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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:05 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:08 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:52 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 06:08 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 10:25 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:25 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-03 18:16 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 03:58 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:33 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-03 17:29 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:48 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:14 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:52 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:58 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:35 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:08 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:09 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 08:42 -0400
                        For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:12 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:21 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:53 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 11:06 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:50 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:17 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:30 +0200
                      Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:02 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:37 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-04 03:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:55 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:47 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:53 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-06 20:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:12 +0200
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 06:53 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:02 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:01 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:54 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:52 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:27 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:22 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:54 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-07 18:10 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 18:57 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:30 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 17:07 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-05 22:28 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:54 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:14 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:15 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:03 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:40 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:35 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 21:32 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:34 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:26 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:34 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:59 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:35 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:56 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:52 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 20:01 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:56 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:06 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-04 12:53 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:35 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:03 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:39 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 13:26 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 04:42 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:18 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:04 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:56 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:15 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 19:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 13:39 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 05:58 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:07 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-05 17:46 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:05 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:58 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:45 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:00 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:19 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:20 -0500
                                Earl Weber lies. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 12:04 -0400
                                  Re: Earl Weber lies. Mike Painter <md.painter@outlook.com> - 2015-06-07 12:25 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:48 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:38 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:04 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:21 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:01 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:44 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:00 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-03 17:31 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-03 16:41 -0500

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From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-07 17:35 -0500
Message-ID	<moh9nato3eclu95r8m4er69hob661mjm7v@4ax.com>
In reply to	#1919612

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:40:05 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:q8n8na94vc7ond2t73dvjiqabpidga6ifu@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:15:24 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >news:ed96nahgf7japo9btft2glo2vnlkaoqmd5@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >(snip)
>> >
>> >> If you are an atheist wannabe, that's exactly what you do.
>> >
>> >What's an "atheist wannabe"? Somebody who's trying to give up his belief 
>> >in
>> >a god?
>>
>> One who is really only an agnostic.   No man can say "there is NO God". 
>> All he
>> can say is that he is not convinced by the evidence.
>
>There is no evidence, and that's why I don't believe there are any gods. 
>Called it whatever you want, but stop telling me what I believe.

2.2 billion people alive and well today see the evidence.

the dukester, American-American

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#1919971

From	"Tim" <me@rsabc.com>
Date	2015-06-07 21:32 -0400
Message-ID	<ml2rc8$7v1$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to	#1919718


"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message 
news:moh9nato3eclu95r8m4er69hob661mjm7v@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:40:05 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
> wrote:
>
>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>news:q8n8na94vc7ond2t73dvjiqabpidga6ifu@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:15:24 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>> >news:ed96nahgf7japo9btft2glo2vnlkaoqmd5@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >(snip)
>>> >
>>> >> If you are an atheist wannabe, that's exactly what you do.
>>> >
>>> >What's an "atheist wannabe"? Somebody who's trying to give up his 
>>> >belief
>>> >in
>>> >a god?
>>>
>>> One who is really only an agnostic.   No man can say "there is NO God".
>>> All he
>>> can say is that he is not convinced by the evidence.
>>
>>There is no evidence, and that's why I don't believe there are any gods.
>>Called it whatever you want, but stop telling me what I believe.
>
> 2.2 billion people alive and well today see the evidence.

No, they follow a faith, what they take to be as evidence isn't evidence.

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#1919715

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-07 17:34 -0500
Message-ID	<1oh9natbjpjajese9hjdd2jb9lk50c0c6v@4ax.com>
In reply to	#1919151

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:15:24 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:ed96nahgf7japo9btft2glo2vnlkaoqmd5@4ax.com...
>
>(snip)
>
>> If you are an atheist wannabe, that's exactly what you do.
>
>What's an "atheist wannabe"? Somebody who's trying to give up his belief in 
>a god?

Just told you.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1919796

From	talishi <talishi@example.net>
Date	2015-06-07 16:26 -0700
Message-ID	<ml2k0u5ea0@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#1919715

duke wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 13:15:24 +0200, "Malte Runz"<malte_runz@forgitit.dk>  wrote:
>
>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >news:ed96nahgf7japo9btft2glo2vnlkaoqmd5@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >(snip)
>> >
>>> >>If you are an atheist wannabe, that's exactly what you do.
>> >
>> >What's an "atheist wannabe"? Somebody who's trying to give up his belief in
>> >a god?
> Just told you.

Bruce Jenner is a Madonna Wannabe, Duke.  That means he wants to be 
Madonna, but he ain't.  So an atheist wannabe wants to be atheist, but 
they aren't.   So that's your side of the room.

