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evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God?

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2016-03-02 22:33 -0800
Last post2016-03-09 12:48 -0800
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  evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-02 22:33 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 22:47 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:55 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:51 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 01:13 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 13:35 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:26 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 01:37 +0000
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 00:24 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 22:41 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-04 02:38 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 01:23 +0000
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 19:24 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-03 20:46 +0000
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:50 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 01:01 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 22:42 -0800
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 00:04 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 19:28 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 14:59 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:22 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 00:00 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-08 12:24 -0600
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2016-03-03 10:22 +0100
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-03 01:55 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:54 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:00 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-03 08:44 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 09:12 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 18:30 -0500
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-03 20:23 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2016-03-04 15:17 -0500
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:20 -0800
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2016-03-04 17:07 -0500
                Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:10 -0800
                  Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 15:22 -0800
                    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 12:44 -0800
                      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-07 20:57 +0000
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 01:30 +0000
                Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 11:24 -0800
                  Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 21:56 +0000
                    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-09 23:40 +0000
                  Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 15:30 -0800
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 02:29 +0000
                Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-03-04 19:13 -0800
                  Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 22:01 +0000
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 00:23 -0800
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 15:05 -0800
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 00:22 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 00:19 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-03 19:44 +0000
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-03 20:26 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-04 07:56 +0000
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 08:20 -0800
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:40 -0800
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 01:41 +0000
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-05 20:19 -0800
                Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-06 10:11 +0000
                Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-06 19:51 +0000
                  Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-06 12:42 -0800
                    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-07 21:03 +0000
                    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-18 21:48 -0800
                      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 02:09 -0400
                        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-18 23:23 -0800
                Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:36 -0800
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 16:17 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 15:50 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-06 19:52 +0000
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-05 10:47 -0600
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 16:21 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 17:27 -0700
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:24 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 00:01 -0800
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-03-08 12:24 -0600
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Tim <cyfur12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 02:13 -0700
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:58 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 01:50 +0000
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:27 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 01:45 +0000
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 00:58 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-19 02:03 -0700
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 00:33 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 11:22 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 14:43 -0800
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 11:18 -0800
              Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:26 -0800
                Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Prince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 11:03 -0800
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 01:59 +0000
            Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-19 02:36 -0700
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 00:30 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 00:15 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-04 02:37 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-04 08:33 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-03-04 14:45 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-05 02:24 +0000
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 19:21 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-04 23:29 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net> - 2016-03-05 16:26 -0800
        Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 17:38 -0700
          Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:29 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Jørgen Farum Jensen <ateisten@733.dk> - 2016-03-06 20:46 +0100
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-06 16:07 -0800
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Stephen Furley <furles@mail.croydon.ac.uk> - 2016-03-06 14:07 -0800
      Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Les Hellawell <les@shant.tell> - 2016-03-07 05:48 +0000
    Re: evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God? Marvin Sebourn <osugeography@aol.com> - 2016-03-09 12:48 -0800

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#2076661

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-19 02:03 -0700
Message-ID<7ce2888f-8898-443e-93cb-c64ed7d6ddc6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069908
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:27:13 PM UTC-5, Prince Michael wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 5:50:46 PM UTC-8, Smiler wrote:
> > On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 11:58:00 -0800, Prince Michael wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their
> > > hope in their false worldview?
> > 
> > What worldview would that be, liar?
> 
> Now you don't even know your own worldview.

It's your worldview that you are afraid of losing - your religious myth.
Atheists are individuals. We each have our own worldview. Mine is
Secular Humanism. You wouldn't know what that is. It involves thinking.

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#2069702

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 00:33 -0800
Message-ID<070384e9-21c4-48a2-ade6-0899b9b695fa@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069437
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 10:33:21 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> > 
> > 
> > Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
> > 
> 
> 
> That is a valid point, as we already know how lying and deceitful they are, since they don't think any more powerful being will punish them for what they do in this life at all, they can brazenly lie.


If you could only provide evidence that there is a more powerful being.  Not believing in the impossible does not make us deceitful or liars.  You on the other and lie s easily as most folks breathe.

> 
> Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist, rather than not.
> 
> Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their hope in their false worldview?

