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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2018-05-19 23:43 -0700 |
| Last post | 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000 |
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The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-19 23:43 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Mark Earnest <gmearnest@att.net> - 2018-05-20 00:16 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-23 19:13 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 01:55 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 01:31 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 10:26 +0100
Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 04:40 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-05-24 14:23 +0100
Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 06:58 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:32 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:54 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 08:30 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 11:54 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 16:52 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-24 20:40 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 19:04 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 22:22 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 10:49 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 11:56 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 15:49 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 18:49 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-25 19:48 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 15:50 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-05-27 14:35 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-29 18:40 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-05-27 15:48 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:28 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 12:04 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 13:58 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-01 15:29 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:02 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 13:17 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:52 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 15:04 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:43 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-02 23:46 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 08:01 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 13:07 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-03 18:37 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-04 17:49 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-06-05 19:11 +1000
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-29 10:27 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-06-29 13:37 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-06-29 15:14 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-30 12:23 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-30 14:22 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2018-07-01 19:29 +1000
Re: The Origin of Gravity Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> - 2018-07-01 14:38 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-01 12:31 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 10:24 +0200
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-07-03 09:00 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Klaus Meinhard <k_meinhard@gmx.de> - 2018-07-03 19:10 +0200
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-03 13:39 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 12:49 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 11:33 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-30 13:41 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 13:43 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> - 2018-06-01 14:00 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 01:13 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 10:09 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-30 10:27 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-30 14:53 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 01:36 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 14:08 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-06-01 15:16 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:49 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 13:53 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-06-01 15:31 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:20 +1000
Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-29 07:19 -0700
Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 13:23 -0400
Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-05-29 10:28 -0700
Re: Your desire to be "God, the Father" has been your down fall. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-29 19:59 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-05-31 12:54 -0700
Re: The Origin of Gravity benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:18 -0400
Re: The Origin of Gravity Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com> - 2018-06-01 16:18 +1000
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| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 08:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <chine.bleu-3F07A6.08555224052018@reader.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #298911 |
In article <5B06DA8B.49D9@ix.netcom.com>, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I never said there was a big bang..I'm using those wwords to describe in > terms that you can understand. > > > The universe went (transformed) from steady state to what you have today.. The steady state universe was less than atom's breadth wide. -- :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ I'm saving up to buy the Donald a blue stone This post / \ from Metebelis 3. All praise the Great Don! insults Islam. Mohammed
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2018-05-29 20:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <fn5jhuF6da3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #298895 |
