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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-28 08:44 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-28 17:25 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-28 16:18 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-28 18:26 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-28 20:59 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-29 07:02 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:11 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 08:40 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-29 20:52 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 07:30 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-30 09:12 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:45 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 12:26 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-30 12:36 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-30 15:06 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 15:22 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 18:13 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-30 20:18 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-01 06:53 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-01 08:53 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:35 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-01 19:49 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-01 15:45 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-02 20:30 +0000
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-03 16:20 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 22:28 +0000
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-04 08:45 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-04 20:12 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 10:56 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:44 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:17 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:30 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:35 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 10:45 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:34 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-07-01 19:45 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-01 19:08 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-07-01 21:10 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-02 11:57 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-07-03 07:20 +1000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 06:40 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 13:21 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 13:52 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 12:30 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-02 12:40 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 12:47 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-02 13:35 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 14:29 -0400
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 14:28 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kit <kitwax@netzero.com> - 2015-07-02 12:32 -0700
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 14:46 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kit <kitwax@netzero.com> - 2015-07-02 13:16 -0700
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-02 16:39 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-02 21:09 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 00:10 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Kit <kitwax@netzero.com> - 2015-07-03 00:34 -0700
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 20:12 +0000
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-02 14:48 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 05:32 -0400
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-03 07:42 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-03 09:25 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-03 11:47 -0500
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 20:23 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 16:54 -0400
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-03 16:09 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 22:09 +0000
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-03 16:07 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-03 16:09 -0500
                                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-03 22:24 +0000
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 11:59 -0400
                                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 16:43 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:32 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-06-30 15:02 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-30 15:25 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:33 +0000
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:05 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:43 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:20 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2015-06-30 17:33 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:29 +0000
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-30 15:53 +0200
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:36 +0000
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:37 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-06-29 07:04 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 08:13 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-29 08:41 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-29 17:10 -0500
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-29 17:12 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-29 17:46 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 05:19 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 03:59 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 07:29 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 15:46 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 09:09 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 11:57 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:21 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-07-02 18:30 +0200
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 13:54 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-07-01 15:38 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-30 23:46 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-30 23:55 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-07-01 19:58 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-01 15:47 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-07-01 19:36 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-30 11:54 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 19:05 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net> - 2015-07-01 06:58 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-07-01 08:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-01 19:11 -0700
                          Re: "Gordon" loves the false "freedom" of fiction, that's all. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 00:13 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:37 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-30 11:51 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 09:11 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:39 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 14:23 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-03 16:17 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 12:03 -0400
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 08:23 -0500
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 06:38 -0400
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-07-06 10:25 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-06 14:01 -0500
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 05:10 -0400
                                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-07 07:49 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 15:07 -0400
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-30 11:51 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-30 19:06 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-30 20:59 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:40 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-01 11:40 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-01 18:41 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-03 16:18 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-03 14:54 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-04 08:43 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-07-04 09:26 -0700
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-07-05 08:24 -0500
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-05 08:02 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Vincent Maycock <vam100@aol.com> - 2015-06-30 12:42 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-29 17:10 -0500

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#1934683

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-06-30 23:55 -0700
Message-ID<55938EF5.445D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1934558
Smiler wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:29:52 -0400, HVAC wrote:
> 
> > On 6/30/2015 6:59 AM, talishi wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> Believe in god or spend an eternity burning in flame.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he
> >>>> that believeth not shall be damned.
> >>>>
> >>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
> >>
> >> That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man has
> >> ever seen God".  We then offer numerous scriptures where God talks to
> >> Abram or Moses face to face, then Duke says the scripture is in error.
> >> Which, by the way, is perfectly fine by us!
> >
> > All kooks lie. But they are lying to themselves. When they get to a
> > logical contradiction, they shut down the thinking part of their brain.
> 
> What 'thinking part of their brain'?
> 
> > The reason? Because their entire belief system is a house of cards.
> >
> > If they start actually THINKING, the house will collapse.
> >
> > This goes for not only god freaks, but for believers in any paranormal
> > shit. ESP, ghosts, aliens...All are bullshit. All built on a house of
> > cards.
> 
> I can consider the possible existence of extraterrestrial aliens.
> That any have visited this planet is where the bullshit starts.


