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Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love

From "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism
Subject Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love
Date 2016-03-03 12:56 +0000
Message-ID <djqqk0Filj7U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (10 earlier) <971dsc.cp7.17.1@news.alt.net> <g3rbdb5se49jdggjg0r2hlf7m7rnibrk3m@4ax.com> <n4cedb5fi1jbiustq6ln1rnkvu5r0dbiug@4ax.com> <djoqnaF3d09U1@mid.individual.net> <aaa-61F643.12191702032016@news.giganews.com>

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On 02/03/2016 19:19, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:
> In article <djoqnaF3d09U1@mid.individual.net>,
>   "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 02/03/2016 18:30, Bob Casanova wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 13:25:29 -0600, the following appeared
>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Christopher A. Lee
>>> <c.lee@fairpoint.net>:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:51:23 +0000 (UTC), Bob Officer
>>>> <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 29-February-2016 4:52 AM, Bob Officer wrote:
>>>>>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no need to make up something which has not supporting
>>>>>>> evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> there's lots of evidence for God, but that's another matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually there isn't lots of evidence.
>>>>> That's the fallacy of wishful hoping.
>>>>
>>>> But there must be, otherwise he wouldn't believe it.
>>>
>>> It all depends on what one considers evidence. Words written
>>> by people who *claimed* to speak for God seem to be good
>>> enough. I wonder what would happen to someone today who
>>> stood up in church and made the same claim, especially if it
>>> contradicted doctrine? Oh, wait, I don't have to wonder;
>>> check out the Thirty Years' War for an example, or any
>>> church accusation regarding "antiChrists".
>>
>> That's really the kicker.
>>
>> We can see this in the criminal justice system every day: juries are
>> very prone to being impressed and swayed by eyewitness testimony and
>> personal statements from any persons involved, never mind that all the
>> actual scientific data says that this is the most unreliable sort of
>> evidence.
>
> While eyewitness evidence may not be "the most unreliable sort of
> evidence", it is certainly not reliable enough to justify mutually
> incompatible beliefs in mutually incompatible gods.
>

It is not reliable enough to justify anything, IMO.
But it does show that we humans are predisposed to give it far more 
weight than it deserves.  A believer standing up in a church service and 
"testifying" that prayer and god's love cured her of cancer makes a far 
bigger impression than a whole room full of doctors and scientists with 
studies and hard medical evidence to prove that it was really her 
chemotherapy.

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Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-23 21:39 -0500
  Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Dave Taylor <triple_crown_1@la_kings.con> - 2016-02-23 20:58 -0800
    Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-02-24 11:33 -0700
      Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-24 22:06 +0000
        Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-02-25 09:54 -0700
        Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-25 23:00 -0500
          Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-26 04:16 +0000
            Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:23 +1100
              Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-27 23:36 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 17:26 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-28 17:57 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-02-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-29 03:53 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-28 22:44 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-29 04:00 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-29 21:57 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 00:08 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-01 06:16 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-03-01 00:05 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-01 01:54 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-01 22:02 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-01 20:07 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-01 14:50 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-02 11:44 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-02 23:08 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-03 12:25 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-03 22:26 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-01 19:50 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-03-01 21:29 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-02 15:47 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-03-02 22:31 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-03 17:34 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-03-03 21:25 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Leonard Leonard <l.a.radio@kfi.con> - 2016-03-01 06:56 -0800
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-01 19:48 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-01 18:51 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-03 12:55 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-03-03 21:25 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-28 22:43 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-01 19:54 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-03-01 21:30 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-03 12:56 +1100
            Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-27 23:37 -0500
              Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 17:23 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-28 17:52 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-02-28 13:39 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-28 22:46 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-29 03:53 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-02-29 10:53 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-02-29 12:19 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-29 18:58 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-01 10:49 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-01 13:21 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love MattB <trdell12345@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 11:28 -0800
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-02 11:35 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-02 11:26 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 14:16 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-02 22:58 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 19:16 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-03 12:40 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-03 12:06 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-03 14:34 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-04 11:36 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-04 20:28 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-04 21:56 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-01 20:06 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-02 11:41 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-02 22:24 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 16:47 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-03 12:14 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-03 19:45 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-04 10:51 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-04 20:08 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-29 18:50 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-02-29 13:34 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-01 01:07 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-01 19:58 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-28 22:46 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-03-01 19:44 +1100
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-03-01 01:37 -0800
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-01 06:13 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-01 18:51 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-01 13:25 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-01 20:06 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-02 11:30 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-03-02 12:44 -0600
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-02 22:24 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-03 10:54 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-03 19:36 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-03-03 22:37 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-04 01:49 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-02 18:46 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-03-02 12:19 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-03 12:56 +0000
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-03 12:43 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> - 2016-03-03 10:56 -0700
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-03-01 21:26 -0500
                Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-28 22:44 -0500
        Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-02-28 08:15 +1100
      Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-25 23:00 -0500
    Re: www.thescienceforum.com/ is a forum you might love mur@. - 2016-02-25 23:00 -0500

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