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| First post | 2015-06-23 17:13 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-06-26 17:37 -0500 |
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-23 17:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-24 00:22 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-24 14:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-06-24 14:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-24 21:48 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-25 13:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-25 21:35 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-27 19:06 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-29 20:05 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-29 17:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-06-30 08:43 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-29 17:39 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-30 11:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-04 08:30 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-04 08:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-05 08:47 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 08:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-05 06:59 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-05 10:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-05 10:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-05 08:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-05 11:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-05 10:05 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-05 12:14 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-05 14:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:24 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-05 18:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:43 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 19:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-06 02:08 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-06 21:48 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-07-07 08:45 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 19:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:19 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-08 19:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 06:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-07-10 06:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-08 06:45 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 22:53 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:08 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 21:16 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 06:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-06 17:56 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-07 20:03 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:09 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:44 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 09:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 07:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 06:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 08:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-09 07:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:07 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 10:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-08 17:57 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 06:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-09 10:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-09 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-09 20:53 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 07:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 06:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 08:28 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-09 10:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 19:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:09 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-07 23:55 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-09 04:46 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:21 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-09 01:41 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-09 23:10 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 16:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-06 21:02 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:24 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 23:13 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 22:40 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-07-07 17:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-07 18:50 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 17:37 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:27 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-08 17:54 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-09 10:54 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-08 18:35 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 17:31 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-05 14:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-06 02:21 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 06:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-07-05 14:11 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-05 20:00 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-07-05 18:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-06 20:59 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-07-07 17:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:21 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-05 11:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-05 11:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:21 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 23:24 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 06:42 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-06 06:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 08:14 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-06 07:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 08:42 -0400
Re: "Believers" won't go to heaven. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 06:22 -0400
Re: "Believers" won't go to heaven. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 06:59 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-06 09:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-06 21:14 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 10:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 10:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:14 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 09:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 23:15 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 07:51 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:28 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-08 17:53 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:10 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-09 18:56 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.nut> - 2015-07-10 13:18 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 16:02 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 16:01 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 07:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 08:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-06 09:34 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 16:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-10 14:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-10 17:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:46 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-06 21:10 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-06 17:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-06 17:29 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-06 17:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-06 17:55 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:28 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-07-07 08:51 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-06 16:52 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-07-07 11:38 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-06 20:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 06:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 10:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-06 21:05 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-06 21:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 00:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-06 23:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 23:35 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-07 18:03 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-09 18:56 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 16:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-07 20:29 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-08 02:07 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-08 21:03 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-09 21:15 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 06:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 07:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 09:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 09:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 10:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 13:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-08 00:37 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 02:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-08 12:36 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-08 08:18 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 10:25 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 14:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 14:32 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:32 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:32 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-08 02:10 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-08 12:54 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-08 08:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 10:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-08 21:02 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-07-08 18:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-09 10:50 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-07-09 17:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-09 21:02 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-09 16:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 00:02 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 19:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-08 13:08 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-08 08:34 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-08 02:01 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:35 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 07:17 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 09:20 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 