What makes you think you're not a vistor on this planet? The way you'all are acting is, as if...
you were put here by...mistake. 

Someone made a mistake...and you got here. You don't belong here.


And nobody is going to come here and take you back.


The ship is not coming..

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#1934926

FromSmiler <smiler@jo.king>
Date2015-07-01 19:58 +0000
Message-ID<mn1goa$q1r$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#1934683
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:55:49 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Smiler wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:29:52 -0400, HVAC wrote:
>> 
>> > On 6/30/2015 6:59 AM, talishi wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>>> Believe in god or spend an eternity burning in flame.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
>> >>>> he that believeth not shall be damned.
>> >>>>
>> >>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
>> >>
>> >> That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man
>> >> has ever seen God".  We then offer numerous scriptures where God
>> >> talks to Abram or Moses face to face, then Duke says the scripture
>> >> is in error. Which, by the way, is perfectly fine by us!
>> >
>> > All kooks lie. But they are lying to themselves. When they get to a
>> > logical contradiction, they shut down the thinking part of their
>> > brain.
>> 
>> What 'thinking part of their brain'?
>> 
>> > The reason? Because their entire belief system is a house of cards.
>> >
>> > If they start actually THINKING, the house will collapse.
>> >
>> > This goes for not only god freaks, but for believers in any
>> > paranormal shit. ESP, ghosts, aliens...All are bullshit. All built on
>> > a house of cards.
>> 
>> I can consider the possible existence of extraterrestrial aliens.
>> That any have visited this planet is where the bullshit starts.
> 
> 
> What makes you think you're not a vistor on this planet? 

What makes you think you are?

> The way you'all are acting is, as if...
> you were put here by...mistake.

What mistake would that be?
 
> Someone made a mistake...and you got here. You don't belong here.

Merely your worthless opinion.
 
> And nobody is going to come here and take you back.
> 
> The ship is not coming..

But the shit keeps coming from you.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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#1934957

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-01 15:47 -0500
Message-ID<4dk8pa173jomemfmurdffjl62ks99nt4od@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934926
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 19:58:02 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smiler@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:55:49 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
>
>> Smiler wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:29:52 -0400, HVAC wrote:
>>> 
>>> > On 6/30/2015 6:59 AM, talishi wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> Believe in god or spend an eternity burning in flame.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
>>> >>>> he that believeth not shall be damned.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
>>> >>
>>> >> That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man
>>> >> has ever seen God".  We then offer numerous scriptures where God
>>> >> talks to Abram or Moses face to face, then Duke says the scripture
>>> >> is in error. Which, by the way, is perfectly fine by us!
>>> >
>>> > All kooks lie. But they are lying to themselves. When they get to a
>>> > logical contradiction, they shut down the thinking part of their
>>> > brain.
>>> 
>>> What 'thinking part of their brain'?
>>> 
>>> > The reason? Because their entire belief system is a house of cards.
>>> >
>>> > If they start actually THINKING, the house will collapse.
>>> >
>>> > This goes for not only god freaks, but for believers in any
>>> > paranormal shit. ESP, ghosts, aliens...All are bullshit. All built on
>>> > a house of cards.
>>> 
>>> I can consider the possible existence of extraterrestrial aliens.
>>> That any have visited this planet is where the bullshit starts.
>> 
>> 
>> What makes you think you're not a vistor on this planet? 
>
>What makes you think you are?
>
>> The way you'all are acting is, as if...
>> you were put here by...mistake.
>
>What mistake would that be?
> 
>> Someone made a mistake...and you got here. You don't belong here.
>
>Merely your worthless opinion.
> 
>> And nobody is going to come here and take you back.
>> 
>> The ship is not coming..
>
>But the shit keeps coming from you.


smiler what else would you expect from a shit for brains that has a
religon and a god that has shit for proof