It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence.  The things that are not factually true like the freeing of the non-existent slaves from Egypt and the Exodus that never happened should give anyone pause to wonder if this is ENTIRELY made up.  

It's a simple deduction to note that the stories and lessons of the Bible are just made up to get people to act like the authors,(whoever they may be)wanted them to act.  A loving God would not only not abide slavery, he wouldn't give instructions on how to beat them.

The list of things wrong with the Bible is very long.  

Now fuck off and obey your savior and go away from where nobody wants to hear your message.

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#2069904

FromPrince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 11:22 -0800
Message-ID<52444b3a-9752-43b6-8000-ec4c4322a850@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069702
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 12:33:39 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:


> > Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist, rather than not.
> > 
> > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their hope in their false worldview?
> 
> It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence. 

So if the evidence came forward of a deity existing, you would not be an atheist is your implication of what you are saying.

But the facts are you are completely full of shit about this and wish to deceive others here with your lying words. 

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#2069987

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 14:43 -0800
Message-ID<3b866044-5d5e-4703-86e6-46fba130af63@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069904
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 11:23:00 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 12:33:39 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist, rather than not.
> > > 
> > > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their hope in their false worldview?
> > 
> > It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence. 
> 
> So if the evidence came forward of a deity existing, you would not be an atheist is your implication of what you are saying.
> 
> But the facts are you are completely full of shit about this and wish to deceive others here with your lying words.

No, the facts are quite clear, we don't believe in a deity based on the current state of the evidence.  Should new evidence come to light demonstrating that ther is a deity, we will reassess.  What facts are you referring to.

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#2070437

FromPrince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-05 11:18 -0800
Message-ID<bac392a5-5994-4f3d-a82d-d59a9db2a23a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069987
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:43:37 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 11:23:00 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 12:33:39 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > > Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist, rather than not.
> > > > 
> > > > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their hope in their false worldview?
> > > 
> > > It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence. 
> > 
> > So if the evidence came forward of a deity existing, you would not be an atheist is your implication of what you are saying.
> > 
> > But the facts are you are completely full of shit about this and wish to deceive others here with your lying words.
> 
> No, the facts are quite clear, we don't believe in a deity based on the current state of the evidence.  Should new evidence come to light demonstrating that ther is a deity, we will reassess.  

Like I said, you are completely full of shit.

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#2071135

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-07 01:26 -0800
Message-ID<fbc712cb-be52-41d2-85f1-9ad2ea4ad086@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2070437
On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:18:29 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:43:37 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 11:23:00 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 12:33:39 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist, rather than not.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their hope in their false worldview?
> > > > 
> > > > It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence. 
> > > 
> > > So if the evidence came forward of a deity existing, you would not be an atheist is your implication of what you are saying.
> > > 
> > > But the facts are you are completely full of shit about this and wish to deceive others here with your lying words.
> > 
> > No, the facts are quite clear, we don't believe in a deity based on the current state of the evidence.  Should new evidence come to light demonstrating that ther is a deity, we will reassess.  
> 
> Like I said, you are completely full of shit.

Since everything you say is a lie, I will not worry about your latest proclamation.

Still worshiping Satan?

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#2071256

FromPrince Michael <t2judgment@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-07 11:03 -0800
Message-ID<2c778c81-5a82-49c8-b2b1-72c301ccadbf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2071135
On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 1:26:32 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:18:29 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 2:43:37 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 11:23:00 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > > > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 12:33:39 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist, rather than not.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their hope in their false worldview?
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence. 
> > > > 
> > > > So if the evidence came forward of a deity existing, you would not be an atheist is your implication of what you are saying.
> > > > 
> > > > But the facts are you are completely full of shit about this and wish to deceive others here with your lying words.
> > > 
> > > No, the facts are quite clear, we don't believe in a deity based on the current state of the evidence.  Should new evidence come to light demonstrating that ther is a deity, we will reassess.  
> > 
> > Like I said, you are completely full of shit.
> 
> Since everything you say is a lie, I will not worry about your latest proclamation.

