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  Claiming your place on Wikipedia! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-28 11:40 -0700
    Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! mimus99 <mimus99@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 10:29 -0400
      Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 10:33 -0700
      Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-30 11:07 -0700
        Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Doug Weller <dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk> - 2018-09-23 16:12 +0100
          Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 12:34 -0400
            Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-09-23 10:47 -0600
              Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-09-23 13:05 -0400
              Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 09:03 -0700
                Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-09-25 23:13 -0600
                  Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 09:03 -0700
            Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 09:02 -0700
          Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 09:05 -0700
            Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 12:13 -0500
              Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-09-24 23:40 -0400
                Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 06:46 +0000
                  Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 12:48 -0400
                    Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-09-25 11:23 -0700
                    Re: Claiming your place on Wikipedia! David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-09-28 05:12 -0500

#300633 — Claiming your place on Wikipedia!

Promotional Package
Cost: $699.00

Claiming your place on Wikipedia!
Creating Content
Inserting Guidelines
Content Formatting
Integrating Sources
Working with industry experts
Experiencing quick responses and fast turnarounds
Utilizing resources more productively
Unlimited Revisions
100% Ownership Rights
100% Money Back Guarantee


they charging to place misinformation now?

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#300659

On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 11:40:38 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:

> Promotional Package
> Cost: $699.00
> 
> Claiming your place on Wikipedia!
> Creating Content
> Inserting Guidelines
> Content Formatting
> Integrating Sources
> Working with industry experts
> Experiencing quick responses and fast turnarounds
> Utilizing resources more productively
> Unlimited Revisions
> 100% Ownership Rights
> 100% Money Back Guarantee
> 
> 
> they charging to place misinformation now?

You should read my post on the Flonk about "How I Tried Four Times to Edit
a Wikipedia Article":

https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk/LL5PT1fwRaE/OwfDjwr0XVcJ

-- 

Bureaucracy Is All.

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#300666

mimus99 <mimus99@gmail.com> wrote in
news:yjwqh5babn26$.erqernro03b0.dlg@40tude.net: 

> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 11:40:38 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
>> Promotional Package
>> Cost: $699.00
>> 
>> Claiming your place on Wikipedia!
>> Creating Content
>> Inserting Guidelines
>> Content Formatting
>> Integrating Sources
>> Working with industry experts
>> Experiencing quick responses and fast turnarounds
>> Utilizing resources more productively
>> Unlimited Revisions
>> 100% Ownership Rights
>> 100% Money Back Guarantee
>> 
>> 
>> they charging to place misinformation now?
> 
> You should read my post on the Flonk about "How I Tried Four
> Times to Edit a Wikipedia Article":
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=alt.alien.vampire
> .flonk.flonk.flonk/LL5PT1fwRaE/OwfDjwr0XVcJ 
> 
Or the account of Timothy Messer-Kruse's attempts to correct 
completely bogus information about the Haymarket Riot, in which the 
powers that be at Wikpedia said point blaank that public opinion 
takes precendence over actual fact, regardless of who factually 
incorrect it is.

https://www.npr.org/2012/10/03/162203092/wikipedia-politicizes-
landmark-historical-event

https://tinyurl.com/y8z3pskd

Wikipedia is a popularity contest for what people want to be true, 
and truth will never be allowed to interfere with that primary 
function.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#300671

mimus99 wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 11:40:38 -0700, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Promotional Package
> > Cost: $699.00
> >
> > Claiming your place on Wikipedia!
> > Creating Content
> > Inserting Guidelines
> > Content Formatting
> > Integrating Sources
> > Working with industry experts
> > Experiencing quick responses and fast turnarounds
> > Utilizing resources more productively
> > Unlimited Revisions
> > 100% Ownership Rights
> > 100% Money Back Guarantee
> >
> >
> > they charging to place misinformation now?
> 
> You should read my post on the Flonk about "How I Tried Four Times to Edit
> a Wikipedia Article":
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk/LL5PT1fwRaE/OwfDjwr0XVcJ
> 
> --
> 
> Bureaucracy Is All.



the secret to getting to edit Wiki is to insert misinformation... accurate, correct and true information is not allowed in Wiki.


I'll give you an example of inaccurate, incorrect and untrue information posted on Wiki:


Here is a patent of Albert Einstein REFRIDERATION process
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US1781541-0.png


Here you see on WIKI somebody inserted at the bottom using old time fontss Calligraphy "Einstei's refrigerator" 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator#/media/File:Einstein_Refrigerator.png


Einstein clearly wrote REFRIDERATION, not refriderator as 'they' want you to think. It's fraud and misinformation.


