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  Re: Evil *does not* exist. Greywolf <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 11:22 -0700
    Re: Evil *does not* exist. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-15 23:41 +0200
    Re: Evil *does not* exist. Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-04-19 07:22 -0700

#2090320 — Re: Evil *does not* exist.

On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 10:08:14 AM UTC-7, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Greywolf
> <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:40:56 PM UTC-5, Kaptain Krunch wrote:
> >> In article <aaa-B00136.15215626032016@news.giganews.com>,
> >>  Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > In article <56F6F6A6.6E73@ix.netcom.com>,
> >> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Evil *does not* exist. Point to me, where is this evil?
> >> > 
> >> > It exists in the minds of theists!
> >> >
> >> AGREED.  Theist or non-theist, the opinions are worthless.  "Every man's 
> >> way is right in his own eyes". 
> >
> >Not true. 
> >
> >Want to test it?
> >
> >First, you are insisting "God" exists.
> 
> Mandated by Creation and existence.

Which is saying nothing. You have just as much proof that a Leprechaun, . . . . . . . . Uh, . . . make that a pre-existent "Son" of a Leprechaun that created the universe than the God Jesus did. No difference.

> 
> >Second, you believe the Bible to be "God's Revealed Word." (And you give a rat's ass that atheists don't believe it. You, duke, Andrew, Astero, Robert Duncan, JTEM, among others, routinely post verses of Scripture as though they were the "final word" on any certain subject.)
> 
> But your own opinions are so wrong that they head off in a stupid direction.

Said without a *STITCH* of proof I'm wrong.

> 
> >Okay. Staying within the confines of Christian belief which you all insist is the ultimate truth, we find that:

> >A) The God Jesus created everything in existence--according to John 1:3, Colossians 1:16, and Revelation 4:11. (Or is that some sort of Biblical "mistake"?)

> >B) "God" created a morally evil, evil serpent that lied to, and deceived Eve into "sinning." But it was an act Eve had no idea was actually "sinning" because she had no clue as to what "lying" or "being deceived," or being deliberately "tricked" into "sinning" was AT ALL *until* partaking of the so-called "forbidden fruit"!
> 
> Allegorical.  Gen 1-11 is not considered scientific.

So you reject "God's Word"!!! Where in the Bible, does it state that Genesis 1-11 is to be taken "allegorically"? Isn't that just YOUR spin on things? 

> 
> >C) Being "lied" into sinning, does not count as actual "sinning" because the victim was "lied to" and acted in good faith--accepting what was told her was, what we know, as the "truth." No possible crime there--unless one wants it to be called a "crime" for being unaware she was being lied to.

> >D) That "evil" that Eve became aware of only AFTER being deceitfully tricked into sinning (by a "loving" God who stood by and did NOTHING to prevent the horrific tragedy affecting His "earthly children" and the future of the human race) was a tree "God" consciously planted in the Garden of Eden called in the Bible (which you, duke, Andrew, Astero, Robert Duncan, JTEM, among others, accept as "God's Revealed Word" and cite verse after verse from) the "Tree of Knowledge of GOOD and EVIL."
> 
> God told her first "do NOT....".  The thought she was God's equal and said she's
> decide and not God.

You've TOTALLY ignored Eve was TRICKED into sinning. She had no idea she was being TRICKED, you piece of shit. Address THAT aspect before flappin' your yappers! She couldn't POSSIBLY be found guilty in a court of law if the evidence showed she had been totally deceived.

And notice how you switched from claiming Genesis 1-11 was nothing more than "allegory" to blaming Eve for the onset of Evil and the Fall of Man. 

What's the matter Shit-Breath? Having a hard time accepting who REALLY created very Evil itself?

> 
> >But now you want to try and claim "Evil" doesn't exist!!!!