16:08 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 15:05 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-08 06:49 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 00:09 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-08 14:39 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 22:43 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-08 16:41 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-09 21:19 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 22:42 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-09 21:21 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-10 00:13 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-10 19:54 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-05 18:27 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 19:16 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:30 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:35 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-06 13:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-06 14:06 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 19:24 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-06 20:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-07-07 11:35 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 21:49 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 00:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 11:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 11:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 12:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 12:40 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 13:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 14:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-07 19:50 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 13:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-08 06:59 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 22:36 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-08 02:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-08 07:22 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-08 21:10 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-08 23:58 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-09 00:31 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 13:53 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 13:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 21:55 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-06 18:37 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 00:57 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 01:03 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 06:54 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:39 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:34 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-08 19:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 11:13 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 12:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:35 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-08 19:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:40 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-07 20:05 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:35 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-07 20:02 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:18 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 06:56 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 07:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 09:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 09:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 11:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 13:03 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 12:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 14:16 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 13:28 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 13:59 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:41 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 16:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 11:12 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 22:08 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:34 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 09:56 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:38 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 07:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 22:49 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-08 02:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:41 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-08 22:37 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-09 20:37 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-10 21:58 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-06 02:28 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 19:26 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:31 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-06 07:48 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-05 18:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-05 20:35 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-06 12:30 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-06 03:38 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-06 19:08 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-06 15:04 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HW@...(HG Wilson) - 2015-07-07 09:06 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 06:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:23 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-07 07:00 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-07 07:15 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-07 08:25 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 21:40 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-08 22:24 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:42 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-08 02:35 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-08 07:50 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-07 20:04 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:43 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-08 17:50 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:43 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:41 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 10:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2015-07-08 17:24 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 07:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-09 20:27 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-10 21:46 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-10 17:20 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-09 18:41 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-09 22:47 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.nut> - 2015-07-10 13:20 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-10 07:11 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-10 21:54 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-10 07:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-07 21:44 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-08 22:37 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-08 16:46 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-08 17:49 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-09 10:52 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-09 11:45 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-09 18:40 -0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-10 15:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-10 14:22 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-07 09:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Simoen <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-07-07 11:52 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-06 21:09 +1000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-06 05:50 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-06 08:33 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 13:51 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-05 10:44 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-30 07:09 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-25 23:11 +0200
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-26 21:52 +0000
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-26 17:37 -0500
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| From | Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 06:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <r4fnpalkoutlb09s2q3bme6pd94m5p77ql@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1937854 |
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:43:17 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: >In article <c9bmpaloqo73ukh8pg4tnusklsm834f7u6@4ax.com>, > HW@...(HG Wilson) wrote: > >> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:52:53 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >> >> >> Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a >> >> reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god >> >> character of yours, why should I believe in it? >> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> > >> > >> >I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll >> >try again: >> > >> >WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? >> >> If you are a cruel sadistic killer who loves to see people in pain you need no >> further reason. > >Well, yeah. > >But I asked why I would believe and I've never even hit a person in >anger in my life, much less done anything sadistic. (Okay, I admit a >touch of sadism, when I buy a Bday or Xmas present for my best friend, >I'll torture her with hints.) > Well, I guess you are a bit above those other creatures that don't believe in any god. The monkeys at the zoo will throw their feces at each other and at any person who agitates them a bit. You are above this level of response, I'm quite sure.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 09:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <dsnnpa1ag19n39ktvvbm1lflqojtoegl3b@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1938019 |
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 06:50:43 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:43:17 -0700, Jeanne Douglas ><hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > >>In article <c9bmpaloqo73ukh8pg4tnusklsm834f7u6@4ax.com>, >> HW@...(HG Wilson) wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:52:53 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>> >>> >> Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a >>> >> reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god >>> >> character of yours, why should I believe in it? >>> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >>> > >>> > >>> >I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll >>> >try again: >>> > >>> >WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? >>> >>> If you are a cruel sadistic killer who loves to see people in pain you need no >>> further reason. >> >>Well, yeah. >> >>But I asked why I would believe and I've never even hit a person in >>anger in my life, much less done anything sadistic. (Okay, I admit a >>touch of sadism, when I buy a Bday or Xmas present for my best friend, >>I'll torture her with hints.) >> >Well, I guess you are a bit above those other creatures that don't >believe in any god. The monkeys at the zoo will throw their feces at >each other and at any person who agitates them a bit. You are above >this level of response, I'm quite sure. too bad you arent gordo
