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| First post | 2015-07-31 04:00 -0400 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-07-31 04:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 07:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-07-31 10:17 -0600
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-31 16:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-01 07:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 09:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 11:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-02 08:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 12:40 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 18:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 10:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-02 11:51 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 12:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-02 14:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 15:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-08-02 15:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-02 10:15 -0600
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-08-02 14:02 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-03 03:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-03 09:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-03 18:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-04 15:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-03 17:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-04 18:54 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-05 12:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-06 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-06 17:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-06 04:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-08 06:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:46 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:15 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 01:10 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 20:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 22:28 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:07 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-06 23:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-07 09:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 16:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 22:26 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:46 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-08 04:57 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 08:32 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 14:58 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-08 18:12 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 16:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 08:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-08 13:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-08 14:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-08 14:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 00:00 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-07 05:19 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-07 12:22 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-07 15:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-07 15:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-08 09:42 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 12:59 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:21 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-09 13:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:22 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-12 03:17 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-08-10 06:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-10 04:48 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 12:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-04 05:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-04 15:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-05 04:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-06 05:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 16:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-08 04:35 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-09 05:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 09:48 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-10 05:23 -0400
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 05:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mq1tc4$ftt$1@dont-email.me> |
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On 8/6/2015 8:44 PM, talishi wrote: > >>>> But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. >>>> You're just spouting the same quality of support that I have for >>>> Jesus Christ. >>> >>> Soliphism much? >> >> Mash-up of 'sophism' and 'solipsism'? :-) > > It's whatever I say it is. Everything is. That would depend on what your definition of 'is' is. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 16:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mo9asadvjenj8dr36m9o0m31rsa2ktvbuo@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953601 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:56:48 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >On 08/05/2015 11:57 AM, duke wrote: >> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:54:49 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net> wrote: >> >>> >On 08/04/2015 01:02 PM, duke wrote: >>>> >> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net> wrote: >>>> >> >>>>>> >>> >On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>> >> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No eye >>>>>>>> >>>> >> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, >>>>>>>> >>>> >> etc. >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>> >And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>>> >> What 3rd party verification. >>> > >>> >I gave an example. France got involved in the war between the US and >>> >UK, and their intervention at sea in the Chesapeake Bay region led to >>> >our victory at Saratoga. Your gospels have no attestation outside of >>> >the se >> But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >> spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. >Soliphism much? Just the truth, ma'am, just the truth. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 05:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4j86salhh0g9al2cpskboc8hhovft4om60@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953534 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: >But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even approached. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 16:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953983 |
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: > >>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. >Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses >themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar >accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved >provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even >approached. 20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ. And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 04:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8aebsa9ue0t4df15bkq6rq19invk8rkvkh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1955154 |
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote: >On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. > >>Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses >>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar >>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved >>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even >>approached. > >20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ. Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't. There is no verified evidence he even existed. >And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any >worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died. Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves? Separate accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other accounts? Or to your book of myths? I think not. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 13:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1955448 |
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>alt.atheism with message-id >>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: >>> >>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. >> >>>Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses >>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar >>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved >>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even >>>approached. >> >>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ. > >Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't. There is no verified >evidence he even existed. No war of Independence against England, eh? >>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any >>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died. > >Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves? Separate >accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other >accounts? Or to your book of myths? > >I think not. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-09 04:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pp4esahr9qirg2ho0b7qpmj8d1lbu42v7p@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1955756 |