Am 24.05.2018 um 07:55 schrieb benj: .. >> >> >> from order to disorder.. > > Utter nonsense. > There was no Big Bang. I'm also an opponent of 'big-bang theory'. I have an entirely different concept. The main idea is, that time is a local measure and has kind of 'axis'. This axis could tilt and if so, the tilted axis would take an entire universe with it. This would look like a big bang from the 'other side'. But the bang is 'relative' and depending on the axis of time. That 'entire' universe is not really universal, but also relative. 'Big bang' is similar to a black hole, but seen from the other side. Black holes - btw- are also 'relative' and kind of optical illusion, too, (like big bang). If you are interested, here is the long version: https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6 It is mainly based on the version of relativity from Hermann Minkowski and a mathematical construct called 'Pauli algebra' with complex for vectors. TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-24 17:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B075702.4737@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298894 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The problem with describing > > The Origin of Gravity is > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > math won't do.. > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > before the big bang... > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > a dozen eggs. > > > > All laid out next to each other > > side by side...evenly. > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > > > without breaking > > > > you need gravity to hold each one > > > > to stop it from breaking.. > > > > Now, > > > > The Origin of Gravity > > > > is what kept the eggs > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out. > > > > The problem with describing > > The Origin of Gravity is > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > math won't do.. > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > let's take a dozen eggs... > > all laid out next to each other > side by side...evenly. > > That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > Now open the box of eggs and > turn it upside down so they can all > fall down.. > > you look on the floor and you got this > big mess.. > > eggs everywhere.. > > but, before they were all > laid out next to each other > side by side, evenly... > > and then they fell out of the box...but > each egg fell out in a straight line. > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now > galaxies... > > but, but... > > before the big bang.. > all stars were > laid out next to each other > side by side, evenly... > > and during the big bang they > all went out in a straight line.. > > but looking at the universe today... > > it appears they are all scattered out.. > > but they are not. > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > so, what > laid out the stars next to each other > side by side, evenly? > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > * * * * > > * * * * > > * * * * > > * * * * > > * * * * > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > > > * * > * > * > * > * > * > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > * . * . * > * > * . * . . * > . * > . . * * > . . . > . * * * > . > * . * > * * > * > * > . . * > * > * > . . > > * . * . * > * > * . * . . * > . * > . . * * > . . . > . * * * > . > * . * > > from order to disorder.. Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 14:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B087D4F.45E9@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298931 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > before the big bang... > > > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > > a dozen eggs. > > > > > > All laid out next to each other > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > > > > > without breaking > > > > > > you need gravity to hold each one > > > > > > to stop it from breaking.. > > > > > > Now, > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity > > > > > > is what kept the eggs > > > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out. > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > > > let's take a dozen eggs... > > > > all laid out next to each other > > side by side...evenly. > > > > That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > > > Now open the box of eggs and > > turn it upside down so they can all > > fall down.. > > > > you look on the floor and you got this > > big mess.. > > > > eggs everywhere.. > > > > but, before they were all > > laid out next to each other > > side by side, evenly... > > > > and then they fell out of the box...but > > each egg fell out in a straight line. > > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now > > galaxies... > > > > but, but... > > > > before the big bang.. > > all stars were > > laid out next to each other > > side by side, evenly... > > > > and during the big bang they > > all went out in a straight line.. > > > > but looking at the universe today... > > > > it appears they are all scattered out.. > > > > but they are not. > > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > > > so, what > > laid out the stars next to each other > > side by side, evenly? > > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > > > * * * * > > > > * * * * > > > > * * * * > > > > * * * * > > > > * * * * > > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > > > > > > > * * > > * > > * > > * > > * > > * > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > > > * . * . * > > * > > * . * . . * > > . * > > . . * * > > . . . > > . * * * > > . > > * . * > > * * > > * > > * > > . . * > > * > > * > > . . > > > > * . * . * > > * > > * . * . . * > > . * > > . . * * > > . . . > > . * * * > > . > > * . * > > > > from order to disorder.. > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. matter was created BEFORE the big bang... matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. It seems you people hit a wall or something... you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. I'm astounded.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 14:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B08817D.3390@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298951 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > before the big bang... > > > > > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > > > a dozen eggs. > > > > > > > > All laid out next to each other > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > > > > > > > without breaking > > > > > > > > you need gravity to hold each one > > > > > > > > to stop it from breaking.. > > > > > > > > Now, > > > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity > > > > > > > > is what kept the eggs > > > > > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > > > > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > > > > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out. > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > > > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > > > > > let's take a dozen eggs... > > > > > > all laid out next to each other > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > > > > > Now open the box of eggs and > > > turn it upside down so they can all > > > fall down.. > > > > > > you look on the floor and you got this > > > big mess.. > > > > > > eggs everywhere.. > > > > > > but, before they were all > > > laid out next to each other > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > and then they fell out of the box...but > > > each egg fell out in a straight line. > > > > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > > > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now > > > galaxies... > > > > > > but, but... > > > > > > before the big bang.. > > > all stars were > > > laid out next to each other > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > and during the big bang they > > > all went out in a straight line.. > > > > > > but looking at the