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 10:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <cepnpalv2sig880o2k4mau7ncjsslj2jqd@4ax.com> |
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 09:18:03 -0500, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 06:50:43 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> >wrote: > >>On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:43:17 -0700, Jeanne Douglas >><hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: >> >>>In article <c9bmpaloqo73ukh8pg4tnusklsm834f7u6@4ax.com>, >>> HW@...(HG Wilson) wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:52:53 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>>> >>>> >> Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a >>>> >> reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god >>>> >> character of yours, why should I believe in it? >>>> >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. We've been explaining this to the pig-ignorant, deliberately dishonest moron for years. >>>> >I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll >>>> >try again: >>>> > >>>> >WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? >>>> >>>> If you are a cruel sadistic killer who loves to see people in pain you need no >>>> further reason. >>> >>>Well, yeah. >>> >>>But I asked why I would believe and I've never even hit a person in >>>anger in my life, much less done anything sadistic. (Okay, I admit a >>>touch of sadism, when I buy a Bday or Xmas present for my best friend, >>>I'll torture her with hints.) You won't get anything intelligent or honest from this head case. >>Well, I guess you are a bit above those other creatures that don't >>believe in any god. The monkeys at the zoo will throw their feces at >>each other and at any person who agitates them a bit. You are above >>this level of response, I'm quite sure. See what I mean? >too bad you arent gordo Christianity has its own version of George Orwell's newspeak and doublethink. It creates cognitive dissonance in its followers, to prevent their even thinking about contradictions - they believe both sides, so that when they are thinking about one, the other simply isn't there. A few seconds later when they think about the second side, the first one has vanished. This is aided by the redefinition of many everyday words, and the elimination of meanings they don't like, of others. It's a very powerful way to make people block out what Christianity doesn't want them to hear or think. They use their own redefinitions for the words you use when you try and explain things. But there is a secondary filter in the event of you getting past that one - the cognitive dissonance makes what you say, vanish. There's even a third one - the NT says the devil will use their own scripture against them.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-06 21:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <559B501C.2FCF@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1937777 |
Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: > > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: > > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. > > >>>> > > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. > > >>>> > > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my best > > >>> friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form of one. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. > > >> > > >> > > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? > > >> > > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL > > >>without any participation by god. > > >> > > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? > > >> > > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who volitionally > > > choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a very carefully > > > balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe in God if they > > > choose not to. We each make our own sovereign choice. God doesn't make > > > it for us. > > > > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a > > reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god > > character of yours, why should I believe in it? > > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll > try again: > > WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? There are a billion reasons WHY! How can you list them all? How about, "In God we trust, all others pay cash." If God borrows a dollar from you, you can trust him to pay you back. God is someone you can ...trust. He is not going to rip you off...
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-06 21:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <559B5670.29AD@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1937858 |
pnalsing@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 9:05:23 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > > > > > In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: > > > > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: > > > > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my best > > > > >>> friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form of one. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? > > > > >> > > > > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL > > > > >>without any participation by god. > > > > >> > > > > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? > > > > >> > > > > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who volitionally > > > > > choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a very carefully > > > > > balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe in God if they > > > > > choose not to. We each make our own sovereign choice. God doesn't make > > > > > it for us. > > > > > > > > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a > > > > reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god > > > > character of yours, why should I believe in it? > > > > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > > > > > I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll > > > try again: > > > > > > WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > > > > > There are a billion reasons WHY! > > > > How can you list them all? > > > > How about, "In God we trust, all others pay cash." > > > > > > If God borrows a dollar from you, you can trust him to pay you back. God > > is someone you can ...trust. > > > > > > He is not going to rip you off... > > But... she only asked for ONE, go ahead, keep Jeanne happy, give her just one... First of all, she asked the *wrong* question..."WHY should I believe in your god?" What is this "Your" business??? The only God one can believe in is ones own God. Not, Donanld Ducks God..not the Jewish people God..your own God. Problem is....people don't know what God looks like... He is sort of like a .....mind. A big thought.. Now, no one has ever seen a ...mind. Or a thought.... You cannot look at a person and see their mind...or even prove that they have one. So how can you see God?
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 00:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <b5qmpath8eggv43rer51mg3oq5sgmc9kvv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1937858 |
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> >> In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: >> > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. >> > >>>> >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my best >> > >>> friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form of one. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? >> > >> >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL >> > >>without any participation by god. >> > >> >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? >> > >> >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who volitionally >> > > choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a very carefully >> > > balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe in God if they >> > > choose not to. We each make our own sovereign choice. God doesn't make >> > > it for us. >> > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a >> > reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god >> > character of yours, why should I believe in it? >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll >> try again: >> >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > >There are a billion reasons WHY! > >How can you list them all? > >How about, "In God we trust, all others pay cash." > > >If God borrows a dollar from you, you can trust him to pay you back. God >is someone you can ...trust. > > >He is not going to rip you off... lol THAT it so fucking funny god has been ripping you off AND rippping you a new asshole for years now
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-06 23:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <559B6F7A.1D11@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1937902 |
bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Jeanne Douglas wrote: > >> > >> In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: > >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my best > >> > >>> friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form of one. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? > >> > >> > >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL > >> > >>without any participation by god. > >> > >> > >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? > >> > >> > >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who volitionally > >> > > choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a very carefully > >> > > balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe in God if they > >> > > choose not to. We each make our own sovereign choice. God doesn't make > >> > > it for us. > >> > > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a > >> > reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god > >> > character of yours, why should I believe in it? > >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > >> > >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll > >> try again: > >> > >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > > > > >There are a billion reasons WHY! > > > >How can you list them all? > > > >How about, "In God we trust, all others pay cash." > > > > > >If God borrows a dollar from you, you can trust him to pay you back. God > >is someone you can ...trust. > > > > > >He is not going to rip you off... > > lol THAT it so fucking funny > god has been ripping you off He didn't borrow any money from me?