All Einstein's patent is for a cooling system for atomic bomb reactors:
https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/images/2015/08/np-how-Boiling-Water-Reactor-works.gif

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#301594

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:07:31 -0700, in rec.arts.sf.written, The Starmaker
wrote:

>
>the secret to getting to edit Wiki is to insert misinformation... accurate, correct and true information is not allowed in Wiki.
>
>
>I'll give you an example of inaccurate, incorrect and untrue information posted on Wiki:
>
>
>Here is a patent of Albert Einstein REFRIDERATION process
>https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US1781541-0.png
>
>
>Here you see on WIKI somebody inserted at the bottom using old time fontss Calligraphy "Einstei's refrigerator" 
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator#/media/File:Einstein_Refrigerator.png
>
>
>Einstein clearly wrote REFRIDERATION, not refriderator as 'they' want you to think. It's fraud and misinformation.
>
>
>All Einstein's patent is for a cooling system for atomic bomb reactors:
>https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/images/2015/08/np-how-Boiling-Water-Reactor-works.gif

Huh? The patent at patentimages.storage clearly says "refrigeration", no
"d".

Doug Weller
-- 
Doug Weller -- 
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
 

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#301595

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:12:49 +0100, Doug Weller
<dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 11:07:31 -0700, in rec.arts.sf.written, The Starmaker
>wrote:
>
>>
>>the secret to getting to edit Wiki is to insert misinformation... accurate, correct and true information is not allowed in Wiki.
>>
>>
>>I'll give you an example of inaccurate, incorrect and untrue information posted on Wiki:
>>
>>
>>Here is a patent of Albert Einstein REFRIDERATION process
>>https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pages/US1781541-0.png
>>
>>
>>Here you see on WIKI somebody inserted at the bottom using old time fontss Calligraphy "Einstei's refrigerator" 
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator#/media/File:Einstein_Refrigerator.png
>>
>>
>>Einstein clearly wrote REFRIDERATION, not refriderator as 'they' want you to think. It's fraud and misinformation.
>>
>>
>>All Einstein's patent is for a cooling system for atomic bomb reactors:
>>https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/images/2015/08/np-how-Boiling-Water-Reactor-works.gif
>
>Huh? The patent at patentimages.storage clearly says "refrigeration", no
>"d".

Besides which:
(a) why would Electrolux have any interest in "atomic bomb reactors"
in 1927, 
(b) the process described is one useful for cooling soda, not reactors
(c) WTF is an "atomic bomb reactor" anyway
(d) Why am I replying to a post on a Starmaker thread to begin with
(e) Why are _you_ replying to a post on a Starmaker thread to begin
with
>
>Doug Weller

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#301596

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

>(c) WTF is an "atomic bomb reactor" anyway

You can make two kinds of A bombs.  One uses U235, separating it out
from the far more common U238.

The other kind uses a nuclear reactor to turn U238 into plutoniium.
The various reactors at Hanford could be considered "atomic bomb
reactors."
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#301597

On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 10:47:30 -0600, Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:

>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>(c) WTF is an "atomic bomb reactor" anyway
>
>You can make two kinds of A bombs.  One uses U235, separating it out
>from the far more common U238.
>
>The other kind uses a nuclear reactor to turn U238 into plutoniium.
>The various reactors at Hanford could be considered "atomic bomb
>reactors."

Never heard anyone in the physics or engineering community refer to
one as such.  And in any case that particular reactor was not a
boiling water reactor of the kind that starnumbnuts linked nor did it
use anything resembling the refrigeration system it was bleating
about.

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#301608

Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in
news:g0puelFbai0U1@mid.individual.net: 


> You can make two kinds of A bombs.  One uses U235, separating it
> out from the far more common U238.

You can also make an A bomb out of U233 (India did so). It's not a 
very *good* A bomb, but it will explode in a chain reaction.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#301627

I thought that India was using Pu from CANDU reactors.  Or do they do
some of each?  I wasn't aware of U233 bombs.

Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in
>news:g0puelFbai0U1@mid.individual.net: 
>
>
>> You can make two kinds of A bombs.  One uses U235, separating it
>> out from the far more common U238.
>
>You can also make an A bomb out of U233 (India did so). It's not a 
>very *good* A bomb, but it will explode in a chain reaction.

-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#301633

Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in
news:g10istFm838U1@mid.individual.net: 

> I thought that India was using Pu from CANDU reactors.  Or do
> they do some of each?  I wasn't aware of U233 bombs.

The U233 was their very early efforts, in 1998, and I believe was 
motivated by their extensive deposits of thorium (which can fairly 
easily be turned into U233). The results were dissapointing enough 
that they didn't bother beyond that.
> 
> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> wrote in
>>news:g0puelFbai0U1@mid.individual.net: 
>>
>>
>>> You can make two kinds of A bombs.  One uses U235, separating
>>> it out from the far more common U238.
>>
>>You can also make an A bomb out of U233 (India did so). It's not
>>a very *good* A bomb, but it will explode in a chain reaction.
> 



-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#301607

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
news:qvffqd5tv6bbsuml1ffckiunetarjl84aq@4ax.com: 

> (d) Why am I replying to a post on a Starmaker thread to begin

I could suggest a couple of reasons, neither of which would come as 
news to anyone, including you.