universe today... > > > > > > it appears they are all scattered out.. > > > > > > but they are not. > > > > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > > > > > so, what > > > laid out the stars next to each other > > > side by side, evenly? > > > > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > > > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > > > > > * . * . * > > > * > > > * . * . . * > > > . * > > > . . * * > > > . . . > > > . * * * > > > . > > > * . * > > > * * > > > * > > > * > > > . . * > > > * > > > * > > > . . > > > > > > * . * . * > > > * > > > * . * . . * > > > . * > > > . . * * > > > . . . > > > . * * * > > > . > > > * . * > > > > > > from order to disorder.. > > > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. > > There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... > > for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. > > matter was created BEFORE the big bang... > > matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. > > i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. > > It seems you people hit a wall or something... > > you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. > > I'm astounded. the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light travels in a straight line. And light created matter.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 18:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <P_%NC.109236$oR2.25748@fx25.iad> |
| In reply to | #298952 |
On 5/25/2018 5:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> The Starmaker wrote: >>> >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The problem with describing >>>>> The Origin of Gravity is >>>>> using 'words' to describe it.. >>>>> >>>>> math won't do.. >>>>> >>>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. >>>>> >>>>> before the big bang... >>>>> >>>>> stars in the universe were like.. >>>>> a dozen eggs. >>>>> >>>>> All laid out next to each other >>>>> side by side...evenly. >>>>> >>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out.. >>>>> >>>>> without breaking >>>>> >>>>> you need gravity to hold each one >>>>> >>>>> to stop it from breaking.. >>>>> >>>>> Now, >>>>> >>>>> The Origin of Gravity >>>>> >>>>> is what kept the eggs >>>>> >>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly. >>>>> >>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. >>>>> >>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out. >>>>> >>>>> The problem with describing >>>>> The Origin of Gravity is >>>>> using 'words' to describe it.. >>>>> >>>>> math won't do.. >>>>> >>>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. >>>>> >>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... >>>> >>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. >>>> >>>> let's take a dozen eggs... >>>> >>>> all laid out next to each other >>>> side by side...evenly. >>>> >>>> That is how it looked before the big bang.. >>>> >>>> Now open the box of eggs and >>>> turn it upside down so they can all >>>> fall down.. >>>> >>>> you look on the floor and you got this >>>> big mess.. >>>> >>>> eggs everywhere.. >>>> >>>> but, before they were all >>>> laid out next to each other >>>> side by side, evenly... >>>> >>>> and then they fell out of the box...but >>>> each egg fell out in a straight line. >>>> >>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. >>>> >>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now >>>> galaxies... >>>> >>>> but, but... >>>> >>>> before the big bang.. >>>> all stars were >>>> laid out next to each other >>>> side by side, evenly... >>>> >>>> and during the big bang they >>>> all went out in a straight line.. >>>> >>>> but looking at the universe today... >>>> >>>> it appears they are all scattered out.. >>>> >>>> but they are not. >>>> >>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. >>>> >>>> so, what >>>> laid out the stars next to each other >>>> side by side, evenly? >>>> >>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang? >>>> >>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. >>>> >>>> * * * * >>>> >>>> * * * * >>>> >>>> * * * * >>>> >>>> * * * * >>>> >>>> * * * * >>>> >>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang... >>>> >>>> * . * . * >>>> * >>>> * . * . . * >>>> . * >>>> . . * * >>>> . . . >>>> . * * * >>>> . >>>> * . * >>>> * * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> . . * >>>> * >>>> * >>>> . . >>>> >>>> * . * . * >>>> * >>>> * . * . . * >>>> . * >>>> . . * * >>>> . . . >>>> . * * * >>>> . >>>> * . * >>>> >>>> from order to disorder.. >>> >>> Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. >> >> There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... >> >> for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. >> >> matter was created BEFORE the big bang... >> >> matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. >> >> i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. >> >> It seems you people hit a wall or something... >> >> you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. >> >> I'm astounded. > > > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light > travels in a straight line. > > And light created matter. > Obvious ignorant blather. Hey Faker, you been taking lessons from Mitch again? This is his style of drool.
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| From | Herbert Glazier <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 18:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c9c0b2b8-db87-48ad-814c-15db1b4bc4ac@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298954 |
On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 3:20:32 PM UTC-7, benj wrote: > On 5/25/2018 5:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The problem with describing > >>>>> The Origin of Gravity is > >>>>> using 'words' to describe it.. > >>>>> > >>>>> math won't do.. > >>>>> > >>>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. > >>>>> > >>>>> before the big bang... > >>>>> > >>>>> stars in the universe were like.. > >>>>> a dozen eggs. > >>>>> > >>>>> All laid out next to each other > >>>>> side by side...evenly. > >>>>> > >>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > >>>>> > >>>>> without breaking > >>>>> > >>>>> you need gravity to hold each one > >>>>> > >>>>> to stop it from breaking.. > >>>>> > >>>>> Now, > >>>>> > >>>>> The Origin of Gravity > >>>>> > >>>>> is what kept the eggs > >>>>> > >>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > >>>>> > >>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out. > >>>>> > >>>>> The problem with describing > >>>>> The Origin of Gravity is > >>>>> using 'words' to describe it.. > >>>>> > >>>>> math won't do.. > >>>>> > >>>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. > >>>>> > >>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > >>>> > >>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > >>>> > >>>> let's take a dozen eggs... > >>>> > >>>> all laid out next to each other > >>>> side by side...evenly. > >>>> > >>>> That is how it looked before the big bang.. > >>>> > >>>> Now open the box of eggs and > >>>> turn it upside down so they can all > >>>> fall down.. > >>>> > >>>> you look on the floor and you got this > >>>> big mess.. > >>>> > >>>> eggs everywhere.. > >>>> > >>>> but, before they were all > >>>> laid out next to each other > >>>> side by side, evenly... > >>>> > >>>> and then they fell out of the box...but > >>>> each egg fell out in a straight line. > >>>> > >>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > >>>> > >>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now > >>>> galaxies... > >>>> > >>>> but, but... > >>>> > >>>> before the big bang.. > >>>> all stars were > >>>> laid out next to each other > >>>> side by side, evenly... > >>>> > >>>> and during the big bang they > >>>> all went out in a straight line.. > >>>> > >>>> but looking at the universe today... > >>>> > >>>> it appears they are all scattered out.. > >>>> > >>>> but they are not. > >>>> > >>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > >>>> > >>>> so, what > >>>> laid out the stars next to each other > >>>> side by side, evenly? > >>>> > >>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > >>>> > >>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > >>>> > >>>> * * * * > >>>> > >>>> * * * * > >>>> > >>>> * * * * > >>>> > >>>> * * * * > >>>> > >>>> * * * * > >>>> > >>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> * * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang... > >>>> > >>>> * . * . * > >>>> * > >>>> * . * . . * > >>>> . * > >>>> . . * * > >>>> . . . > >>>> . * * * > >>>> . > >>>> * . * > >>>> * * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> . . * > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> . . > >>>> > >>>> * . * . * > >>>> * > >>>> * . * . . * > >>>> . * > >>>> . . * * > >>>> . . . > >>>> . * * * > >>>> . > >>>> * . * > >>>> > >>>> from order to disorder.. > >>> > >>> Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. > >> > >> There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... > >> > >> for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. > >> > >> matter was created BEFORE the big bang... > >> > >> matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. > >> > >> i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. > >> > >> It seems you people hit a wall or something... > >> > >> you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. > >> > >> I'm astounded. > > > > > > > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light > > travels in a straight line. > > > > And light created matter. > > > Obvious ignorant blather. Hey Faker, you been taking lessons from Mitch > again? This is his style of drool. Light curves,and the Earth is not flat.Gravity sees to it.Bert
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-25 19:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <peahvk$8bj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #298956 |
"Herbert Glazier" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> wrote: Bert's candle never ever lit as Bert did always shit on it ------- See: Glazier's Dossier -------
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| From | IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-26 15:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a69f8133-5e0b-4e1c-8067-a715c5c1d616@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298956 |
On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 6:49:20 PM UTC-7, Herbert Glazier wrote: > On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 3:20:32 PM UTC-7, benj wrote: > > On 5/25/2018 5:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>> > > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The problem with describing > > >>>>> The Origin of Gravity is > > >>>>> using 'words' to describe it.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> math won't do.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> before the big bang... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> stars in the universe were like.. > > >>>>> a dozen eggs. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> All laid out next to each other > > >>>>> side by side...evenly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> without breaking > > >>>>> > > >>>>> you need gravity to hold each one > > >>>>> > > >>>>> to stop it from breaking.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Now, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The Origin of Gravity > > >>>>> > > >>>>> is what kept the eggs > > >>>>> > > >>>>> before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> and a couple of eggs falling out. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The problem with describing > > >>>>> The Origin of Gravity is > > >>>>> using 'words' to describe it.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> math won't do.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > >>>> > > >>>> I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > >>>> > > >>>> let's take a dozen eggs... > > >>>> > > >>>> all laid out next to each other > > >>>> side by side...evenly. > > >>>> > > >>>> That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > >>>> > > >>>> Now open the box of eggs and > > >>>> turn it upside down so they can all > > >>>> fall down.. > > >>>> > > >>>> you look on the floor and you got this > > >>>> big mess.. > > >>>> > > >>>> eggs everywhere.. > > >>>> > > >>>> but, before they were all > > >>>> laid out next to each other > > >>>> side by side, evenly... > > >>>> > > >>>> and then they fell out of the box...but > > >>>> each egg fell out in a straight line. > > >>>> > > >>>> You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > >>>> > > >>>> you could say the eggs on the floor are now > > >>>> galaxies... > > >>>> > > >>>> but, but... > > >>>> > > >>>> before the big bang.. > > >>>> all stars were > > >>>> laid out next to each other > > >>>> side by side, evenly... > > >>>> > > >>>> and during the big bang they > > >>>> all went out in a straight line.. > > >>>> > > >>>> but looking at the universe today... > > >>>> > > >>>> it appears they are all scattered out.. > > >>>> > > >>>> but they are not. > > >>>> > > >>>> Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > >>>> > > >>>> so, what > > >>>> laid out the stars next to each other > > >>>> side by side, evenly? > > >>>> > > >>>> What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > >>>> > > >>>> Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > >>>> > > >>>> * * * * > > >>>> > > >>>> * * * * > > >>>> > > >>>> * * * * > > >>>> > > >>>> * * * * > > >>>> > > >>>> * * * * > > >>>> > > >>>> and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> * * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > >>>> > > >>>> * . * . * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * . * . . * > > >>>> . * > > >>>> . . * * > > >>>> . . . > > >>>> . * * * > > >>>> . > > >>>> * . * > > >>>> * * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * > > >>>> . . * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * > > >>>> . . > > >>>> > > >>>> * . * . * > > >>>> * > > >>>> * . * . . * > > >>>> . * > > >>>> . . * * > > >>>> . . . > > >>>> . * * * > > >>>> . > > >>>> * . * > > >>>> > > >>>> from order to