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote: >On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. >>> >>>>Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses >>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar >>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved >>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even >>>>approached. >>> >>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ. >> >>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't. There is no verified >>evidence he even existed. > >No war of Independence against England, eh? Sorry. A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is available for anyone to inspect. > >>>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any >>>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died. >> >>Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves? Separate >>accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other >>accounts? Or to your book of myths? >> >>I think not. > Thanks for admitting there is nothing to verify your book of myths. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-09 09:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qdpesa5mc2n8uu8gronilsqjnm4gtipr0h@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1956324 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:48:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>alt.atheism with message-id >>><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >>>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. >>>> >>>>>Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses >>>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar >>>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved >>>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even >>>>>approached. >>>> >>>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ. >>> >>>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't. There is no verified >>>evidence he even existed. >> >>No war of Independence against England, eh? > >Sorry. A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there >actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is >available for anyone to inspect. What evidence, and how is it qualitatively any different than what we have for the events of the life of the Son of God. You can look at a musket ball all day, and maybe find the place of manufacture in England. Maybe it was dropped by someone. You can look at a document, a painting and I can look at a document and a painting. >>>>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any >>>>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died. >>> >>>Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves? Separate >>>accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other >>>accounts? Or to your book of myths? >>> >>>I think not. >> > >Thanks for admitting there is nothing to verify your book of myths. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-10 05:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3iqgsapije3umd2pe8sqfb1ar8f2vsi2gm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1956420 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:41:59 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <qdpesa5mc2n8uu8gronilsqjnm4gtipr0h@4ax.com> wrote: >On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:48:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >>>>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. >>>>> >>>>>>Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses >>>>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar >>>>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved >>>>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even >>>>>>approached. >>>>> >>>>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ. >>>> >>>>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't. There is no verified >>>>evidence he even existed. >>> >>>No war of Independence against England, eh? >> >>Sorry. A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there >>actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is >>available for anyone to inspect. > >What evidence, and how is it qualitatively any different than what we have for >the events of the life of the Son of God. You can look at a musket ball all >day, and maybe find the place of manufacture in England. Maybe it was dropped >by someone. You can look at a document, a painting and I can look at a document >and a painting. Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional discussion is possible. Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an true and accurate account of actual events. > >>>>>And the have given us the same quality of testament that you have for any >>>>>worldly event before 125 years ago after the last eye witness has died. >>>> >>>>Accounts personally recorded by the witnesses themselves? Separate >>>>accounts, each from his own viewpoint, and unrelated to any other >>>>accounts? Or to your book of myths? >>>> >>>>I think not. >>> >> >>Thanks for admitting there is nothing to verify your book of myths. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-11 12:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <iedksah7bs1ep4iuqh0q39q4i1vh5kaq5g@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1957012 |
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:11:55 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 09:41:59 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><qdpesa5mc2n8uu8gronilsqjnm4gtipr0h@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 04:48:19 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 13:17:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>alt.atheism with message-id >>><6shcsat1a9u0pjn0sj1u5td2192penksnr@4ax.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:12:58 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:49:26 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>>><iq9asat3ku79p9q8ptsfluttuu4i85f37h@4ax.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:04:40 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:57:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>>>>><22n4satiop92a281p5ck7j3pncamg96pqb@4ax.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>But you're only relating hearsay as the last eye witness is dead. You're just >>>>>>>>spouting the same quality of support that I have for Jesus Christ. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Nope. Direct personal accounts written by the actual eyewitnesses >>>>>>>themselves and which agree in detail with thousands of similar >>>>>>>accounts written by other direct witnesses who were directly involved >>>>>>>provide a level of authenticity no religious text has ever even >>>>>>>approached. >>>>>> >>>>>>20,000+ witnessed the biblical accounts of the life and times of Jesus Christ. >>>>> >>>>>Perhaps they did or perhaps they didn't. There is no verified >>>>>evidence he even existed. >>>> >>>>No war of Independence against England, eh? >>> >>>Sorry. A preponderance of evidence supports the fact that there >>>actually was such a war, and this independent and verified evidence is >>>available for anyone to inspect. >> >>What evidence, and how is it qualitatively any different than what we have for >>the events of the life of the Son of God. You can look at a musket ball all >>day, and maybe find the place of manufacture in England. Maybe it was dropped >>by someone. You can look at a document, a painting and I can look at a document >>and a painting. >Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified >source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional >discussion is possible. Why are they unverified. People actually experienced life then. >Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an >true and accurate account of actual events. No reason to believe that. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-12 03:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <epslsa5p14mbg6e8uhl366os3s7agdgb40@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1957864 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:51:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <iedksah7bs1ep4iuqh0q39q4i1vh5kaq5g@4ax.com> wrote: >>Since you refuse to acknowledge the difference between one unverified >>source and thousands of independently verified sources no additional >>discussion is possible. > >Why are they unverified. People actually experienced life then. See? You prove my point. > >>Based upon your logic every word in Gone With the Wind describes an >>true and accurate account of actual events. > >No reason to believe that. As much reason as there is to believe any of the drivel in your book of superstitions. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 04:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <f1j3sad4c4k1ia3spt0i27pf477qopqmt1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953031 |
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: > >>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No eye >>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, >>> etc. >> >>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. > >What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for Jesus >Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. > What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or indirectly, with your bible? Direct verified accounts or 'paintings' by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization connected to it? What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources? Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means? -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-05 13:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953311 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >> >>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No eye >>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, >>>> etc. >>> >>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >> >>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for Jesus >>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. >What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >indirectly, with your bible? You don't have a clue as to what I have nor how it is found in the bible. You're going to have to do some quick study if you want to engage in serious discussion. > Direct verified accounts or 'paintings' >by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization >connected to it? >What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources? >Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means? Yep, exactly what you have after the last eye witnessed died. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 04:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mpv7ia$8uu$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1953538 |