The people out there can decide if you are honest about this (meaning the current state of the evidence)

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#2070129

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-03-05 01:59 +0000
Message-ID<nbdeii$1j1d$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2069904
On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 11:22:57 -0800, Prince Michael wrote:

> On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 12:33:39 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> 
> 
>> > Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie
>> > to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the
>> > question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist,
>> > rather than not.
>> > 
>> > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their
>> > hope in their false worldview?
>> 
>> It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence.
> 
> So if the evidence came forward of a deity existing,

Thanks for admitting that there is no evidence, after lying numerous times 
that you have some, liar.

> you would not be an
> atheist is your implication of what you are saying.

Depends on which deity it was. I still wouldn't bow down to the monster 
deity of the bible but Venus would be OK.

> But the facts are you are completely full of shit about this and wish to
> deceive others here with your lying words.

Potty Mouth opens it's stinking maw again.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2076671

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-19 02:36 -0700
Message-ID<d246cc52-1835-435b-aa54-ada16408dfc0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2070129
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 8:59:50 PM UTC-5, Smiler wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 11:22:57 -0800, Prince Michael wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 12:33:39 AM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> >> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 11:58:06 AM UTC-8, Prince Michael wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> > Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie
> >> > to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the
> >> > question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist,
> >> > rather than not.
> >> > 
> >> > Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their
> >> > hope in their false worldview?
> >> 
> >> It's not a worldview, it's just a conclusion based on the evidence.
> > 
> > So if the evidence came forward of a deity existing,
> 
> Thanks for admitting that there is no evidence, after lying numerous times 
> that you have some, liar.
> 
> > you would not be an
> > atheist is your implication of what you are saying.
> 
> Depends on which deity it was. I still wouldn't bow down to the monster 
> deity of the bible but Venus would be OK.

I like Ganesha the Hindu elephant-headed god. He's supposed to be the god 
of education and writing. He also removes obstacles and, as far as I know,
doesn't kill. I'd guess that having his head chopped off (for waking his dad
from a nap) and then having his head replaced (his mother raised the roof)
made him thoughtful and wise. 
> 
> > But the facts are you are completely full of shit about this and wish to
> > deceive others here with your lying words.
> 
> Potty Mouth opens it's stinking maw again.

That's Michael Yost for you. If he can't browbeat someone into agreeing with him, he throws monkey feces.

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#2070241

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-05 00:30 -0800
Message-ID<86c8b59f-89ad-4915-8eb6-36f822e90ca8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069437
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 2:58:06 PM UTC-5, Prince Michael wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 10:33:21 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> > 
> > 
> > Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.


Why should we take your word for it that your fictional god exists? 
You never provide acceptable evidence of this.

That is a valid point, as we already know how lying and deceitful they are, since they don't think any more powerful being will punish them for what they do in this life at all, they can brazenly lie.
> 
> Of course, that becomes somewhat circular, as they would have to lie to claim they are atheists when they are not, that leads to the question of what reason would they have to pretend to be atheist, rather than not.
> 
> Peer pressure in front of others, that they don't want to lose their hope in their false worldview?

Please provide evidence that your fictional god ever exited. You can't, and you know it. So, you try unsuccessfully to make atheists prove a negative. It's
incredible how ignorant fundyloons like you are.

 

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#2069699

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 00:15 -0800
Message-ID<50738e73-fb37-4c74-808a-94dc3963cc0b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069200
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 10:33:21 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> 
> 
> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> 
> 
> 
> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
> 
> 
> You want to know
> what you see when you 
> look into the eyes
> of a person
> claiming to be an atheist?...
> 
> Deep down inside them...
> you find.. 
> they believe in God.
> 
> 
> You will find 
> God in their hearts
> kept hidden 
> from everyone else.
> 
> 
> poor things...
> 
> they remind me of closet gay people.
> 
> 
> 
> The Starmaker

That's because you're a religious asshole who can't comprehend that somebody could not believe in your impossible god.  Get over it.  Some people look at the stories in the bible and try and figure out if any of it is even possible.
We know parts of the old testament are just flat out made up.  We know that there are contradictions between the different books.  

If you spent a little bit of time trying to understand the science that shows where parts of the bible are just nonsense, you'd start to doubt your faith.  If you have a mind that is capable of allowing such concepts into your mind, and you are intellectually honest, there really is no other choice than to be an atheist.  