disorder.. > > >>> > > >>> Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. > > >> > > >> There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... > > >> > > >> for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. > > >> > > >> matter was created BEFORE the big bang... > > >> > > >> matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. > > >> > > >> i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. > > >> > > >> It seems you people hit a wall or something... > > >> > > >> you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. > > >> > > >> I'm astounded. > > > > > > > > > > > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light > > > travels in a straight line. > > > > > > And light created matter. > > > > > Obvious ignorant blather. Hey Faker, you been taking lessons from Mitch > > again? This is his style of drool. > > Light curves,and the Earth is not flat.Gravity sees to it.Bert u just upsets 10,000s of chimpanzees' who believe the earth has always been flat. they do not take ships, they believe they will fall over the 'edge'. #lolz
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-27 13:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0B15F6.19B7@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298952 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > > > > a dozen eggs. > > > > > > > > > > All laid out next to each other > > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > > > > > > > > > without breaking > > > > > > > > > > you need gravity to hold each one > > > > > > > > > > to stop it from breaking.. > > > > > > > > > > Now, > > > > > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity > > > > > > > > > > is what kept the eggs > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > > > > > > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > > > > > > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out. > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > > > > > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > > > > > > > let's take a dozen eggs... > > > > > > > > all laid out next to each other > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > Now open the box of eggs and > > > > turn it upside down so they can all > > > > fall down.. > > > > > > > > you look on the floor and you got this > > > > big mess.. > > > > > > > > eggs everywhere.. > > > > > > > > but, before they were all > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > and then they fell out of the box...but > > > > each egg fell out in a straight line. > > > > > > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > > > > > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now > > > > galaxies... > > > > > > > > but, but... > > > > > > > > before the big bang.. > > > > all stars were > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > and during the big bang they > > > > all went out in a straight line.. > > > > > > > > but looking at the universe today... > > > > > > > > it appears they are all scattered out.. > > > > > > > > but they are not. > > > > > > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > > > > > > > so, what > > > > laid out the stars next to each other > > > > side by side, evenly? > > > > > > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > > > > > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > * > > > > * . * . . * > > > > . * > > > > . . * * > > > > . . . > > > > . * * * > > > > . > > > > * . * > > > > * * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > . . * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > . . > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > * > > > > * . * . . * > > > > . * > > > > . . * * > > > > . . . > > > > . * * * > > > > . > > > > * . * > > > > > > > > from order to disorder.. > > > > > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. > > > > There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... > > > > for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. > > > > matter was created BEFORE the big bang... > > > > matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. > > > > i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. > > > > It seems you people hit a wall or something... > > > > you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. > > > > I'm astounded. > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light > travels in a straight line. > > And light created matter. In other words...if you reverse the universe, it goes from this: > > > > * . * . * > > > > * > > > > * . * . . * > > > > . * > > > > . . * * > > > > . . . > > > > . * * * > > > > . > > > > * . * > > > > * * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > . . * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > . . > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > * > > > > * . * . . * > > > > . * > > > > . . * * > > > > . . . > > > > . * * * > > > > . > > > > * . * to this: > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > * * * * but maybe this is too far above your level.. this, this Origin of Gravity... How about..what other 'applications' does gravity have besides hold all the planets together? Something at your level... and beside keeping your feet on the ground.... what other 'Aplications' does Gravity have here on your home ground..? Like for example.. one application of gravity is to provide you with food to eat like using it's gravity application to drop an apple from a tree just at the right time that it is ...ripe. Can you name another application?
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| From | Double-A <doublea333@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-27 14:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <60591a5a-ff8a-41ca-bb83-644e66045351@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298979 |
On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:32:28 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > > > > > a dozen eggs. > > > > > > > > > > > > All laid out next to each other > > > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > > > > > > > > > > > without breaking > > > > > > > > > > > > you need gravity to hold each one > > > > > > > > > > > > to stop it from breaking.