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#1935102

FromJeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com>
Date2015-07-01 19:36 -0700
Message-ID<hlwdjsd2-424701.19360301072015@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#1934926
In article <mn1goa$q1r$2@speranza.aioe.org>, Smiler <smiler@jo.king> 
wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:55:49 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Smiler wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:29:52 -0400, HVAC wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On 6/30/2015 6:59 AM, talishi wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>> Believe in god or spend an eternity burning in flame.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but
> >> >>>> he that believeth not shall be damned.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
> >> >>
> >> >> That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man
> >> >> has ever seen God".  We then offer numerous scriptures where God
> >> >> talks to Abram or Moses face to face, then Duke says the scripture
> >> >> is in error. Which, by the way, is perfectly fine by us!
> >> >
> >> > All kooks lie. But they are lying to themselves. When they get to a
> >> > logical contradiction, they shut down the thinking part of their
> >> > brain.
> >> 
> >> What 'thinking part of their brain'?
> >> 
> >> > The reason? Because their entire belief system is a house of cards.
> >> >
> >> > If they start actually THINKING, the house will collapse.
> >> >
> >> > This goes for not only god freaks, but for believers in any
> >> > paranormal shit. ESP, ghosts, aliens...All are bullshit. All built on
> >> > a house of cards.
> >> 
> >> I can consider the possible existence of extraterrestrial aliens.
> >> That any have visited this planet is where the bullshit starts.
> > 
> > 
> > What makes you think you're not a vistor on this planet? 
> 
> What makes you think you are?
> 
> > The way you'all are acting is, as if...
> > you were put here by...mistake.
> 
> What mistake would that be?
>  
> > Someone made a mistake...and you got here. You don't belong here.
> 
> Merely your worthless opinion.
>  
> > And nobody is going to come here and take you back.
> > 
> > The ship is not coming..

<piggybacking>

What ship?



> But the shit keeps coming from you.

-- 

JD

Being open-minded is merely the willingness to consider
evidence, not the willingness to accept claims without any.

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#1934371

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-30 11:54 -0500
Message-ID<h9i5pa1gjo693kjh0uitnvtqp7dbhv5cbc@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934204
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:59:22 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/30/2015 02:19 AM, HVAC wrote:
>> On 6/29/2015 8:46 PM, talishi wrote:
>>> On 06/29/2015 03:12 PM, duke wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:09:43 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Believe in god or spend an eternity burning in flame.
>>>>
>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>>>
>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
>>> believeth not shall be damned.
>>>
>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
>
>That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man has 
>ever seen God". 

That's a direct quote from scripture.

John 1:18New International Version (NIV)
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a]
is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

> We then offer numerous scriptures where God talks to 
>Abram or Moses face to face, then Duke says the scripture is in error. 
>Which, by the way, is perfectly fine by us!

Genesis says that moses spoke to an angel in the burning bush.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1934608

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-30 19:05 -0700
Message-ID<mmvhu71vri@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1934371
On 06/30/2015 09:54 AM, duke wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:59:22 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>
>> >That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man has
>> >ever seen God".
> That's a direct quote from scripture.
>
> John 1:18New International Version (NIV)
> 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a]
> is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
>

That's what makes it so cool, the Bible contradicts itself!

Exodus 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not 
his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

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#1934737

FromGordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
Date2015-07-01 06:58 -0500
Message-ID<n7l7palb87ev2vh0326s2gn47dq7cocncd@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934608
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:05:00 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
wrote:

>On 06/30/2015 09:54 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:59:22 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man has
>>> >ever seen God".
>> That's a direct quote from scripture.
>>
>> John 1:18New International Version (NIV)
>> 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a]
>> is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
>>
>
>That's what makes it so cool, the Bible contradicts itself!
>
>Exodus 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not 
>his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
>
The word "saw" can have many different connotations. In our current
language it can mean a visual interaction or a mental image
interaction.

I saw that you were having trouble understanding this so I posted this
above information in the hopes that you might see what it is all
about.