> >So let's ask a simple of you all: Was that tree that your God so malevolently planted in the Garden of Eden that served as a "booby-trap" to bring about the "Fall of Man" the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and EVIL"? Or the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and NON-EVIL?
> 
> "Evil" is an attitude, not a thing or an action.  And it's a natural part of
> "free choice" form God.   How can you have free when there is only choice.

That's right, Professor. There had to be the "other" option that had already been created to choose from. Now, Stink-Butt, who created that "other" option?

> 
> >Once we get a few honest answers from the rodent, so-called "Christians" that plague our atheist "home," we can move forward in our search for the "truth."
> >(to be continued)
> 
> Waiting on you, dummy.

You just got an ass-kicking, Butt-Breath. And damn, I've got to come up with some other name to more adequately describe the stench you give off in this newsgroup. It's really, really, gross!!!

> 
> the dukester, American-American
> 
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

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#2090852

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:32:54 -0500
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:22:59 -0700 (PDT), Greywolf
> <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 10:08:14 AM UTC-7, duke wrote:  
> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Greywolf
> >> <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>   
> >> >On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:40:56 PM UTC-5, Kaptain Krunch
> >> >wrote:  
> >> >> In article <aaa-B00136.15215626032016@news.giganews.com>,
> >> >>  Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote:
> >> >>   
> >> >> > In article <56F6F6A6.6E73@ix.netcom.com>,
> >> >> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> >   
> >> >> > > The Starmaker wrote:  
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > > Evil *does not* exist. Point to me, where is this evil?  
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > It exists in the minds of theists!
> >> >> >  
> >> >> AGREED.  Theist or non-theist, the opinions are worthless.
> >> >> "Every man's way is right in his own eyes".   
> >> >
> >> >Not true. 
> >> >
> >> >Want to test it?
> >> >
> >> >First, you are insisting "God" exists.  
> >> Mandated by Creation and existence.  
> >Which is saying nothing. You have just as much proof that a
> >Leprechaun, . . . . . . . . Uh, . . . make that a pre-existent "Son"
> >of a Leprechaun that created the universe than the God Jesus did. No
> >difference.  
> 

> Well, I know you're slow, very slow scientifically.  But it's clear
> that there was nothing, not even outer space, and the something
> appeared form nothing into nothingness and preceded to expand outward
> to form our universe and all in it, including outer space which is
> the growing void between clumps of mass.

Bullshit.

> 
> God did it.  If you can offer a better, or even an equal, let's hear
> it. 
> 
Sure...

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#2092912

On Friday, 15 April 2016 22:32:57 UTC+1, duke  wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:22:59 -0700 (PDT), Greywolf
> <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 10:08:14 AM UTC-7, duke wrote:
> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Greywolf
> >> <greywolftheatheist@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 1:40:56 PM UTC-5, Kaptain Krunch wrote:
> >> >> In article <aaa-B00136.15215626032016@news.giganews.com>,
> >> >>  Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > In article <56F6F6A6.6E73@ix.netcom.com>,
> >> >> >  The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > > Evil *does not* exist. Point to me, where is this evil?
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > It exists in the minds of theists!
> >> >> >
> >> >> AGREED.  Theist or non-theist, the opinions are worthless.  "Every man's 
> >> >> way is right in his own eyes". 
> >> >
> >> >Not true. 
> >> >
> >> >Want to test it?
> >> >
> >> >First, you are insisting "God" exists.
> >> Mandated by Creation and existence.
> >Which is saying nothing. You have just as much proof that a Leprechaun, . . . . . . . . Uh, . . . make that a pre-existent "Son" of a Leprechaun that created the universe than the God Jesus did. No difference.
> 
> Well, I know you're slow, very slow scientifically.  But it's clear that there
> was nothing, not even outer space, and the something appeared form nothing into
> nothingness and preceded to expand outward to form our universe and all in it,
> including outer space which is the growing void between clumps of mass.
> 
> God did it.  If you can offer a better, or even an equal, let's hear it. 

A better answer is "I don't know". At least from there you might to on to attempts to find out.

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