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity > > > > > > > > > > > > is what kept the eggs > > > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > > > > > > > > > let's take a dozen eggs... > > > > > > > > > > all laid out next to each other > > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > > > That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > > > Now open the box of eggs and > > > > > turn it upside down so they can all > > > > > fall down.. > > > > > > > > > > you look on the floor and you got this > > > > > big mess.. > > > > > > > > > > eggs everywhere.. > > > > > > > > > > but, before they were all > > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > > > and then they fell out of the box...but > > > > > each egg fell out in a straight line. > > > > > > > > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > > > > > > > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now > > > > > galaxies... > > > > > > > > > > but, but... > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang.. > > > > > all stars were > > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > > > and during the big bang they > > > > > all went out in a straight line.. > > > > > > > > > > but looking at the universe today... > > > > > > > > > > it appears they are all scattered out.. > > > > > > > > > > but they are not. > > > > > > > > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > > > > > > > > > so, what > > > > > laid out the stars next to each other > > > > > side by side, evenly? > > > > > > > > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > > > > > > > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > > > > > > > from order to disorder.. > > > > > > > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. > > > > > > There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... > > > > > > for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. > > > > > > matter was created BEFORE the big bang... > > > > > > matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. > > > > > > i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. > > > > > > It seems you people hit a wall or something... > > > > > > you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. > > > > > > I'm astounded. > > > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light > > travels in a straight line. > > > > And light created matter. > > > In other words...if you reverse the universe, it goes from this: > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > to this: > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > but maybe this is too far above your level.. > > > this, this Origin of Gravity... > > > How about..what other 'applications' does gravity have besides hold all the planets together? > > > Something at your level... > > > and beside keeping your feet on the ground.... > > > what other 'Aplications' does Gravity have here on your home ground..? Like for example.. > > > one application of gravity is to provide you with food to eat like using it's gravity application to > > drop an apple from a tree just at the right time that it is ...ripe. > > > Can you name another application? We had a gravity flow water supply! Double-A
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-27 15:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0B2E9A.5EF0@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298982 |
Double-A wrote: > > On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:32:28 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > > > > > > a dozen eggs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All laid out next to each other > > > > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without breaking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you need gravity to hold each one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to stop it from breaking.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is what kept the eggs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > > > > > > > > > > > let's take a dozen eggs... > > > > > > > > > > > > all laid out next to each other > > > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now open the box of eggs and > > > > > > turn it upside down so they can all > > > > > > fall down.. > > > > > > > > > > > > you look on the floor and you got this > > > > > > big mess.. > > > > > > > > > > > > eggs everywhere.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but, before they were all > > > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > > > > > and then they fell out of the box...but > > > > > > each egg fell out in a straight line. > > > > > > > > > > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > > > > > > > > > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now > > > > > > galaxies... > > > > > > > > > > > > but, but... > > > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang.. > > > > > > all stars were > > > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > > > > > and during the big bang they > > > > > > all went out in a straight line.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but looking at the universe today... > > > > > > > > > > > > it appears they are all scattered out.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but they are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > > > > > > > > > > > so, what > > > > > > laid out the stars next to each other > > > > > > side by side, evenly? > > > > > > > > > > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > > . * > > > > > > . . * * > > > > > > . . . > > > > > > . * * * > > > > > > . > > > > > > * . * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > . . * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > . . > > > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > > . * > > > > > > . . * * > > > > > > . . . > > > > > > . * * * > > > > > > . > > > > > > * . * > > > > > > > > > > > > from order to disorder.. > > > > > > > > > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. > > > > > > > > There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... > > > > > > > > for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. > > > > > > > > matter was created BEFORE the big bang... > > > > > > > > matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. > > > > > > > > i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. > > > > > > > > It seems you people hit a wall or something... > > > > > > > > you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. > > > > > > > > I'm astounded. > > > > > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light > > > travels in a straight line. > > > > > > And light created matter. > > > > > > In other words...if you reverse the universe, it goes from this: > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > > . * > > > > > > . . * * > > > > > > . . . > > > > > > . * * * > > > > > > . > > > > > > * . * > > > > > > * * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > . . * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > . . > > > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > > * > > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > > . * > > > > > > . . * * > > > > > > . . . > > > > > > . * * * > > > > > > . > > > > > > * . * > > > > > > > > to this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > but maybe this is too far above your level.. > > > > > > this, this Origin of Gravity... > > > > > > How about..what other 'applications' does gravity have besides hold all the planets together? > > > > > > Something at your level... > > > > > > and beside keeping your feet on the ground.... > > > > > > what other 'Aplications' does Gravity have here on your home ground..? Like for example.. > > > > > > one application of gravity is to provide you with food to eat like using it's gravity application to > > > > drop an apple from a tree just at the right time that it is ...ripe. > > > > > > Can you name another application? > > We had a gravity flow water supply! > > Double-A Do you mean the Moon pulling the drop of water from a leaf to the ground to make rivers and oceans?