You can't honestly tell me that you believe the story about Caine finding a wife in another town.  Where the hell did the other town come let alone another woman?

You really believe the Adam and Eve Story when we know the human race was born in Africa?

Be honest.

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#2069721

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-04 02:37 -0800
Message-ID<fd0c94f8-b77c-4525-ab55-2f60393d7627@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069200
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> 
> 
> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> 
> 
> 
> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
> 
> 
> You want to know
> what you see when you 
> look into the eyes
> of a person
> claiming to be an atheist?...
> 
> Deep down inside them...
> you find.. 
> they believe in God.
> 
> 
> You will find 
> God in their hearts
> kept hidden 
> from everyone else.
> 
> 
> poor things...
> 
> they remind me of closet gay people.
> 
We aren't trying to convert you, Zachy. If you  believe that we're  not atheists, prove it.

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#2069820

FromDavej <galt_57@hotmail.com>
Date2016-03-04 08:33 -0800
Message-ID<ed94e8d5-5e6a-4b24-9ce2-3c7ede7868d9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069200
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 12:33:21 AM UTC-6, The Starmaker wrote:
> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> 
> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...


And you're a secret Muslim.

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#2069989

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-03-04 14:45 -0800
Message-ID<56DA100E.601@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#2069200
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> 
> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> 
> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
> 
> You want to know
> what you see when you
> look into the eyes
> of a person
> claiming to be an atheist?...
> 
> Deep down inside them...
> you find..
> they believe in God.
> 
> You will find
> God in their hearts
> kept hidden
> from everyone else.
> 
> poor things...
> 
> they remind me of closet gay people.
> 
> The Starmaker



In the old days, 
in Germany...
the Jewish people
would lie about
that they weren't
Jewish, to escape death.

But, all they had to
do to catch them of 
their lie was to
see if they were..
circumcised.


Now, how can you tell
if a person claiming to
be an atheist is not an atheist?

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#2070136

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2016-03-05 02:24 +0000
Message-ID<nbdg1q$1j1d$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#2069989
On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 14:45:34 -0800, The Starmaker wrote:

> The Starmaker wrote:
>> 
>> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
>> 
>> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
>> 
>> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
>> 
>> You want to know what you see when you look into the eyes of a person
>> claiming to be an atheist?...
>> 
>> Deep down inside them...
>> you find..
>> they believe in God.
>> 
>> You will find God in their hearts kept hidden from everyone else.
>> 
>> poor things...
>> 
>> they remind me of closet gay people.
> 
> In the old days,
> in Germany...
> the Jewish people would lie about that they weren't Jewish, to escape
> death.
> 
> But, all they had to do to catch them of their lie was to see if they
> were..
> circumcised.

How would that catch women, moron?
 
> Now, how can you tell if a person claiming to be an atheist is not an
> atheist?

Much more difficult than telling if a person claiming to be a Christian is 
really a Christian. Christians are not supposed to lie, yet they lie all 
the time.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#2070157

Fromhhyapster@gmail.com
Date2016-03-04 19:21 -0800
Message-ID<854cabb8-e8cd-44ae-89a0-0a180823ee22@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069200
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 2:33:21 PM UTC+8, The Starmaker wrote:
> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.

Luckily, no theist has asked for atheists to prove...
> 
> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...

We know what lurks in theists' hearts...
>  
> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.

Your guess is of no consequence...
> 
> 
> You want to know
> what you see when you 
> look into the eyes
> of a person
> claiming to be an atheist?...

Well, you see honesty, moral, and responsible.
> 
> Deep down inside them...
> you find.. 
> they believe in God.

What the need to lie, idiotic moron?????
> 
> 
> You will find 
> God in their hearts
> kept hidden 
> from everyone else.

Another massive lie.
 
> poor things...
> 
> they remind me of closet gay people.

Now many national societies are open you gay people because they are as human as any one else....
> 
> The Starmaker

A lying idiot.

