephen Hawking suggestion that God is having sex with Black women??? (or am i just reading into it?) How about "Black Holes and Baby Universes" by Stephen Hawking?? Is he suggesting that He got some chick pregnant??? (or am i just reading into it?)
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| From | hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-16 05:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <675a2967-530d-4b16-b232-77f38506afda@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2073773 |
On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 7:34:00 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > Greywolf wrote: > > > > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > > > > > > > > Isn't it? > > > > ________ > > > > Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is *demonstrably* false in critical parts? > > > > What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do you really not see how utterly retarded that is? > > > I just asked a question... > > The Theory of Everything > is a hypothetical single, all-encompassing, coherent theoretical > framework of > physics that fully explains and links together all physical aspects of > the universe > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything > > > Isn't it God that fully explains and links together all physical aspects > of the universe???? No. > > > > If not God, then Who? There is no who. That's just an idea that was pounded into your head when you were too young to resist it. I've told you before, Zachy, study the Big Bang Theory and black holes. As long as you refuse to do this, you will remain willingly ignorant. And stop stealing old trolls nyms.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 23:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nc4tne$tve$4@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #2073764 |
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 15:43:43 -0700, Greywolf wrote: > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >> The Theory of Everything.....is God. >> >> >> Isn't it? > > ________ > > Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief > in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is > *demonstrably* false in critical parts? Because he's a moron. > What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow > you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of > a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do > you really not see how utterly retarded that is? The Dunning-Kruger effect prevents him from seeing that. -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 12:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <82plebpa0h3drvi9fgpkbh86f0dd07tv7e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2073778 |
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:39:26 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: >On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 15:43:43 -0700, Greywolf wrote: > >> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >>> The Theory of Everything.....is God. >>> >>> >>> Isn't it? >> >> ________ >> >> Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief >> in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is >> *demonstrably* false in critical parts? > >Because he's a moron. > >> What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow >> you to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of >> a hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do >> you really not see how utterly retarded that is? > >The Dunning-Kruger effect prevents him from seeing that. The stupids can't grasp the idea that it could be merely somebody else's religious belief. It's "real" for them so that makes it so for everybody else too. And every explanation we give, gets filtered through this - so they imagine we "believe the creator of rhe universe which all normal people know is self-evidently real, doesn't exist".
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| From | Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 21:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <981qej.mf3.17.1@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #2073764 |
Greywolf wrote: > On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 5:22:51 PM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote: >> The Theory of Everything.....is God. >> >> >> Isn't it? > > ________ > > Let me ask you a serious question: Why on EARTH are you promoting belief > in a "God" that created very evil itself and a Bible that is > *demonstrably* false in critical parts? > > What is going on in that brainwashed head of yours that doesn't allow you > to see how stupid it is to try and promote adoration and worship of a > hideously malevolent "God" in of all places--an ATHEIST newsgroup? Do you > really not see how utterly retarded that is? a Supreme Being would be like a conscious ways and means set of "all" things, omnipotent and having all choice in all matters, might get boring ... -- Dale http://www.dalekelly.org
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| From | Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 16:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d0378f2f-ae5e-486e-88f3-a49f608225b6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2073756 |
There is no Ultimate Theory of Everything, knowable to math/logic/science, forever and ever. It's a math proof. Incompleteness Theorem - The math will never work. Halting Problem - Even if the math worked, which it doesn't, the computer/critter doing the math can't get it right. Algorithmic Information Theory - Even if the math worked, which it doesn't, and even if the critter/computer doing the math could do it, which it can't, the Ultimate/most concise Occam's Razor, highest information density, highest entropy, most algorithmically random, way of saying anything is eternally unknowable, no matter what, for ever and ever.
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| From | John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 17:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n70ceblpvvnm3tsnjt0ip71kvesn0faftf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2073756 |
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 15:22:29 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > >Isn't it? > ...no, it's not because there is no "God". However, in the world of reality, we're trying to develop a theoretical framework revealing a deeper underlying reality, unifying gravity with the weak, strong and electromagnetic interactions, resulting in the integration of General Relatively and Quantum Field Theory. This would be your "Theory of Everything". But it's a tough nut and will take time and resources to make the breakthrough. Hope this helps.
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| From | MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 00:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2016.03.14.00.21.43@somewhere.invalid> |
| In reply to | #2073756 |
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 15:22:29 -0800, The Starmaker wrote: > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > > Isn't it? No. That's more "idle speculation" than a theory. Theories require actual work to develop, test, and refine. The idea of a god is what you fall back on when you are too lazy to do any real work. -- MarkA Whatever you do in life, surround yourself with smart people who'll argue with you. -- John Wooden
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| From | Malcolm McMahon <malcolm@theriomorph.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 11:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <part1of1.1.rls4nCbkgou2LQ@ue.ph> |
| In reply to | #2073756 |
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > >Isn't it? Not so much a theory as a way of avoiding any responsibility to understand.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 21:04 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <nc6cmt$gkr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2073756 |
On 3/14/2016 7:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > Isn't it? > The Unified Field Theory of Mr. Einstein? -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora release 23) Linux 4.4.3-300.fc23.x86_64 ^ ^ 20:48:01 up 9 days 54 min 0 users load average: 1.00 1.01 1.05 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 11:37 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <56E712EA.103@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #2073956 |
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > > On 3/14/2016 7:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > > Isn't it? > > > > The Unified Field Theory of Mr. Einstein? The Unified Field Theory of Mr. Einstein was only about electricty and gravity, not about everything else.
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| From | Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-14 17:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <c6ceebhtc3t8agrr1gvmi2tgcfhmmgbhn6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #2074038 |
On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:37:14 -0800, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: >> >> On 3/14/2016 7:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >> > The Theory of Everything.....is God. >> > Isn't it? >> > >> >> The Unified Field Theory of Mr. Einstein? You mean "Dr. Einstein." He did have a doctorate, you know. >The Unified Field Theory of Mr. Einstein was only about electricty and >gravity, not about everything else. That's *electromagnetism* and gravity.
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| From | Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-15 14:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ec921d65-77a4-4039-a7f1-e8c3865d0160@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #2074131 |
On Monday, 14 March 2016 21:50:59 UTC, Vincent Maycock wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:37:14 -0800, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > >> > >> On 3/14/2016 7:22 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > The Theory of Everything.....is God. > >> > Isn't it? > >> > > >> > >> The Unified Field Theory of Mr. Einstein? > > You mean "Dr. Einstein." He did have a doctorate, you know. On Planet Starmaker, honours are not given to Jews.
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-16 20:17 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <ncbinp$c5t$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2074131 |
On 3/15/2016 5:50 AM, Vincent Maycock wrote: > > You mean "Dr. Einstein." He did have a doctorate, you know. > He's still a Mr. not a Ms. or Mrs.! :) -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora release 23) Linux 4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64 ^ ^ 20:03:01 up 17:07 0 users load average: 1.09 1.06 1.05 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
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