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 23:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mnhnob$c4h$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1937858 |
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> >> In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: >> > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. >> > >>>> >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my >> > >>> best friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form >> > >>> of one. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? >> > >> >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL >> > >>without any participation by god. >> > >> >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? >> > >> >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who >> > > volitionally choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a >> > > very carefully balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe >> > > in God if they choose not to. We each make our own sovereign >> > > choice. God doesn't make it for us. >> > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given >> > me a reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this >> > supposed god character of yours, why should I believe in it? >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll >> try again: >> >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > There are a billion reasons WHY! > > How can you list them all? > > How about, "In God we trust, all others pay cash." Ha ha! A very tired very old joke. > If God borrows a dollar from you, you can trust him to pay you back. God > is someone you can ...trust. Why would I lend money to something not in evidence? Do you think I'm a fool like you? > He is not going to rip you off... Non-existent beings can't rip people off. But stupid people do give money to them. WTF does a god have a need for money? Can't it just 'miracle' some more gold into existence? -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | talishi <talishi@example.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 18:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mnhsvr1sn7@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #1938379 |
Smiler wrote: > Non-existent beings can't rip people off. > But stupid people do give money to them. > WTF does a god have a need for money? > Can't it just 'miracle' some more gold into existence? Why does God need a starship?
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-09 07:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <78pspal07tif1joh6pqv22pnhmt9u77vsh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1938414 |
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 18:03:23 -0800, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >Smiler wrote: >> Non-existent beings can't rip people off. >> But stupid people do give money to them. >> WTF does a god have a need for money? >> Can't it just 'miracle' some more gold into existence? > >Why does God need a starship? That's what Admiral Kirk asked. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | talishi <talishi@example.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-09 18:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <mnn8op7i4@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #1939150 |
duke wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 18:03:23 -0800, talishi<talishi@example.net> wrote: > >> Smiler wrote: >>> Non-existent beings can't rip people off. >>> But stupid people do give money to them. >>> WTF does a god have a need for money? >>> Can't it just 'miracle' some more gold into existence? >> >> Why does God need a starship? > > That's what Admiral Kirk asked. Duke! You're in a newsgroup. Full. Of Admiral. Kirks.
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| From | duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-10 16:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ksc0qa9t5d5btl749eiekbi1vsf7nb7daf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1939564 |
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 18:56:07 -0800, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote: >duke wrote: >> On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 18:03:23 -0800, talishi<talishi@example.net> wrote: >> >>> Smiler wrote: >>>> Non-existent beings can't rip people off. >>>> But stupid people do give money to them. >>>> WTF does a god have a need for money? >>>> Can't it just 'miracle' some more gold into existence? >>> >>> Why does God need a starship? >> >> That's what Admiral Kirk asked. > >Duke! You're in a newsgroup. Full. Of Admiral. Kirks. Admiral Kirk brought it up first. the dukester, American-American ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI *****
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 20:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <559C9928.5704@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1938379 |
Smiler wrote: > > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > >> > >> In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: > >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my > >> > >>> best friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form > >> > >>> of one. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? > >> > >> > >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL > >> > >>without any participation by god. > >> > >> > >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? > >> > >> > >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who > >> > > volitionally choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a > >> > > very carefully balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe > >> > > in God if they choose not to. We each make our own sovereign > >> > > choice. God doesn't make it for us. > >> > > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given > >> > me a reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this > >> > supposed god character of yours, why should I believe in it? > >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > >> > >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll > >> try again: > >> > >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > > > There are a billion reasons WHY! > > > > How can you list them all? > > > > How about, "In God we trust, all others pay cash." > > Ha ha! A very tired very old joke. > > > If God borrows a dollar from you, you can trust him to pay you back. God > > is someone you can ...trust. > > Why would I lend money to something not in evidence? > Do you think I'm a fool like you? > > > He is not going to rip you off... > > Non-existent beings can't rip people off. > But stupid people do give money to them. > WTF does a god have a need for money? > Can't it just 'miracle' some more gold into existence? God creating more gold wouldn't be much of a miracle for...Him. Couldn't you think of something a little more spectacular? That would be a miracle.
