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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-02 18:05 -0700
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:08 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-02 22:52 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 06:08 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-06-03 10:25 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-05 07:25 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-03 18:16 -0700
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 03:58 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:33 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-03 17:29 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:48 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:53 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:14 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:52 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> - 2015-06-06 12:58 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:35 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:08 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:09 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 08:42 -0400
                        For some, "God" is their hero, their aspiration, the dream. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:12 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:21 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 08:53 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 11:06 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:50 -0400
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-08 00:17 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 19:07 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:38 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:30 +0200
                      Besides me, no one here has defined the word "God". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-06-07 07:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:02 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:37 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-04 03:57 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:55 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:54 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:47 -0700
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:53 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-06 20:25 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:12 +0200
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-07 06:53 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:02 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:01 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 11:54 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-06-07 12:52 -0400
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:27 +0000
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:22 +0000
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 09:55 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-07 22:54 +0000
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-06-07 18:10 -0700
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-07 18:57 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:30 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 17:07 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:58 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2015-06-05 22:28 +0000
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:54 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:14 -0400
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:15 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:03 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:40 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:35 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 21:32 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:34 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-07 16:26 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:34 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 21:19 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:59 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 18:35 -0700
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 15:56 -0500
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 10:52 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 20:01 +0200
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-03 13:32 -0500
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-03 23:56 +0200
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-03 18:06 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-04 12:53 +0200
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-04 11:35 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:03 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:39 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 13:26 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-06 04:42 -0700
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 14:18 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:04 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:57 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:56 -0500
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-06 13:15 -0400
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-04 19:53 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-05 13:39 +0200
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 05:58 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:07 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-06-05 17:46 -0400
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:05 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:33 -0700
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 11:58 -0500
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-06 03:45 +0200
                          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:00 -0500
                            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 13:19 +0200
                              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:20 -0500
                                Earl Weber lies. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-07 12:04 -0400
                                  Re: Earl Weber lies. Mike Painter <md.painter@outlook.com> - 2015-06-07 12:25 -0700
                                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> - 2015-06-07 21:48 +0200
                                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 17:38 -0500
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:04 -0500
                      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:34 -0700
                        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-07 10:21 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:02 -0500
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:01 -0500
                  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-06-05 17:44 -0700
                    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-06 12:01 -0500
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-06-05 16:00 -0500
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Tim" <me@rsabc.com> - 2015-06-03 17:31 -0400
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-06-03 16:41 -0500

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#1915675 — Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-06-02 12:16 -0700
SubjectRe: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Message-ID<556E011A.37B8@ix.netcom.com>
Max Boot wrote:
> 
> On 6/1/2015 8:32 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <mkiv384227r@news3.newsguy.com>,
> >   talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
> >
> >> duke wrote:
> >>> God is all love, the fuhrer was a mass murderer.
> >>
> >> We're talking about the same God that killed all the little children and
> >> puppies on Earth with a flood.
> >
> > Millions of them.
> 
> You believe that, do you?


Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God. 


I like devil worshippers...

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#1915916

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-02 18:05 -0700
Message-ID<mkljqs022jo@news7.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1915675
The Starmaker wrote:
> Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.

We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the 
scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the 
Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and 
infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."

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#1916048

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-06-02 22:08 -0700
Message-ID<556E8BDE.7B3D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1915916
talishi wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
> 
> We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
> scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
> Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
> infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."


You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
who are the bad people.

The authors style of writing everything is in a bad form, they are bad
people...


as Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein both said, "they are not the
chosed people"


The Starmaker

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#1916056

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-06-02 22:52 -0700
Message-ID<556E9611.2997@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1916048
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> talishi wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
> >
> > We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
> > scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
> > Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
> > infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
> 
> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
> who are the bad people.
> 
> The authors style of writing everything is in a bad form, they are bad
> people...
> 
> as Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein both said, "they are not the
> chosed people".
> 
> The Starmaker



Most, if not *all* people.. don't understand 'the writing style' of authors
many parts of the bible. The authors of the bible hate the entire human race
and they hate Jesus Christ and his family.

I think they had Jesus Christ killed, I don't know what they did to his mother or father..

If you understand their 'writing style' then you'll know they cannot be trusted. 'm not
even sure they are of the same race as human beings from earth. For some reason since the
beggining of their history, it seems the rest of the human race wants to wipe them out
from the face of the earth. And you let these guys write your bibles and movies and tv shows?