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#1917209

From	talishi <talishi@example.net>
Date	2015-06-04 18:34 -0700
Message-ID	<mkquc902jvv@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#1916984

The Starmaker wrote:
> talishi wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> talishi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
>>>>> scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
>>>>> Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
>>>>> infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
>>>
>>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>> who are the bad people.
>>
>> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?
>
> Where did you get this "word of God" business from?

John 10:

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#1917317

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-06-04 21:19 -0700
Message-ID	<5571235B.43F6@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#1917209

talishi wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > talishi wrote:
> >>
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> talishi wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>>>> Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
> >>>>> scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
> >>>>> Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
> >>>>> infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
> >>>
> >>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
> >>> who are the bad people.
> >>
> >> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?
> >
> > Where did you get this "word of God" business from?
> 
> John 10:


But that isn't the bible..

the bible is the old testament..

the new testament is another book.

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#1917824

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-05 15:59 -0500
Message-ID	<4c34na55eidjqmabmhdusbmp18e8th33er@4ax.com>
In reply to	#1917317

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 21:19:39 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>talishi wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> > talishi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> talishi wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
>> >>>>> scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
>> >>>>> Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
>> >>>>> infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
>> >>>
>> >>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>> >>> who are the bad people.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?
>> >
>> > Where did you get this "word of God" business from?
>> 
>> John 10:
>
>
>But that isn't the bible..
>the bible is the old testament..

No wonder this idiot is so lost.

>the new testament is another book.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#1917210

From	talishi <talishi@example.net>
Date	2015-06-04 18:35 -0700
Message-ID	<mkqudn12jvv@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#1916984

The Starmaker wrote:
> talishi wrote:
>> >
>> >The Starmaker wrote:
>>> > >talishi wrote:
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>> > >>> > >Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
>>>>> > >> >scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
>>>>> > >> >Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
>>>>> > >> >infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
>>> > >
>>> > >You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>> > >who are the bad people.
>> >
>> >Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?
>
> Where did you get this "word of God" business from?

John 10:

[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are 
gods?

[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the 
scripture cannot be broken;

[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the 
world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

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#1917821

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-05 15:56 -0500
Message-ID	<m534na1lah7ggain5vhte8l165j817tv8k@4ax.com>
In reply to	#1916984

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:30:06 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>talishi wrote:
>> 
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> > talishi wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > >Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>> >> >
>> >> >We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
>> >> >scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
>> >> >Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
>> >> >infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
>> >
>> > You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>> > who are the bad people.
>> 
>> Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   
>
>
>Where did you get this "word of God" business from?

God circles.

>There is no one that 'actually' believes the bible is the word of
>God....

The spiritual word in the bible absolutely is.   The physical actions may not
be.

>this is the year 2015, not 9BC.
>You atheists are a little behind times...get wit the program.

Yes, you atheists should.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1916260

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-03 10:52 -0500
Message-ID	<5h8umatppbc7mf9irqf125brkrc2vn9nja@4ax.com>
In reply to	#1915916

On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:05:17 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>
>We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  

Wrong, you and your feet reject the existence of God.  An agnostic questions the
evidence, and hence doesn't believe.

>But the god painted by the 
>scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the 
>Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and 
>infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

That's what a goatherder said he thought God said.  No man has ever seen God.

But said actions is clearly a forerunner of the fires of hell for the sinner,
like you are.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1916339

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-03 20:01 +0200
Message-ID	<556f40e9$0$23210$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#1916260

"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:5h8umatppbc7mf9irqf125brkrc2vn9nja@4ax.com...

(snip)

> But said actions is clearly a forerunner of the fires of hell for the 
> sinner,
> like you are.

'Threat of Hell' noticed. You can't help it, can you.

-- 
Malte Runz

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#1916363

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-03 13:32 -0500
Message-ID	<m0iumadif71skn9p5shfvt6emk25h51adm@4ax.com>
In reply to	#1916339

On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:01:15 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:5h8umatppbc7mf9irqf125brkrc2vn9nja@4ax.com...
>
>(snip)
>
>> But said actions is clearly a forerunner of the fires of hell for the 
>> sinner,
>> like you are.
>
>'Threat of Hell' noticed. You can't help it, can you.

It's your decision, nobody but your's.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

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#1916467

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-03 23:56 +0200
Message-ID	<556f77f8$0$23225$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#1916363

"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:m0iumadif71skn9p5shfvt6emk25h51adm@4ax.com...
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:01:15 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
> wrote:
>
> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:5h8umatppbc7mf9irqf125brkrc2vn9nja@4ax.com...
> >
> >(snip)
> >
> >> But said actions is clearly a forerunner of the fires of hell for the
> >> sinner,
> >> like you are.
> >
> >'Threat of Hell' noticed. You can't help it, can you.
>
> It's your decision, nobody but your's.

