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| Message-ID | <590641FE.514C@ix.netcom.com> (permalink) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2017-04-30 12:58 -0700 |
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written, alt.astronomy |
| Subject | Re: God doesn't believe in atheist |
| References | (6 earlier) <58FD901F.608@ix.netcom.com> <5904CE00.1DD3@ix.netcom.com> <bjkbgclirmjrlh862r7iddi07gkln4udps@4ax.com> <2039010.ElGaqSPkdT@PointedEars.de> <59063C47.31EA@ix.netcom.com> |
Cross-posted to 5 groups.
The Starmaker wrote: > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > > > SteveGG amok-crossposted across 5(!) newsgroups without Followup-To: > > > > > Amazing that some fools still believe in god, creation and all the BS > > > that goes with it ! > > > > Amazing that you still have not learned to post properly. > > > > > If the univwrse had a begining, then what was a day before ? > > > > JFTR: The idea that the (our) universe had a beginning is not limited to > > religion and creationism at all. > > > > There is a lot of observational *scientific* evidence that supports the Big > > Bang theory that concludes, from the general theory of relativity applied to > > our universe, that our universe *had* a beginning. > > > > However, (real) science (cosmology) does not jump to the conclusion that > > therefore our universe was created, which would require it to have (had) a > > creator. For all we know, our universe could have begun from “nothingâ€, > > i.e. quantum fluctuations in empty space could have produced our universe, > > and in fact any other universe. > > > > As a result, the concept of a “day before†the (our) universe began, or more > > generally, a time before the Big Bang, is not well-defined. Time itself > > began with (or, more precisely, shortly after) the Big Bang inasfar as > > that, according to theory, causality breaks down before the Planck epoch. > > > > As another result, there could be an infinite number of universes, our > > universe just being one of them in what has been coined “the multiverseâ€. > > (Hence my emphasis on “ourâ€. Scientific understanding has moved beyond > > the point where we literally mean “universe†as “the only one†as per the > > original Latin.) > > > > See also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Universe_from_Nothing> p. > > > > > Also, absolutely ridiculous that there is god that oversees everything. > > > > Full ACK. > > > > > It takes hundreds of thousands of years for anything to transverse just > > > one galaxy, including god's thoughts, so god would have to be a very slow > > > thinker ! > > > > Your logic is flawed because a lifeform that we, at our current stage of > > development, would accept as a deity, could have discovered laws of physics > > that we have not discovered yet. Keep in mind: > > > > “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.†> > > > –Clarke’s third law > > > > which can been rephrased as > > > > “Any sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial intelligence is > > indistinguishable from God.†> > > > –Shermer's last law > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws> > > > > However, the existence of such a lifeform grows the more unlikely the more > > we develop our understanding of our universe. > > > > -- > > PointedEars > > > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. > > The guy with the pointed ears is quoting...science fiction writers!!! THAT'S INSANE!!!! > > British science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke formulated three adages > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws > > God had a dream...so he painted his dream. > > He took out his pen and drew a tree. > > Which is worse, quoting from the bible or quoting from a ...science fiction book???? Next, the guy with the pointed ears will be quoting...Star Trek! I wonder which character he'll quote¿ "Set Phasers To Stun" "I'm Givin' Her All She's Got, Captain!" "Highly Illogical..." "Khaaannnn!"
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