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| From | Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-08 02:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hlwdjsd2-E78503.02070508072015@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #1938379 |
In article <mnhnob$c4h$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > >> > >> In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: > >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: > >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. > >> > >>>> > >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my > >> > >>> best friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form > >> > >>> of one. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? > >> > >> > >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL > >> > >>without any participation by god. > >> > >> > >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? > >> > >> > >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who > >> > > volitionally choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a > >> > > very carefully balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe > >> > > in God if they choose not to. We each make our own sovereign > >> > > choice. God doesn't make it for us. > >> > > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given > >> > me a reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this > >> > supposed god character of yours, why should I believe in it? > >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > >> > >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll > >> try again: > >> > >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > > > There are a billion reasons WHY! > > > > How can you list them all? <piggybacking> I didn't ask you to list all the reasons. All I'm interested in the 3 or 4 that you think would be most effective in convincing me that you god exists. (Always remembering that assertions and beliefs DO NOT CONVINCE me.) I look forward to your list with great anticipation. -- JD Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-08 21:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <559DF28C.3EC0@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1938567 |
Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > In article <mnhnob$c4h$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > >> > > >> In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: > > >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> > > >> > >>> wrote: > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: > > >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my > > >> > >>> best friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form > > >> > >>> of one. > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? > > >> > >> > > >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL > > >> > >>without any participation by god. > > >> > >> > > >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? > > >> > >> > > >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who > > >> > > volitionally choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a > > >> > > very carefully balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe > > >> > > in God if they choose not to. We each make our own sovereign > > >> > > choice. God doesn't make it for us. > > >> > > > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given > > >> > me a reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this > > >> > supposed god character of yours, why should I believe in it? > > >> > Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > >> > > >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll > > >> try again: > > >> > > >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > > > > > > There are a billion reasons WHY! > > > > > > How can you list them all? > > <piggybacking> > > I didn't ask you to list all the reasons. All I'm interested in the 3 or > 4 that you think would be most effective in convincing me that you god > exists. (Always remembering that assertions and beliefs DO NOT CONVINCE > me.) > > I look forward to your list with great anticipation. > > -- > > JD > > Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider > evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any. You continue to repeat "convince me that your god exist". First, it is not "my God", it's your God. You don't say "OH YOUR GOD!", you say OMG "Oh, my God!!!" People don't say OYG, they say OMG. The operative word is "my". Oh, my God! my my my not your your your So, you want to be convinced that Your God exist. Do you say, "Oh your God!", or do you say "Oh, my God!!!" Of course the answer is you say "Oh, my God!!!" Now, why do you say "Oh, my God!!!" instead of "Oh your God!"? So, we're talking about your God, aren't we? The God you once believed in but for some reason you have hid Him away...deep inside of you lies Your God...He lives in your heart. I know you try to push Him away but He keeps coming back. If you look in the mirror.. you will see God. And the reflection of God that you see in the mirror is not backwards. God is not backwards. Point to the north and God points to the north. Point to the south and God points to the south. Point to the east and God points to the east. Point to the west and God points to the west. is that 3 or 4? Atheism is based on beliefs and assertions, not science. Do you want to know why God made you? For Entertainment Purposes Only. The Starmaker For some reasons i find making babies to be very entertaining.