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#1934763

FromChristopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net>
Date2015-07-01 08:55 -0500
Message-ID<m6s7pahff03vttl3hk7mdre0iiuj1nld0u@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934737
On Wed, 01 Jul 2015 06:58:01 -0500, Gordon <gordonlr@swbell.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:05:00 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 06/30/2015 09:54 AM, duke wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:59:22 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> >That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man has
>>>> >ever seen God".
>>> That's a direct quote from scripture.
>>>
>>> John 1:18New International Version (NIV)
>>> 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a]
>>> is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
>>>
>>
>>That's what makes it so cool, the Bible contradicts itself!
>>
>>Exodus 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not 
>>his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
>>
>The word "saw" can have many different connotations. In our current
>language it can mean a visual interaction or a mental image
>interaction.

It's a metaphor, imbecile. Not toi memtion a dishonest attempt at
rationalisaion on your part.

>I saw that you were having trouble understanding 

Liar.

>                                                                                this so I posted this
>above information 

Liar.

>                              in the hopes that you might see what it is all
>about.

Liar.

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#1935097

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-07-01 19:11 -0700
Message-ID<mn26l121s6q@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1934737
On 07/01/2015 04:58 AM, Gordon wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:05:00 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>
> wrote:
>
>> >On 06/30/2015 09:54 AM, duke wrote:
>>> >>On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:59:22 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>   wrote:
>>> >>
>>>>> >>> >That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man has
>>>>> >>> >ever seen God".
>>> >>That's a direct quote from scripture.
>>> >>
>>> >>John 1:18New International Version (NIV)
>>> >>18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a]
>>> >>is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
>>> >>
>> >
>> >That's what makes it so cool, the Bible contradicts itself!
>> >
>> >Exodus 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not
>> >his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
>> >
> The word "saw" can have many different connotations. In our current
> language it can mean a visual interaction or a mental image
> interaction.

Ahh.  Sort of like the mental auditory interaction you claim by saying 
"God told me this and that."   And this is the source for your Adam and 
Eve story that underpins the necessity of a "savior".

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#1935132 — Re: "Gordon" loves the false "freedom" of fiction, that's all.

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-02 00:13 -0400
SubjectRe: "Gordon" loves the false "freedom" of fiction, that's all.
Message-ID<bU2lx.88225$OU5.49052@fx08.iad>
In reply to#1935097
On 07/01/2015 11:21 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
> "Gordon" loves the false "freedom" of fiction, that's all.
>
> But, when you can't distinguish facts from fiction,
> you're fucked.
>
> Only a child_like fool would believe
> the Adam and Eve story was anything but
> a simple_minded explanation for why kids
> have to grow up and breed "as the gods".
>
> It's a story, like a TV show, not a fact.
> As stories go, it's not even a good one.

It's a better seller than any TV show or movie.
Rolf are you ever going to grow a brain?

You can start by looking up the word allegory. God, Libs are dense!
(But they all think they are so smart!)

-- 
         ___           ___           ___            ___
        /\  \         /\  \         /\__\          /\  \
       /::\  \       /::\  \       /::|  |         \:\  \
      /:/\:\  \     /:/\:\  \     /:|:|  |     ___ /::\__\
     /::\~\:\__\   /::\~\:\  \   /:/|:|  |__  /\  /:/\/__/
    /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/  /
    \:\~\:\/:/  / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/  /  \::/  /
     \:\ \::/  /   \:\ \:\__\       |:/:/  /    \/__/
      \:\/:/  /     \:\ \/__/       |::/  /
       \_:/__/       \:\__\         /:/  /
                      \/__/         \/__/

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#1934849

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-01 11:37 -0500
Message-ID<nn58pal6odsce2h6smtm7pas0f0cjdgkk5@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934608
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:05:00 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>On 06/30/2015 09:54 AM, duke wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:59:22 -0700, talishi<talishi@example.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> >That's the Duke Dodge, HVAC.  He stakes out something like, "No man has
>>> >ever seen God".
>> That's a direct quote from scripture.
>>
>> John 1:18New International Version (NIV)
>> 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and[a]
>> is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

>That's what makes it so cool, the Bible contradicts itself!