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| From | IAM <abookoflife@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-29 18:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <57269080-14fb-42ab-8652-8f5d3ef8faef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #298979 |
On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:32:28 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > > > > > a dozen eggs. > > > > > > > > > > > > All laid out next to each other > > > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > but if you let all the eggs fall out.. > > > > > > > > > > > > without breaking > > > > > > > > > > > > you need gravity to hold each one > > > > > > > > > > > > to stop it from breaking.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, > > > > > > > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity > > > > > > > > > > > > is what kept the eggs > > > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang...side by side evenly. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sort of looking at the Big Dipper.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and a couple of eggs falling out. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with describing > > > > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but imagine hitting a tennis ball at a net... > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard in terms you can understand.. > > > > > > > > > > let's take a dozen eggs... > > > > > > > > > > all laid out next to each other > > > > > side by side...evenly. > > > > > > > > > > That is how it looked before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > > > Now open the box of eggs and > > > > > turn it upside down so they can all > > > > > fall down.. > > > > > > > > > > you look on the floor and you got this > > > > > big mess.. > > > > > > > > > > eggs everywhere.. > > > > > > > > > > but, before they were all > > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > > > and then they fell out of the box...but > > > > > each egg fell out in a straight line. > > > > > > > > > > You couldn't tell by looking at the floor.. > > > > > > > > > > you could say the eggs on the floor are now > > > > > galaxies... > > > > > > > > > > but, but... > > > > > > > > > > before the big bang.. > > > > > all stars were > > > > > laid out next to each other > > > > > side by side, evenly... > > > > > > > > > > and during the big bang they > > > > > all went out in a straight line.. > > > > > > > > > > but looking at the universe today... > > > > > > > > > > it appears they are all scattered out.. > > > > > > > > > > but they are not. > > > > > > > > > > Gravity bended the straight line they were following.. > > > > > > > > > > so, what > > > > > laid out the stars next to each other > > > > > side by side, evenly? > > > > > > > > > > What form did Gravity have before the big bang? > > > > > > > > > > Here is an illustration of the stars before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration of moments during the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and here is an illustration after the big bang... > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > > > > > > > from order to disorder.. > > > > > > > > Now, if you understand the origin of gravity...you should understand Why things go on a straight line...forever. > > > > > > There seems to be soooo much misunderstanding among the 'scientific community' at it's highest levels... > > > > > > for example..the big bang was not the creation of matter, but the transformation of matter.. > > > > > > matter was created BEFORE the big bang... > > > > > > matter simply ran out of space and that is what caused the big bang as you know it. > > > > > > i think it's going to take a thousand years for you Leaders to discover that. > > > > > > It seems you people hit a wall or something... > > > > > > you're unable to THINK (or allowed to think) before the big bang. > > > > > > I'm astounded. > > > > the reason Why things travel in a straight line forever is because light > > travels in a straight line. > > > > And light created matter. > > > In other words...if you reverse the universe, it goes from this: > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > . . > > > > > > > > > > * . * . * > > > > > * > > > > > * . * . . * > > > > > . * > > > > > . . * * > > > > > . . . > > > > > . * * * > > > > > . > > > > > * . * > > > > to this: > > > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > > > > > > > * * * * > > > > but maybe this is too far above your level.. > > > this, this Origin of Gravity... > > > How about..what other 'applications' does gravity have besides hold all the planets together? > > > Something at your level... > > > and beside keeping your feet on the ground.... > > > what other 'Aplications' does Gravity have here on your home ground..? Like for example.. > > > one application of gravity is to provide you with food to eat like using it's gravity application to > > drop an apple from a tree just at the right time that it is ...ripe. > > > Can you name another application? Jupiter has Gravity on Starmaker, all the time, does SM know it? Gravities ( as in plural forces) your body is the same gravitational force from Jupiter as comparable to your body to the Earth's ground. Interesting,, eh?
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-05-27 15:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pefcje$5kp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #298753 |
On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The problem with describing > The Origin of Gravity is > using 'words' to describe it.. > > math won't do.. > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > before the big bang... > > stars in the universe were like.. > a dozen eggs. [...] Where did they come from?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-27 15:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0B37C3.74D3@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298984 |
Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The problem with describing > > The Origin of Gravity is > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > math won't do.. > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > before the big bang... > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > a dozen eggs. > [...] > > Where did they come from? I already mentioned in my class that before the big bang stars existed in the steady state universe. Do you mean where sis the stars come from in the steady state universe? I don't have a photograph of that... I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang... i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe... i would have to look for it. But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born.. The Starmaker
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-28 11:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0C488F.724D@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298985 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > > > On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The problem with describing > > > The Origin of Gravity is > > > using 'words' to describe it.. > > > > > > math won't do.. > > > > > > and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > > > > before the big bang... > > > > > > stars in the universe were like.. > > > a dozen eggs. > > [...] > > > > Where did they come from? > > I already mentioned in my class > that before the big bang stars existed in > the steady state universe. > > Do you mean where sis the stars come from in > the steady state universe? > > I don't have a photograph of that... > > I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang... > > i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe... > > i would have to look for it. > > But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born.. > > The Starmaker Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang.. far beyond the steady stste universe... and as close as the stem of an apple. In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-05-28 14:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <CfYOC.124862$R51.83442@fx03.iad> |
| In reply to | #298992 |
On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > The Starmaker wrote: >> >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>> >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> The problem with describing >>>> The Origin of Gravity is >>>> using 'words' to describe it.. >>>> >>>> math won't do.. >>>> >>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. >>>> >>>> before the big bang... >>>> >>>> stars in the universe were like.. >>>> a dozen eggs. >>> [...] >>> >>> Where did they come from? >> >> I already mentioned in my class >> that before the big bang stars existed in >> the steady state universe. >> >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in >> the steady state universe? >> >> I don't have a photograph of that... >> >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang... >> >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe... >> >> i would have to look for it. >> >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born.. >> >> The Starmaker > > > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang.. > > far beyond the steady stste universe... > > and as close as the stem of an apple. > > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith. > and the way you know all this is? Oh that's right, you've actually BEEN beyond the universe and before the Big Bang (in your mind). Faker you are STILL a moron. Lay off the stash for a while, OK?