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| From | Smiler <smiler@jo.king> |
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| Date | 2015-07-09 21:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mnmoa5$eae$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1939006 |
On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 21:03:24 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> >> In article <mnhnob$c4h$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >> wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:05:48 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: >> > >> > > Jeanne Douglas wrote: >> > >> >> > >> In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler >> > >> <smiler@jo.king> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> >> > >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: >> > >> > >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi >> > >> > >>> <talishi@example.net> >> > >> > >>> wrote: >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: >> > >> > >>>>> There's only one God almighty. >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. >> > >> > >>>> >> > >> > >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was >> > >> > >>> my best friend. He was my training manager. All three in >> > >> > >>> the form of one. >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >>In for a penny, in for a pound? >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has >> > >> > >>evolved...ALL without any participation by god. >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? >> > >> > >> >> > >> > > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who >> > >> > > volitionally choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in >> > >> > > a very carefully balanced way such that no one is impelled to >> > >> > > believe in God if they choose not to. We each make our own >> > >> > > sovereign choice. God doesn't make it for us. >> > >> > >> > >> > Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever >> > >> > given me a reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence >> > >> > for this supposed god character of yours, why should I believe >> > >> > in it? Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> > >> >> > >> I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But >> > >> I'll try again: >> > >> >> > >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? >> > > >> > > There are a billion reasons WHY! >> > > >> > > How can you list them all? >> >> <piggybacking> >> >> I didn't ask you to list all the reasons. All I'm interested in the 3 >> or 4 that you think would be most effective in convincing me that you >> god exists. (Always remembering that assertions and beliefs DO NOT >> CONVINCE me.) >> >> I look forward to your list with great anticipation. >> >> -- >> >> JD >> >> Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider evidence, not >> the willingness to accept claims without any. > > You continue to repeat "convince me that your god exist". > > > First, it is not "my God", it's your God. Nope. I have no god(s). > You don't say "OH YOUR GOD!", you say OMG "Oh, my God!!!" I say neither. <snip> > The God you once believed in I've never believed in any god. I remain as atheist as every baby is since birth. > but for some reason you have hid Him > away...deep inside of you lies Your God...He lives in your heart. The only things that live in my heart are blood cells. > I know you try to push Him away but He keeps coming back. Just like you keep pushing leprechauns away, but they keep coming back. > If you look in the mirror.. you will see God. > > And the reflection of God that you see in the mirror is not backwards. > > God is not backwards. Only its believers are. > Atheism is based on beliefs and assertions, not science. What beliefs would they be? > Do you want to know why God made you? No god made me, my parents did. > For some reasons i find making babies to be very entertaining. So did my parents and so do I. ;-) -- Smiler, The godless one. aa #2279 Gods are all tailored to order. They are made to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.
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| From | Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 06:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <51fnpa9irin6dde3s8s5mplp4r3nmtgvpn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1937777 |
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:52:53 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: >In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >wrote: > >> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: >> >>>>> There's only one God almighty. >> >>>> >> >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. >> >>>> >> >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my best >> >>> friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form of one. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. >> >> >> >> >> >>In for a penny, in for a pound? >> >> >> >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL >> >>without any participation by god. >> >> >> >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? >> >> >> > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who volitionally >> > choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a very carefully >> > balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe in God if they >> > choose not to. We each make our own sovereign choice. God doesn't make >> > it for us. >> >> Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a >> reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god >> character of yours, why should I believe in it? >> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. > > >I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll >try again: > >WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? > Because there is no other rational explanation as to how the multiverse/universe and all life forms came into existence. Random chance falls WAY short.
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| From | Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 07:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <j5fnpad5qfr0if179ui5f2v4vak69edbq7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1938017 |
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 06:47:54 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> wrote: >On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:52:53 -0700, Jeanne Douglas ><hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > >>In article <mneqsl$29j$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> >>wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0500, Gordon wrote: >>> >>> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:42:19 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>On 7/5/2015 11:01 AM, Gordon wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:59:16 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 07/05/2015 06:10 AM, duke wrote: >>> >>>>> There's only one God almighty. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> But you have no problem believing in a Triune God. >>> >>>> >>> >>> My father was also a triune person. He was my father. He was my best >>> >>> friend. He was my training manager. All three in the form of one. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> All three function as and indeed are one entity. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>In for a penny, in for a pound? >>> >> >>> >>The funny part is how human understanding of god has evolved...ALL >>> >>without any participation by god. >>> >> >>> >>God remains aloof. Almost as if he wasn't there at all, eh? >>> >> >>> > Yes, and His reason is to make it possible for those who volitionally >>> > choose to do so to reject Him. This is set up in a very carefully >>> > balanced way such that no one is impelled to believe in God if they >>> > choose not to. We each make our own sovereign choice. God doesn't make >>> > it for us. >>> >>> Sorry, moron, but I never CHOSE not to believe. Nobody has ever given me a >>> reason to believe. Until you provide some evidence for this supposed god >>> character of yours, why should I believe in it? >>> Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence. >> >> >>I keep asking this question and have never gotten an answer. But I'll >>try again: >> >>WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? >> >Because there is no other rational explanation as to how the >multiverse/universe and all life forms came into existence. Even more pathetic than usual. Why do you pretend you haven't been given a layman's outline - and even if your brainwashing prevents your accepting it, the explanation is still there. You are being your usual dishonest, mind-numbingly stupid, pig-ignorant, in-your-face asshole self, expecting your argument from personal ignorance and personal incredulity to be taken seriously. One of these days, you might stop embarrassing yourself, but we won't hold our breath waiting. >Random chance falls WAY short. Nobody ever said it was random chance, imbecile. You morons should at least _try_ to understand what you bullshit about to the more knowledgeable who live in the real world.