NOt in the spiritual message, which is without error by God.   Now the physical
details made up by man to form the story around God's input, then that may be
full of contradictions

>Exodus 24:11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not 
>his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

God never hurt a hair on anyone's head.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1934368

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-30 11:51 -0500
Message-ID<v7i5padfd251hog2ahuhp9jsvv8vltfac4@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934166
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:19:40 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/29/2015 8:46 PM, talishi wrote:
>> On 06/29/2015 03:12 PM, duke wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:09:43 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Believe in god or spend an eternity burning in flame.
>>>
>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>>
>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
>> believeth not shall be damned.

>Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?

I don't think so.  

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1934751

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-01 09:11 -0400
Message-ID<mn0or7$faq$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1934368
On 6/30/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>>>
>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
>>> believeth not shall be damned.
>
>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
>
> I don't think so.


Well, it's either that or YOU lied Duke.


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1934850

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-01 11:39 -0500
Message-ID<4s58pa9e1h5otv81k1g2enjitu71ep9paj@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934751
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 09:11:44 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/30/2015 12:51 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>>>>
>>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
>>>> believeth not shall be damned.
>>
>>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
>>
>> I don't think so.
>
>
>Well, it's either that or YOU lied Duke.

Nope, neither.  The saved Jews were never baptized.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1934895

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-01 14:23 -0400
Message-ID<mn1b52$cc1$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1934850
On 7/1/2015 12:39 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
>>>>> believeth not shall be damned.
>>>
>>>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
>>>
>>> I don't think so.
>>
>>
>> Well, it's either that or YOU lied Duke.
>
> Nope, neither.  The saved Jews were never baptized.


"Curiouser and curiouser"  -Alice


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1935964

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-03 16:17 -0500
Message-ID<ptudpa9a1lbvmd86mik15bkd4jb79fv2l4@4ax.com>
In reply to#1934895
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 14:23:54 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/1/2015 12:39 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> It says "follow", not believe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
>>>>>> believeth not shall be damned.
>>>>
>>>>> Ummmmmm, Mark was misquoted?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it's either that or YOU lied Duke.
>>
>> Nope, neither.  The saved Jews were never baptized.

>"Curiouser and curiouser"  -Alice

For Jews, it was righteousness.  What are you?

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1936527

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-04 12:03 -0400
Message-ID<mn8vvq$o9q$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1935964
On 7/3/2015 5:17 PM, duke wrote:
>
>>>> Well, it's either that or YOU lied Duke.
>>>
>>> Nope, neither.  The saved Jews were never baptized.
>
>> "Curiouser and curiouser"  -Alice
>
> For Jews, it was righteousness.  What are you?


Playboy, philanthropist, philosopher, soothsayer.

...And all around great guy


-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1936935

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-07-05 08:23 -0500
Message-ID<2vbipa183evenn7snbcfsbdpom35gh6b92@4ax.com>
In reply to#1936527
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 12:03:16 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/3/2015 5:17 PM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>>> Well, it's either that or YOU lied Duke.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, neither.  The saved Jews were never baptized.
>>
>>> "Curiouser and curiouser"  -Alice
>>
>> For Jews, it was righteousness.  What are you?
>
>
>Playboy, philanthropist, philosopher, soothsayer.
>
>...And all around great guy

That's not what I heard.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1937446

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-06 06:38 -0400
Message-ID<mndln8$vnu$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1936935
On 7/5/2015 9:23 AM, duke wrote:
>
>>> For Jews, it was righteousness.  What are you?
>>
>>
>> Playboy, philanthropist, philosopher, soothsayer.
>>
>> ...And all around great guy
>
> That's not what I heard.


Well, since you hear voices in your head, what you 'heard' is debatable.




-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1937522

Frombilgat@m.nu
Date2015-07-06 10:25 -0500
Message-ID<be7lpaljnt0ofr15cefcc0i9k50hcuv3oi@4ax.com>
In reply to#1937446
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:38:04 -0400, HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/5/2015 9:23 AM, duke wrote:
>>
>>>> For Jews, it was righteousness.  What are you?
>>>
>>>
>>> Playboy, philanthropist, philosopher, soothsayer.
>>>
>>> ...And all around great guy
>>
>> That's not what I heard.
>
>
>Well, since you hear voices in your head, what you 'heard' is debatable.

He hears thing in her heart as well, damn thing grew some ears or
something....

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