> with (e) Why are _you_ replying to a post on a Starmaker thread
> to begin with

Therein lies the real question. Doug appears to be relatively new in 
rasw, so perhaps he isn't familiar with what the hell is wrong with 
Starmaker. On the other hand, it's also plausible that he should be 
spelling his name Duh-g. Time will tell.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#301609

Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives 
considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of saying 
anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty forming complete 
sentences.

Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#301610

On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives 
> considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of saying 
> anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty forming complete 
> sentences.
> 
> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.

What he said.

Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our killfiles, and
thus never see its posts. However, we do see when people reply to it and
include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so doing.

-- 
Michael F. Stemper
If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much
more like prunes than rhubarb does.

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#301616

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
<michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives 
>> considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of saying 
>> anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty forming complete 
>> sentences.
>> 
>> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.
>
>What he said.
>
>Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our killfiles, and
>thus never see its posts. However, we do see when people reply to it and
>include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so doing.

I'll affirm what both of them said.  Seriously, the Star thing is best
ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several people who might
otherwise welcome new blood.




-- 
My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
My latest novel is Stone Unturned:  A Legend of Ethshar.
See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml

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#301617

Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bfbjqd11uve1odo04t3r34e009e5cghhhl@reader80.eternal-september.
org: 

> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives
>>> considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of
>>> saying anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty
>>> forming complete sentences.
>>> 
>>> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.
>>
>>What he said.
>>
>>Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our
>>killfiles, and thus never see its posts. However, we do see when
>>people reply to it and include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so
>>doing. 
> 
> I'll affirm what both of them said.  Seriously, the Star thing
> is best ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several
> people who might otherwise welcome new blood.
> 
If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug is 
posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy groups 
seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all pretty 
bizarre.

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#301622

On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:46:52 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:bfbjqd11uve1odo04t3r34e009e5cghhhl@reader80.eternal-september.
>org: 
>
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
>> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who gives
>>>> considerable evidence of mental illness. It is incapable of
>>>> saying anything that is coherent, and often has difficulty
>>>> forming complete sentences.
>>>> 
>>>> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.
>>>
>>>What he said.
>>>
>>>Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our
>>>killfiles, and thus never see its posts. However, we do see when
>>>people reply to it and include r.a.s.w. Please refrain from so
>>>doing. 
>> 
>> I'll affirm what both of them said.  Seriously, the Star thing
>> is best ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several
>> people who might otherwise welcome new blood.
>> 
>If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug is 
>posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy groups 
>seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all pretty 
>bizarre.

My son is a physicist, so I can confirm that.




-- 
My webpage is at http://www.watt-evans.com
My latest novel is Stone Unturned:  A Legend of Ethshar.
See http://www.ethshar.com/StoneUnturned.shtml

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#301623

Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
news:9lpkqdp6vqos036jjk1vbpt50ah3lhgkq0@reader80.eternal-september.
org: 

> On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:46:52 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:bfbjqd11uve1odo04t3r34e009e5cghhhl@reader80.eternal-septembe
>>r. org: 
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:13:11 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
>>> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>On 2018-09-24 11:05, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>> Free hint for the newbie: The Starmaker is an idiot, who
>>>>> gives considerable evidence of mental illness. It is
>>>>> incapable of saying anything that is coherent, and often has
>>>>> difficulty forming complete sentences.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arguing with it is a good way to look stupid.
>>>>
>>>>What he said.
>>>>
>>>>Plus, many of us have Starfaker firmly ensconced in our
>>>>killfiles, and thus never see its posts. However, we do see
>>>>when people reply to it and include r.a.s.w. Please refrain
>>>>from so doing. 
>>> 
>>> I'll affirm what both of them said.  Seriously, the Star thing
>>> is best ignored, and failing to do that will annoy several
>>> people who might otherwise welcome new blood.
>>> 
>>If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug
>>is posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy
>>groups seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all
>>pretty bizarre.
> 
> My son is a physicist, so I can confirm that.
> 
One need only troll through the archives at XKCD to wish one
didn't understand. (I'm not sure if Monroe is a mathematician or a
physicist, but he certainly understands the . . . eccentricities
of both.) 

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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#301648

On 2018-09-25, Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>If you note the Newsgroups header, I strongly suspect that Doug is 
>>posting from one of the other groups. Some of the astronomy groups 
>>seem to be wingnut magnets, and actual phycisists are all pretty bizarre.
>
> My son is a physicist, so I can confirm that.

I was a physicist, so everyone here on r.a.sf.w can confirm that.

Dave, srsly, i'm a kibologist, it doesn't get much more bizarre

ps: plus i could explain Magic the Gathering's interrupt timing rules. both
 versions. I can't now though.
-- 
\/David	DeLaney	posting	thru EarthLink - "It's not the pot that	grows the flower
It's not the clock that	slows the hour 	The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is	all it takes to	make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE	HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
my gatekeeper archives are no longer accessible	:( / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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