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Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS

From	"Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups	alt.atheism
Subject	Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS
Date	2015-08-07 10:36 +0200
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On 06/08/2015 20:10, nature bats last wrote:
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 8:52:30 AM UTC-7, Wexford Eire wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:36:48 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT), Wexford Eire
>>> <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 12:11:45 PM UTC-4, duke wrote:
>>>>> CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS
>>>>>
>>>>> This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish.  And
>>>>> send it on to everyone.  Maybe this is why our  Muslims are so quiet and not
>>>>> speaking out about any atrocities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can a good Muslim be a good American or a good Canadian ?
>>>>>
>>>>> This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
>>>>> The following is his reply:
>>>>>
>>>>> Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia.
>>>>> Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except
>>>>> Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)
>>>>>
>>>>> Scripturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and
>>>>> the Quran.
>>>>>
>>>>> Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in
>>>>> prayer five times a day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with
>>>>> Christians or Jews.
>>>>>
>>>>> Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who
>>>>> teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and
>>>>> scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )
>>>>>
>>>>> Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it
>>>>> is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow
>>>>> freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every
>>>>> Muslim government is either dictatorial or  autocratic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spiritually - no. Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' The
>>>>> Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly
>>>>> father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, after much study and deliberation... Perhaps we should be very
>>>>> suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both 'good'
>>>>> Muslims and 'good' Americans. Call it what you wish it's still the truth. You
>>>>> had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for
>>>>> our country and our future.
>>>>>
>>>>> The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!
>>>>>
>>>>>    Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.  SO FREEDOM
>>>>> IS NOT FREE.
>>>>> THE UNITED STATES MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.
>>>>>
>>>>> the dukester, American-American
>>>>>
>>>>> *****
>>>>> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>>>>> Pope Paul VI
>>>>> *****
>>>>
>>>> Dukie -- I suggest you read a little about Protestant attitudes toward Roman Catholicism. This crap you posted is a just a repeat of that nonsense.
>>>
>>> Well, wex.  The issue is muslim belief and why they will never pledge allegiance
>>> to the USofA over the koran.
>>>
>>> As far as protest_ants are concerned, they follow lutianity rather than
>>> Christianity.
>>>
>> Neither will some Christians. You don't know much, do you meathead. See "West Virginia Board of Education vs. Barnette." Supreme court of the United States.
>>
>
>
> .> Actually, no Christian should swear allegiance to any flag. It amounts to idolatry and is in direct disobedience of the first commandment. If you say the pledge, you're going to hell, Duke.
>
> And of course the Pledge also violates Jesus' stricture
> against swearing an oath on anything, or for that matter
> swearing any  oath at all.
>
> I'm forever amused by the Pledge of Allegiance idolators
> who fight tooth and nail to keep "under God" in the Pledge,
> while ignoring what Jesus  specifically said about that.
>

It's a doozie of an example of "selective reading and comprehension" 
that's such a hallmark of organised faith....

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CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS  duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 11:11 -0500
  Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-02 09:15 -0700
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-02 12:21 -0500
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-02 16:34 -0500
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 18:16 -0700
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-03 16:56 -0500
          Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-03 16:24 -0700
            Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:33 -0500
  YOU CANNOT BE A REPUBLICAN AND A CHRISTIAN Paul <papa_fox@cybertown.com> - 2015-08-02 11:11 -0700
    Re: YOU CANNOT BE A REPUBLICAN AND A CHRISTIAN bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-02 16:09 -0500
  Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-04 03:15 -0700
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-04 03:42 -0700
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Paul <papa_fox@cybertown.com> - 2015-08-04 08:54 -0700
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 13:28 +0200
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Kurt Kurt <passerby31416@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:49 -0700
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-06 03:59 -0700
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-06 14:06 +0200
          Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-06 07:01 -0700
            Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2015-08-06 11:04 -0500
            Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-06 18:52 +0200
              Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-06 17:59 -0700
                Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-07 10:37 +0200
  Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS default <default@defaulter.net> - 2015-08-04 09:03 -0400
  Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 07:03 -0700
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 18:56 +0200
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:40 -0700
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 20:57 -0700
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:36 -0500
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 21:00 -0700
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 17:19 -0500
          Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-07 15:27 -0700
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 08:52 -0700
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:10 -0700
          Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-07 10:36 +0200
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 17:21 -0500
          Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS David Harmon <source@netcom.com> - 2015-08-10 17:02 -0700
            Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 13:31 -0500
  Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS The Chief Castrator Of The Jews <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> - 2015-08-05 10:21 -0700
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS WeHang FagZ <macabbeus@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:42 -0700
    Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-05 14:39 -0500
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Woza Africa <kolwezzi@astromail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:57 -0700
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 17:23 -0500
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS Wexford Eire <wexford.eire.1798@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 21:03 -0700
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 17:25 -0500
      Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 11:05 -0700
        Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-07 17:26 -0500
          Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-07 15:29 -0700
          Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:17 -0700
            Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-08 13:46 -0500
              Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS "Syd M." <pauldavidwright@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-08 13:24 -0700
              Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-08 15:36 -0700
                Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-09 10:09 -0500
                Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-09 12:06 -0700
                Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2015-08-11 13:08 -0500
                Re: CAN MUSLIMS BE GOOD AMERICANS OR GOOD CANADIANS nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-11 12:44 -0700

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