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| From | Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism |
| Subject | Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature |
| Date | 2016-06-06 20:46 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <4msh2d-79d.ln1@spanky.localhost.net> (permalink) |
| References | <6vaclbt5iaa4in4fau6iebebtmm1ong0nm@4ax.com> |
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 22:07:13 -0400, Dale wrote: > abiogenesis is not observed in nature, life from non-life > > biogenesis is observed in nature, life from life > > even if an experimenter made life from non-life, the experimenter, the > first causal step, is life, so it is biogenesis, life from life > > I have heard the following debated > > 1) life consists of non-life materials > > 2) biogenesis does not fit with broader explanations like the big bang > > as for (1), this might be true for plants, but for conscious life the > debate of dualism remains, moreso the causal path is not proven, just > because the parts are there doesn't imply causality > > as for (2), there is no empirical "theory of everything" that is > testable > > I am not proposing a "God(s) of the gaps" explanation, what I am saying > is that we have ample evidence of biogenesis, eternal panspermia could > be a possibility A simpler way to look at it is this: does life exist, and if so, has it *always* existed? Obviously, it exists. Equally obviously, it did not exist prior to, say, the big bang. Thus, we know that - by whatever means - abiogensis must have occurred. When, how, where and why? Different topic.
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abiogenesis not observed in nature Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-06 22:07 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 19:10 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-07 00:29 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 01:29 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 23:32 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-07 00:27 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 00:44 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 01:09 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 01:08 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-07 10:16 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-07 10:14 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 00:13 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 14:17 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 20:46 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2016-06-07 00:25 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 00:42 -0400
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 01:28 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 01:24 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 16:57 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 01:14 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 01:05 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 18:43 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Don Kresch <no@spam.org> - 2016-06-07 07:16 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-07 10:12 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-07 12:08 -0500
Re: abiogenesis was not observed in nature by anyone who was not there when it happened Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-06-07 15:54 -0600
Re: abiogenesis was not observed in nature by anyone who was not there when it happened John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-06-07 18:34 -0700
Re: abiogenesis was not observed in nature by anyone who was not there when it happened Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:46 -0700
Re: abiogenesis was not observed in nature by anyone who was not there when it happened "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:54 -0700
Re: abiogenesis was not observed in nature by anyone who was not there when it happened Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 14:06 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:44 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:55 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-07 08:52 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 19:20 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-08 05:58 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-08 06:01 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-08 08:17 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-08 10:53 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-09 07:50 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-09 10:58 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-06-10 10:01 +1000
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-10 04:13 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-10 06:17 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-10 06:01 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-10 08:49 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-10 07:19 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Malcolm McMahon <malcolm.mc74@googlemail.com> - 2016-06-09 07:55 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 14:48 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-06-10 05:41 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-09 17:42 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-08 10:52 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 14:34 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Davej <galt_57@hotmail.com> - 2016-06-07 09:07 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature John Locke <johnnydemon666@demonmail.com> - 2016-06-07 11:30 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-06-08 12:38 +1000
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Christopher A. Lee <c.lee@fairpoint.net> - 2016-06-08 06:25 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2016-06-07 20:41 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 14:47 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature bilgat@m.nu - 2016-06-09 18:08 -0500
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature Cloud Hobbit <youngblood2949@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 18:23 -0700
Re: abiogenesis not observed in nature WangoTango <Asgard24@mindspring.com> - 2016-06-16 18:53 -0400
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