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| From | HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 09:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mngl7r$91q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1938017 |
On 7/7/2015 7:47 AM, Gordon wrote: > >> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? >> > Because there is no other rational explanation as to how the > multiverse/universe and all life forms came into existence. Random > chance falls WAY short. Surprisingly Gordon, I agree with most of that. There is NO rational explanation as to how the universe came to be. It is beyond our present understanding of physics, and may ALWAYS be. But this is where we part company. I am happy to continue searching for answers and you are happy claiming that a lack of knowledge is some sort of evidence for god. It is a willful lie some people tell themselves because that's what they are supposed to believe. I was raised catholic. Hard core catholic. On the wall near our front door were three pictures. Jesus, Pope John the 23rd and JFK. (I just didn't know what order they were in). I attended a Jesuit/catholic school where they made the mistake of teaching me to think. In 2nd grade I got rapped off the head for asking where Noah put all the dinosaurs. It was downhill from there on. In 6th grade we has a batshit crazy nun who told us about missionary work she did in S. America. She claimed she saw some possessed kid breathing fire. Another non-starter was her story of a kid who 'had no gravity to him'. She said he would just float away until they wisely put ball bearings in his shoe heels. ...She was my favorite nun. -- Cut off one head, two more shall take its place. HAIL HYDRA! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224
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| From | Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-07 09:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vfonpa5i0vnvof9j7eadsf2a04dd9q79ie@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1938085 |
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 09:48:13 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote: >On 7/7/2015 7:47 AM, Gordon wrote: >> >>> WHY should I believe in your god, Gordon? What REASON? >>> >> Because there is no other rational explanation as to how the >> multiverse/universe and all life forms came into existence. Random >> chance falls WAY short. > > >Surprisingly Gordon, I agree with most of that. > >There is NO rational explanation as to how the universe came to be. >It is beyond our present understanding of physics, and may ALWAYS be. > >But this is where we part company. I am happy to continue searching for >answers and you are happy claiming that a lack of knowledge is some sort >of evidence for god. > Same, here, but I have reached the firm conclusion that there is some form of cosmic intelligence involved and I call that cosmic intelligence, God. As a way of conceptualizing this, I think of all the sub-atomic particles in the multiverse being linked together by something like quantum entanglements. These entanglements function as do the synapses in our brain. This is the mind of God. Please keep in mind that this is just a prognosis or guess on my part but it does seem possible and if it is true this would explain all that we are still questioning about. > >It is a willful lie some people tell themselves because that's what they >are supposed to believe. I was raised catholic. Hard core catholic. >On the wall near our front door were three pictures. Jesus, Pope John >the 23rd and JFK. (I just didn't know what order they were in). > >I attended a Jesuit/catholic school where they made the mistake of >teaching me to think. In 2nd grade I got rapped off the head for asking >where Noah put all the dinosaurs. > The story of Noah and his arc is an allegory that provides means for conveying some useful embedded information. Most importantly, it was and still is such as can be told and re-told among people of all levels of education and basic understanding and the embedded information is not lost. > >It was downhill from there on. > >In 6th grade we has a batshit crazy nun who told us about missionary >work she did in S. America. She claimed she saw some possessed kid >breathing fire. Another non-starter was her story of a kid who 'had no >gravity to him'. She said he would just float away until they wisely put >ball bearings in his shoe heels. > >...She was my favorite nun. > Yeah, I've encountered people like this but I don't blame them. I realize that not all people, religious or non-religious, are of firm mind. I can understand how some such as you mention may have this kind of mental image...sort of like a dream at night but it doesn't stop when the person wakes up.
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