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There is no future

Started byThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
First post2018-05-20 23:08 -0700
Last post2018-05-21 15:02 -0700
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  There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-20 23:08 -0700
    Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-20 23:46 -0700
    Re: There is no future SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2018-05-21 20:30 +1000
    Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-21 04:55 -0700
    Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 09:18 -0700
      Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-21 09:22 -0700
        Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 11:40 -0700
          Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-21 12:04 -0700
            Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 08:36 -0700
              Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-22 09:15 -0700
                Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 13:49 -0700
                  Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-22 15:46 -0700
                  Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 22:31 -0400
                    Re: There is no future Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 03:12 +0000
                      Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-22 20:55 -0700
                      The answer isn't meaningful to most people. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-22 23:34 -0700
                        Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:12 -0400
                          Re: The answer isn't meaningful to most people. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-23 16:54 +0000
                    Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:12 -0700
                      Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:55 -0700
                        Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 10:59 -0700
                          Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:56 -0400
                        Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 17:55 -0400
                          Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 14:59 -0700
                    Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-22 23:19 -0700
                      Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-23 10:10 -0400
              Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-22 13:24 -0400
                Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-22 10:45 -0700
              Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:38 -0700
                Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:56 -0400
                  Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 10:45 -0700
                    Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-24 11:28 -0700
                      Re: There is no future Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-05-25 15:18 +1000
                        Re: There is no future Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-25 03:36 -0700
                    Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 13:15 -0700
                    Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:30 -0400
                      Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:17 -0700
                        Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:46 -0400
                Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:48 -0700
                  Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 17:47 -0400
                    Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-25 16:30 -0700
                  Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:43 -0700
                    Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:03 -0400
                    Re: There is no future HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-05-30 08:50 +1000
                    Re: There is no future HGW <HW@home.net> - 2018-06-01 08:45 +1000
                  Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:48 -0700
                    Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 07:08 -0400
                      Re: There is no future Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-30 03:46 -0600
                        Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:10 -0700
                    Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:22 -0700
      Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:04 -0400
        Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 13:35 -0700
          Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 16:53 -0400
            Re: There is no future The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-21 14:56 -0700
              Re: There is no future benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-21 20:21 -0400
      Re: There is no future IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-21 19:04 -0700
    Re: There is no future Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 15:02 -0700

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#298955

FromIAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-25 16:30 -0700
Message-ID<406d3a5b-4541-424e-ac6c-f0826455e4e6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#298953
On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 2:47:35 PM UTC-7, benj wrote:
> On 5/25/2018 2:48 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
> >>
> >> the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
> > 
> > 
> > The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future.
> > 
> > 
> > i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> > 
> > 
> > There is no ...tommorow.
> > 
> > 
> > there's no future..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> > 
> > 
> > Uncertaintly means.. There is no future.
> > 
> > 
> > Is there one?
> > 
> > Are you certain?
> > 
> > No
> > you're not certain..
> > 
> > there is a reason why
> > you're not certain..
> > 
> > it's Nature's way of
> > telling you
> > there is no future..
> > 
> > 
> > i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> > 
> > 
> > Is there a future? No, there is none!
> > 
> > 
> > i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > watdafuck, it's just an illusion..
> > 
> > 
> > i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> > 
> DOOD! Take easy on the stash. But we still love ya, man!

had 1 gram of Oregon mushroom at age 14, dropped on a 31 year old female that wanted sex after getting me Zonked. !

and on the Canals of Venice Beach. Joan Biaz's territory. and Journey, city by the bay = Marina Del Ray, not San Fran, people .

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#299011

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-28 23:43 -0700
Message-ID<5B0CF6AD.10D4@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#298947
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
> >
> > the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
> 
> The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future.
> 
> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> 
> There is no ...tommorow.
> 
> there's no future..
> 
> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> 
> Uncertaintly means.. There is no future.
> 
> Is there one?
> 
> Are you certain?
> 
> No
> you're not certain..
> 
> there is a reason why
> you're not certain..
> 
> it's Nature's way of
> telling you
> there is no future..
> 
> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> 
> Is there a future? No, there is none!
> 
> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> 
> watdafuck, it's just an illusion..
> 
> i thought you girls knew this stuff?


i keep waiting for tommorow but it ends up being...today.

Tommorow never comes.