The Starmaker

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#1916111

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-03 06:08 -0400
Message-ID<mkmjkd$auv$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1916048
On 6/3/2015 1:08 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> as Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein both said, "they are not the
> chosed people"


In a sense, god was the first racist. He 'chose' some people over 
others. And woe unto those not chosen.

-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1916196

Frombenj <nobody@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-03 10:25 -0400
Message-ID<67Ebx.30619$uk5.19981@fx24.iad>
In reply to#1916111
On 06/03/2015 06:08 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 6/3/2015 1:08 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> as Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein both said, "they are not the
>> chosed people"
>
>
> In a sense, god was the first racist. He 'chose' some people over
> others. And woe unto those not chosen.

As usual Harlow you are ignoring the fact that God is both "good" and 
"bad". It is just your ego that thinks being "choosen" is something 
desirable. First you must ask "Chosen for WHAT?" In the case of Jews 
there is considerable doubt that what they were chosen for is something 
anyone else would be asking to happen to them.

Come on Harlow. You were in the military! Is being "chosen" something 
that you really want to happen?

CO: Anybody here have a driver's license?

Bunch of GIs eagerly indicate they do!

CO: OK! You, you, and you, Take those wheelbarrows and ....

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#1917453

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-05 07:25 -0400
Message-ID<mks0t0$56a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1916196
On 6/3/2015 10:25 AM, benj wrote:
>
>> In a sense, god was the first racist. He 'chose' some people over
>> others. And woe unto those not chosen.
>
> As usual Harlow you are ignoring the fact that God is both "good" and
> "bad". It is just your ego that thinks being "choosen" is something
> desirable. First you must ask "Chosen for WHAT?" In the case of Jews
> there is considerable doubt that what they were chosen for is something
> anyone else would be asking to happen to them.


BJ there is no spoon.


> Come on Harlow. You were in the military! Is being "chosen" something
> that you really want to happen?
>
> CO: Anybody here have a driver's license?
>
> Bunch of GIs eagerly indicate they do!
>
> CO: OK! You, you, and you, Take those wheelbarrows and ....


Well, I didn't have a drivers license in those days. Instead I got 
'chosen' to operate the M1966 entrenching tool and fill up sandbags.

Good times.



-- 
Cut off one head, two more shall take its place.
HAIL HYDRA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcG5UOY224

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#1916578

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2015-06-03 18:16 -0700
Message-ID<556FA6D6.1B15@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#1916111
HVAC wrote:
> 
> On 6/3/2015 1:08 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > as Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein both said, "they are not the
> > chosed people"
> 
> In a sense, god was the first racist. He 'chose' some people over
> others. And woe unto those not chosen.
> 


Maybe God was the first... atheist.

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#1916117

Fromtalishi <talishi@example.net>
Date2015-06-03 03:58 -0700
Message-ID<mkmmk60qh0@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1916048
The Starmaker wrote:
> talishi wrote:
>> >
>> >The Starmaker wrote:
>>> > >Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>> >
>> >We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
>> >scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
>> >Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
>> >infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
>
> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
> who are the bad people.

Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to 
alt.atheism, you're in good company.

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#1916364

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-03 13:33 -0500
Message-ID<t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com>
In reply to#1916117
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:

>The Starmaker wrote:
>> talishi wrote:
>>> >
>>> >The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> > >Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>>> >
>>> >We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
>>> >scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on the
>>> >Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and
>>> >infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
>>
>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>> who are the bad people.
>
>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to 
>alt.atheism, you're in good company.

The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".

the dukester, American-American

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#1916450

From"Tim" <me@rsabc.com>
Date2015-06-03 17:29 -0400
Message-ID<mknrkj$o86$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#1916364

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:58:35 -0700, talishi <talishi@example.net> wrote:
>
>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>> talishi wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> > >Atheist don't believe in a good God, only in a Bad God.
>>>> >
>>>> >We don't believe in any god, good or bad.  But the god painted by the
>>>> >scriptures sure as shit is a bad one.  God, for instance, opining on 
>>>> >the
>>>> >Amalekites: "Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children 
>>>> >and
>>>> >infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys."
>>>
>>> You confusing the bible with the authors who wrote it...it's the authors
>>> who are the bad people.
>>
>>Oh, you don't believe the Bible is the word of God?   Welcome to
>>alt.atheism, you're in good company.
>
> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".

No it does not. Atheism is the none belief in supernatural beings. That you 
still don't get that is proof of your stupidity.
 