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#2070229

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-04 23:29 -0800
Message-ID<8bb8dff5-777e-4249-b593-22433d308e16@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2069200
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> 
> 
> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> 
> 
> 
> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
> 
> 
> You want to know
> what you see when you 
> look into the eyes
> of a person
> claiming to be an atheist?...
> 
> Deep down inside them...
> you find.. 
> they believe in God.
> 
> 
> You will find 
> God in their hearts
> kept hidden 
> from everyone else.
> 
> 
> poor things...
> 
> they remind me of closet gay people.
> 
We don't have to prove anything to anyone but ourselves. What you believe or don't believe about us means nothing to us. Nothing has changed about you, Zachy, no matter what you call yourself.

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#2070593

Fromhypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
Date2016-03-05 16:26 -0800
Message-ID<7471426f-e9bd-40f8-b63f-74035cc95eee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2070229
On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 23:29:33 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7 <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> You want to know
> >> what you see when you 
> >> look into the eyes
> >> of a person
> >> claiming to be an atheist?...
> >> 
> >> Deep down inside them...
> >> you find.. 
> >> they believe in God.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> You will find 
> >> God in their hearts
> >> kept hidden 
> >> from everyone else.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> poor things...
> >> 
> >> they remind me of closet gay people.
> >> 
> >We don't have to prove anything to anyone but ourselves. What you believe or don't believe about us means nothing to us. Nothing has changed about you, Zachy, no matter what you call yourself.
> 
> We're just trying to help you avoid the eternal fires of hell.

No you aren't. You're just trying to earm heavenly brownie points to make up for all the bad things you did in your youth.

By the way, you still haven't provided evidence that your hell myth is real.

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#2070605

From"%" <persent@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-05 17:38 -0700
Message-ID<97cjlt.9at.17.1@news.alt.net>
In reply to#2070593
hypatiab7 wrote:
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 23:29:33 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7
>> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You want to know
>>>> what you see when you
>>>> look into the eyes
>>>> of a person
>>>> claiming to be an atheist?...
>>>> 
>>>> Deep down inside them...
>>>> you find..
>>>> they believe in God.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You will find
>>>> God in their hearts
>>>> kept hidden
>>>> from everyone else.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> poor things...
>>>> 
>>>> they remind me of closet gay people.
>>>> 
>>> We don't have to prove anything to anyone but ourselves. What you
>>> believe or don't believe about us means nothing to us. Nothing has
>>> changed about you, Zachy, no matter what you call yourself.  
>> 
>> We're just trying to help you avoid the eternal fires of hell.
> 
> No you aren't. You're just trying to earm heavenly brownie points to
> make up for all the bad things you did in your youth. 
> 
> By the way, you still haven't provided evidence that your hell myth
> is real. 

you haven't done anything in all the time you've been alive

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#2071136

FromCloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-07 01:29 -0800
Message-ID<c893781c-c86e-4519-81c9-a6965fb24734@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#2070605
On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 4:37:50 PM UTC-8, % wrote:
> hypatiab7 wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
> >> On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 23:29:33 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7
> >> <hypatiab7@comcast.net> 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-5, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> No one has evidence or proof that Atheist don't believe in God.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Who knows what lurks in their hearts...
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I guesss they just want you to take their word for it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You want to know
> >>>> what you see when you
> >>>> look into the eyes
> >>>> of a person
> >>>> claiming to be an atheist?...
> >>>> 
> >>>> Deep down inside them...
> >>>> you find..
> >>>> they believe in God.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You will find
> >>>> God in their hearts
> >>>> kept hidden
> >>>> from everyone else.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> poor things...
> >>>> 
> >>>> they remind me of closet gay people.
> >>>> 
> >>> We don't have to prove anything to anyone but ourselves. What you
> >>> believe or don't believe about us means nothing to us. Nothing has
> >>> changed about you, Zachy, no matter what you call yourself.  
> >> 
> >> We're just trying to help you avoid the eternal fires of hell.
> > 
> > No you aren't. You're just trying to earm heavenly brownie points to
> > make up for all the bad things you did in your youth. 
> > 
> > By the way, you still haven't provided evidence that your hell myth
> > is real. 
> 
> you haven't done anything in all the time you've been alive

I knew you were following me.

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