I bet you tommorow it will be today.

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#299013

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-29 07:03 -0400
Message-ID<IsaPC.220211$Hv4.191362@fx39.iad>
In reply to#299011
On 5/29/2018 2:43 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
>>>
>>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
>>
>> The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future.
>>
>> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
>>
>> There is no ...tommorow.
>>
>> there's no future..
>>
>> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
>>
>> Uncertaintly means.. There is no future.
>>
>> Is there one?
>>
>> Are you certain?
>>
>> No
>> you're not certain..
>>
>> there is a reason why
>> you're not certain..
>>
>> it's Nature's way of
>> telling you
>> there is no future..
>>
>> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
>>
>> Is there a future? No, there is none!
>>
>> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
>>
>> watdafuck, it's just an illusion..
>>
>> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
> 
> 
> i keep waiting for tommorow but it ends up being...today.
> 
> Tommorow never comes.
> 
> I bet you tommorow it will be today.
> 
of course it will. Overnight it just changes its name!
Of course it's still the same thing (time) but in the lib nutjob world, 
reality is determined only by names and imagination, never by what 
something actually is. This in lib writer worlds starmaker and starfaker 
are two different people. Trust me. Starfaker you are STILL an idiot.

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#299040

FromHGW <HW@home.net>
Date2018-05-30 08:50 +1000
Message-ID<peklf0$1cfu$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#299011
On 29/05/18 16:43, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
>>>
>>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
>>
>> The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future.
>>

> 
> i keep waiting for tommorow but it ends up being...today.
> 
> Tommorow never comes.
> 
> I bet you tommorow it will be today.

Every instant of time exists. We are always just at one point on the arrow as we move along it..

-- 

    HGW

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#299082

FromHGW <HW@home.net>
Date2018-06-01 08:45 +1000
Message-ID<pepttr$b50$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#299011
On 29/05/18 16:43, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
>>>
>>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
>>
>> The uncertain law or principle theory or whatever you want to call it means...there is no future.
>>
>> i thought you girls knew this stuff?
>>
>> There is no ...tommorow.
>>
>> there's no future..

Every instant of time exists on the arrow. We are always just at one point on the arrow as we move along it..

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#299012

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-28 23:48 -0700
Message-ID<5B0CF7B7.4CAC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#298947
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
> >
> > the answer is simple, ...there is no future.


you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous
are...

the question is...Is There a Future?


I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it????

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#299014

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-29 07:08 -0400
Message-ID<AwaPC.173875$6C5.158541@fx07.iad>
In reply to#299012
On 5/29/2018 2:48 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
>>>
>>> the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
> 
> 
> you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous
> are...
> 
> the question is...Is There a Future?
> 
> 
> I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it????
> 
I'm not worried if there is a future. Chances are pretty good there is 
and if there isn't nobody will know. My problem is more practical, 
namely, I worry if in MY future your drooling "deep thoughts" blather 
will be in it. I keep hoping your future does not exist, but so far no 
such luck.

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#299046

FromGreg Goss <gossg@gossg.org>
Date2018-05-30 03:46 -0600
Message-ID<fn7aa0Fg3ifU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#299014
benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:

>I'm not worried if there is a future. Chances are pretty good there is 
>and if there isn't nobody will know. My problem is more practical, 
>namely, I worry if in MY future your drooling "deep thoughts" blather 
>will be in it. I keep hoping your future does not exist, but so far no 
>such luck.

Starmaker's deep thoughts have not been in MY world for four or five
years.  Except when someone like you takes a liking to him.

Killfile him.
-- 
We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.

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#299050

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-30 10:10 -0700
Message-ID<5B0EDB1E.6955@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#299046
Greg Goss wrote:
> 
> benj <benj@nobody.net> wrote:
> 
> >I'm not worried if there is a future. Chances are pretty good there is
> >and if there isn't nobody will know. My problem is more practical,
> >namely, I worry if in MY future your drooling "deep thoughts" blather
> >will be in it. I keep hoping your future does not exist, but so far no
> >such luck.
> 
> Starmaker's deep thoughts have not been in MY world for four or five
> years.  Except when someone like you takes a liking to him.
> 
> Killfile him.
> --
> We are geeks.  Resistance is voltage over current.


forgetabout fileing him...just kill him...period!