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#1916463

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-03 23:48 +0200
Message-ID<556f7625$0$23227$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#1916364
"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
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(snip)

> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".

You're resorting to primitive troll tactics. You know damned well, that it 
is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know I have 
told you.

Are you done for now?


-- 
Malte Runz 

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#1917814

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-05 15:53 -0500
Message-ID<b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com>
In reply to#1916463
On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
>
>(snip)
>
>> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>
>You're resorting to primitive troll tactics. 

No, it's factual.

>You know damned well, that it 
>is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know I have 
>told you.

Yes, I know what it means.  You are stating that there is NO God.  And you can't
even come close to supporting that stupid comment.    Many people, called
agnostics, are unsure of the evidence available as creation.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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Pope Paul VI
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#1918107

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-06 03:14 +0200
Message-ID<55724979$0$23210$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#1917814
"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
news:b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com...
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
> wrote:
>
> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
> >
> >(snip)
> >
> >> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
> >
> >You're resorting to primitive troll tactics.
>
> No, it's factual.

The good thing about "factual" is that it is verifiable. So all you have to 
do is find a quote of somebody saying it.

>
> >You know damned well, that it
> >is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know I 
> >have
> >told you.
>
> Yes, I know what it means.  You are stating that there is NO God. ...

Quote me.


> ...  And you can't
> even come close to supporting that stupid comment.    Many people, called
> agnostics, are unsure of the evidence available as creation.

You're babbling again.


-- 
Malte Runz 

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#1918661

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-06 11:52 -0500
Message-ID<i896na1aj1em2scdvf8akp2f7eh1j3i9g3@4ax.com>
In reply to#1918107
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 03:14:37 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:

>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>news:b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>> >news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
>> >
>> >(snip)
>> >
>> >> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>> >
>> >You're resorting to primitive troll tactics.
>>
>> No, it's factual.
>
>The good thing about "factual" is that it is verifiable. So all you have to 
>do is find a quote of somebody saying it.

Science professes creation.

>> >You know damned well, that it
>> >is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know I 
>> >have
>> >told you.
>>
>> Yes, I know what it means.  You are stating that there is NO God. ...
>Quote me.

You're either an atheist (impossible) or an agnostic (likely)

>> ...  And you can't
>> even come close to supporting that stupid comment.    Many people, called
>> agnostics, are unsure of the evidence available as creation.
>You're babbling again.


the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1918674

FromGray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl>
Date2015-06-06 12:58 -0400
Message-ID<2h96na9s71t6enbprd767389k08brntr76@4ax.com>
In reply to#1918661
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:52:47 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 03:14:37 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>
>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>>news:b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>> >news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
>>> >
>>> >(snip)
>>> >
>>> >> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>>> >
>>> >You're resorting to primitive troll tactics.
>>>
>>> No, it's factual.
>>
>>The good thing about "factual" is that it is verifiable. So all you have to 
>>do is find a quote of somebody saying it.
>
>Science professes creation.
>

Not since the RCC lost total control of it. The time before that is
called The Dark Ages for a reason.


We will never have a truly free society unless guns are permanently banned!

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#1919316

Fromduke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
Date2015-06-07 09:35 -0500
Message-ID<ofl8nadiauccdm738pslqmmdvbf1bb78j4@4ax.com>
In reply to#1918674
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:58:03 -0400, Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:52:47 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 03:14:37 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> wrote:
>>
>>>"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
>>>news:b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
>>>> >news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
>>>> >
>>>> >(snip)
>>>> >
>>>> >> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO God".
>>>> >
>>>> >You're resorting to primitive troll tactics.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's factual.
>>>
>>>The good thing about "factual" is that it is verifiable. So all you have to 
>>>do is find a quote of somebody saying it.
>>
>>Science professes creation.

>Not since the RCC lost total control of it. The time before that is
>called The Dark Ages for a reason.

3.  Medical science itself professes the human body to reflect a "design with
purpose".  It consists of a central computer (brain) supported by a fluid
transfer system (blood) forced along by a pump (heart), an energy conversion
system (stomach and intestines), a waste disposal system (kidneys), an oxygen
transfer system (lungs) that is required to transfer necessary oxygen to the
brain and to the body parts, maintenance organs (spleen, gall bladder, etc), and
a body salinity (same as ocean water) exactly correct as necessary for transfer
of minute electrical signals to/from the brain to operate and control the body
including the heart.