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-28 15:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0C8959.646A@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298993 |
benj wrote: > > On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>> > >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> The problem with describing > >>>> The Origin of Gravity is > >>>> using 'words' to describe it.. > >>>> > >>>> math won't do.. > >>>> > >>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. > >>>> > >>>> before the big bang... > >>>> > >>>> stars in the universe were like.. > >>>> a dozen eggs. > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Where did they come from? > >> > >> I already mentioned in my class > >> that before the big bang stars existed in > >> the steady state universe. > >> > >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in > >> the steady state universe? > >> > >> I don't have a photograph of that... > >> > >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang... > >> > >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe... > >> > >> i would have to look for it. > >> > >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born.. > >> > >> The Starmaker > > > > > > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang.. > > > > far beyond the steady stste universe... > > > > and as close as the stem of an apple. > > > > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith. > > > and the way you know all this is? When an apple is ripe it falls from a tree...and the law of gravity was discovered. I thought you girls knew this stuff.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-28 23:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0CF5EB.4A78@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #298996 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > benj wrote: > > > > On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > >>> > > >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > >>>> The problem with describing > > >>>> The Origin of Gravity is > > >>>> using 'words' to describe it.. > > >>>> > > >>>> math won't do.. > > >>>> > > >>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. > > >>>> > > >>>> before the big bang... > > >>>> > > >>>> stars in the universe were like.. > > >>>> a dozen eggs. > > >>> [...] > > >>> > > >>> Where did they come from? > > >> > > >> I already mentioned in my class > > >> that before the big bang stars existed in > > >> the steady state universe. > > >> > > >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in > > >> the steady state universe? > > >> > > >> I don't have a photograph of that... > > >> > > >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang... > > >> > > >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe... > > >> > > >> i would have to look for it. > > >> > > >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born.. > > >> > > >> The Starmaker > > > > > > > > > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang.. > > > > > > far beyond the steady stste universe... > > > > > > and as close as the stem of an apple. > > > > > > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith. > > > > > and the way you know all this is? > > When an apple is ripe it falls from a tree...and the law of gravity was discovered. > > I thought you girls knew this stuff. Once you understand that...that, gravity works in the smallest area of the ripeness of an apple..then you will understand how gravity works on a small scale...quantium gravity. But, I'm not here to explain the theory of quantium gravity to yous.. it's about...The Origin of Gravity.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2018-05-29 09:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5B0D7BD3.62BE@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #299010 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > benj wrote: > > > > > > On 5/28/2018 2:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> On 5/19/2018 11:43 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > >>>> The problem with describing > > > >>>> The Origin of Gravity is > > > >>>> using 'words' to describe it.. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> math won't do.. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> and it is very differcult to picture.. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> before the big bang... > > > >>>> > > > >>>> stars in the universe were like.. > > > >>>> a dozen eggs. > > > >>> [...] > > > >>> > > > >>> Where did they come from? > > > >> > > > >> I already mentioned in my class > > > >> that before the big bang stars existed in > > > >> the steady state universe. > > > >> > > > >> Do you mean where sis the stars come from in > > > >> the steady state universe? > > > >> > > > >> I don't have a photograph of that... > > > >> > > > >> I juat have a photograph of before and after the big bang... > > > >> > > > >> i don't have a photograph of before the steady state universe... > > > >> > > > >> i would have to look for it. > > > >> > > > >> But certaintly Gravity existed before stars were born.. > > > >> > > > >> The Starmaker > > > > > > > > > > > > Gravity extends far beyond the universe. Far beyond before the big bang.. > > > > > > > > far beyond the steady stste universe... > > > > > > > > and as close as the stem of an apple. > > > > > > > > In other words, gravity is the machinery behind every celestial body and the invisible hand of Adam Smith. > > > > > > > and the way you know all this is? > > > > When an apple is ripe it falls from a tree...and the law of gravity was discovered. > > > > I thought you girls knew this stuff. > > Once you understand that...that, gravity works in the smallest area of the ripeness of an apple..then > you will understand how gravity works on a small scale...quantium gravity. The Laws of Gravity work not only on a universal large scale level, but on a quantium small scale level. But yous didn't understand why the apple fell on Newton's head. You could not see the machinery behind a simple process of an apple getting ripe. Yous didn't understand how gravity works with the tree to distribute energy. For some reason...yous are also not suppose to think quantium gravity in your 'scientific groupthink community'. Without Gravity...what would happen to the apple and all things that it? Could you even understand the invisible hand of Adam Smith? But, I keep forgetting yous people are not aloud to...think, unless you get permission from your leaders. Right now, your leaders tell you everything comes from Nothing and that is as far as you're allowed to think. When they move forward, you move forward. Until then, stay where you are. Sit. Roll over. Kneel. dats a good boy...
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