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com... > On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No >>>>> eye >>>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, >>>>> artifacts, >>>>> etc. >>>> >>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>> >>>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for >>>Jesus >>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. > >>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >>indirectly, with your bible? > > You don't have a clue as to what I have Yet you constantly claim that you've presented evidence here. Thanks for admitting that you're a liar, earl.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 16:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <hv9asadvj673mj4l73ppmrd7f518k6ge79@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953975 |
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 04:57:45 -0400, "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> wrote: > > >"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message >news:s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com... >> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>alt.atheism with message-id >>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No >>>>>> eye >>>>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, >>>>>> artifacts, >>>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>>> >>>>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for >>>>Jesus >>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. >> >>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >>>indirectly, with your bible? >> >> You don't have a clue as to what I have > >Yet you constantly claim that you've presented evidence here. Thanks for >admitting that you're a liar, earl. You don't have the faculties to grasp the evidence. You reflect this constantly. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 06:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mq4m4l$ktf$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1955156 |
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:hv9asadvj673mj4l73ppmrd7f518k6ge79@4ax.com... > On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 04:57:45 -0400, "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> wrote: > >> >> >>"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message >>news:s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. >>>>>>> No >>>>>>> eye >>>>>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, >>>>>>> paintings, >>>>>>> artifacts, >>>>>>> etc. >>>>>> >>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>>>> >>>>>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for >>>>>Jesus >>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. >>> >>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >>>>indirectly, with your bible? >>> >>> You don't have a clue as to what I have >> >>Yet you constantly claim that you've presented evidence here. Thanks for >>admitting that you're a liar, earl. > > You don't have the faculties to grasp the evidence. You reflect this > constantly. You haven't provided any evidence to grasp. You simply vacillate between saying the bible is god's word and saying it's some goat herders word. You haven't got a shred of evidence and you prove that every time you make vacuous claims to the contrary.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-06 05:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <qp86sa18a9s2mmpq4t4fp5ddpg253hktl4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953538 |
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote: >On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >>> >>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No eye >>>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, >>>>> etc. >>>> >>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>> >>>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for Jesus >>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. > >>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >>indirectly, with your bible? > >You don't have a clue as to what I have So you say, and refuse to elaborate. > nor how it is found in the bible. You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES NOT MATTER! >You're >going to have to do some quick study if you want to engage in serious >discussion. Study what? > >> Direct verified accounts or 'paintings' >>by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization >>connected to it? >>What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources? >>Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means? > >Yep, exactly what you have after the last eye witnessed died. > Obviously you do not. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-07 16:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1953985 |
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>alt.atheism with message-id >>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No eye >>>>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, >>>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>>> >>>>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for Jesus >>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. >> >>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >>>indirectly, with your bible? >> >>You don't have a clue as to what I have > >So you say, and refuse to elaborate. We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1 >> nor how it is found in the bible. >You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES >NOT MATTER! Not to you that want nothing to do with God. > >>You're >>going to have to do some quick study if you want to engage in serious >>discussion. > >Study what? > >> >>> Direct verified accounts or 'paintings' >>>by people who never heard of that bible or any person or organization >>>connected to it? >>>What 'artifacts' what are independent of such sources? >>>Do you understand what 'independent' or 'verified' means? >> >>Yep, exactly what you have after the last eye witnessed died. >> > >Obviously you do not. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 04:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ogebsa9oeuo922b4esip9uq9jpm9h0loab@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1955159 |
On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote: >On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: > >>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>alt.atheism with message-id >><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No eye >>>>>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, >>>>>>> etc. >>>>>> >>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>>>> >>>>>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for Jesus >>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. >>> >>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >>>>indirectly, with your bible? >>> >>>You don't have a clue as to what I have >> >>So you say, and refuse to elaborate. > >We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1 Which means what? Numbers alone prove something? As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered - does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers involved made it invalid? Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid? > >>> nor how it is found in the bible. > >>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES >>NOT MATTER! > >Not to you that want nothing to do with God. Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is concerned. How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology? After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-08 13:19 -0500 |
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 04:19:13 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 16:51:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >alt.atheism with message-id ><b1aasa588bg2g87ihj51edvvk5bio3kbaf@4ax.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:06:52 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:59:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>alt.atheism with message-id >>><s4n4sapjfaebpm0nr1ct0vqt4bbf7huigd@4ax.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 04:44:41 -0400, Attila <<prochoice@here.now> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:02:34 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> in >>>>>alt.atheism with message-id >>>>><9g62sat66jooq00mg9ro6fktj8qmg7stdi@4ax.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:56:09 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 08/03/2015 02:42 PM, duke wrote: >>>>>>>> Prove the American War of Independence occurred. Same difference. No eye >>>>>>>> witnesses to testify. Just documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, >>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And third party verification (ie France), unlike your gospels. >>>>>> >>>>>>What 3rd party verification. I have the same types of verification for Jesus >>>>>>Christ - documents, accounts of others, paintings, artifacts, etc. >>>> >>>>>What do you have that has absolutely no connection, directly or >>>>>indirectly, with your bible? >>>> >>>>You don't have a clue as to what I have >>> >>>So you say, and refuse to elaborate. >> >>We people of God outnumber you atheist 25:1 > >Which means what? Numbers alone prove something? Just wanted you to know that you are clearly in a minority. >As I have frequently asked and you of course have never answered - >does that mean back when your superstition was just starting out and >only a few people had even heard of it does that mean the numbers >involved made it invalid? >Just how many does it take to 'prove' a superstition is valid? I would say the answer is one (1). > >> >>>> nor how it is found in the bible. >> >>>You evidently can't understand that what is found in that source DOES >>>NOT MATTER! >> >>Not to you that want nothing to do with God. > >Because it has never been validated as far as what it says is >concerned. How does anyone know it's contents are not pure mythology? >After all, a lot of it is a bit unlikely, and physically impossible. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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