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| Started by | wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) |
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| First post | 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 19:53 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 14:58 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 10:52 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 19:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 18:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:33 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:41 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 05:01 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:26 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 09:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:17 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:40 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 11:05 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-24 14:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 16:55 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 14:49 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 07:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:45 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:31 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Doug Freyburger <dfreybur@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-18 22:51 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-18 19:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:39 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:21 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:40 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:36 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 10:05 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 01:13 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 20:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 11:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 17:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-23 16:09 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-25 00:14 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 21:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 00:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 22:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D2C300.1331@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1963135 |
Olrik wrote: > > Le 2015-08-18 01:13, Rudy Canoza a écrit : > > On 8/17/2015 10:10 PM, Olrik wrote: > >> Le 2015-08-18 01:07, Rudy Canoza a écrit : > >>> On 8/17/2015 9:57 PM, Olrik wrote: > >>>> Le 2015-08-18 00:52, The Starmaker a écrit : > >>>>> Alex W. wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: > >>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > >>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, > >>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down > >>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the > >>>>>>>>> world of death. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all > >>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the > >>>>>>> world of > >>>>>>> living will cease to exist. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <looks around> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> No god, and everything is still here... > >>>>> > >>>>> what do you think a fish sees when he <looks around> from inside the > >>>>> aquarium tank? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You can now be looking at God but simply don't understand what you're > >>>>> seeing. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, it looks as if God is not there... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> you have fish eyes. > >>>> > >>>> You should be in an institution. > >>> > >>> You should be dead and have worms eating your body. > >> > >> Why the conditional? > > > > What conditional, fuckwit? There was no conditional. > > > > Maybe you're not a native English speaker after all. > > «after all»? I never pretended to be one, you little troll. > > > However...you need to stop with the "a écrit" bullshit, espèce de con. > > Tu n'ecris pas dans un forum francophone. Arrête avec ta connerie. > > Why did you write your comment in French? Hypocrite much? You see what happens when you mix diffrent breeds of fishes in the same tank...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 22:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D2C370.3BBC@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1963139 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Olrik wrote: > > > > Le 2015-08-18 01:13, Rudy Canoza a écrit : > > > On 8/17/2015 10:10 PM, Olrik wrote: > > >> Le 2015-08-18 01:07, Rudy Canoza a écrit : > > >>> On 8/17/2015 9:57 PM, Olrik wrote: > > >>>> Le 2015-08-18 00:52, The Starmaker a écrit : > > >>>>> Alex W. wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: > > >>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > > >>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, > > >>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down > > >>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the > > >>>>>>>>> world of death. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all > > >>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the > > >>>>>>> world of > > >>>>>>> living will cease to exist. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> <looks around> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> No god, and everything is still here... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> what do you think a fish sees when he <looks around> from inside the > > >>>>> aquarium tank? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> You can now be looking at God but simply don't understand what you're > > >>>>> seeing. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So, it looks as if God is not there... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> you have fish eyes. > > >>>> > > >>>> You should be in an institution. > > >>> > > >>> You should be dead and have worms eating your body. > > >> > > >> Why the conditional? > > > > > > What conditional, fuckwit? There was no conditional. > > > > > > Maybe you're not a native English speaker after all. > > > > «after all»? I never pretended to be one, you little troll. > > > > > However...you need to stop with the "a écrit" bullshit, espèce de con. > > > Tu n'ecris pas dans un forum francophone. Arrête avec ta connerie. > > > > Why did you write your comment in French? Hypocrite much? > > You see what happens when you mix diffrent breeds of fishes in the same > tank... how do ants tell each other apart if they all look alike?