4.  The conception equation contained in animal forms is divided 50% in the male
and 50% in the female.  We only mix the chemicals.  Of special interest is the
fact that the male and female organs are of complimentary shape in mammals.
These two facts are especially conducive to support planned design.

5.  ARC101:  In the overall scheme of advancement in relationships of life forms
as we move from the least to the greatest:

The rock (inanimate object) does not respond to, or relate to, the plant's
existence because it lacks the faculties to do so.   Nor does the plant
acknowledge, in any fashion, it's awareness of the inanimate object.

Yet the rock and the plant both exist.

One level upward, the plant (simple life) does not respond to, or relate to, the
cow's existence because it lacks the faculties to do so.  However, the cow does
have a limited reverse recognition of the plant as a food source for the cow,
but the plant does not relate in any way to the cow, what it is, or why it is. 

Yet the plant and the cow both exist.

One level up, the cow (complex life form) does not respond to, or relate to, the
human's existence, other than in very rudimentary ways, because it lacks the
faculties to do so.  Man, on the other hand, has a full range of knowledge and a
clear relationship directed backward to the cow including leading the cow by the
nose, but the cow has minimal upward reaction to the man other than the cow sees
the man, but has no idea what the man is or what the man does or why the man is
there.

Yet the cow and the man both exist.

Notice how one level can "relate" backwards to a lower level, but in the
opposite direction of higher level, only in a very rudimentary fashion.  Yet
each higher level not only exists but also exists "basically unknown" to the
level below it.

>We will never have a truly free society unless guns are permanently banned!

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

the dukester, American-American

*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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#1919348

From"Tim" <me@rsabc.com>
Date2015-06-07 11:08 -0400
Message-ID<ml1mpo$kln$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#1919316

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message 
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>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:58:03 -0400, Gray <savagegraycork@friends.gsl> 
>> wrote:

<snip>

>
>>Not since the RCC lost total control of it. The time before that is
>>called The Dark Ages for a reason.
>
> 3.  Medical science itself professes the human body to reflect a "design 
> with
> purpose".

No it doesn't. It's dishonest to quote without referencing, so put up or 
shut.

<snip>

>
> Notice how one level can "relate" backwards to a lower level, but in the
> opposite direction of higher level, only in a very rudimentary fashion. 
> Yet
> each higher level not only exists but also exists "basically unknown" to 
> the
> level below it.

Notice how that commits you to admitting that humans can not possibly relate 
to gods. Yet you claim to. Sorry fat earl, but you can't have your cake and 
eat it too.

 

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#1919146

From"Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
Date2015-06-07 13:09 +0200
Message-ID<5574266c$0$23233$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>
In reply to#1918661
"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen 
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>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 03:14:37 +0200, "Malte Runz" <malte_runz@forgitit.dk> 
> wrote:
>
> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >news:b034napvlcccuijc8lj4ahi66kh95dq900@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:48:23 +0200, "Malte Runz" 
> >> <malte_runz@forgitit.dk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"duke"  skrev i meddelelsen
> >> >news:t1iumal8dhpg6akb7tbge5bt6ffldoqouc@4ax.com...
> >> >
> >> >(snip)
> >> >
> >> >> The real problem is that atheism means "you declare there is NO 
> >> >> God".
> >> >
> >> >You're resorting to primitive troll tactics.
> >>
> >> No, it's factual.
> >
> >The good thing about "factual" is that it is verifiable. So all you have 
> >to
> >do is find a quote of somebody saying it.
>
> Science professes creation.

'Science' is not about answering the question 'is/were there a creator or 
not'. 'Science' has far more important things to do than to falsify ancient 
myths. 'We can now say, with as close to absolute certainty as one get get, 
that the Sun is not a sentient god.

And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there is 
NO God".

>
> >> >You know damned well, that it
> >> >is not what atheism means. You've been told a billion times. I know I
> >> >have
> >> >told you.
> >>
> >> Yes, I know what it means.  You are stating that there is NO God. ...
> >Quote me.
>
> You're either an atheist (impossible) or an agnostic (likely).

Again you fail to support your claims with facts. Boy, you suck at this 
game.

(snip)


-- 
Malte Runz 

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#1919213

FromHVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-07 08:42 -0400
Message-ID<ml1e3i$mhh$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1919146
On 6/7/2015 7:09 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
>
> And I notice, that you can not find anybody who has declared that "there
> is NO God".


Then allow me to be the first. "There is no god".



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