It is God's decision to send me to Hell. God has the power to save me from 
eternal torture. He chooses not to, and you call that love.


-- 
Malte Runz

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#1916568

From	talishi <talishi@example.net>
Date	2015-06-03 18:06 -0700
Message-ID	<mko88u21iop@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#1916467

Malte Runz wrote:
>
> It is God's decision to send me to Hell. God has the power to save me
> from eternal torture.

That's an odd way of looking at it, since he's the one who actively does 
the eternal torture.

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#1916777

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-04 12:53 +0200
Message-ID	<55702e35$0$23228$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#1916568

"talishi"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mko88u21iop@news3.newsguy.com...
>
> Malte Runz wrote:
> >
> > It is God's decision to send me to Hell. God has the power to save me
> > from eternal torture.
>
> That's an odd way of looking at it, since he's the one who actively does 
> the eternal torture.

I thought the debil did the torturing, and that God just kept the place up 
and running. Providing new... customers, paying the gas bill and so on. But 
let's ask duke how it works.

Yo, duke! Who turns the spit in God's Hell?

-- 
Malte Runz

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#1916986

From	The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date	2015-06-04 11:35 -0700
Message-ID	<55709A61.7472@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to	#1916777

Malte Runz wrote:
> 
> "talishi"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mko88u21iop@news3.newsguy.com...
> >
> > Malte Runz wrote:
> > >
> > > It is God's decision to send me to Hell. God has the power to save me
> > > from eternal torture.
> >
> > That's an odd way of looking at it, since he's the one who actively does
> > the eternal torture.
> 
> I thought the debil did the torturing, and that God just kept the place up
> and running. Providing new... customers, paying the gas bill and so on. But
> let's ask duke how it works.
> 
> Yo, duke! Who turns the spit in God's Hell?
> 
> --
> Malte Runz


There is no mention of a place called Hell in the old testatment, is
there?

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#1917828

From	duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date	2015-06-05 16:03 -0500
Message-ID	<gj34nadqlbnmp36fmgnuum52f208hv071h@4ax.com>
In reply to	#1916986

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:35:13 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>Malte Runz wrote:
>> 
>> "talishi"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mko88u21iop@news3.newsguy.com...
>> >
>> > Malte Runz wrote:
>> > >
>> > > It is God's decision to send me to Hell. God has the power to save me
>> > > from eternal torture.
>> >
>> > That's an odd way of looking at it, since he's the one who actively does
>> > the eternal torture.
>> 
>> I thought the debil did the torturing, and that God just kept the place up
>> and running. Providing new... customers, paying the gas bill and so on. But
>> let's ask duke how it works.
>> 
>> Yo, duke! Who turns the spit in God's Hell?
>> 
>> --
>> Malte Runz
>
>
>There is no mention of a place called Hell in the old testatment, is
>there?

There is no salvation described in the OT.

the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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#1918059

From	talishi <talishi@example.net>
Date	2015-06-05 17:39 -0700
Message-ID	<mktfhh0mu9@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#1917828

On 06/05/2015 02:03 PM, duke wrote:
> There is no salvation described in the OT.

That's because there's nothing to be saved FROM in the OT.  It's only in 
the NT that Jesus says, "Nice soul you got there, be a shame if it 
caught on fire...forever."

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#1918412

From	"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date	2015-06-06 13:26 +0200
Message-ID	<5572d8e0$0$23218$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to	#1918059

"talishi"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mktfhh0mu9@news6.newsguy.com...
>
> On 06/05/2015 02:03 PM, duke wrote:
> > There is no salvation described in the OT.
>
> That's because there's nothing to be saved FROM in the OT.  It's only in
> the NT that Jesus says, "Nice soul you got there, be a shame if it caught
> on fire...forever."

'But if you give, say, 10% of all de money you make, I'll make sur... the
Lord will make sure nothin' bad is gonna happen. You scratch my back, and I
won't stick a fork in yours. Capice!

-- 
Malte Runz

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#1918417

From	talishi <talishi@example.net>
Date	2015-06-06 04:42 -0700
Message-ID	<mkumai01n22@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#1918412

On 06/06/2015 04:26 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
> "talishi"  skrev i meddelelsen news:mktfhh0mu9@news6.newsguy.com...
>>
>> On 06/05/2015 02:03 PM, duke wrote:
>> > There is no salvation described in the OT.
>>
>> That's because there's nothing to be saved FROM in the OT.  It's only in
>> the NT that Jesus says, "Nice soul you got there, be a shame if it caught
>> on fire...forever."
>
> 'But if you give, say, 10% of all de money you make, I'll make sur... the
> Lord will make sure nothin' bad is gonna happen. You scratch my back, and I
> won't stick a fork in yours. Capice!

Da capo in charge of J-town scratched his back alright, Italian style.

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