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| From | Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 01:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqug7k$7gg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1963139 |
Le 2015-08-18 01:30, The Starmaker a écrit : > Olrik wrote: >> >> Le 2015-08-18 01:13, Rudy Canoza a écrit : >>> On 8/17/2015 10:10 PM, Olrik wrote: >>>> Le 2015-08-18 01:07, Rudy Canoza a écrit : >>>>> On 8/17/2015 9:57 PM, Olrik wrote: >>>>>> Le 2015-08-18 00:52, The Starmaker a écrit : >>>>>>> Alex W. wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>>>>>>> world of death. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the >>>>>>>>> world of >>>>>>>>> living will cease to exist. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <looks around> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No god, and everything is still here... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what do you think a fish sees when he <looks around> from inside the >>>>>>> aquarium tank? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can now be looking at God but simply don't understand what you're >>>>>>> seeing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, it looks as if God is not there... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you have fish eyes. >>>>>> >>>>>> You should be in an institution. >>>>> >>>>> You should be dead and have worms eating your body. >>>> >>>> Why the conditional? >>> >>> What conditional, fuckwit? There was no conditional. >>> >>> Maybe you're not a native English speaker after all. >> >> «after all»? I never pretended to be one, you little troll. >> >>> However...you need to stop with the "a écrit" bullshit, espèce de con. >>> Tu n'ecris pas dans un forum francophone. Arrête avec ta connerie. >> >> Why did you write your comment in French? Hypocrite much? > > > You see what happens when you mix diffrent breeds of fishes in the same > tank... Indeed! You've been eaten and spit out! Good riddance, troll! -- Olrik aa #1981 EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 23:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D2D2DC.3BC7@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1963144 |
Olrik wrote: > > Le 2015-08-18 01:30, The Starmaker a écrit : > > Olrik wrote: > >> > >> Le 2015-08-18 01:13, Rudy Canoza a écrit : > >>> On 8/17/2015 10:10 PM, Olrik wrote: > >>>> Le 2015-08-18 01:07, Rudy Canoza a écrit : > >>>>> On 8/17/2015 9:57 PM, Olrik wrote: > >>>>>> Le 2015-08-18 00:52, The Starmaker a écrit : > >>>>>>> Alex W. wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 16/08/2015 12:53, niunian wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, > >>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the > >>>>>>>>>>> world of death. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> And what definition is _that_? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all > >>>>>>>>> living things. Without God, all living things will die, and the > >>>>>>>>> world of > >>>>>>>>> living will cease to exist. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> <looks around> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No god, and everything is still here... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> what do you think a fish sees when he <looks around> from inside the > >>>>>>> aquarium tank? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You can now be looking at God but simply don't understand what you're > >>>>>>> seeing. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So, it looks as if God is not there... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> you have fish eyes. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You should be in an institution. > >>>>> > >>>>> You should be dead and have worms eating your body. > >>>> > >>>> Why the conditional? > >>> > >>> What conditional, fuckwit? There was no conditional. > >>> > >>> Maybe you're not a native English speaker after all. > >> > >> «after all»? I never pretended to be one, you little troll. > >> > >>> However...you need to stop with the "a écrit" bullshit, espèce de con. > >>> Tu n'ecris pas dans un forum francophone. Arrête avec ta connerie. > >> > >> Why did you write your comment in French? Hypocrite much? > > > > > > You see what happens when you mix diffrent breeds of fishes in the same > > tank... > > Indeed! You've been eaten and spit out! > > Good riddance, troll! > > -- > Olrik > aa #1981 > EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division that is no way for a food inspector to talk. tell me, what is the longest period of time meat is kept refridgerated before it reaches comsumers? 5 years, ten years, twenty years?
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 05:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <7qb3talvd61dbjg5c0ltuf9fjq7ule62f1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1961554 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >> >>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>> >>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>> >>>> Um, what definition is that? >>> >>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>> world of death. >> >> And what definition is _that_? > >It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >living things. But where is this definition found? > Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >living will cease to exist. What evidence do you have that any god ever existed? Please use verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 20:12 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1962392 |
On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote: > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>> >>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>> >>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>> world of death. >>> >>> And what definition is _that_? >> >> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >> living things. > > But where is this definition found? The Bible in Genesis. > >> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >> living will cease to exist. > > What evidence do you have that any god ever existed? Please use > verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities. The issue of God's existence is a personal one. I can't give you my experience of God. You have to have your own experience to truly understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life. Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds of love and three ounces of wisdom? If not, there is no such thing as the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation. You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the other part is not. > > -- > Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. > > Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially > those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. > > Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government > guaranteed above average income for every person. > > Every illegal alien is a criminal. > No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. > Deportation upon identification as the only option. > > If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly > before you run into me. >
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 19:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <c2r4tad5tj9fqd9q067id44fhlbnk5qj8g@4ax.com> |
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote: >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>> >>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>> world of death. >>>> >>>> And what definition is _that_? >>> >>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>> living things. >> >> But where is this definition found? > >The Bible in Genesis. That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as valueless. > >> >>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>> living will cease to exist. >> >> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed? Please use >> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities. > >The issue of God's existence is a personal one. Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it could everyone would be aware of it. > I can't give you my >experience of God. I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it. > You have to have your own experience to truly >understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find >your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your >life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life. No thanks. Not interested in mythology. > >Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking >for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds >of love and three ounces of wisdom? Nope. Nether of those actually exist. > If not, there is no such thing as >the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation. >You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the >other part is not. > So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other emotion can. But no more. Interesting. But not very. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 13:45 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqujaa$gfe$2@dont-email.me> |