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#299131

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-06-03 13:22 -0700
Message-ID<5B144E14.497@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#299012
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > if everybody is sooo uncertain about the future...
> > >
> > > the answer is simple, ...there is no future.
> 
> you know...i'm a little uncertain about the future as most of yous
> are...
> 
> the question is...Is There a Future?
> 
> I thought today was today but it's tommorow isn't it????


okay, I'll explain in a different way...

no future
no past

you just have memories and
dreams of the past and future.

the past and future is all in your head.


Now, ..i mean NOW

the present..
the always present

is made of of 
millions and billions
and trillions
of units
yous call...events.

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#298788

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-21 16:04 -0400
Message-ID<KDFMC.138054$o43.27726@fx33.iad>
In reply to#298775
On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> There is no future...
>> or proof that a future exist.
> 
> 
> 
> I know you people haven't given it....much thought.
> 
> 
> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one?
> 
Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect!
We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"!

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#298789

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-21 13:35 -0700
Message-ID<5B032DA9.1DCD@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#298788
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> There is no future...
> >> or proof that a future exist.
> >
> >
> >
> > I know you people haven't given it....much thought.
> >
> >
> > If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one?
> >
> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect!
> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"!


Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"!

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#298790

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-21 16:53 -0400
Message-ID<3lGMC.142422$nq5.125652@fx36.iad>
In reply to#298789
On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no future...
>>>> or proof that a future exist.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one?
>>>
>> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect!
>> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"!
> 
> 
> Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"!
> 
Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know 
that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no 
present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all 
living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this 
law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is 
NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated 
with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there 
is going to be a future a moment from now.

On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In 
nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from 
Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they 
are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects 
sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment 
of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What 
this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" 
future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking 
experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass.

Starfaker you are still an idiot.

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#298791

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2018-05-21 14:56 -0700
Message-ID<5B034093.5699@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#298790
benj wrote:
> 
> On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > benj wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There is no future...
> >>>> or proof that a future exist.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one?
> >>>
> >> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect!
> >> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"!
> >
> >
> > Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"!
> >
> Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know
> that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no
> present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all
> living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this
> law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is
> NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated
> with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there
> is going to be a future a moment from now.
> 
> On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In
> nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from
> Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they
> are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects
> sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment
> of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What
> this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable"
> future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking
> experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass.
> 
> Starfaker you are still an idiot.


You make a great kindergaten teacher, you slap the kid on the head...


let me know when you reached the future...

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#298806

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-05-21 20:21 -0400
Message-ID<moJMC.154568$T14.15898@fx44.iad>
In reply to#298791
On 5/21/2018 5:56 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> benj wrote:
>>
>> On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> benj wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no future...
>>>>>> or proof that a future exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one?
>>>>>
>>>> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect!
>>>> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"!
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"!
>>>
>> Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know
>> that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no
>> present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all
>> living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this
>> law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is
>> NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated
>> with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there
>> is going to be a future a moment from now.
>>
>> On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In
>> nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from
>> Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they
>> are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects
>> sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment
>> of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What
>> this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable"
>> future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking
>> experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass.
>>
>> Starfaker you are still an idiot.
> 
> 
> You make a great kindergaten teacher, you slap the kid on the head...

Obviously not very effective in your case.

> let me know when you reached the future...

Depends if the future is really there to reach or not. I can't tell if 
it is. (Deep thoughts).

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#298807

FromIAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-21 19:04 -0700
Message-ID<9afb5255-908f-4f26-972f-f5e96296a67c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#298775
On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 9:19:02 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> > 
> > There is no future...
> > or proof that a future exist.
> 
> 
> 
> I know you people haven't given it....much thought.
> 
> 
> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one?

Because we know you will post again, fruitcake. :)

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#298793

FromDouble-A <doublea333@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-21 15:02 -0700
Message-ID<c537edf0-83d7-458f-9ab2-61f2175c46ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#298769
On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 11:08:50 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> There is no future...
> or proof that a future exist.


Nor a past!

Only the present moment is obvious.

Double-A

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