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On 2015-08-18 07:25 AM, Attila < wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>> >>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>> world of death. >>>>> >>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>> >>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>> living things. >>> >>> But where is this definition found? >> >> The Bible in Genesis. > > That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as > valueless. > >> >>> >>>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>> living will cease to exist. >>> >>> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed? Please use >>> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities. >> >> The issue of God's existence is a personal one. > > Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it > could everyone would be aware of it. > >> I can't give you my >> experience of God. > > I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it. > >> You have to have your own experience to truly >> understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find >> your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your >> life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life. > > No thanks. Not interested in mythology. > >> >> Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking >> for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds >> of love and three ounces of wisdom? > > Nope. Nether of those actually exist. Yet, do you deny that love and wisdom actually exist also? > >> If not, there is no such thing as >> the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation. >> You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the >> other part is not. >> > > So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other > emotion can. But no more. > > Interesting. But not very. You forget to mention the word wisdom.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 03:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dhn5tah7njqahbu609sqtpo5qt4so9br6u@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1963158 |
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:45:42 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$2@dont-email.me> wrote: >On 2015-08-18 07:25 AM, Attila < wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >> alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>>> world of death. >>>>>> >>>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>>> >>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>>> living things. >>>> >>>> But where is this definition found? >>> >>> The Bible in Genesis. >> >> That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as >> valueless. >> >>> >>>> >>>>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>>> living will cease to exist. >>>> >>>> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed? Please use >>>> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities. >>> >>> The issue of God's existence is a personal one. >> >> Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it >> could everyone would be aware of it. >> >>> I can't give you my >>> experience of God. >> >> I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it. >> >>> You have to have your own experience to truly >>> understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find >>> your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your >>> life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life. >> >> No thanks. Not interested in mythology. >> >>> >>> Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking >>> for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds >>> of love and three ounces of wisdom? >> >> Nope. Nether of those actually exist. > >Yet, do you deny that love and wisdom actually exist also? Outside of the individual mind involved, yes. > >> >>> If not, there is no such thing as >>> the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation. >>> You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the >>> other part is not. >>> >> >> So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other >> emotion can. But no more. >> >> Interesting. But not very. > >You forget to mention the word wisdom. > Nope. There are a lot of mental conditions I did not mention. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 07:43 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mr0hqp$2h7$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1963167 |
On 2015-08-18 03:28 PM, Attila < wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:45:42 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in > alt.atheism with message-id <mqujaa$gfe$2@dont-email.me> wrote: > >> On 2015-08-18 07:25 AM, Attila < wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:12:46 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqsjdk$7c0$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-17 05:55 PM, Attila < wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:53:17 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> in >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <mqpth7$jil$1@dont-email.me> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>> In article <mqke7a$vf2$9@dont-email.me>, >>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-08-13 09:26 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down >>>>>>>>>> to the god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Um, what definition is that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> By definition, God rules the world of living, the devil rules the >>>>>>>> world of death. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And what definition is _that_? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the definition of God as the living God who gives life to all >>>>>> living things. >>>>> >>>>> But where is this definition found? >>>> >>>> The Bible in Genesis. >>> >>> That source, being unverified, is rejected as being useless as well as >>> valueless. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Without God, all living things will die, and the world of >>>>>> living will cease to exist. >>>>> >>>>> What evidence do you have that any god ever existed? Please use >>>>> verified sources only, and no vague ambiguities. >>>> >>>> The issue of God's existence is a personal one. >>> >>> Then that 'god' can have no effect on the real world because if it >>> could everyone would be aware of it. >>> >>>> I can't give you my >>>> experience of God. >>> >>> I didn't ask for it, and I really am not interested in it. >>> >>>> You have to have your own experience to truly >>>> understand the meaning of God. I can only show you where you can find >>>> your own God. He is within you as the center of your life. You live your >>>> life for him, and he rewards you with happiness and love in life. >>> >>> No thanks. Not interested in mythology. >>> >>>> >>>> Once again, this isn't your elementary science education, so stop asking >>>> for the "evidence" of God like a total idiot. Can you give me ten pounds >>>> of love and three ounces of wisdom? >>> >>> Nope. Nether of those actually exist. >> >> Yet, do you deny that love and wisdom actually exist also? > > Outside of the individual mind involved, yes. First of all, how do you define outside of the individual mind? where would that be? Can you point me to the outside of the individual mind with your individual mind? Secondly, can you deny the importance of love and wisdom simply because it's "within" your individual mind? > >> >>> >>>> If not, there is no such thing as >>>> the evidence of God either. The entire universe is God's manifestation. >>>> You can not claim one part of the universe is God's evidence but the >>>> other part is not. >>>> >>> >>> So a god can affect the universe as much as an emotion or any other >>> emotion can. But no more. >>> >>> Interesting. But not very. >> >> You forget to mention the word wisdom. >> > > Nope. There are a lot of mental conditions I did not mention. OK. Can you show me anything that is not a mental condition?
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